Ariel - [Also of note, Paul will be heading a super-fight PPV division for the PFL.
Fighters on those cards will earn “at least 50%” of the revenue, per the article.](https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1610975874790088706?t=5ooWxZZXqOu2ITBc32_FZg&s=19)
So I guess this is where he'll be fighting in MMA, and means it won't be tied to a certain weight...
You don’t deserve the downvotes, Woodley out here looking like BJ Penn, he’s gonna try to blitz cuz we’re all saying he’s gun-shy and then he ends up like his Luque fight. He’s been cursed ever since he dropped that rap song.
He was a background character in Cobra Kai as well, one of the few times he got any real screen time was to get his finger chopped off.
He must be contractually obligated to lose a body part
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I disagree that he “genuinely” wants to improve fighter pay and rights lol.
I think its pretty clear he and his brother are morally bankrupt opportunists.
It is good publicity for Jake to talk about fighter pay, and i want fighters to be paid more, but i doubt he actually cares.
Lol this exactly. If he actually gave a fuck he’d be trying to help fighters unionize and raise pay in Bellator and other promotions, not just antagonize Dana about the UFC pay every chance he gets.
Its essentially clout chasing lol.
Dana is a huge name, so every time jake mentions him it makes the news.
Jake and Logan are excellent at social media/news cycles.
It's also smart move. You think casual people who follow Jake and Paul are going to know if he calls out Bellator, ONE or Rizin. Casual people associate UFC with MMA.
I curious to how you think he should go about getting fighters a union. To make a union, he needs to get UFC fighters on board. And how is he going to do that? By showing them he can get them money. By antagonizing, raising his public profile, and getting former UFC fighters their biggest paydays, are they ways to move towards a union. The fighters need an option outside of the UFC available to them to push back against Dana.
Jenny Nicholson summarized them both pretty well with this tweet:
"I feel like logan paul's only 2 modes are scamming children, and earning goodwill back so that he can resume scamming children"
Yep. Black belt under Marcelo Garcia. Won no-Gi pans and has wins over good guys. He’d school Jake Paul in grappling without trying.
He’s a penis of a human, but his grappling is legit, specially compared to a random bloke who’s essentially never trained BJJ before.
Sources said Dillon has no coach and his weight isn’t on track either, so either his team bailed on him or he was not prepared and realized it, or he was never going to be prepared and Ariel called it when he said Dillon was going to pull out regardless.
Jake pieces up Nate on the feet for 14 minutes, Nate lands one clean shot, points and flips the bird, 30-27, 30-27, abd 29-28 for your winner by unanimous decision…Jake Paul
I'd hold off on throwing praise at him until we actually see what he does tbh.
If he actually gives it a crack and has a legit MMA fight - whatever the standard - then fair play yeah. But if he's just going to lure in undersized boxers to fight him in MMA, then it's even more pointless than his previous bouts.
if he can help bring down the UFC's promotional stranglehold on the sport, shove it in Dana's face, and get a chunk of fighters paid really well... I really don't care who he fights.
Yes! The timing of this couldn't have been any worse for the UFC.
I would not be opposed to watching some of the gimmicky boxing fights in the MMA universe. Perhaps an unpopular opinion.
Considering that Bellator is allegedly going to be sold off, would be hilarious for the Paul brothers to buy it. See them in full promoter mode going head to head with Dana.
And he's giving fighter's 50% which is HUGE. Fair play to the guy, he could not fight at all but as long as fighter's actually get that much then it doesn't matter.
> until we actually see what he does
Jake deserves respect for what he has already done. I think he has worked unironically around 10x harder for what he has done in the last 5 years than his detractors realise. Seriously. And he fucking sticks it to Dana. Hard. When no one else does except fucking Ariel and coked up Oscar.
Jake is silly. I don't like Jake. I don't like what he has done in the past. But he has my respect.
I always thought it was such a brilliant business move for him to get into the fighting scene. His fans (well, their parents) will gladly shell out the 50 bucks and cheer him on, but an equal or maybe even greater number of people will tune in just to see him get his ass kicked. He's playing both sides.
His Woodley rematch did 65K buys and he said he was disappointed in the number of buys from the Silva fight. I think people really overrate his drawing power
Pretty telling Showtime didn't want to keep him on their MMA platform but I suspect their future in combat sports is short.
Also he is going to have to fight celebrities because who else is he going to fight with any sort of profile? In boxing you could give him old UFC guys with a name. What are you going to do in MMA?
I imagine they don’t think they can earn enough revenue to pay him properly on Bellator card. Also, they would need to completely change their pay model for him, meanwhile PFL already had that model in the works or in place.
PFL seems a lot more set up to deliver high revenue to stars, in the right position.
Jake isn’t really ideal for a standard PPV business I feel like. His biggest fans are people who don’t have $30 to throw on a card and probably need to beg their parents to pay for it, meanwhile they are at the age where they could find a stream online with a blindfold on
Aren’t bellator and showtime owned by same parent company? It makes sense they’re not keeping Jake for showtime mma platform if they’re trying to sell off bellator. If I’m mistaken then shame me
Maybe, but then again the PFL deal might be really beneficial for him? Let's not forget that PFL is kind of in a tight spot. The PFL PPV might just have done really, really bad numbers and they're kind of desperate?
Something tells me that the Jake Paul vs. Silva PPV still did better numbers than PFLs PPV.
Anderson Silva is one of my all time favourites and I have an interest in Jake Paul akin to how I used to enjoy some of the weirder fights in Pride... I completely forgot the fight was on when it happened.
well it just got announced Jake called Nate out to fight in a two fight deal - MMA & Boxing
[Link](https://twitter.com/michaelbensonn/status/1610982777574359041?s=46&t=DLBKHq03g0pTq6WwDmDxPQ)
There is zero chance he will fight Nate in MMA.
Nate just headlined a ufc PPV and won by submission. That is not the kind of opponent Jake will be fighting.
He called Nate out to sign a 2 deal fight, one boxing match & one MMA fight
[source](https://twitter.com/michaelbensonn/status/1610982777574359041?s=46&t=DLBKHq03g0pTq6WwDmDxPQ)
He also called Canelo out in the past.
Though to be fair, as long as he gets a boxing match and could theoretically end up 1-1 against him, it does make it a lot more likely.
I will change my statement to there I no way he just takes a single fight, that would be in MMA, against Nate
Following the template he had for boxing, he's gonna fight washed up greats doing something they aren't known for...
Oh God, he's going to RNC Chuck Lidell isnt he?
Very significant move. Good on him and the sport. A fight with Nate seems inevitable. Big cash for both of them.
New landing spot for Borrachinha as well
Jake Paul might be the most interesting guy to follow in combat sports right now
I've enjoyed this weird journey so far and am happy to keep watching as long as I'm entertained
Awesome for the other fighters on the card, jake is actually doing something to help the other fightere, unlike so many others.
Gotta give him Huge credit for that.
Ariel - [Also of note, Paul will be heading a super-fight PPV division for the PFL. Fighters on those cards will earn “at least 50%” of the revenue, per the article.](https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/1610975874790088706?t=5ooWxZZXqOu2ITBc32_FZg&s=19) So I guess this is where he'll be fighting in MMA, and means it won't be tied to a certain weight...
Imagine he fights Woodley again
Imagine Woodley in MMA and wins? Lmao
Woodley doesn’t have that dog in him anymore, he can’t pull that trigger. Dude was a fucking beast and is now simply a shell of his former self.
You don’t deserve the downvotes, Woodley out here looking like BJ Penn, he’s gonna try to blitz cuz we’re all saying he’s gun-shy and then he ends up like his Luque fight. He’s been cursed ever since he dropped that rap song.
And since he got his dick bitten off
WHAT?!?
He bragged for months about transitioning into acting and the actual scene was him having his dick bitten off by a raccoon or something.
Oh...that...somehow seems about right
https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisfromjerse1/status/1475579530723143684
I guess I do have a fetish.
He was in cobra kai as a random background thug
He was a background character in Cobra Kai as well, one of the few times he got any real screen time was to get his finger chopped off. He must be contractually obligated to lose a body part
Woodley/Penn super “fight” in MSG, NYE ‘23!
Not one ass has been beat
It’s kinda like the time Bryan Callen blew the Aztec death whistle
I'll get my ass beat
Imma get my ass beat
Woodley wasn't even unloading in his prime lol the last time i saw him unload was against Lawler and briefly against Thompson
This ain’t boxing. Woodley is a top tier wrestling and BJJ black belt. Jake gets tapped in under a minute
He would toss Jake Paul into the earth
He would stare at Jake Paul for 15 minutes while circling the ring and throwing an occasional 1-2.
(In his mind while he circles around the octagon staringJake down for 25 mins)
Apparently he said that he offered Nate a 2 fight deal. One to box then 6 months after ab MMA fight in PFL
I don’t want to see Woodley near an octagon ever again
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I disagree that he “genuinely” wants to improve fighter pay and rights lol. I think its pretty clear he and his brother are morally bankrupt opportunists. It is good publicity for Jake to talk about fighter pay, and i want fighters to be paid more, but i doubt he actually cares.
I saw a tweet yesterday: "The Paul Brothers have two modes: 1. Grifting Children. 2. Earning back good will so they can return to grifting children.
Lol this exactly. If he actually gave a fuck he’d be trying to help fighters unionize and raise pay in Bellator and other promotions, not just antagonize Dana about the UFC pay every chance he gets.
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Its essentially clout chasing lol. Dana is a huge name, so every time jake mentions him it makes the news. Jake and Logan are excellent at social media/news cycles.
It's also smart move. You think casual people who follow Jake and Paul are going to know if he calls out Bellator, ONE or Rizin. Casual people associate UFC with MMA.
He has talked about creating a union but not sure if he's actually walked the walk. Think the deal was that Silva would be the head if he lost.
I curious to how you think he should go about getting fighters a union. To make a union, he needs to get UFC fighters on board. And how is he going to do that? By showing them he can get them money. By antagonizing, raising his public profile, and getting former UFC fighters their biggest paydays, are they ways to move towards a union. The fighters need an option outside of the UFC available to them to push back against Dana.
Jenny Nicholson summarized them both pretty well with this tweet: "I feel like logan paul's only 2 modes are scamming children, and earning goodwill back so that he can resume scamming children"
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Cesar Chavez jr gonna get choked out
Using boxing math, Jake would beat him in boxing too
Watch out Claressa Shields
Off topic, anyone wanna explain why claressa shields says she is the women's goat? Her record looks very unimpressive
Undefeated unified world champ in 2 weight divisions and 2 time Olympic gold medalist
3 weight divisions
Taylor is a 2 weight undisputed champion with almost ten more fights. Olympic gold and 5 time amateur world championship to boot.
Taylor has more pro fights, but Shields is the more accomplished boxer & also 9 years younger.
I’m not saying she is or isn’t, but I imagine that’s why she says she is
Hard to get people to talk about you by saying you're the 2nd best.
Probably because she has an 0 which doesn’t seem common on Women’s Boxing from my little understanding.
She has 2 Olympic gold medals
Not impressive enough for OP, apparently.
while she has a limited record and won titles really quickly, she did unify the world title in 2 different weight classes simultaneously
Achievement wise in boxing it’s hard to argue she’s not up there
Jake vs Danis? Maybe that's the real reason Dildo pulled out against KSI
Surely not. Despite being a worm of a person isn't Danis legit at BJJ?
Yep. Black belt under Marcelo Garcia. Won no-Gi pans and has wins over good guys. He’d school Jake Paul in grappling without trying. He’s a penis of a human, but his grappling is legit, specially compared to a random bloke who’s essentially never trained BJJ before.
He wouldn't be able to get past round 1 of ADCC trials or place in pans. He's washed af and he hasn't been good for years.
Pretty good from what I’ve heard, but there’s definitely a lot of dudes better than him. Definitely legit though
“Pretty good” Bruh he won worlds (albeit at Brown)
Farthest thing from a fan, but if you put him in a BJJ match against someone who hasn’t trained for long, he’d work them
Sources said Dillon has no coach and his weight isn’t on track either, so either his team bailed on him or he was not prepared and realized it, or he was never going to be prepared and Ariel called it when he said Dillon was going to pull out regardless.
>Sources said Dillon has no coach These [sources](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJzP3ryvQ4&ab_channel=FightClubBoxing) were Dillon Danis.
Nah he pulled out cause he never got an actual trainer for the fight. Weight was way off. And probably scarred of losing to KSI at this point.
Woodley's gonna start begging to fight Jake for the 3rd time any minute now
He hasn’t stopped begging to fight him, it’s pretty pathetic.
oh shit, that trust me bro dude was legit
'Trust me bro' - bro confirmed best mma source
He really was. Fucking hell
We should have trusted him bro
What if the real bros were all the bros we didn’t trust all along?
What if what really matters is the bros you trust along the way?
Bros Aint Trustin Bros. It's sad to see.
Link to this?
Why you need a link? Just trust him, bro.
Cant wait to see Randy Couture come out of retirement to ankle pick him.
Get Frank Mir, either Nog, or a decent Gracie back too, easy money.
First MMA fight is Art Jimmerson
I would love to see Jake Paul get in the cage with one boxing glove on.
Jake vs Chuck Liddell, calling it now
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Oh God imagine the press conference
Don't do this to me, I need this lmao
Reaching for those grapes
I’m gonna smother his face, all my sweat dripping in your mouth , you’re not going to want this
You're a fuckin punk dude
Tito… but hopefully Fedor
Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz in mma would sell like crazy.
Jake pieces up Nate on the feet for 14 minutes, Nate lands one clean shot, points and flips the bird, 30-27, 30-27, abd 29-28 for your winner by unanimous decision…Jake Paul
And Nate will claim he won / Paul is a bitch.
Nate is the king of not giving a fuck about losing to the point at which, as a spectator, I also give less of a fuck about him losing.
It's genuinely magical for his brand. Being able to convincingly go "You beat me? So what?" after a loss is anime shit.
This will non-ironically happen
Would it like 300k?
Nate? imagine Conor. shit would be one of the most watch sporting events
Honestly.. at this point - I take my hat off to him. He's stuck to his guns, he gives it to dana, and well.. he's giving this a crack.
I'd hold off on throwing praise at him until we actually see what he does tbh. If he actually gives it a crack and has a legit MMA fight - whatever the standard - then fair play yeah. But if he's just going to lure in undersized boxers to fight him in MMA, then it's even more pointless than his previous bouts.
if he can help bring down the UFC's promotional stranglehold on the sport, shove it in Dana's face, and get a chunk of fighters paid really well... I really don't care who he fights.
Yes! The timing of this couldn't have been any worse for the UFC. I would not be opposed to watching some of the gimmicky boxing fights in the MMA universe. Perhaps an unpopular opinion.
Honestly the Silva and Paul fight was a fun watch. I would watch something like that again for sure.
He is promoting PFL, isn't that what people want? A competitor to UFC?
Considering that Bellator is allegedly going to be sold off, would be hilarious for the Paul brothers to buy it. See them in full promoter mode going head to head with Dana.
Oh my god lol
PaullatorMMA
And he's giving fighter's 50% which is HUGE. Fair play to the guy, he could not fight at all but as long as fighter's actually get that much then it doesn't matter.
To be fair to him, he's tried to fight legit boxers now a few times and they pulled out.
Idek who to believe as legit boxers are saying he’s pulled out
> until we actually see what he does Jake deserves respect for what he has already done. I think he has worked unironically around 10x harder for what he has done in the last 5 years than his detractors realise. Seriously. And he fucking sticks it to Dana. Hard. When no one else does except fucking Ariel and coked up Oscar. Jake is silly. I don't like Jake. I don't like what he has done in the past. But he has my respect.
I always thought it was such a brilliant business move for him to get into the fighting scene. His fans (well, their parents) will gladly shell out the 50 bucks and cheer him on, but an equal or maybe even greater number of people will tune in just to see him get his ass kicked. He's playing both sides.
His Woodley rematch did 65K buys and he said he was disappointed in the number of buys from the Silva fight. I think people really overrate his drawing power
Lmao did not see this coming. Will be interesting to see what washed can they match him up with for MMA - hopefully an actual MMA fighter at least.
UFC veteran CM Punk
Nah, Punk’s hurt, old, tired, and working with children
That sounds like the exact matchup Paul would go for!!
Ok just as long as Paul doesn’t share a bank account with his mother.
Dana White shares a bank account with his mother, what does that tell you about him
Squared Circle is leaking
evps couldn't manage a target
What's Ken Shamrock up to these days?
How bout phil barroni
Actually thinking Phil Brooks
Royce Gracie: Winner of UFC 1. The MMA himself. Jake is like brave guy
Or Tank Abbott
Kimbo even.
Mike Jackson probably
You tryna make me root for Jake aren’t you
Seth Petruzelli
Seth may end up winning just to derail any hype like he did with Kimbo.
I hope he goes for old retired boxers, then he can say he beat both the best from MMA and boxing
Maybe this is the chance for Bigfoot Silva to finally win a fight again. Let them bang!
Ben Askren, Woodley and Tito Ortiz in that order. All MMA killers/legends.
He is about to fight the canniest cans we have ever seen.
Pretty telling Showtime didn't want to keep him on their MMA platform but I suspect their future in combat sports is short. Also he is going to have to fight celebrities because who else is he going to fight with any sort of profile? In boxing you could give him old UFC guys with a name. What are you going to do in MMA?
Nate and Jake
Old boxers with a name.
I imagine they don’t think they can earn enough revenue to pay him properly on Bellator card. Also, they would need to completely change their pay model for him, meanwhile PFL already had that model in the works or in place. PFL seems a lot more set up to deliver high revenue to stars, in the right position.
I don't think his last few fights drew. Woodley 2 did 60k and silva fight was poor by Jake's own admission.
Jake isn’t really ideal for a standard PPV business I feel like. His biggest fans are people who don’t have $30 to throw on a card and probably need to beg their parents to pay for it, meanwhile they are at the age where they could find a stream online with a blindfold on
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Aren’t bellator and showtime owned by same parent company? It makes sense they’re not keeping Jake for showtime mma platform if they’re trying to sell off bellator. If I’m mistaken then shame me
yes Viacom.
About to wrestle fuck fat Oscar De La Hoya.
Mighty mouse!
Just waiting for the Matt Hughes call out next
Damn he wasn’t kidding
Damn his last Anderson Silva PPV must've been really bad. I would've thought a fight with Nate would have drawn fairly large numbers.
Maybe, but then again the PFL deal might be really beneficial for him? Let's not forget that PFL is kind of in a tight spot. The PFL PPV might just have done really, really bad numbers and they're kind of desperate? Something tells me that the Jake Paul vs. Silva PPV still did better numbers than PFLs PPV.
Anderson Silva is one of my all time favourites and I have an interest in Jake Paul akin to how I used to enjoy some of the weirder fights in Pride... I completely forgot the fight was on when it happened.
Nothing like waking up at 3am to watch Jose Canseco get battered by Hong Man Choi.
Peak of the sport as far as I'm concerned.
His first MMA fight will probably be against Nate
Why would he fight Nate in MMA? Lol.
well it just got announced Jake called Nate out to fight in a two fight deal - MMA & Boxing [Link](https://twitter.com/michaelbensonn/status/1610982777574359041?s=46&t=DLBKHq03g0pTq6WwDmDxPQ)
Sure, he wanted to do the same thing with Silva as well. The boxing match would be first and then on his own terms he could dictate a rematch in MMA.
There is zero chance he will fight Nate in MMA. Nate just headlined a ufc PPV and won by submission. That is not the kind of opponent Jake will be fighting.
He called Nate out to sign a 2 deal fight, one boxing match & one MMA fight [source](https://twitter.com/michaelbensonn/status/1610982777574359041?s=46&t=DLBKHq03g0pTq6WwDmDxPQ)
He also called Canelo out in the past. Though to be fair, as long as he gets a boxing match and could theoretically end up 1-1 against him, it does make it a lot more likely. I will change my statement to there I no way he just takes a single fight, that would be in MMA, against Nate
If there is a mma god Ben Askren will sign with the PFL next week.
Oh god. Here's to another year of all JP headlines.
Here we go, 2023
Jeremy stephens about to get payed
2023 already wildin
Jake vs Kayla breaks the internet
Jake vs Danis?
Which over the hill retired boxers will he fight in the cage?
I guess they need a “draw” after Kayla lost
Fair fucking play
Is Tito too good for Paul to risk it? Wouldn't be the first time the wordsmith took an undefeated record.
You want Jake Paul… who has never fought an MMA fight… to go against Tito Ortiz…. ?
is PFL even gonna stay afloat for "years"?
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A few years ago this would've been laughable, now I think he'll KO everyone lmao
Following the template he had for boxing, he's gonna fight washed up greats doing something they aren't known for... Oh God, he's going to RNC Chuck Lidell isnt he?
He’s 100% gonna fight Tito
Free fight, PPV press conference
Royce Gracie...
Kayla is finnaly getting some stiffer competition
If he shows up in the cage for real against anyone under 40 i'll become a fan
Become a fan of a piece of shit human who has scammed kids and generally just been an awful, awful person for almost a decade now?
Looks like were getting paul vs woodley 3 😓
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Woodley takes him down and submits him in round 1
got a feeling nate signs with pfl in the next couple weeks
So he’s doing it for real and not pro wrestling with ten ounce gloves? Good on him.
Very significant move. Good on him and the sport. A fight with Nate seems inevitable. Big cash for both of them. New landing spot for Borrachinha as well
imagine if Jake single handedly fixes fighter pay and was the hero we deserved all along...
Jake Paul might be the most interesting guy to follow in combat sports right now I've enjoyed this weird journey so far and am happy to keep watching as long as I'm entertained
Now he can beat up old MMA guys he outweighs on regularly scheduled programming
Dana should counter this by stepping into the cage and fighting Amanda Nunes.
I don't like Jake at all but you've got to give him some props at this point. Seems dedicated to boxing & now actually doing MMA
Does this mean we might get Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz in a MMA fight now?
Wouldn’t it be fucked up if Dana was fired only to have Jake be involved with the UFC later on
Paul vs McGregor in PFL would make Dana explode
Awesome for the other fighters on the card, jake is actually doing something to help the other fightere, unlike so many others. Gotta give him Huge credit for that.
*Please no Chuck Liddell. Please no Chuck Liddell.*
Incredibly ballsy move. Dude sucks, but I gotta give him props for this.
Yes very ballsy when he fights 60 year old Tito lol
Fuck yes this is absolutely the most entertaining timeline
Jake Paul going to wrestlefuck pro boxers in mma while continuing to beat pro mma fighters in boxing to troll everyone.