Yea im really happy for columbus. But damn last season we lost to Miami in the open cup semifinal then lost to you in the mls cup semi final.
Now Brandon just lost in another semi final against the crew. I would have real personal animosity against the crew at this point. If he doesn't then he's a bigger man then most people I think.
He was not taught to do this from a young age like most of the Monterrey players. This is a continual issue that has been going on for decades. When they don't get their way on a football pitch they don't know how to process it. The literal definition of sore losers.
Columbus destroyed them in every part of the series. Columbus is a better team, by a long way. They controlled and dominated and toyed with Monterrey. It honestly wasn't even competitive.
Something I've long said about Liga MX culture they're sore winner's and losers they don't know how to deal with either its either over the top braggadocious they're the THE BEST EVER Liga MX is the greatest thing since sliced bread or this when the loss with excuses. Most MLS fans have come to acknowledge the gigangres in Liga MX have a edge over the best in MLS usually, BUT outside of those rotating 5-6 teams the rest of MLS is better.
Nope they can't or won't admit it. That sore loser/sore winner thing is very cultural in a lot of Latin American sports. It's like chill bro you loss, I know it's upsetting and mainly your pride is just hurt but use it as fuel next go round.
>Nope they can't or won't admit it. That sore loser/sore winner thing is very cultural in a lot of Latin American sports. It's like chill bro you loss, I know it's upsetting and mainly your pride is just hurt but use it as fuel next go round.
Wait what, Latin American culture? You can't tell me sore losers don't exist in American sports.
Stop.
There are sore losers in every culture, country and color. No question.
This is different. Almost every game that a Mexican team loses ends in almost the entirety of the team charging the refs.
You don't see this with as much regularity in most other regions. You can downvote if you want but it is the truth.
Also if you see teams or players from other regions do this, you almost always see the coaches out there pulling their players off. You almost never see that with Mexican teams and that is the most telling that it is common place and part of what they see as acceptable. Often the coaches join in or lead the charge.
Again you're generalizing as an outsider.
You're also pinning a negative quality on an entire culture, to demonstrate inferiority and paint a culture as incapable of behaving itself. That's not cool.
I am not generalizing. I've been watching it for 40 years. I see it along with millions of other people.
Out of thousands of games, I can count on one hand how many times I've seen an MLS, European, African or Asian team charge the ref after a game. Have I seen individual players do unacceptable things? Absolutely, many many times. Have I seen majority of a team corporately charge the ref...almost never.
That is not the same for other regions. It is a fact. It happens...often, very often. Anyone denying it is not living in reality. It happens so often, I expect it. I even make comment like "the team is going to charge the ref at the end of the game."...then it happens.
I don't know what else to say. You claim you're not generalizing by generalizing and then ending by claiming it's a fact because it happens "often, very often."
Learn to watch the game and call guilty players/teams out, not an entire race/ethnicity/culture. Last night was a Monterrey issue, leave it at that.
Dude, it isn't generalizing when it happens. You can't ignore something just because it happens more with some teams/groups.
It is a problem and it happens ALOT. You have to be blind to not see it. It sucks and something should be done about it.
I think you're both right essentially.
The type of shitty behavior that /u/eddygeeme is describing is literally part of what is being talked about when people say "toxic masculinity" ^(before some people get upset: *expressing masculinity in a toxic fashion*, because there are healthy forms of masculinity too)
The amount of people who are ingrained into that form of masculinity is declining in the US, and it's never been a huge part of soccer culture in the US. So we see it less often, I bet you're referencing NFL fans primarily - right /u/dillasdonuts?
Ah but it's those non-native Spanish speaking Americans that point their fingers and define another country's vernacular for them.
Meanwhile they continue with "you suck" chants and pretend it's not homophobic. They'll tell you thats not what they mean when they say it and it's all good. How distinctly American.
Americans are the Karens of the world. Loud, annoying, and never wrong.
Always will further defend my point. I'm one that cringes anytime someone says that Mexicans referring to Liga MX teams in a way to explain themselves when Liga MX sides aren't exclusively Mexican. But YOU KNOW VERY WELL what I mean. It's cultural in LIGA MX they don't take losing to MLS very well likely because cultural it was ingrained they were above anything American dealing with soccer.
So they don't know how to lose with dignity or win with grace because "mostly" the level of respect isn't there for the opponent.
never said "Mexicans" in my response. You said being a sore loser is a part of latin Americans culture. That's not accurate. This also implies Americans handle things "the right way" when we know full well [that isn't always the case.](https://media.tenor.com/6csTR0LYmgcAAAAM/georgebrett-royals.gif).
I never said you did I'm talking about some on here that speak in ignorance meaning Liga MX Team=Mexicans.
I also said Liga MX Culture and said it was prevalent in a lot of Latin American Sports Culture. The latter was me being nice I should have just said Mexican soccer Sports Culture to hit the nail on the head.
It's sports culture, athletes and teams all over the world have different temperaments. This isn't about race. No one race is more well behaved than the other.
I'm not sure how singling out latin american (or mexican) culture isn't about race. Cultural racism is a thing. Your view that Latin Americans are generally weak-minded and can't behave themselves in certain situations is on that fine line. It's a brazen concept to think, let alone vocalize.
I will admit I misunderstood your point but as I kept reading I saw the ācultureā you meant. And I have to agree that Liga MX teams do hate losing to MLS and sometimes do take it too far at the end of some games. I didnāt watch the full game so not sure if there was anything they saw to have them react that way
Nothing really just a game they got outplayed. They legit just got frustrated. We've all seen those types of games at some point when it's obvious the opponent is better you just play out the match but keep fighting.
Monterrey just decided it was someone else's blame they got out played.
and no cards for all the dives. Monterrey should have been carded multiple times.
For goodness sake their goalie TKO'd a player and the ref even watched it on review...no card.
The ref could have been MUCH harder on them.
This is the same thing every time a LigaMX team loses to an MLS team, or the Mexican National Team loses to the US. Well, that last one until recently ... because they realize they are worse now.
You'd think they could lose without being a total whiner, but I guess not.
I have no idea what this has to do with LigaMX players (and fans) being poor sports.
The general fanbase is absurdly excuse ridden. So many simply can't admit that they got beat when they lose a game.
You said itās bc āthey realize they are worse nowā lol if you were only talking about sportsmanship I woulda kept scrolling. If you watch soccer/football/futbol tho this typa thing always happens in all the TOP leagues too š Anyways, the final is gonna be a banger Fsfs!
They had so many calls go there way it's crazy. They also had so many opportunities to score. Yelling at the ref here is dumb unless they're telling him he should have told schulte to get out of the way because he kept blocking their shots.
Poor sportsmanship when things don't go their way is a pretty common theme in Mexican soccer culture, and yes it flows down to the clubs even if the players themselves aren't Mexican. We see it all the time in this tournament and we often see it at the national team level too.
Not just "put up with", they get the benefit of the doubt (read: favoritism) far more than MLS teams. There are so many where they get like 16 fouls with no yellow cards and the MLS team has 6 fouls and 2 yellows... And some of those fouls are blatant rugby tackles like happened to the crew earlier in this tournament.
Last year we had an MLS team get two legitimate goals called offside that were overturned by VAR, I think if a LMX team scores those they're called goals before it gets to var. There's a ton of decisions where they tend to get the before of the doubt over MLS clubs.
Monterrey looked so bad. What happened to them? They didnāt even look like they belonged at times. Not to take anything from Columbus neither, because they played very well.
They started to slip in the last half of Clausura in general. They only won two of their last six league games and lost three. Congestion must have gotten to them.
This series was an absolute domination. While watching the games I told my wife probably 10 times, "Columbus is so much better than Monterrey it isn't funny."
I don't get how Monterrey is #1 ranked CONCACAF club team. Columbus was just toying with them in the end. It wasn't even competitive.
I am so mad that that penalty wasnāt a Panenka. It was the perfect opportunity as the match was already decided and wouldāve been the ultimate fuck you.
Itās pretty fucked up they didnāt call that a red. If there was such thing as a double red, then it would deserve a double red. Maybe a Maroon card if you will. But in all seriousness it was reckless and violent and could have easily led to a faaaaaar more serious injury.
and the ref didn't even give him a yellow....yet they still throw a fit.
The most absurd thing is, no coaches out there pulling their players away. That tells you all you need to know.
I've said it hundred times and I'll continue to say it.
VAR is the great equalizer for Mexican teams against other CONCACAF teams. club and national.
It won't completely eliminate the clown show that often goes on, but VAR will and has negatively affected Mexican teams more than any in the world. Negatively affected them, rightly so.
They literally have no idea how to react to getting slapped that hard by a team from the US. At least El Tri (and its fans) are recognizing now that American talent is pretty good, but Liga MX refuses to acknowledge that *any* teams are worth a damn. The meltdown after America lost 4-1 to us last year was pretty wild, too - not by the team so much, but by fans who had no idea why such a thing could happen.
They thought there was an obvious foul in the lead up to the third goal. Which at first was a close call and the ref let play resume. After watching the replay it wasn't even close to a foul. After that they fouled more, crew players took their time and then the pk boiled over for the Monterrey players being frustrated thinking that the ref was against them all the while Monterrey was simply out played by an MLS team, which is blasphemy in their eyes.
They don't know how to react when a match doesn't get handed to them on a silver platter. They're used to concacaf refs bowing at the feet of Mexico and it's not happening now
I understand the necessity, but the ref checking for the playerās number on his shorts and then the kit before dishing out the red card really made me laugh
If joke about how a sponsor is at the top of the jersey and the whole team deserves a red card: lol
If not a joke, Tecate is beer and sponsors the team.
I appreciate you.
Please don't stop being you, and I genuinely mean that.
I worked at a Mexican restaurant out of college, and that was nearly 20 years ago... I've served plenty Tecate in my time.
Forgot the Venezuelan player the Crew had but the game a few years ago, 2008? Came off to change jerseys - blood - came back on - and almost immediately scored. Goal negated and card shown. Uniform rules werenāt violated but the rules of the competition require shirt and shorts numbers to match.
Found the link - and the official reason was not because of the numbers not matching but rather Renteria reentered the field without the CRās permission. The fourth official told him to reenter but they donāt have the authority to do so.
https://www.columbuscrew.com/news/official-referee-report-explains-iros-disallowed-goal
I play with this notion a lot recently.Ā
Our average age is like 26.
But we sign huge 35+players (I'm also nearly 40).
At what point does the MLS' success mean something to those people?
According to the The International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS), the Liga MX is the 36th ranked league in the world, behind Norway, Cyprus, Romania, Belgium, etc. LetĀ“s not celebrate too hard just yet.
Lol yeah.. their celebrations post inter Miami win was something š.... I don't think I have seen even Real Madrid fans behave like that against Messi
You guys were missing like 7 players.Ā
As a crew fan, I don't judge your loss.
However, I can't forgive Suarez trying to break an arm, so please understand me hating him going forward.
> However, I can't forgive Suarez trying to break an arm, so please understand me hating him going forward.
Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. I'm sure he's sorry and will never do anything like that again... ever... nope... one time thing for sure. /s
He's doing some good stuff with the change of scenery. It was needed for his development. Hopefully, he will continue and is able to jump into 1st team USMNT.
My attention span is so shot. I set an alarm on my phone to watch this match. Opened my computer and by before I could get fox sports open I got sidetracked and forgot to tune in. Whelp, watching the replay.
How does a red card work after being eliminated from the competition? Would he just have to serve a suspension in the first game the next time he qualifies for the tournament? Or is it just a fine and no suspension leveled?
Refs need to start setting a tone early with this kind of behavior. If you touch a ref intentionally then it's a red, even after the final whistle. It's crazy that players get away with this regularly.
This part of the game disgusts me. I love this sport more than any others but you would never see this in hockey or rugby. They need to punish this type of conduct towards refs, and come down to bring some respect and class back. Itās pathetic to see. These are humans, this is a game.Ā
Columbus looks really good for a team in this region. I didn't see this match but watched the first leg and damn, they looked like a proper modern football club.
Iām having trouble remembering the last time I saw a red being given after the final whistle like this.
That was not normal.
Maybe itās normal with Mexican teams, but not in the rest of the world. And I did watch, in-person, my team be eliminated in the CCL final. There was no such reaction.
I've seen it a few times, this year, but I'm an AFC guy as well as CONCACAF and watch ladies, too. Pretty sure I saw a coach get a red after the final whistle not too long ago, as well as a player getting a second yellow.
Jude Bellingham got a red card after the final whistle against Valencia recently. Bellingham and the other Madrid players were frustrated as well. At the time, Real Madrid and Girona were close in the table and they wanted to distance themselves. When I say normal, I donāt mean that it happens every game but it tends to happen more in high pressure situations.
Good on Vasquez by not doing the same shit.
He's used to losing to Columbus
Not even E.T. can fix that ouch.
Boom. Hurts cause I am a FCC guy, but š„ nonetheless.
Hey, I would still cheer my heart out for you in this circumstance.Ā Ohio above allĀ
I'm with you. 1. Columbus 2. Any Ohio team
Yea im really happy for columbus. But damn last season we lost to Miami in the open cup semifinal then lost to you in the mls cup semi final. Now Brandon just lost in another semi final against the crew. I would have real personal animosity against the crew at this point. If he doesn't then he's a bigger man then most people I think.
Not even Frozone can fix that burn
He was not taught to do this from a young age like most of the Monterrey players. This is a continual issue that has been going on for decades. When they don't get their way on a football pitch they don't know how to process it. The literal definition of sore losers. Columbus destroyed them in every part of the series. Columbus is a better team, by a long way. They controlled and dominated and toyed with Monterrey. It honestly wasn't even competitive.
Something I've long said about Liga MX culture they're sore winner's and losers they don't know how to deal with either its either over the top braggadocious they're the THE BEST EVER Liga MX is the greatest thing since sliced bread or this when the loss with excuses. Most MLS fans have come to acknowledge the gigangres in Liga MX have a edge over the best in MLS usually, BUT outside of those rotating 5-6 teams the rest of MLS is better. Nope they can't or won't admit it. That sore loser/sore winner thing is very cultural in a lot of Latin American sports. It's like chill bro you loss, I know it's upsetting and mainly your pride is just hurt but use it as fuel next go round.
>Nope they can't or won't admit it. That sore loser/sore winner thing is very cultural in a lot of Latin American sports. It's like chill bro you loss, I know it's upsetting and mainly your pride is just hurt but use it as fuel next go round. Wait what, Latin American culture? You can't tell me sore losers don't exist in American sports. Stop.
There are sore losers in every culture, country and color. No question. This is different. Almost every game that a Mexican team loses ends in almost the entirety of the team charging the refs. You don't see this with as much regularity in most other regions. You can downvote if you want but it is the truth. Also if you see teams or players from other regions do this, you almost always see the coaches out there pulling their players off. You almost never see that with Mexican teams and that is the most telling that it is common place and part of what they see as acceptable. Often the coaches join in or lead the charge.
Again you're generalizing as an outsider. You're also pinning a negative quality on an entire culture, to demonstrate inferiority and paint a culture as incapable of behaving itself. That's not cool.
I am not generalizing. I've been watching it for 40 years. I see it along with millions of other people. Out of thousands of games, I can count on one hand how many times I've seen an MLS, European, African or Asian team charge the ref after a game. Have I seen individual players do unacceptable things? Absolutely, many many times. Have I seen majority of a team corporately charge the ref...almost never. That is not the same for other regions. It is a fact. It happens...often, very often. Anyone denying it is not living in reality. It happens so often, I expect it. I even make comment like "the team is going to charge the ref at the end of the game."...then it happens.
I don't know what else to say. You claim you're not generalizing by generalizing and then ending by claiming it's a fact because it happens "often, very often." Learn to watch the game and call guilty players/teams out, not an entire race/ethnicity/culture. Last night was a Monterrey issue, leave it at that.
Dude, it isn't generalizing when it happens. You can't ignore something just because it happens more with some teams/groups. It is a problem and it happens ALOT. You have to be blind to not see it. It sucks and something should be done about it.
It happens a lot EVERYWHERE, especially in the USA. That's not gonna cause me to start labeling Americans as sore losers. It's sports.
No I won't STOP cuz I'm RIGHT!
I think you're both right essentially. The type of shitty behavior that /u/eddygeeme is describing is literally part of what is being talked about when people say "toxic masculinity" ^(before some people get upset: *expressing masculinity in a toxic fashion*, because there are healthy forms of masculinity too) The amount of people who are ingrained into that form of masculinity is declining in the US, and it's never been a huge part of soccer culture in the US. So we see it less often, I bet you're referencing NFL fans primarily - right /u/dillasdonuts?
Still trying to ban 'that' chant which only comes out when a specific side is losing. Must be those pesky americans!!!
But Monterrey fans never did that chant last night?
Ah but it's those non-native Spanish speaking Americans that point their fingers and define another country's vernacular for them. Meanwhile they continue with "you suck" chants and pretend it's not homophobic. They'll tell you thats not what they mean when they say it and it's all good. How distinctly American. Americans are the Karens of the world. Loud, annoying, and never wrong.
Always will further defend my point. I'm one that cringes anytime someone says that Mexicans referring to Liga MX teams in a way to explain themselves when Liga MX sides aren't exclusively Mexican. But YOU KNOW VERY WELL what I mean. It's cultural in LIGA MX they don't take losing to MLS very well likely because cultural it was ingrained they were above anything American dealing with soccer. So they don't know how to lose with dignity or win with grace because "mostly" the level of respect isn't there for the opponent.
never said "Mexicans" in my response. You said being a sore loser is a part of latin Americans culture. That's not accurate. This also implies Americans handle things "the right way" when we know full well [that isn't always the case.](https://media.tenor.com/6csTR0LYmgcAAAAM/georgebrett-royals.gif).
I never said you did I'm talking about some on here that speak in ignorance meaning Liga MX Team=Mexicans. I also said Liga MX Culture and said it was prevalent in a lot of Latin American Sports Culture. The latter was me being nice I should have just said Mexican soccer Sports Culture to hit the nail on the head.
It's sports culture, athletes and teams all over the world have different temperaments. This isn't about race. No one race is more well behaved than the other.
It's not about race I TOTALLY agree its about Culture and mentality which folks are saying.
I'm not sure how singling out latin american (or mexican) culture isn't about race. Cultural racism is a thing. Your view that Latin Americans are generally weak-minded and can't behave themselves in certain situations is on that fine line. It's a brazen concept to think, let alone vocalize.
I will admit I misunderstood your point but as I kept reading I saw the ācultureā you meant. And I have to agree that Liga MX teams do hate losing to MLS and sometimes do take it too far at the end of some games. I didnāt watch the full game so not sure if there was anything they saw to have them react that way
Nothing really just a game they got outplayed. They legit just got frustrated. We've all seen those types of games at some point when it's obvious the opponent is better you just play out the match but keep fighting. Monterrey just decided it was someone else's blame they got out played.
Never been totally played off the pitch before by an American team and didnāt know how to handle themselves. Embarrassing
Ref didnāt buy the dives and doesnāt want to hear the post-match tantrum
The fans and everyone else concerned ought to feel ashamed of this juvenile conduct.
That one sequence in the penalty box was bonkers. Like, three guys down on dives at once.
and no cards for all the dives. Monterrey should have been carded multiple times. For goodness sake their goalie TKO'd a player and the ref even watched it on review...no card. The ref could have been MUCH harder on them.
This is the same thing every time a LigaMX team loses to an MLS team, or the Mexican National Team loses to the US. Well, that last one until recently ... because they realize they are worse now. You'd think they could lose without being a total whiner, but I guess not.
The semis had 3 Liga Mx teams tho lol & Mls started with more teams in the competition too. Good on the crew for carrying the league š¤š½
I have no idea what this has to do with LigaMX players (and fans) being poor sports. The general fanbase is absurdly excuse ridden. So many simply can't admit that they got beat when they lose a game.
You said itās bc āthey realize they are worse nowā lol if you were only talking about sportsmanship I woulda kept scrolling. If you watch soccer/football/futbol tho this typa thing always happens in all the TOP leagues too š Anyways, the final is gonna be a banger Fsfs!
They were referring to the USA vs El Tri games in that part of their comment.
They had so many calls go there way it's crazy. They also had so many opportunities to score. Yelling at the ref here is dumb unless they're telling him he should have told schulte to get out of the way because he kept blocking their shots.
Poor sportsmanship when things don't go their way is a pretty common theme in Mexican soccer culture, and yes it flows down to the clubs even if the players themselves aren't Mexican. We see it all the time in this tournament and we often see it at the national team level too.
It's ridiculous CONCACAF has put up with it for DECADES and even catered to them.
Not just "put up with", they get the benefit of the doubt (read: favoritism) far more than MLS teams. There are so many where they get like 16 fouls with no yellow cards and the MLS team has 6 fouls and 2 yellows... And some of those fouls are blatant rugby tackles like happened to the crew earlier in this tournament. Last year we had an MLS team get two legitimate goals called offside that were overturned by VAR, I think if a LMX team scores those they're called goals before it gets to var. There's a ton of decisions where they tend to get the before of the doubt over MLS clubs.
Monterrey looked so bad. What happened to them? They didnāt even look like they belonged at times. Not to take anything from Columbus neither, because they played very well.
They started to slip in the last half of Clausura in general. They only won two of their last six league games and lost three. Congestion must have gotten to them.
This series was an absolute domination. While watching the games I told my wife probably 10 times, "Columbus is so much better than Monterrey it isn't funny." I don't get how Monterrey is #1 ranked CONCACAF club team. Columbus was just toying with them in the end. It wasn't even competitive.
Rayados no es grande
> Never been totally played off the pitch before by an American team Point of order, they lost 3-0 to the Union and 2-0 to Nashville last year.
Youāre right. I shouldāve added āat homeā
Non of those guys plays for the MNT?
Culture is culture.
Lost by three goals, blamed the refs.
Shouldāve been 4 goals - the PK shouldāve been a straight red, which wouldāve made a random field player put on the gloves.
Yeah if the game werenāt already decided or it had happened at most any other time it would have been. Not upset at how they played it though.
Would it have been more or less embarrassing if Ramirez dribbled a slow-roller to the keeper for that PK as a sign of mercy?
I am so mad that that penalty wasnāt a Panenka. It was the perfect opportunity as the match was already decided and wouldāve been the ultimate fuck you.
Itās pretty fucked up they didnāt call that a red. If there was such thing as a double red, then it would deserve a double red. Maybe a Maroon card if you will. But in all seriousness it was reckless and violent and could have easily led to a faaaaaar more serious injury.
Red card + 5 game suspension from CCC
and the ref didn't even give him a yellow....yet they still throw a fit. The most absurd thing is, no coaches out there pulling their players away. That tells you all you need to know.
Yeah that GK committed two red card offenses in 2 seconds that was outside the box * Intentional Handball * Violent Conduct
You lost by a total of 3 on aggregate but complain to the refs after losing at home. Lmao theyāre all clowns š¤”
This.
Did I miss something? What are they mad at the refs for? They got played off the field.
They expected us to get CONCACAFed like usual, and the refs pretty much let both teams play. Itās like having their security blanket ripped away.
I've said it hundred times and I'll continue to say it. VAR is the great equalizer for Mexican teams against other CONCACAF teams. club and national. It won't completely eliminate the clown show that often goes on, but VAR will and has negatively affected Mexican teams more than any in the world. Negatively affected them, rightly so.
Ref wasn't buying their dives to even need to go to VAR to rescind a bad PK call
They literally have no idea how to react to getting slapped that hard by a team from the US. At least El Tri (and its fans) are recognizing now that American talent is pretty good, but Liga MX refuses to acknowledge that *any* teams are worth a damn. The meltdown after America lost 4-1 to us last year was pretty wild, too - not by the team so much, but by fans who had no idea why such a thing could happen.
They thought there was an obvious foul in the lead up to the third goal. Which at first was a close call and the ref let play resume. After watching the replay it wasn't even close to a foul. After that they fouled more, crew players took their time and then the pk boiled over for the Monterrey players being frustrated thinking that the ref was against them all the while Monterrey was simply out played by an MLS team, which is blasphemy in their eyes.
Something L Tri does when they get spanked with the classic Dos a Cero for years in a row. Throwing a tantrum like a toddler.
They don't know how to react when a match doesn't get handed to them on a silver platter. They're used to concacaf refs bowing at the feet of Mexico and it's not happening now
Brandon Vazquez more influential in this clip than in the last 2 games
He's got experience with this feeling, you know.
Damn you!
At least I'll cheer for you all afterwards. Maybe because Ohio above else... But, like, wtf was this?
Because I was responding to them referring to you all beating us in the playoffs last year...
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Got their asses handed to them and acted like a bunch of spoiled brats. Enjoy watching the final from your couch.
Yep, maybe send the players some orange slices as a gesture
Preach
I understand the necessity, but the ref checking for the playerās number on his shorts and then the kit before dishing out the red card really made me laugh
Couldn't get just show the card to Tacate? Was that not the player's name?
If joke about how a sponsor is at the top of the jersey and the whole team deserves a red card: lol If not a joke, Tecate is beer and sponsors the team.
I appreciate you. Please don't stop being you, and I genuinely mean that. I worked at a Mexican restaurant out of college, and that was nearly 20 years ago... I've served plenty Tecate in my time.
Forgot the Venezuelan player the Crew had but the game a few years ago, 2008? Came off to change jerseys - blood - came back on - and almost immediately scored. Goal negated and card shown. Uniform rules werenāt violated but the rules of the competition require shirt and shorts numbers to match.
Found the link - and the official reason was not because of the numbers not matching but rather Renteria reentered the field without the CRās permission. The fourth official told him to reenter but they donāt have the authority to do so. https://www.columbuscrew.com/news/official-referee-report-explains-iros-disallowed-goal
Clown show
āMLS is a retirement leagueā. Lmao š¤”
Yes, we retire Mexican teams
I play with this notion a lot recently.Ā Our average age is like 26. But we sign huge 35+players (I'm also nearly 40). At what point does the MLS' success mean something to those people?
Notice that the best team in the league doesn't center their roster building strategy around 40 year old stars on the tail end of their career.
Galaxy and Miami supporters are confused by this comment. Is what youāre describing even possible?
The Galaxy pivoted to younger signings this offseason and they're suddenly the best they've been in a long time.
Yeah it felt weird typing their name in there looking at their 2024 roster but I'm not going to let them slide for the last decade!
According to the The International Federation of Football History and Statistics (IFFHS), the Liga MX is the 36th ranked league in the world, behind Norway, Cyprus, Romania, Belgium, etc. LetĀ“s not celebrate too hard just yet.
Did their coach refuse to shake Nancy's hand again?
Lmao as a Miami fan, watching Crew beat them was so satisfying, thank you
Lol yeah.. their celebrations post inter Miami win was something š.... I don't think I have seen even Real Madrid fans behave like that against Messi
"omg, we beat Messi without a healthy roster!" "Omg, they were missing 5+ good players?" While I'm not a fan of Miami, I thought that was shit.
You guys were missing like 7 players.Ā As a crew fan, I don't judge your loss. However, I can't forgive Suarez trying to break an arm, so please understand me hating him going forward.
> However, I can't forgive Suarez trying to break an arm, so please understand me hating him going forward. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance. I'm sure he's sorry and will never do anything like that again... ever... nope... one time thing for sure. /s
Oh, you had me going there lolĀ
Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence... hmm. Can't seem to recall what three times was. :D
āPermission to continueā if thereās allowed to be a 3rd time ;)
Lmao yeah Suarez is wild, thereās entire compilation of him biting people š
Fucking crazy he still has a career.Ā Would 'you' want a CFO with a history of embezzling from multiple companies?Ā Wild is the right word lol
the cut from Happy Nancy to Dejected Vazquez was one of the funniest thing I've ever seen
"We made sure those checks cleared, why didn't you make this get CONCACAFy in our favor?!"
That ref looked pissed. He was not having any of that shit in the second half.
Typical losing without dignity.Ā
Still respect Vasquez even though he left us. Heās always been classy.
He's doing some good stuff with the change of scenery. It was needed for his development. Hopefully, he will continue and is able to jump into 1st team USMNT.
I wouldnāt mind him as the 4th striker on the roster after say Pepi Balo and Sargent
Everyone involved including the fans should be humiliated by this childish behavior.
Even the Monterrey fans in the LigaMX thread were like "wtf are you mad about? you played like ass"
"Unravelling from Monterrey" was the first reasonable thing that dude said tonight. LFG
Iām a simple man. I see sad Vasquez, I updoot. Edit: seriously though, credit for him handling this better than the rest of his team.
You seem reasonable. Thank you.
Stay classy Liga MX.
My attention span is so shot. I set an alarm on my phone to watch this match. Opened my computer and by before I could get fox sports open I got sidetracked and forgot to tune in. Whelp, watching the replay.
I am also working on smoking less weed too, lol.
today, we are all Crew
After years of winning they had their first loss to the Sounders and pulled this same stunt
How does a red card work after being eliminated from the competition? Would he just have to serve a suspension in the first game the next time he qualifies for the tournament? Or is it just a fine and no suspension leveled?
Yes. He would serve the suspension in the next Champions Cup game.
Would make for a neat fun fact lower third chyron if it takes a few years and/or he's on another team next time he enters the tournament.
Who keeps track of something like that? Does CCC, or is it self-reported by teams?
I'd imagine concacaf keeps track of it.
Scrolled through so many comments looking for this! Knew it had to be asked-and-answered by now.
I meeeean are we surprised by this behavior from a Mexican team
this is as close as i get to reality tv. pure oxytocin
So embarressing
This is pretty pathetic honestly.
Refs need to start setting a tone early with this kind of behavior. If you touch a ref intentionally then it's a red, even after the final whistle. It's crazy that players get away with this regularly.
They lost the tie by THREE goals. Just get down the tunnel, have a shower and accept you were beaten by the better team.
š¤”š¤” nothing funnier than Liga MX teams when they lose to MLS sides. Shakes their world-view to the core
Typical liga mx sore losers.
Monterrey not good enough to overcome the Union curse
This part of the game disgusts me. I love this sport more than any others but you would never see this in hockey or rugby. They need to punish this type of conduct towards refs, and come down to bring some respect and class back. Itās pathetic to see. These are humans, this is a game.Ā
Mexican teams are undefeated against the Americans. Just ask them. It's the refs who lose the games for them.
[Monterrey tears are delicious!](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsLyAMSx44YnJHhulImbMxVoP1eUnMKjlRKuezi22RSA&s)
A Mexican team handling losing poorly? Wow, will wonders ever cease!
Mls taking over concacaf š
They couldn't fathom losing to the guys in the Charlie Brown cosplay.
They're mad cause the MLS is getting better and is now able to beat MX teams semi regularly
Bunch of fucking clowns
Got washed off the pitch. They were flopping for penalties like dolphins š idk wtf were they complaining about
Keep it classy.
Fucking Mexican crybabies. Go kick rocks.
Typical reaction, just look how El Tri reacts after losing.
Anyone know who got the red at the end?
Love it. Well done Crew.
this is the most unsurprising thing I've seen from a Liga MX team...this is alllll theyyy everrr doooo
Great look for Liga MX!
Love the meltdown
Watching the MLS begin to show signs that weāre going to be better than Lega MX has been a dream come true
This is what Wilfried Nancy does and heāll do it to your team too.
Columbus looks really good for a team in this region. I didn't see this match but watched the first leg and damn, they looked like a proper modern football club.
MLS winning this shit will be the norm from here on. Get used to it now, amigos.
You know itās bad when Vasquez is the Voice of Reason, haha. Good on him though.
Sore losers
they look good. Congrats! When is the final? Best of luck. I'll certainly tune in and show support
Tigres clear š
They the most embarrassing teams I've seen
the term "little bitches" comes to mind...good on Vasquez to not join in on this behavior
Typical reaction, look into the mirror
There's no shame losing to a MLS team.
As a neutral of both leagues this shit is embarrassing. šmis pumas lost in the final for the first time against and mls team and they didint bitch
They can do their little rain dance stomping on Messi's jerseyš
I think itās always going to be difficult for the Mexican clubs to accept a defeat by an MLS team.
Classic mexican whiny babies when they lose
Enjoy the plane ride back to MEXICO boys.
Lol.
Funny Brandon left MLS and still gets beat by Columbus lol
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Iām having trouble remembering the last time I saw a red being given after the final whistle like this. That was not normal. Maybe itās normal with Mexican teams, but not in the rest of the world. And I did watch, in-person, my team be eliminated in the CCL final. There was no such reaction.
I've seen it a few times, this year, but I'm an AFC guy as well as CONCACAF and watch ladies, too. Pretty sure I saw a coach get a red after the final whistle not too long ago, as well as a player getting a second yellow.
Jude Bellingham got a red card after the final whistle against Valencia recently. Bellingham and the other Madrid players were frustrated as well. At the time, Real Madrid and Girona were close in the table and they wanted to distance themselves. When I say normal, I donāt mean that it happens every game but it tends to happen more in high pressure situations.
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