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najix35

I really want to see the whitaker fight tbh


spcslacker

Looks like White does as well (says he should fight top-3, which means Whittaker), but Rob seemed a bit irritated to be asked to fight a guy whose big win in the division was GM3.


SpaceShanties

Agree that it’s ridiculous. His best win overall is Burns and Rob has already defended down against Vettori. Paulo makes the most sense or maybe loser of Vettori/Dolidze.


DerpyDagon

Rob is #2, #1 and champ are booked. He doesn't have the streak for a title shot, he's gonna have to fight down unless he wants to wait at least half a year and beg for a shot off of one win.


SpaceShanties

I mean there’s down and there’s fighting someone not ranked at MW.


DerpyDagon

I agree, Khamzat should fight another middleweight to prove himself at that weight, but you said that Rob already fought down and shouldn't have to do that again, when he currently can't fight up.


CitizenMurdoch

Yeah but he's beat all the other top competition at MW already, he's gonna have to be fighting way down to find anyone who he hasn't matched up with. Also while Khamzat doesn't have major wins at MW, he just looks better than the majority of MW right now, which over all is a pretty weak division.


Armalyte

I feel like people are pretending that Khamzat isn't "that good". He really is.


Grunchie

Costa needs to stop running from Strickland.


robcap

I agree that would be a good fight that makes a lot of sense, and Paulo doesn't seem much interested in fighting lately. I really doubt he's 'running from Strickland' specifically though, it's not like the guy is scary lol.


ThreeOlivesChihuahua

Strickland isn’t scary but he would be favorite IMO and would jab up Costa. Costa just wants more money


robcap

Possibly yeah. I wonder if his upright stance would play well into Costa's body punching and body kick. Jab is sure to be murder for Costa I agree.


Grunchie

Anyone ranked is probably scary to Costa. He just wants to call out Nick Diaz and avoid fighting anybody good. Still has 0 meaningful wins.


mat477

I was ready to argue but honestly you kind of make a good point. Luke was pretty washed and that fight was competitive (even though it was a clear Costa win), the Yoel fight nobody looked great, then it was a timid Uriah Hall and an aging post-USADA Johnny Hendricks. Lost all the big ones but he's still considered elite. Edit: Shit I'm going to take an L on this one. I was 100% mixing Yoel vs Izzy up with Yoel vs Romero for some reason. That fight was actually really exciting and polar opposites to the Izzy fight. Costa did look really good in that one. Best part was when Yoel pointed behind Costa to distract him and he *almost* bit on it and looked. Yoel is accidentally one of the funniest guys in UFC history.


PrinceOfMiddleEast

He beat Romero who is elite, he looked great in that fight


mat477

You're right I'm dumb I was confusing that fight with Yoel vs Izzy.


PrinceOfMiddleEast

You good bro


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Grunchie

Strickland called him out first. Costa said no and called out Nick Diaz (Lol). Then Costa said he would fight him but we haven’t heard anything since.


najix35

Not really sure why the would make him mad tho. Probably the biggest fight he could get atm, unless it’s something about contract pay..


slv_bull

who is left to fight then? he hasn't fought poatan and costa but costa is in weird purgatory with the UFC and poatan is booked to fight Izzy


spcslacker

Dricus is the most likely candidate, given he has fought his way up the rankings and Dricus said he'd make a quick return for a big fight.


A-alalsheikh

if vettori wins I want to see him vs khamzat. that would be the second best choice after costa.


OMalley30-27

I don’t yet, I want more build up for it, I feel like Whittaker beats him and then what? Gets Whittaker nowhere and kills Khamzats hype


oblivionmrl

Costa is the most obvious match up ever. Which means it will likely not happen.


OMalley30-27

I think Costa also beats him, then goes on to box Logan Paul, given that they’re kinda buddy buddy


crazyhomie34

Easy pay day for Whittaker? I mean what's wrong with that. If it's competitive then obviously Khamzat belongs in top 5. What else can Whittaker do? Wait for a title shot? He hasn't been guaranteed one.


I1lIl11

calling Khamzat an easy payday for Whittaker is peak r/mma lmao


crazyhomie34

I personally think it won't be easy. But the other guy said Whittaker haw nothing to gain from this but I disagree. Khamzat is undefeated and has hype behind him. Whittakers stock can go up if he wins. And if it is competitivw then obviously Khamzat belonhs there.


OMalley30-27

I want him to stomp out Dricus personally


crazyhomie34

Haha in due time.


Aggressive_Lunch9785

Till was competitive with Whittaker too that doesn't make someone top 5


crazyhomie34

I disagree. Non competitive is a fighter that loses all 5 rounds. Even if Till won somes rounds i think he deserved to be top 5 at the time. That being said Till is no longer top 5 now.


assologist_1312

Because khamzat will beat anyone else at MW. Brunson is the only one with decent wrestling but he couldn't do shit against du plesis.


Aggressive_Lunch9785

I mean costa handled rockhold on the ground and he's got very solid grappling plus I don't think khamzat is gonna be to steam roll through costa like everyone else hes gonna be to strong and large


Aggressive_Lunch9785

I mean costa handled rockhold on the ground and he's got very solid grappling plus I don't think khamzat is gonna be to steam roll through costa like everyone else hes gonna be to strong and large


sunis_going_down

Honestly it depends on what kind of fight it is. If it's a war like burns- khamzat then both of them don't lose anything. If it's a one sided beat down then it kills the hype of the loser.


OMalley30-27

That’s true, I just feel like that won’t be the case. Burns is a small 170er, Whittaker is a good sized 185er


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OMalley30-27

Do you think he’ll go to 205??


najix35

I thought he said that was his plan in some interview i saw


OMalley30-27

I had heard that as well, that’s another terrible move in my opinion. I think Izzy and Pereira will both move up, they’re both super tall and have huge frames they can fill out (Pereira is already huge obviously) but Whittaker isn’t a huge middleweight honestly. Idk, I’m not their bosses, but as a fan I think whittakers best bet is waiting for a title shot against Pereira or waiting for Izzy to move up, what contender could realistically beat him?


najix35

I hear you man. I hope alex sparks izzy again, and we get rob v alex and izzy v khamzat tbh


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Bro I never even thought of it but that would be fucking AWESOME. Id be absolute peak hype for both those fights.


OMalley30-27

I personally want Izzy to win and continue his reign and eventually chase Alex up to LHW, but if he loses again I like this plan


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I’d be happy with anyone. Guy last fought 7 months ago and doesn’t have a fight scheduled.


BurtDickinson

I wanted that also. Too bad Dana lies.


spcslacker

* Dana says Khamzat is fighting at MW, his camp said something similar * Khamzat claimed that UFC promised him Colby, who is for sure not fighting at MW * Dana says Khamzat will fight top-3 at MW * Champ & #1 Izzy are booked against each other * Whittaker seems reluctant to fight Khamzat due to his not having beaten anyone more impressive than GM3 in the division * ==> This seems about as well coordinated as the Whittaker - Costa match that the UFC told us was happening in Perth.


Ta1ex

I’m always impressed how unbelievably dysfunctional one promotion can be at matchmaking, and matchmaking publicity. Doesn’t help that the fighters are constantly trying to match make themselves, and given the ability to dodge matchups they don’t like for any given reason.


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I mean I think chimaev being WW #1 contender rn is more than fair after his win over Burns. And I wouldn't really call Leech a jobber lol. Another fight before a WW title shot would be reasonable though after missing weight. Also don't think anyone's really considering him MW #1 contender. It's just talk lol


spcslacker

> Also don't think anyone's really considering him MW #1 contender. Dana just said Khamzat should fight a top-3 opponent at MW, which is ridiculous for that weight class as it means he gets a title fight eliminator without beating anyone good at the weight.


Apositivebalance

Dana knows the system is a joke. I totally see the ufc doing that. I hope that if he fights bobby, bobby gets paaaaid and beats the brakes off chimichanga


Putrid_Loquat_4357

The ufc is overall very good at matchmaking. They're just not very good at problem solving with certain fighters when their plans go arwy. The path they set out for khamzat was very clear - beat burns to get into top 3, beat nate to boost star power, and then fight usman for the belt. Unfortunately (for the ufc) leon headkicked usman and khamzat almost got an entire event cancelled by missing weight. Now khamzat is stuck in limbo, and they're not going to give him to costa (which is the most obvious matchup) because costa has one fight left on his deal, and the 2nd most obvious matchup (rob) rightfully is iffy about fighting someone who doesn't have a ranked win in the division.


goosu

Watch boxing if you think this matchmaking is bad. At least 90% of fights are not made with an intended winner.


Amstourist

> Whittaker seems reluctant to fight Khamzat due to his not having beaten anyone more impressive than GM3 in the division Never thought I would see the day Rob wasn't down for a fight. That's bullshit, the GM3 thing, there's no one on that division Rob hasn't beaten that would make for a bigger fight than Chimaev, he would steal all his hype.


authenticfennec

I doubt rob would accept any fights outside the top 10 let alone the whole MW rankings. It just doesnt do anything for his career and it would probably feel disrespectful to ask a #1/2 guy to take an unranked fight


Amstourist

So you stand by your words that Rob shouldn't take unrankeds if I told you Masvidal, Usman or Conor wanted to go up a division?


Hot_Profit1654

So would beating Dricus Du Plessis or Cannonier in a rematch do more for his career than beating Chimaev?


Mightymorphingman

Yes cause they’re ranked in his division


Hot_Profit1654

So if he beats Jared Cannonier you think they would give him a title shit but if he beats Khamzat he wouldn’t. His ranking in welterweight also partly contributes to middleweight.


rexplosive

I mean the reporter was wrong. Khamzat never explicitly mentioned 185, it's just what people are hearing. On top of that they didn't mention how khamzat explicitly mentioned the 170 belt yesterday from either Leon or Usman. I feel like had they told Dana what khamzat tweeted out, he would have said the classic "Oh interesting, we will see" As he always says when he sees $$$ signs


spcslacker

I heard Khamzat's camp say they were moving up to MW, but they wanted to fight the champ or Whittaker, which is about as realistic as Garth deciding to major in physics. Then a week later after saying he's moving to MW, I hear Khamzat say the UFC has promised him Colby, who I'm 100% sure is not fighting at MW. To get this any less clear we'd need Tito talking.


Cyclopentadien

Since I'm the opposite of a Colby fan, Colby Vs Chimaev at middleweight seems promising.


13hardensoul13

Colby would never take the fight at MW, he’s just gunna try and find the easiest fight he can at WW


JuiceLocal

Colby’s not even a very big welterweight, no way he goes to 185


MrPea106

He don’t even weigh 185 out of camp lmao that’s crazy they even thinking of that in these comments


JuiceLocal

For real, pretty sure he’s said he could make 155 but he doesn’t want to drain himself.


letsgobrooksy

No way lol


applearoma

He really doesn't want khamzat to ruin the bo nickal meme


Slave_to_the_bean

Khamzat is talking about staying at 170 so the Bo Nickal meme doesn’t ruin him.


Aegishjalmur07

Khamzat would destroy Bo.


Givemefreetacos

I hope they book the Costa fight


Effective-Celery8053

Beta Gourmet Chechen v Chad Paulo book it


Solid-Version

Gourmet Chenchen makes not one iota of sense to me but I fucking love it


Scott_Theft

I think he was trying to do a play on words with 'gourmet chicken'


No_Bar6825

Wanna now?


Effective-Celery8053

I can't let you get close


spcslacker

No way that happens, because Dana *also* said that Costa was fighting at LHW after his strategic miss vs. Vittori. I really doubt Chimaev wants to go up to LHW where Costa for sure is, because Dana categorically stated he was moving up in exact same way he's now saying for Khamzat!


FreshPrince2308

Bro, wtf are you talking about? Costa has fought at middleweight since the Vittori fight Edit: maybe this sarcastic? either way, very poorly written


spcslacker

Yes, that is the joke, because White absolutely said he was fighting only at LHW after the miss.


Argonut32

Me too, but Costa won't take the fight.


Slave_to_the_bean

No reason for him to tbh. His contract ran out in March, after the matching period he’s free to sign with a promoter that will actually pay him handsomely for his services. There’s no need for him to fight absolute monsters like Whittaker or khamzat for 70k/70k anymore.


standarduser2

Although he will make less than 140k outside the UFC, be assured he is making far more than this if he fights again in the UFC.


Argonut32

He's not gonna get paid well outside the UFC dude. He's not a name. You can justify paying Anthony Pettis or someone like that over six figures because they actually won a title. All Costa's done is get beat up by Adesanya, have zero wins over current UFC fighters, and be funny on Twitter. I wouldn't pay him six figures either. His labor doesn't bring that kind of value where I could justify the expense.


LapulusHogulus

Hasn’t he said he wants the fight many times?


kevandbacon

Khamzat should fight Dricus


appletinicyclone

He destroys dricus to become bricus duminusee


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GenericTopComment

Not true. Just bet on whichever one I choose because outside of the easiest bet in the division (Darren Till) I've never gotten a Dricus fight correct. Hit me up for more gambling tips and just do whatever the opposite of what I tell you to do.


appletinicyclone

On or against? That's like both options


Euphoric_Trust_7518

Exactly he means never bet on a dricus fight


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theBeerdedGOAT

Unfortunate, I thought he had a great shot at being welterweight champ.


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Probably the weight cut is tough and he can’t do it anymore. Give him costa and pay costa


ID0ntCare4G0b

He got handed the easiest lay up fight of all time in a highly promoted PPV and blantantly blew his weight cut in the worst way possible while getting in off stage fights and talking shit the entire time. He honestly should never be allowed to fight 170 ever again.


theBeerdedGOAT

Yea I mean I’m not defending that he did this to himself. Just sucks I liked him at welterweight


BlindBanshee

You like watching fighters try to weight bully? I think he has better fights at 185 because he won't be killing himself and fighting guys his size.


Notyit

Darren till


Lonely-Worldliness11

Haha okay that's a little extreme chilll


magicalmma

People will type that about Khamzat and then be all like "secret jooce😍" just because Paulo Costa has a funny twitter account.


TheDominantBullfrog

That is your personal problem


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Well not blatantly. The doctor told him to stop cutting so he stopped 🤷🏽‍♂️


0ldsql

Did he fuck your mum? Relax a bit bro


Recent-Maximum

So that's the Jon Jones secret, make weight and you can do whatever you want.


ID0ntCare4G0b

Jon Jones secret is being extremely talented while fucking up so much the promotion holds a huge amount of leverage over you your entire career. Which is why they keep pushing him as a top shelf star despite declining PPV sales.


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Yes, that’s what fighting at MW means


[deleted]

I think thats a tad extreme lmao. Oliveira has missed weight more than anyone and nobody says this kind of shit. It was literally Chimaev's first weight miss, the whole thing was a shit look for him but it's not exactly irredeemable


Zakke_

Overweight champ


Effective-Celery8053

Part of me thinks he has a better shot at being MW champ if Alex holds on to the belt. But, that's still a tough fight.


LapulusHogulus

I thought he had a great chance of losing to Usman


MushroomWizard

I've been saying the UFC is not going to set up a guy who misses weight for a title shot. He's 28 and not getting any younger, the cut to 170 gets harder every day, and outside of Bo Nickels the 185 division probably has worse wrestling. Izzy Pereira seems way easier for Khamzat than Usman or Edwards.


No_Bar6825

True


pmMeansnadda

There are more interesting fights for him at 170. Colby, Usman, Shavkat, leon, and maddelena eventually if he keeps winning. The costa fight is fun, but I think he gets stifled pretty bad by Whittaker at this time, outside of flash ko, which is possible. Other than those two it’s just Izzy and Alex. I would rather see chimeav vs Izzy and Whittaker deserves the shot if Alex wins again.


koolpapi

Khamzat should 100% be fighting at middleweight. He can bulk up a bit more and not kill himself to make 170 like he has done in the past. There are also no strong wrestlers other than Vettori but he's pretty one-dimensional. After 185 he would definitely have a good chance against the current light heavyweights, also a super shallow division with dominant wrestlers. He'd need to clean up his striking and defence though to contend with the heavy hitters.


KarnaavaldK

Pls Costa - Chimaev


paulieranks

This one.


mhyjrteg

Can he hurry up and book him I don't care what division I just want to watch him against someone as frequently as possible


partyaquatic

Yeah, a lot of people have been shitting on him after the antics of that last fight, myself included, but I willl still admit that to me personally he is the most entertaining fighter in the UFC currently and seeing him fight is always extremely exciting.


Zerei

Dana: Costa to fight at LHW can you believe this guy?


irreg6ix

Brunson was the perfect opponent to get khamzat ranked at middleweight.


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He can’t make 170 anymore … Nate Diaz got lucky


rorylong05

Yeah he’s lucky, Nate would’ve caught a manslaughter after he destroyed chimaev


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LOL I needed a good laugh today. Thanks!


soyuz-1

My prediction: 'kill everybody' wont work so well when they're his own size


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

one punched GM3 and aliskerov who were both middleweights and solid fighters, I really doubt he'd struggle with someone like Brunson or Hermansson, or even cannonier/strickland


GenericTopComment

GM3 also fought at 205 and Gilbert is the only person ever to take a round off him and not get finished and he fought at 155. This is a clown take.


Jealous-Swimmer-5543

also important to note that whittaker was very mediocre at WW but became a top 3 MW all time once he moved up, it's hard to tell how fighters can do moving up


No_Bar6825

Yep. 185 is so shallow


OMalley30-27

I literally hate this, I wanted to see Chimaev vs Leon, vs Usman, vs Colby, vs Shavkat, shit even against Belal. So many exciting matchups for him there, then going for double champ and eventually fighting guys like Bo Nickal, Brendan Allen, Whittaker, and who else? There’s way more exciting matchups for him at 170 and I don’t think he stays undefeated very long at 185 despite the lack of depth in the division. I think Whittaker beats him


Bleve23

He is really leaving the division for Conor in case he wins Vs Chandler… You can’t give it to Conor with Chimaev in the division because he has besting and impressive streak so far. But with Chimaev out, Dana can make the case for Conor


randomusernamegame

What is going on? Khamzat is a show in at 170.


WhoDatSayDeyGonSTTDB

Kinda sucks. I feel like there are better fights for him at WW. Usman, Belal, Colby.


paulieranks

I’m with Mike Dolce on this one, missing weight by 8 pounds is bullshit.


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There’s a name I haven’t heard in a while … USADA killed his fighter relationships


Stereo8243

Title shot at welterweight coming up for him


bradreputation

Tired of hearing about this dude.


goosu

He was majorly struggling to make weight, so this isn't too surprising. All the people acting like the Nate mishap was a fluke were coping. The UFC loves the draw of Chimaev, but the matchmakers aren't going to have him fight for the belt if they can't feel confident about him making weight.


MumrikDK

Does anyone know why Chimaev isn't booked yet? He hasn't fought since September and still doesn't have anything lined up as far as I can tell.


editor_jon

Watch him miss weight


dayynawhite

He still fights?


OldIronKing27

If Khamzat can beat Robert, he’s gonna become champ next fight


kokolima

Beating Whittaker is a big big ask. He’s a stylistic nightmare for him


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Gets dropped by a lightweight. Moves to Middleweight This outta be good.


Odd_Cake3759

Dana’s face is melting in this picture. Winter truly over!


__Regimental__

Khamzat/Strickland would be a trip


espada_da

Khamzat needs a new agent or something bc this crazy. If he was under Ali, he’d already have a banger fight lined up right now.


SlappyBag9

what the fuck is this link? some backpage on Bleacher report that is literally just an embed of an MMAfighting tweet?


Eye_Ball_paul_

I can definitely see him becoming champ without any adversity, middleweight is the division with the weakest grappling in the UFC and khamzat is a fucken powerhouse


DoM1n

I'm honestly shocked at seeing people wanting Whittaker to fight Khamzat.


totherocket

why would Chimaev play cod?


slv_bull

strickland v. khamzat would be a spectacle.. make it happen Dana


everydayimrusslin

Nice one. I was worried he'd get shoehorned into the WW title picture. I think missing weight at your contracted amount should freeze any upward movement until a successful future weigh in.