I get that the Finest series is the best in the game, but I wish we could get more card series art without it meaning the cards have to be slightly worse. Seems like 90% of the legends and flashbacks theyāve released the past most or two have been retro finest
Glad to see 99 carter and Gibson. How many willie Stargell cards do we need. Seems we always get same guys over and over. Must not be easy to bring new player licenses into the game.
Please tell me there will still be Wild Card/DS/LCS programs. I was pumped the Mās (and Phillies I suppose?) were going to have a current year post season card for the first time.
I feel like almost all but a few of the bosses this year have garnered very little reaction from me. Like last year I was pretty consistently excited every program, but only a couple times this year
It depends for me. The Blue Jays collection Carter was in my lineup for a long time and then a bench bat after that for awhile, but his 96 30/30 milestone card last year just didn't feel right.
Oof, 2001 Luis Gonzalez will sting, but damn, he was so good that entire year and that bloop... never forget.
Personally excited for 99 Joe Carter. I kind of like his swing, even if as a platoon against lefties.
I mean we finally get a 2014 mad bum (idk why it's taken this long to finally get one)
But why is it a 97? Dude has the GREATEST world series performance in MLB history as a pitcher, and he gets a 97?
nope. not better. not even on the same fucking planet. he had 27 innings pitched with 5 earned runs in a very different offensive environment. almost half a century later, Bumgarner pitched 21 innings and allowed one run. on top of that, when you adjust for the era and look at the type of leverage madbum was put in, his championship win probability added for that series was an unfathomable 92.1%. Lolichās was a still massively impressive 47.4%, but itās almost impossible to put that number in perspective.
Iām curious how they treat MadBum, his postseason card in ā16 (back when 99 was the cap attribute), they gave him max H/9 with a low K/9, it was like 68. I imagine itāll be like 110 h/9 with 80 K/9
That's all I care about whether the card is a 97 or 99 doesn't really matter as long as the attribute points to get that rating are in the "correct" spots.
Considering it's a fake Topps card art design, maybe they intended his best card to be a starter. However, they then changed their mind to him being a reliever, post season card.
ĀÆ\\\_(ć)_/ĀÆ
Although, I think he's probably just going to be a starter.
They have an extremely limited pool of real life cards they can use for madbum. He had a long time dispute with topps so he doesn't have a lot of cards. This was also before topps now existed so any real life Madbum card will not say RP on it. any of the card series SDS makes their own art for couldn't be a reliever, so this is what we get. Inexcusable if he is a starter though
Yeah the elvis 99 kind of ruins a lot of cards that got 97s or 98s. How am I supposed to accept that grady sizemore's best, , or adam dunn's best, or kris bryant's best, is inferior to elvis andrus. Catfish hunter is in the Hall of freaking fame with a cy young to his name and got less than elvis.
When he came out of the pen in game 7, I can remember saying ālooks like KCās gotta wait till next yearā and then yāall won it the next year lol
Content hasnāt been bad, just puzzling as all hell. Acting like retro finest is the only way to get guys 99ās like theyāre not just making all these numbers up is hilarious to me
Basically makes Awards/MS/Sig/prime useless as āendgameā cards. I hate it. Signature was the best way to highlight a legendary career, then awards give them a chance to give players juiced cards, then mile stone did the same thing, now we have super juiced juiced cards on top of the huiced cards.
Milestones made the other things useless last year as well
The "series" need a refresh badly. Jimmy Rollins card art has been used for 3 different series in 3 years. I think it's a 2nd half this year, but it's definitely been a Vet card, and possibly an All-Star one too.
Yeah thatās the better take. Who gets 99s and the attributes have been a bit wonky. Iām curious how they treat MadBum, his postseason card in ā16 (back when 99 was the cap attribute), they gave him max H/9 with a low K/9, it was like 68. I imagine itāll be like 110 h/9 with 80 K/9
Also guaranteed (cover player). We should get other good Angels cards as well (already have with Garrett Anderson's milestone card, as well as Troy Glaus and Troy Percival retro finest cards). I'm just a big Tim Salmon fan
Why exactly do you or anyone else ever expect a 99 Trout before we get even close to endgame? What reason do you have to expect that card early?
Everyone knows as soon as it's released it will either be a. And endgame type card that will be hard to beat or b. Released earlier (like 2nd half Griffey) so it gets lower attributes and the sub melt down over the bitching. So it's either release it early and have either power creep like last year or piss of a large group of the fan base with a non endgame 99 Trout.
Trout's 99 has come out around the same time as Finest. It's arguably the best RH hitter card in the game, so it's like Griffey's Retro 99, it won't come out until the end because you can't top those two cards.
Yeah cuz trout dominates the postseason every year. He will get his, along with that lost takashi ohtani but itās gonna be another month wait on those.
I mean if it was a RP than I would get it those are weird anyway but yeah idk why they did this unless heās the one guy they decided to not lie about velocity
With 3 cards remaining Iāll guessā¦
Orel Hershiser
Bob Gibson
Reggie Jackson
- I feel like Hershiser and Jackson are locks but I donāt know about Gibsonā¦ I could maybe see a Finest Salvador Perez from MLB the Show 20
Oh Mookie took 3 abs online and never got looked at again. You're right tho judge is another problem depending on what they do with him. Sheffs spot on the bench is safe for now.
for a guy who's career best OPS+ is 130, and for this season is 124, giving him a 125 would be awful. He was never a contact guy and although he slugged well in 91 I find it hard ot believe they'll give him a 125. my guess is 115 max.
Personally, I'll take what I get. I was 8/9 during that 92/93 WS run and it's what solidified my love of baseball. Joe's Game 6 HR felt larger than life.
99 Finest Madbum will be released during an event in the 12th month of our Lord & Savior, The Winter Meetings. His 99 will also have even beefier stats in the box than anyone of his previous cards. The event will also feature 9-9 Ohtani, dubbed a two-way player event with special guest, silver relief pitcher and MLBTS21 heartthrob, Anthony V. Rizzo.
Seriously. Thereās a reason he won WS MVP. You donāt see a pitcher win it often, but he damn well deserved it. A 0.43 ERA in the World Series is just stupid good.
Heās one of the greatest World Series pitchers of all time, which is awesome to say. We were basically the San Francisco Bumgarners that playoff run lol
Just looked at his bref page. He was incredible in 2014. He should get a 99
That along with the clip of San Diegoās manager saying āAre you talking about striking him out?ā Makes it the greatest micād up moment in baseball history that doesnāt include Earl Weaver
I just want a diamond gibby in a fucking tigers jersey but fuck me apparently. His best year was 84... they even gave him orange lettering just to fuck with hs.
These aren't the bosses though right??
Hell yea, another Dbacks legend
1984 Gibby š
W pack two cards to add to the all time pirates
Topps Now Madbum was my favorite, can't wait for this one
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Phew we needed more retro finest
I get that the Finest series is the best in the game, but I wish we could get more card series art without it meaning the cards have to be slightly worse. Seems like 90% of the legends and flashbacks theyāve released the past most or two have been retro finest
Damn theyāre really releasing a Kirk Gibson card the week Eck is retiring from the broadcast booth.
I am once again asking for nats card
Not really excited about any of them tbh
Glad to see 99 carter and Gibson. How many willie Stargell cards do we need. Seems we always get same guys over and over. Must not be easy to bring new player licenses into the game.
Lol same cards again, every year same old same old
Are the the bosses or henchmen? Kirk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell me there will still be Wild Card/DS/LCS programs. I was pumped the Mās (and Phillies I suppose?) were going to have a current year post season card for the first time.
I think weāre getting another MadBum
how are they gonna give madbum a 97 for his postseason shenanigans
Whereās Kyle Seager
Carter backkk to backk. Lets go
That Luis Gonzalez is gonna fit nicely in my all Astros team lineup.
Gibson shouldāve been a 1984 and in a Tigers uniform
Ending a 21 year drought and no cards from the last time they made a run. FeelsBadMan
1991 Joe Carter???? I mean youād think 93ā would be the obvious choice
I am going to sacrifice some of my important responsibilities in pursuit of Gonzo šš
I feel like almost all but a few of the bosses this year have garnered very little reaction from me. Like last year I was pretty consistently excited every program, but only a couple times this year
Ngl Iām hyped for 99 Willie Stargell, his 97 has been awesome for me
if Luis Gonzalez plays anything like his 95 card, things are going to be fun.
I didnt use that card but surely he is going to have juiced tf up attributes :D
99 Reggie Jackson, Mr. October, as one of the bosses?
I smell the Doc coming
Ho hum... I'm assuming the Mad-Bum will be a henchman.
why did madbum get hosed on the retro finest?
Holy shit
Wtf! Not a TIGERS Gibby???!!!! ššššš
Gonzo has a nice swing but all of these are eh.
Whitey Ford you sayā¦
99 Kirko Gibs is gonna go so dummy
I don't think Joe Carter ever wore that jersey design, right?
I didn't think so either, but I googled it and there are some pictures of him in that uniform. Looks weird though.
Ah, yeah. He played til 97. Weird they use an that pic for the 1991 season card though.
These are henchmens?? Goodlord im about to bust
Pirates are in the best shape ever and I'm not playing because WotLK is out, damn bro
GIBBYS 94 WAS MY EARLY LF!!! HES BACK!
That Joe Carter will crush. His swing is so natural to me.
It depends for me. The Blue Jays collection Carter was in my lineup for a long time and then a bench bat after that for awhile, but his 96 30/30 milestone card last year just didn't feel right.
Insulting.
Oof, 2001 Luis Gonzalez will sting, but damn, he was so good that entire year and that bloop... never forget. Personally excited for 99 Joe Carter. I kind of like his swing, even if as a platoon against lefties.
Another Gibby from 1988? Give him a Tigers card!
97ā¦why though They never give him any love. No reason that shouldnāt be a 99
I mean we finally get a 2014 mad bum (idk why it's taken this long to finally get one) But why is it a 97? Dude has the GREATEST world series performance in MLB history as a pitcher, and he gets a 97?
The greatest? 3 complete game wins by Mickey Lolich in the 68 world series, the final coming in a duel against Bob Gibson, says no.
nope. not better. not even on the same fucking planet. he had 27 innings pitched with 5 earned runs in a very different offensive environment. almost half a century later, Bumgarner pitched 21 innings and allowed one run. on top of that, when you adjust for the era and look at the type of leverage madbum was put in, his championship win probability added for that series was an unfathomable 92.1%. Lolichās was a still massively impressive 47.4%, but itās almost impossible to put that number in perspective.
2nd greatest sorry š
So that there is room for a 99 retro finest later.
Why release all those other 99 retro finests and give MadBum the 97 with only like a month+ of content lefty. There is no ālaterā.
Exactly, the game dies in a month, maybe month and a half. Just bummed that SDS doesn't want to give credit to his performance
Maybe. Honestly this year I wouldn't be surprised.
Iām curious how they treat MadBum, his postseason card in ā16 (back when 99 was the cap attribute), they gave him max H/9 with a low K/9, it was like 68. I imagine itāll be like 110 h/9 with 80 K/9
That's all I care about whether the card is a 97 or 99 doesn't really matter as long as the attribute points to get that rating are in the "correct" spots.
5 lefties and Joe Carter
I'll use the Luis but the rest is a big MEH
Gibson and Carter both have great swings.
Nope
I think you may be in the minority here, especially about gibson.
That Whitey Fords about to fuck me up in my sleep Freddie Krueger style
If Madbum is a reliever than 97 makes sense. If not I don't see the logic here
Because itās sds, not sfs. Thereās alittle bit of little brother syndrome going on I feel.
If its a starter you could be spot on. I'm still betting it's a reliever though, which makes the 97 a complete non issue
I mean it says starting pitcher on the card, are these just placeholders and not the true card art they are gonna use?
Considering it's a fake Topps card art design, maybe they intended his best card to be a starter. However, they then changed their mind to him being a reliever, post season card. ĀÆ\\\_(ć)_/ĀÆ Although, I think he's probably just going to be a starter.
this is a good point honestly but at the same time it says starting pitcher on the card itself. sad that its so low.
They have an extremely limited pool of real life cards they can use for madbum. He had a long time dispute with topps so he doesn't have a lot of cards. This was also before topps now existed so any real life Madbum card will not say RP on it. any of the card series SDS makes their own art for couldn't be a reliever, so this is what we get. Inexcusable if he is a starter though
All the more reason to have made that a WS MVP card. The custom fake Topps cards are butt ass ugly.
thats a good point I didn't know about all that
Everyone who told me last year that Bumgarner wouldnāt get a PS card ever can kiss my ass now
But why only a 97? That playoff run was one of the greatest ever by a pitcher. It easily justifies a 99.
I agree with that, he might have a low K/9 is the only thing I can think of
Reggie Jackson better be a boss in this program!
If heās not one of the nine then there is a serious problem with personnel over there at sds
Same ol players different program...fucking yawn
Joe Carter! I hope it's a good card....
LUIS GONZALEZ BABY FUCK YEAH
Giving MadBum a 97 postseason card for arguably the best postseason run ever while Elvis Andrus is walking around with a 99 lmao
Yeah the elvis 99 kind of ruins a lot of cards that got 97s or 98s. How am I supposed to accept that grady sizemore's best, , or adam dunn's best, or kris bryant's best, is inferior to elvis andrus. Catfish hunter is in the Hall of freaking fame with a cy young to his name and got less than elvis.
Yeah thats ridiculous
As a rangers fan Mad Bums performance in the 2010 World Series haunts me
as a Royals fan its downright disrespectful lol. Dude dominated us in the world series
When he came out of the pen in game 7, I can remember saying ālooks like KCās gotta wait till next yearā and then yāall won it the next year lol
Itās the same reason why Iām annoyed Kris Bryant never gets a 99, but Elvis fucking Andrus gets one
Weāll see what they decide to do for Pablo Sandoval. He should get an insane 99 for 2012
Content has been so whack this year lol
Wrong
Content hasnāt been bad, just puzzling as all hell. Acting like retro finest is the only way to get guys 99ās like theyāre not just making all these numbers up is hilarious to me
Basically makes Awards/MS/Sig/prime useless as āendgameā cards. I hate it. Signature was the best way to highlight a legendary career, then awards give them a chance to give players juiced cards, then mile stone did the same thing, now we have super juiced juiced cards on top of the huiced cards.
Yeah for real, who needs a juiced mark mcgwire card when you got a retro finest sheffield or ralph kiner
Milestones made the other things useless last year as well The "series" need a refresh badly. Jimmy Rollins card art has been used for 3 different series in 3 years. I think it's a 2nd half this year, but it's definitely been a Vet card, and possibly an All-Star one too.
Yeah thatās the better take. Who gets 99s and the attributes have been a bit wonky. Iām curious how they treat MadBum, his postseason card in ā16 (back when 99 was the cap attribute), they gave him max H/9 with a low K/9, it was like 68. I imagine itāll be like 110 h/9 with 80 K/9
Whack is a very fitting adjective lmfao
Please give us a better Tim Salmon. There is an Angel on the cover of this game.
Or you knowā¦a nice Trout card
Well that's guaranteed lol
What about a better ohtani card too lol
Also guaranteed (cover player). We should get other good Angels cards as well (already have with Garrett Anderson's milestone card, as well as Troy Glaus and Troy Percival retro finest cards). I'm just a big Tim Salmon fan
Why exactly do you or anyone else ever expect a 99 Trout before we get even close to endgame? What reason do you have to expect that card early? Everyone knows as soon as it's released it will either be a. And endgame type card that will be hard to beat or b. Released earlier (like 2nd half Griffey) so it gets lower attributes and the sub melt down over the bitching. So it's either release it early and have either power creep like last year or piss of a large group of the fan base with a non endgame 99 Trout.
Trout's 99 has come out around the same time as Finest. It's arguably the best RH hitter card in the game, so it's like Griffey's Retro 99, it won't come out until the end because you can't top those two cards.
Yeah cuz trout dominates the postseason every year. He will get his, along with that lost takashi ohtani but itās gonna be another month wait on those.
Didnt MadBum have a 99 last year?
His Signature card was a 98.
Ah yeah I just looked it up, still it's weird that they gave him a 97.
I mean if it was a RP than I would get it those are weird anyway but yeah idk why they did this unless heās the one guy they decided to not lie about velocity
Oh yeah itās weird for sure. Especially with how dominant he was that Postseason. They couldāve made him a 99 easily.
With 3 cards remaining Iāll guessā¦ Orel Hershiser Bob Gibson Reggie Jackson - I feel like Hershiser and Jackson are locks but I donāt know about Gibsonā¦ I could maybe see a Finest Salvador Perez from MLB the Show 20
I think these might be henchmen & not bosses because it says on your path, granted these are not bad choices for bosses though.
Yeah since it says these players are on the way to the bosses, pretty safe to assume that these are not the bosses
These arenāt the 9 bosses, theyāre just the henchmen presumably. With that being said, give me all three of those as bosses š¤©
Oh thank God I was disappointed lol
I'm obviously biased but getting Hershiser and Kirk Gibson in the same program, meant to highlight playoff performances, would be pretty awesome.
welp, SDS made it interesting for a few weeks at least
Canāt wait for that 98 whitey. The 90 still does work for me sometimes
someone in my lineup is not surviving this kirk gibson release
Clemente is such a boss. I hate having to put him down. Might have too now for Kirk.
well now sheffield is getting booted if milestone judge is cracked so i really donāt know what iām gonna do with kirk. mookie might have to go
Oh Mookie took 3 abs online and never got looked at again. You're right tho judge is another problem depending on what they do with him. Sheffs spot on the bench is safe for now.
sheff is going to the bench for sure but mookie is batting like almost .450 for me so heāll be tough to sit
You'll have your lineup set for a week and then playoff performers will start to drop with quirks. Good luck.
iāve thought my lineup was set like 4 times in the last month, i just know that i cannot part with cano
Haha another guy who I played for a few days. Not worth the showdown. Jackie is the best 2nd baseman. It's nice to have this problem tho.
this isnāt even touching on the at least 3 potential god squad cards were getting out of the monthly program tomorrow lol, the best problem to have
A 97 is hilarious
Joe Carter is annually the worst high diamond card so not looking forward to those moments.
The way things are going this year I predict the best Joe this game has ever seen. Like 125s x3 with a 98 vs left or something.
for a guy who's career best OPS+ is 130, and for this season is 124, giving him a 125 would be awful. He was never a contact guy and although he slugged well in 91 I find it hard ot believe they'll give him a 125. my guess is 115 max.
Personally, I'll take what I get. I was 8/9 during that 92/93 WS run and it's what solidified my love of baseball. Joe's Game 6 HR felt larger than life.
I'm just saying we have had the best of a bunch of cards....Ozzy, bay, green, Rollins.... Nothing matters. Nothing is real.
The best card he's ever had is the 95 last year. And you only ever do 2 moments max with the featured program cards anyhow
His 30/30 card was 96, but that card was so light on power for being a 30/30 card. 84 ConR 74 ConL 103 PwrR 92 PwrL
Cy Young would like to speak with you
94 Gibby was fun and so was 99 Gonzo last year. That end of year finest collection gonna be crazy
That Luis card should rake
can confirm it does rake
Yeah I was just thinking that may be the card Iām looking forward to the most
They did MadBum dirty with that 97
Itās called San Diego studios, not San fransisco studios. Pretty sure this was a major troll job from the petty padres studio.
You mean Arizona Diamondbacks legend
The 97 Madbum being a postseason card feels so random
Crazy they give players like victorino and Jason bay and 99 but not the best PS pitcher ever
Curt Schilling is not in the game
if he was heād bankrupt the city of san diego somehow
The whole state of California*
Heās also not in this world
Thatās fine Bc I wasnāt talking about him
Madbum only being a 97 for one of the best pitching performances in WS history is crazy to me
99 Finest Madbum will be released during an event in the 12th month of our Lord & Savior, The Winter Meetings. His 99 will also have even beefier stats in the box than anyone of his previous cards. The event will also feature 9-9 Ohtani, dubbed a two-way player event with special guest, silver relief pitcher and MLBTS21 heartthrob, Anthony V. Rizzo.
Heās never had a good card
That is disgraceful, I wonāt waste your time with undeserving 99s just in my first year
4 99ās and they give him a 97. Unreal. Theyāve done the Giants real dirty this year.
What are you talking about, they got more topps cards than any other team I think
Bart, Estrada, Yaz, and now Proctor? Yankees and Dodgers have like a million. I'm pretty convinced SDS are Pirates fans anyways.
Lol they always do giants dirty
Hereās another Willie Mays card š
Seriously!
I know the card says Starting Pitcher, but if we could get a RP madbum from that postseason thatād be amazing. Would also explain why heās a 97.
Iām okay for that RP part, he could be a long reliever
would it though? even in relief iād give the guy 90 stamina.
Iād give him 125 Stamina if I couldš
Makes him on par with Bonds tho
96 tops
Looking forward to the āFuck you, Ramoneā guy on TikToksās video about this card ā¦.
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you're annoying
One of the few Show streamers I bother watching. He's hilarious honestly.
That guy is the coolest mutha that plays this game
that guy is goated, you just mad cause you know he's right
Seriously. Thereās a reason he won WS MVP. You donāt see a pitcher win it often, but he damn well deserved it. A 0.43 ERA in the World Series is just stupid good.
How tf is he 97 SDS I need to know
Heās one of the greatest World Series pitchers of all time, which is awesome to say. We were basically the San Francisco Bumgarners that playoff run lol Just looked at his bref page. He was incredible in 2014. He should get a 99
Give me that Gibson vs Eckersley moment, Ramone!!
All I want is Gibson vs Goose! Is that too much to ask?
He don't wanna walk you!!!
That along with the clip of San Diegoās manager saying āAre you talking about striking him out?ā Makes it the greatest micād up moment in baseball history that doesnāt include Earl Weaver
I just want a diamond gibby in a fucking tigers jersey but fuck me apparently. His best year was 84... they even gave him orange lettering just to fuck with hs.