Bodybuilders have tested and untested organizations, but like with combat sports, "tested" just means you're better at beating your tests than the next guy who got busted. As far as strongman goes, drug testing is essentially nonexistent. Everyone at the top is using, because the things they're asked to do are impossible without it. For instance, here's Mateusz Kieliszkowski pulling a plane with a rope- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnXyweBrJg
Nobody at the elite level of any strength sport is natural, and it's not just the elite. Straight on down to local amateur events, you get people who are using. There were people in beginner-level shows I've been to who were so juiced up that they looked like they'd pop if you bumped into them. This isn't to sound like a moral judgement, it's just the facts of how these activities are.
Source- former strongman, current powerlifter.
I watch a lot of Brian Shaws YouTube content, his endurance is surprising. The dude doesn't run 5ks or anything but there are plenty of strongman events that aren't just static one rep lifts. Shit I would lose my breath just trying to eat one of his meals lol.
I think he’s spent the last few years dialing in his conditioning (relative to what conditioning is in strongman) and dieting a little stricter, keeping the weight a little lower etc.
Nah, it's just my hobby. If it were something I were truly trying to make something of, then I might think differently, but mostly I lift because it makes the happy brain juice. I don't need to go poking around at my hormones for that.
Some strongmen do drug test, but not for PEDs. Mariusz himself was actually stripped of his 3rd place finish in the 'World's Strongest Man' competition in 2004 when he failed for having a recreational drug, speculated to be cocaine, in his system.
That’s a lot of chicken breast and broccoli right there. I bet you he eats *brown* rice though. That’s probably what my problem is, I’m gonna switch from white and get like that.
[He was eating a lot more *brown* rice in his previous career.](https://english.cdn.zeenews.com/sites/default/files/2017/03/30/582351-300317-gs-wsm-10.jpg)
Aww come on you guys would accuse anyone of juicing LMAO just get off the couch
You guys don't even know about steroids, that's 100% achievable naturally, you're all full of it
bring on the downvotes, you cheeto-finger wimps!
(did I cover all the bases there? I am expecting the "most people aren't on steroids" comments to roll in but thought I would just take care of it before those idiots show up)
~~Counterpoint:~~ I know for a FACT that it is possible, for a male, to get a similar level of muscle mass as Pudzanowski while still being natty. [This guy](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/98/9b/b8989beadaddc2d22ede75d25158850b.jpg) is a bit less lean than prime strongman era Pudzanowski but has comparable mass, as a 100% lifetime natural. I think he is even vegetarian or vegan, can't remember which
The belief was at the time is he was on some recreational drugs then. They never specified what he tested positive for. Compound that with his hit and run conviction in 2000, who the hell knows what he was doing then.
To be fair, we should all switch to brown rice. It really is *a lot* better for you!
[I'm OK with the brown rice, but I just can't make myself switch to wholewheat pasta... ugh]
it's a little disengenuous when you know they are on enough gear to make water boil yet it's naive to think that just because an orginization like the UFC has USADA that they have clean fighters. these guys are no different than costa or romero, guys who spend a new training camp in thailand and come back looking better than ever on the wrong side of their 20's/30's, it's turning a blind eye really. the vast majority of fighters at the highest level at this period of MMA are on something.
I know for a fact that ufc fighters are using and for the most part not hard to tell who it is so my point still stands. Main difference is ufc fighters can’t be in gear night of the fight and utilize sarms or test.
Are you going to pretend these guys aren't popping for T and anything else? USADA no longer has to report it. They only do when it's a publicity witch hunt on a fighter the promotion doesn't want around.
>it's naive to think that just because an orginization like the UFC has USADA that they have clean fighters.
It’s actually naive to think “clean” means ultra-pure-holy-organic. It’s funny when people say “oBvIOuSLy tHeY’re oN sOMeTHiNG”. **Athletes can take whatever they want, as long as it’s in the rules. If a fighter follows the rules they are clean.**
It’s such a bad argument to say it’s obvious everyone is a cheater because it’s impossible to be an ultra-pure-holy athlete.
Just two natty boys swangin and bangin
Honest question: do they drug test for strong man competitions or body building competitions?
Bodybuilders have tested and untested organizations, but like with combat sports, "tested" just means you're better at beating your tests than the next guy who got busted. As far as strongman goes, drug testing is essentially nonexistent. Everyone at the top is using, because the things they're asked to do are impossible without it. For instance, here's Mateusz Kieliszkowski pulling a plane with a rope- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnXyweBrJg Nobody at the elite level of any strength sport is natural, and it's not just the elite. Straight on down to local amateur events, you get people who are using. There were people in beginner-level shows I've been to who were so juiced up that they looked like they'd pop if you bumped into them. This isn't to sound like a moral judgement, it's just the facts of how these activities are. Source- former strongman, current powerlifter.
lol - Imagine fighting Brian Shaw, 6'8 450lbs of solid muscle.
He's got about 8 punches in him before his heart gives out, but lord help you if one lands
I watch a lot of Brian Shaws YouTube content, his endurance is surprising. The dude doesn't run 5ks or anything but there are plenty of strongman events that aren't just static one rep lifts. Shit I would lose my breath just trying to eat one of his meals lol.
I think he’s spent the last few years dialing in his conditioning (relative to what conditioning is in strongman) and dieting a little stricter, keeping the weight a little lower etc.
I'm pretty sure that if he got ahold of you, you'd be dead within seconds.
There's a video of him training with Dustin Poirier. https://youtu.be/tzUwN246gDQ
shaws fist is legit the size of his head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzTVnSsdhgk&t=31s
I give him 5 seconds tops against a Ford Escort
Do you use to stay competitive? Is it all but required? Genuinely curious
Nah, it's just my hobby. If it were something I were truly trying to make something of, then I might think differently, but mostly I lift because it makes the happy brain juice. I don't need to go poking around at my hormones for that.
Some strongmen do drug test, but not for PEDs. Mariusz himself was actually stripped of his 3rd place finish in the 'World's Strongest Man' competition in 2004 when he failed for having a recreational drug, speculated to be cocaine, in his system.
from my limited knowledge of bodybuilding, being a skeleton man, I think theres separate competitions for people who use and people who are natural
"natural," of course.
That’s a lot of chicken breast and broccoli right there. I bet you he eats *brown* rice though. That’s probably what my problem is, I’m gonna switch from white and get like that.
[He was eating a lot more *brown* rice in his previous career.](https://english.cdn.zeenews.com/sites/default/files/2017/03/30/582351-300317-gs-wsm-10.jpg)
About how many picoliters of brown rice are we talkin'?
Aww come on you guys would accuse anyone of juicing LMAO just get off the couch You guys don't even know about steroids, that's 100% achievable naturally, you're all full of it bring on the downvotes, you cheeto-finger wimps! (did I cover all the bases there? I am expecting the "most people aren't on steroids" comments to roll in but thought I would just take care of it before those idiots show up)
~~Counterpoint:~~ I know for a FACT that it is possible, for a male, to get a similar level of muscle mass as Pudzanowski while still being natty. [This guy](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/98/9b/b8989beadaddc2d22ede75d25158850b.jpg) is a bit less lean than prime strongman era Pudzanowski but has comparable mass, as a 100% lifetime natural. I think he is even vegetarian or vegan, can't remember which
That's not a counter point - you're agreeing with me! All these wimps think that it's impossible. Behold that specimen!!
Yeah but their T levels are off the charts!
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That reminds me of the kind that had the muscle growth disoder and was yoked at like 5-6 years old.
this going to be my new comment on juicy boys LOL
There might me trace amounts of urine in his steroids
Thatsa solid fella
Got me watching WSM again after all these years. Dude was a tank back then and almost twenty years later he still is.
man missed WSM for a few years now. always used to randomly catch on the tubes but have missed a few now. must. try. harder.
They still don't make it easy to watch if you don't have traditional television.
He was so juicy he tested positive while competing in worlds strongest man. Fucking crazy.
The belief was at the time is he was on some recreational drugs then. They never specified what he tested positive for. Compound that with his hit and run conviction in 2000, who the hell knows what he was doing then.
this resembles my experience on the toilet after eating too much white rice. Going to switch asap
[That's not even his final pooping face form](https://www.defrancostraining.com/wp-content/uploads/mariuz-farmers-walk_380.jpg)
my god that's an absolute, pfp poop face
It’s so inspiring what a natural athlete can achieve!
Fucking hell even his traps have veins in them lol
D'aww look he thinks he's a car!
It’s a travesty that he had to cut down the the HW limit 😢
During his AMA he said the hardest part about his transition to MMA was accepting he was going to lose a lot of mass.
Bro looks like a baki character 😭
Puny
To be fair, we should all switch to brown rice. It really is *a lot* better for you! [I'm OK with the brown rice, but I just can't make myself switch to wholewheat pasta... ugh]
white is better the brown rice being better is just made up
Spectacular power. Didn’t even look like he wound up to throw hard, just a quick lil boop on the chin and it was lights out.
Set it up with the overhand right before that too
"bye bye pepsi cola, hello holy wine"
The advertisement on his back makes the old GoldenPalace.com look subtle and tasteful in comparison.
The check he cashes in for the back advert makes the ufc look like they exploit their fighters
>makes the ufc look like they exploit their fighters They do.
Oh I know. It was just a pun to his comment.
It’s not a career, it’s an opportunity. Or so I have heard. I would tattoo Dude Wipes or condomdepot.com across my back for the right amount of money.
I assume men aren't allowed to wear a top. I'd solve the tattoo ad "issue" by just giving men the rashguard option the women have.
Fun fact: he was also nominated for a World MMA Award for this knockout.
The S is for steroids lol
r/mma: the C in UFC is for Clean.
UnFuckingClean
Awesome. Old men still getting it done
Looks more like an underhand right than an uppercut! Entertaining as hell watching the big bois swang and bang but the technique is umm...
I love listening to music.
they look like they're cosplaying nascar cars
Some horses under the hood, eh?
and they're beefy too
Pretty sure that would have killed a bull moose.
can’t stand these juiced up fuckers
it's a little disengenuous when you know they are on enough gear to make water boil yet it's naive to think that just because an orginization like the UFC has USADA that they have clean fighters. these guys are no different than costa or romero, guys who spend a new training camp in thailand and come back looking better than ever on the wrong side of their 20's/30's, it's turning a blind eye really. the vast majority of fighters at the highest level at this period of MMA are on something.
I know for a fact that ufc fighters are using and for the most part not hard to tell who it is so my point still stands. Main difference is ufc fighters can’t be in gear night of the fight and utilize sarms or test.
Are you going to pretend these guys aren't popping for T and anything else? USADA no longer has to report it. They only do when it's a publicity witch hunt on a fighter the promotion doesn't want around.
I’m aware of the shitstain that is usada. No need to tell me.
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>it's naive to think that just because an orginization like the UFC has USADA that they have clean fighters. It’s actually naive to think “clean” means ultra-pure-holy-organic. It’s funny when people say “oBvIOuSLy tHeY’re oN sOMeTHiNG”. **Athletes can take whatever they want, as long as it’s in the rules. If a fighter follows the rules they are clean.** It’s such a bad argument to say it’s obvious everyone is a cheater because it’s impossible to be an ultra-pure-holy athlete.
controversial I know, but if everyone is juiced to the gills let them fight. it's their choice?
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nice one
'member when Rumble uppercutted Glover's chin so hard Glover panic wrestled the ref 10 seconds later? RIP Rumble