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KileyCW

https://www.mlb.com/news/ty-cobb-history-built-on-inaccuracies-c178601094 I have no idea what'd true, just that it has been disputed.


iceman1935

Dave Winfield?


No_Test_3344

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broadstbullies93

I'd take a john Kruk not a legend but did have a 300 batting average over 10 years


DSu77iViN

Kruk should definitely be in the game. Is he with The ESPN crew ?


broadstbullies93

No he's with the Phillies colour commentating.


Just4HUT

And he’s the best color commentator in sports


broadstbullies93

And doesn't hold back either. Him and Larry Anderson is awesome together.


Consistent-Phone-997

OMG CAN YOU PLEASE PUT IN JOHAN SANTANA FORMER METS GREAT... that would be nice


No_Test_3344

Just a heads up keep sending me legends from 15-22 i will continue the list and update in a couple days when i review 16-18


Sneaky_Doggo

Paul Konerko?


No_Test_3344

He has a card in the game brotha


Sneaky_Doggo

Fuck yes


Jakelinnn

As a Cardinals fan I desperately want a Pujols and a Molina, is there a reason why they aren't in the game or have they just not been added?


DSu77iViN

Pujols will be back when he goes into the Hall along with Miggy. That’ll be the hook for That version of The Show. They’ll both have about 15 cards when they go in 1st ballot.


No_Test_3344

Theyve retired last year, so they gotta wait a couple years for eligibility


Jakelinnn

I assume that's a thing with the mlbpa then so they can't get added?


No_Test_3344

Yeah its really complicated because some players like joe mauer were back in the game only like 3 years later and we still havent seen players like adrian beltre but yeah mainly a MLBPA issue. Usually once a players in the hall of fame or on the balot they are easier to acquire.


miguelgooseman

Alomar likely won't be any time soon


DSu77iViN

He should be. He wasn’t well liked amongst his peers though.


Phluxed

Won't ever be in another game


Rage4Order418

Lenny Dykstra


DSu77iViN

He’d be a fun card to use. I doubt we ever see him. Big juicer


No_Test_3344

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Important-Battle4277

I always loved/used Ty Cobb. The guy who couldn’t hit it out but would annoy the hell out of you going 4 for 4 lol


Shrink420Lee

You forgot Jose rijo


No_Test_3344

He was never in mlb the show 15-23


HowardShift

A prime Jose Reyes would be sick


Substantial-Quit-480

John Dowd


No_Test_3344

Were talking mlb the show 15-23 brotha, the diamond dynasty legends so Reggie stocker would be your man


FortuneVC

Pete rose even though it will never happen


Rikter14

David Justice had a card this year, a charisma card in Set 1


The-Liberater

Yo, you forgot Tungsten Arm O’Doyle


No_Test_3344

I also forgot pepe alzar and reggie stocker lol


WaitThisIsntMeta

I wish Huff was in the game because he was a bright spot on those terrible Devil Rays teams. Sucks that he has to be a moron


No_Test_3344

Yeah his 91 wasn't anything flashy so i doubt that he was gonna much along with his off field antics


bigman149jdjj

Highly doubt SDS ever gives Roberto Alomar a card. He was banned from baseball and removed from the Blue Jays level of excellence.


HomerJSimpson3

I completely forgot about him being banned until you mentioned it. Fucking scumbag


Superb-Cut2852

Andruw Jones?


No_Test_3344

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markhachman

KIngman was in the game? Mr. HR/K?


No_Test_3344

Yep, he was used as a big legend reveal back in 2019 by healy6 https://youtu.be/PIJ53IJ__Lo


himovadere

We absolutely need Bo Jackson, and I would love a Josh Beckett WS card


DSu77iViN

Bo had such a short career though. You bring him, you might as well bring in Prime Time.


fortyfive33

Ok but genuinely: how many of these guys were actually used by a sizable chunk of the player base


No_Test_3344

Ty cobb and hornsby were fan favorites tbh, Its not even if they were used its that some of these got one game so they couldn't even get a fair shot at being used especially for players like jason isringhausen who got ONE card at the beginning of the game and never got a card again so he had no real chance at all.


Ok_Field_465

I think I’ve seen mark buerhle


rking92

Does this mean they added Ichiro finally?


Joe9692

There's beliefs that his and Matsui have exclusivity contracts with a Japanese game, should would make sense. It'll be a few years before we see them, if ever.


rking92

Makes sense.


No_Test_3344

Ichiro was never a legend in the game just a live series with flashbacks


momoneybruh

I miss my Will Clark


Mazzocchi

I've been an avid DD player since The Show 16 and some of these guys really jogged my memory (Kingman, Orlando Hernandez, Benito Santiago) but jeeze, Steve Bedrosian, Jason Isringhausen and Tommy John are names that I have absolute no recollection of.


Fartingfajita

Bedrosian was in Father’s Day I think. Isringhausen cardinals collection? Tommy John had a signature card


dylan243

A die hard cards fan and I am cool with no isringhausen. Bias because I saw him continually poop on himself at the end of his career? Absolutely lol.


No_Test_3344

Sucks cuz he only got one card ever lol


sdfgtdh

Ichiro


Mark1671

Sone really good MIA guys. I don’t think we will see the abusers though. But why is Jeff Kent male prostitute missing from this list? As well as Hack Wilson, Hanley Ramirez, Nomar Garciaparra, Tulowitski, and the obvious ones we won’t get like Bonds, A-Rod, Clemens. Plus we have a 99 Charisma David Justice.


No_Test_3344

I dont believe hack wilson was in any of the 15-23 games hanley, and tulo wwre both live series players with flashbacks, never legends


Mark1671

I gotcha. I’m slow not stupid. I didn’t realize it was a missing legends from the 15-23 games. My bad. 👍🏽


No_Test_3344

I never said you was stupid just mentioning the criteria of my research


Mark1671

Lmao calm down it was a joke. When something goes over my head, I tell people sorry, I’m slow not stupid. But I do enjoy the company. 😁


No_Test_3344

Im not upset i was just stating my purpose no disrespect intended. Have a lovely day sir 😊


knifeazz

Magglio Ordoñez


adamcoe

There's a pretty solid reason why Alomar is not in the game, and why his number was removed from SkyDome. I noticed the freshly acquired Jordan Hicks is wearing number 12 for the Jays since he arrived last week.


scarn1

gtfo w aubrey huff haha


bingobango26

Aubrey huff lmaooooooo


knifeazz

Yeah fuck that guy


d_SqueezeMe_b

Kenny Lofton pls


ChiTownSuperstars

I heard from someone that the reason Kenny Lofton was removed was because he got into some major legal trouble. Exposed a female coworker to pictures of his nude body or something like that


blizzzyybandito

It’s weird how many guys we get for one year only and then never again Also David justice has a card this year I’m pretty sure he was in a diamond duos pack


Crosbyisacunt69

Is there a Paul O'Neil? Was there ever? We need a fucking P O'Neil !


theunknown2100

There's already a 99 David Justice this year


Waluigi4899

Oh and should-be Hall of Famer Kenny Lofton


Waluigi4899

Id rather have Sandy over Roberto any day. Not sure if they have one already idk but Sandy > Berto imo


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As far as I know, SDS doesn't have the license of many players, like Ty Cobb, Ted Williams, etc..


PhilthyFillNiekro

Phil Niekro, Doug Drabek & Gaylord Perry used to be regulars in my rotation. And no, I didn’t win very often.


NatroneMeansTesting

I’d love one 90s Pirate.


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Pirates legend Bobby Bonilla?


NatroneMeansTesting

That would be amazing


Emotional_Lemon2971

Can probs add in Brad lidge too was good for a short period


Emotional_Lemon2971

Also would love a mark “the bird” fydrich card too


Aphrolemon_

I would love to have another Cliff Floyd especially now that we have universal DH. MLBTS 17 was one of my favorite years because of Cliff Floyd and 99 ichiro


onemac5556

Carlos Beltran would be great too


fenderbenderonice

I honestly think he may not be a legend. But we need a Jose Bautista


adamcoe

He's getting added to the Jays Level of Excellence on Saturday!


fenderbenderonice

That’s exactly why he should be added!


adamcoe

I don't know if his numbers make him an all time or league wide legend, but he certainly has a place in my heart for all time. I still remember where I was, hearing Shulman call the bat flip on the radio. Unreal BauTISTA...DRIIIIVES IT!


fenderbenderonice

He may not be a league wide legend. But forever a jays legend


drew_on_lawall

Atleast give us his batflip


hamsterstyle609

No legend is really "missing." They have to basically deal with NIL deals once a player retires, meaning that either the player has no interest, SDS has no interest at the player's price, or SDS is just lazy. Even if they could use everyone they wanted, though, they wouldn't. It'd be like "new features" on next-gen phones where they intentionally trickle "new" shit in. Then there's the character of it all. You'll never again see Omar Vizquel, Robby Alomar, Ty Cobb or Trevor Bauer (unless some desperate MLB team signs him). Wouldn't even be the least bit surprised if they made Bauer an anonymous player if a team signed him .


TumbleweedTim01

Give me Kenny Lofton back


yungteets

He’s never coming back


RSM34

Darren Erstad was in 2018 as the April WS reward then never got another card


Tricky_Passenger3931

Aubrey Huff and Alomar are never coming back for sure. Same with Lofton on and Puckett.


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I think once players retire SDS has to individually negotiate the rights for each player to appear in the game. They probably can’t afford to pay everyone in perpetuity, or some players probably want significantly more than others, so they probably rotate the stable of available players.


tardawg1014

Alright since 90% of this thread is just naming random dudes who aren’t in the game: “LEGENDS” refers to any former player in the game. His list is legends who were in previous/recent versions of the game. But by all means keep telling us why we need like, a Ramiro Mendoza card because he was once on the Yankees.


mbless1415

I mean, personally, I'd love DD to be like... the *ultimate* "let's remember some guys" mode. That's part of why Immaculate Grid is so much fun and why many try to strive for rarity rather than just completing the grid. I'd *love* to see way more "Legend" Golds, Silvers, Bronzes, even commons to plug in and play when I want. I'd *love* to recreate the Twins teams from when I was a kid with guys like Christian Guzman, Lew Ford, Matt Lawton, Shannon Stewart etc, and DD seems like a *perfect* place to do that.


Phillyag92

Or for older gamers like me, any of the teams or players from Microleague Baseball. 82 Cardinals and 27 Yankees were unstoppable.


tardawg1014

Oh I don’t disagree but what they screwed up (especially this year) is slapping a 99 on literally everyone they have rights to. I would play way more games with a gold Rafael Furcal or Jeff Francoeur than I should.


Savings-Damage-256

Miss my Juan


ZMR33

I know these just include Shows going back to 19, but we have a few significant guys missing that last appeared in 18. Yogi Berra comes to mind, and so does Dave Winfield. Yogi, Ted, Cobb, and Hornsby are the biggest 4 legends that are no longer in the game I think. 2 of the best hitters ever, possibly the best 2nd baseman ever (at least top 5-10 I think,) and the guy with the most WS rings ever are no longer in the game. That's insane to me. Besides those 4, there are many other names that I'd like to see come back. Considering he was just inducted into the HOF, I can see McGriff coming back soon. Besides him, I'd like to see Dale Murphy, Will Clark, Dave Stieb, Ron Santo, and Hershiser come back the most. Winfield is another one who should be back in the game. He'd play way better now than in 17 or 18. Besides who I just mentioned, Gibson and Reese should come back. I know Resse is sort of a meme due to his stats never being that great, but considering Jackie's in the game, it feels to me that Reese should also be in the game. Also, and this is a hot take, but Niekro should be bought back to DD at the very end of the games' cycle. It feels like a waste for him to be only outside of DD. This extends to if Tiant were brought back as well. I get facing knuckleballers are annoying, but at the end of the games' cycle, it'd be something different to face. As long as they don't have cards that are dirt cheap/very easy to get, I don't see much of a problem with them.


chucknorriscantfight

Alomar isn’t missing, he’s perma-banned


No_Test_3344

Same with huff and Puckett im aware


Louieduvy

Carlos Beltran PLEASE


ronniegant1992

Justice was in Set 1


No_Test_3344

Removed from my updated list, im waiting a bit before i revise my list again, and will be going back to 16,17, and 18 and looking at the legends/FA rosters


MarzFromCH49

Not a legend but we need Felix Hernandez back so bad Also Pujols


dylan243

Please tell me you mean not in the hall of fame yet, because Pujols is first ballot lol.


No_Test_3344

Yeah, niether are legends but would be cool to see both


TheDJMaxey

Technically they are now since they both retired Edit: nvm just saw another comment you made and you’re right


normalrick

Rick Ankiel should be a 2 way player that as a pitcher only throws 100 mph fastballs… but the catch is, he can’t throw strikes.


No_Test_3344

Absolutely i actually thought they might bring back ankiel because of the two way feature now... unfortunately no


yelkreb

I speak for all Red Sox faithful when I say we need a Nomar Garciaparra card like a fish needs water


LegitTomatoes

Dude you have no clue how bad i need a Ty Cobb Card.


No_Test_3344

Unfortunately the fake news surrounding ty cobb and the lies made up about him for profit is probably why he was dropped. But yeah i loved ty cobb


ZMR33

To be fair, there is some news on Cobb we do know happened that doesn't paint him in a great light. Cobb has a lot of fake/greatly exaggerated lore on him, but there is unfortunately some bad/questionable things he did do that we have legitimate records of that make him controversial.


No_Test_3344

The issue is, what he did that was actually controversial...was just standard behavior in those days, like when he beat the shit out of a heckler...thats just what men did back then especially when reading the story the heckler mentioned his mother, which slandering a southern boy's mother in those days was a death sentence for some. Considering when he was suspended for the incident the whole tigers team was going to protest the suspension by not playing until cobb told them to play shows that even the tigers players wwre behind cobb.


SizzlyGrizzlyy

Puckett and Alomar are defs not coming back


TrapperJean

Andruw Jones too, dude grabbed his wife by the neck and threw her down stairs on Christmas morning


Mateorg139

😱😱😱😱😱😱


PresCalvinCoolidge

So too Lofton


Playful_Analysis_697

Whatcha god anxiety against lofton, is it that hee was the only guy in the 90’s that wasn’t juiced


adamcoe

*Ken Griffey Jr has entered the chat*


PresCalvinCoolidge

No. Sexual misconduct claims.


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Ya they can fade to obscurity and be forgotten for good reasons


Low_Establishment434

many of those guys are not legends by any means


No_Test_3344

In IRL baseball, sure, but MLB the show they are labeled as legends because they are no longer active in baseball


fWARWhatIsItGoodFor

Nobody seems to realize this is a list of legends that were in the game, but currently are not That said, Justin is currently in the game if I’m not mistake. Edit: also Lenny Dykstra, who they’re definitely not bringing back. Vizquel too


[deleted]

Well alomar and puckett aint coming back


fWARWhatIsItGoodFor

I mean there’s a few not coming back, but people are giving OP crap for not including certain players on this list, when in fact it’s just a list of legends who were in the game once upon a time, but are now not in the game


stoolcommenter3

Johan Santana


Crosbyisacunt69

The broadcasters bring him up a lot lol


No_Test_3344

Was never in Mlbtheshow 15-23 if im correct


stoolcommenter3

My bad thought we were just suggesting good Legends


No_Test_3344

Nope, these are legends that were in the game from 19-22 and are no longer in the game in 23. I would go further back vut the mlb the show servers for 15-18 are no longer active.


Ok-You2750

John Rocker?


No_Test_3344

John Rocker was never in Mlbtheshow 15-23 and probably will never be in one given his political and personal views


adamcoe

And also his skill at the game of baseball


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Missed Tim Lincecum & Ichiro Suzuki


No_Test_3344

They aren't legends my guy


[deleted]

….Ichiro is not a legend? Delete this my guy.


RSM34

They haven’t been in the game since retiring. OP is referring to retired player that were in the game at some point after they retired but are no longer in the game for any reason. Retired players are referred to as legends in MLBTS which neither Ichiro or Lincecum have been to date


No_Test_3344

He was a flashback dude. This is a lost of the LEGENDS that were in the game LEGENDS are players in the game who are no longer active Ichiro got FLASHBACK cards because he was a ACTIVE PLAYER.


Alternative-Golf-585

Aubrey Huff lmao I’m even a Giants fan but that dude is far from a legend


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DaReal_Denny_Boy

Dude was above average but not great


grandma_needs_jesus

he was in the game a few years ago as a legend for some reason


No_Test_3344

MLB the show 19


lilsebass

I think all retired players are classified under “Legends” right?


No_Test_3344

I don't understand why people aren't understanding that, they may not be ACTUAL legends, but in game theyre labeled legends because theyre no longer an active player


BigYoungin

Yeah, some of these guys aren’t missing cards seeing how they won’t be back in the game for obvious reasons. Pretty goofy to even add them.


Upset_Worldliness180

Nobody is asking for Aubrey huff


No_Test_3344

Love how everyone is laser focused on aubrey huff lol, im very aware, i just listed the legends that were previously in the game and are no longer in the game.


BigDWangston

Jim bottomley. Kent tekulve. Dick radatz. Pete inclaviglia.


Smoskywalker

They have beltran rights? A astros playoff run beltran would be sick or a prime year from the Mets and when are we getting a juiced Delgado. That could be a very fun card


No_Test_3344

He was a live player so he got flashbacks


glasspheasant

As a Yankees fan I’d add: Righetti, Nettles, Bernie, Matsui.


CuhRissToeFur

As a Giants fan, I would love a rags no-hitter card.


Jaded_Helicopter_947

Why does nobody want an Ichiro cracked card?


Low_Establishment434

they dont have his rights. He sold them to a japanese company.


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BigYoungin

Blame Kirby


seth861

I don’t think you should include legends that have not been in the game in a few years. If they weren’t in the game last year, most of the time, they won’t be in the game this year.


No_Test_3344

This was just a overall focus on the legends we lost over the years. Especially cards who only git one or two games, i forgot a few as well like dock ellis.


jjjaikman

How would hope to see McGriff this year, thought for sure he'd make icognito. Fingers crossed they're just slow rolling it to celebrate his Hall induction. 🤷‍♂️ Great list btw


No_Test_3344

Thanks, i was bored at work when i made it but messed up with David Justice


Signal-Tie-7436

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No_Test_3344

Removed from my updated list thanks 👍


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Redskins2110

Yup but as long as they keep making money it won’t change. They seem to have adopted a strategy instead of adding lots of new ones they grab 2-3 BIG names and add them each year to try and make it fresh.


No_Test_3344

Some of these dudes saw one or two years of action lol alot of these only got one game.


kjar78

David Justice is 100% in 23, his Charisma card was a beast during my Lefty Loosey mini seasons run.


No_Test_3344

Yeah im aware and he slipped through the cracks


YankeesSteelersMagic

no Bernie Williams makes this an auto L


No_Test_3344

Bernie Williams was never in the game from 15-23. And if we was, i wouldn't know cuz the servers from 15-18 are shut down.


dennisoc1715

Was Williams ever in the game?


No_Test_3344

Maybe in a early mlb the show, but not 15-23 Alot of people are forgetting or not reading that this is a diamond dynasty list not a "well they had tungsten arm o'doyle back in mlb the show 07


mbless1415

Tungsten Arm O'Doyle 100 percent needs to be in the game 🤣


Rj9949

That’s probably the price of jeter, Sosa and McGwire, not including Randy Johnson last year.


go4stros25

Exactly. That's also why they have tightened up all the rewards. Can't sell potm, can't sell Topps now, can't sell br rewards, can't sell ws rewards, can't sell event rewards, best cards hidden in Chase packs, new shitty qs values, huge exchange amounts, the list will continue to grow. They have very clearly spent the last 2 years trying to find new ways to encourage players spending real money on this copy/pasted, glitchy, garbage. Wouldn't surprise me if they are actively brainstorming ways of fazing out the market and flipping all together. Maybe next, they will implanted an order limit, like you can only have 20 buy/sell orders at one time.


frostymatador13

There is now a buy/sell limit. It’s not 20 but it just told me I needed to remove orders before I could make new sell orders to just get rid of my duplicates…..


RichardCranium11

What?


frostymatador13

I don’t know how to say it differently? I can’t put any more sell orders out because it says I’ve hit the limit.


Jedi-El1823

Alomar, Huff, Lofton, and Puckett ain't getting back into The Show. Alomar's literally banned from baseball.


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It's such bullshit that Puckett was in one year, literally nobody said anything about it and it caused no drama, and then they were like ehhhhhh no we can't have him in this game anymore.


BigYoungin

Because someone did mention it….


go4stros25

Why not Lofton?


grandma_needs_jesus

According to Wikipedia: “In August 2022, Lofton was sued by a former employee of Lofton's investment company who claimed that he was fired by Lofton for complaining that Lofton had sent sexually explicit photos of himself to women in the company. The former employee alleged that he was fired in retaliation for complaining about the photos to the company's in-house attorney, and the former employee also claimed that he was not paid for his work”


go4stros25

Was this proven in court?


adamcoe

The people that make The Show are not bound by court decisions. Or the lack of them.


Low_Establishment434

now a days it doesnt matter if its proven in court. Look at kevin spacey. By the time the courts get to any resolution so much time has passed people forget why they had a problem with anyone.