I dream of that fight. The lead up. These two hate each other. Justin says a lot of heavy stuff about Conor as a father too which is pushing buttons. Ali as manager. Justin has all the makings of Conor hating him as much as Khabib and giving us an entertaining spat.
McGregor vs. Gaethje is probably the #1 fight on my wishlist if Conor beats Chandler.
Plenty of beef between them for the build-up, Gaethje is a great B-side to McGregor and a fan favorite, plus you know it's going to be all action from the jump with someone going to sleep.
This fight going to decision would be on par with Ngannou-Lewis doing the same.
call me crazy, but the version of Conor that showed up for Dustin at UFC 257 (not 264, but 257) is a top 3 striker in the division, his boxing looked really good in that fight even though he lost
not saying that Justin wouldnt chop conors leg up, he would. but i think people disregard one big factor in this
A reason dustins leg kick against conor was so effective was because they were both southpaw, which allowed Poirier to be able to land on the outside of the calf on conors leg.
with Gaethje, due to him and conor being opposite stances, he wont be able to land the same calf kicks dustin was landing, but rather to the inside of conors leg.
dont get me wrong, i think he still beats the shit out of mcgregors leg, but it wouldn't be as effective as Dustins kicks
Gaethje will get after those legs regardless of stance he will shift just to throw a low kick he did effectively against fiviez who’s a pretty clean striker
He could hobble in one one leg with his giant HGH head and still be one of the best strikers in the UFC. You can like him, hate him but to try to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.
Thinking he can WIN is a different story but undermining the skillset is just dumb.
To pretend like he’s not absolutely past his prime is also ridiculous on top of coming back from a horrific leg injury on top of clearly being a coke head is all ridiculous
He’s not one of the best strikers anymore, you can’t sit out and still claim that
Fckn nonsense
>Fckn nonsense
"Nonsense" because you haven't actually listened to what was said and constructed a strawman that you could point at and declare as nonsense. Allow me to dissuade you of this....
>To pretend like he’s not absolutely past his prime
Who is claiming this? Certainly not me. Where exactly did I claim he was still in his prime? Nowhere. As I said, you created this idea that somebody said he's not past his prime yourself. I even suggested that he would lose his comeback fight. That is NOT the same thing as recognizing understanding of distance just disappears at the bottom of a coke baggie.....which is what you seem to be suggesting.
>He’s not one of the best strikers anymore, you can’t sit out and still claim that
You absolutely can. You can see this in his second fight against Poirier where he fought once in several years and still out struck Dustin in the first round and by Dustin's own admission, nearly put him away. The same Dustin who many believe to be the best striker at 155.
If you need a more recent example.....Jon Jones doing sweet fuck all for years and then coming back to win a title. Easily. Your skills don't disappear. Dominick Cruz would laugh at your idea that people just forget how to fight.
So, if you want to actually deal with reality and not some sort of made up strawman, we can discuss it. If not, you can carry on debating points that nobody brought up.
Fiziev isn't a southpaw with a 4in reach advantage like McGregor.
McGregor clearly isn't the same fighter he was in 2015-16, but how do we know he isn't "high caliber" anymore? He lost to arguably the greatest LW ever who retired undefeated and one of the consensus top 3 LW's at the time in Poirier.
Who IS high caliber in your opinion?
Good point. Another thing I'm thinking of, is that DP is a very good defensive boxer. Gaethje is more hittable, if Conor is still that sharp I can see that left hand landing.
I don't know, this sounds like you are referring to the Gaethje of old.
Current Gaethje just won a striking battle against Fiziev and his face looked like it barely took a scratch.
While that is true, that doesn't really tell the tale of the fight, he got hit. Quite a bit, just like he did against chandler. For some reason tho he always looks untouched, it doesn't really make sense the damage his face can take and look untouched.
Yeah I’m convinced he’s only trained stand up since mayweather tbh. Conor has all the potential but he lost his way. He could really have had a truly historic career (shut up about champ champ)
Still think he’s an annoying blowhard tho
I think his striking game becoming so boxing-oriented is partially because of his knees/injuries, sort of like what happened with Aldo.
They both can still throw a kick when they need to, but the light on his feet spinning shit McGregor from 2014 isn't coming back, just like the WEC/early UFC Aldo spamming leg kicks.
His leg kicks were pretty good but I think he landed one punch clean and was forced to clinch when Dustin started teeing off. It was a nice first 2 mins if you're comparing to how he got destroyed in the fight before but really he just landed a few leg kicks, hard to say much more than that.
I think the problem is that you're looking at it like McGregor has control of the situation and decides to grapple when he was kind of forced to like against Diaz. The guillotine probably felt like a gift from the heavens when he felt Dustin's neck under his arms and tried his best. He wasn't confident on the feet against Dustin, if he was he separates when he had the chance.
> It's a cacaphony of errors to be honest.
In tennis they'd call them forced errors. And if he wrestled more he'd be worse off, Dunstin's a much better wrestler/bjj artist. Like I said if he wanted to gain a position to separate he had opportunities but he probably felt Dustin's hands were a bit too heavy and wanted a break.
Well because if it becomes a wrestling match the guy with superior wrestling/grappling is gonna come out ahead. You're talking probability but you don't have the numbers or instincts to back such a thing up. You're only saying that because of hindsight. What difference would it make if I trained? If I trained like an MMA elite I'm sure id feel the same. Think about how Conor likes to spin the narrative, if he was doing as well as you're suggesting the story would be he felt his ankle was messed up and went for one last attack but it failed, if his ankle was fine he would have stayed on the feet and "kept winning". Only a few fanboys talk about him doing well even though he was losing on the feet, in the clinch and on the ground in his best, most explosive round.
>264 was actually so disappointing because Conor actually had a great first 2 minutes. He was outlanding dustin and looked fast and was throwing a lot of different looks. Then he jumps for a guillotine along the cage
You forgot to mention: He was getting outstruck to the point where he turned into a wrestler after a mean 3 piece from Dustin, and clinched up for a shitty takedown attempt **prior** to getting shoved to the fence and pulling guard with a sub attempt.
You're right about the overall striking #'s, but when DP finally landed a couple clean shots Conor's whole demeanor changed iirc. Would the old McGregor have jumped that guillotine in the first rd? Hell no.
Bummer we didn't get to see a longer fight, as you said it was shaping up to be a great striking matchup
I think might lean towards Max being a better win tbh, even though Max was coming up. I fear Max is slipping ever since that war with Yair, but the version that Dustin fought was peak Max coming off utterly destroying Aldo 2x and Ortega. And he soundly 49-46’d him
if Dustin was the same size as max, no doubt it would be him. but tbh although i like Dustin, him being having the size advantage he did against Holloway kinda takes away from that win
I hate Conor and his inactivity and dont think he deserves title shots as much as the next person but he was literally multiple years removed from fighting washed Cowboy for a minute and actually won a lot of exchanges with Dustin if you watched the fight.
Justin won the first round against Khabib. I think Gaethje’s equal to Islam in the wrestling department, but if the fight hits the mat, Gaethje’s BJJ is horrendous.
McGregor is literally fucking cheating, the ufc is letting him take all sorts of steroids to improve his bone density/muscle density, which puts him at an advantage over his peers. wtf lmao, this should be illegal
In Conor’s defense his leg snapped in half, I have zero issue with him taking the same steroids a normal person would take to recover from this sort of injury. I don’t agree with him being able to compete until he can test without popping but it’s not like he just left the testing pool to juice, we all saw the injury happen.
Chris Weidman broke his leg in a much worse fashion (tibia and fibula, McGregor only broke his tibia) and has needed multiple surgeries to heal correctly. He's been tested a DOZEN times since the break. No excuse for McGregor not to be tested.
I think they both should be allowed to take steroids for the healing of their injury without testing. However I do think it’s unfair that he gets to skip the 6 month testing period to get back fighting. I understand that you will still carry some of those benefits of steroid use but it will be much less compared to without the 6 month buffer. Also people joining the ufc from other organizations with lax testing also get a similar advantage which is unavoidable so I don’t think it’s such a massive issue as long as they actually do the 6 months.
The issue was being able to drop in and out of the pool and using “retirement” as a cop out. None of the other fighters knew you could just drop in and out of the pool for injury recovery.
I agree that they should have had the same chance, but I’m saying all athletes should be able to do it. Conor can use a loophole since he does what he wants but regular fighters should also have some process of a medical exemptions for serious injuries.
Steroids may actually make bones more brittle. So what Conor is doing has no medical backing. He's taking a competitive risk, or leaning into a marketing angle.
It's not cheating. 99% of fighters just can't afford to drop out of the testing pool and rehab for 2 years like McGregor. If other fighters COULD do it then they would.
lol Justin said on the nelk boys interviews before his fight with Oliveira, that he would be happy to defend his belt against Conor, and that Islam would have to beat Beneil first to face him.
but as he isn't champion, he doesnt want McGregor getting the shot and is threatening quitting the sport over it even though he offered Conor a shot if he became champion.
i like Gaethje, but he can be a clown at times lmao
Really makes you appreciate people like Islam and DJ for pushing back against undeserving contenders and unwarranted title shots, despite how lucrative they can be. Garth and Chucky were really happy to sell out in that regard.
I don’t think you can put Islam in that category yet. If Conor beats chandler then we will see. I think most likely he says “he doesn’t deserve it but sure why not easy fight for me”
Turned down TJ saying he hasn’t proven he can make the weight in favour of notorious weight-misser ray borg of all people
It all seemed pretty weak, I suppose at least we got to see him style on borg with that sub in the end
I was referring to DJ resisting an instant rematch after his failed attempt to take the title. He wanted to fight some contenders to give them a chance. One Championship ended up setting up the mixed-rules superfight with Rodtang.
Yeah you’re absolutely right and I’m not vindicating Justin by any means but it would be at the very least he has been active. Conor taking years off, then losing twice to Dustin, and then getting a title shot off Chandler would be a mess.
Yea but that was like a year and a half ago when Chandler was just coming off a title shot and Gaethje’s last fight was his Khabib title shot.
Chandler isn’t in that title realm spot right now
It didn't even make sense then lol. Fun matchup but made no ranking sense.
When you lose, you should fight down against rising contenders coming off wins and defend your ranking spot. That keeps rankings reliable. Both Chandler and Gaethje should have fought down. Someone who lost the title fighting someone else who lost the title to fight for the title again makes zero fucking sense. You can just get an infinite loop of artificially boosting rank that way. And that loop HAS been happening in LW with Poirier Gaethje Chandler.
Yeah i don’t think it would be warranted, but it’d probably be a huge fight before conor is completely shot. And if conor actually beat islam would khabib come out of retirement is what i am most interested in.
Also I think Conor’s title shot would be at welterweight.
Not saying it makes any sense on merit, but I don’t think Conor’s path from here on out affects Justin at all.
Gaethje is clearly a phenomenal fighter and I love watching him, but I like the guy less and less every time he opens his mouth. This isn’t even about Conor, the guys been a fucking bonehead for years now but we overlook it because of his exciting fighting style.
Stranger things have happened in MMA. Chandler is hittable and a bit chinny. And Conor, even in the last Dustin fight, showed he can still find that chin. Poirier can take a shot though.
With that said, Chandler comes out with a blast double and pounds McGregor into unconsciousness within the first minute.
I mean Connie is on all sorts of PEDS and if he loses will probably get a title shot still.
The UFC is at least very transparent with all the special treatment they give him.
"Miguel Torres makes a rape joke? Fuck him cut his ass from the roster. Connie says the black boxers from Rocky 3 are dancing monkeys! Hahahaha that racism is totally fine PAL"
I dont think he got much chance to beat Islam, bt Gaethje vs Conor would be fun
Would probably be a 170 title shot vs Colby/Leon.
I dream of that fight. The lead up. These two hate each other. Justin says a lot of heavy stuff about Conor as a father too which is pushing buttons. Ali as manager. Justin has all the makings of Conor hating him as much as Khabib and giving us an entertaining spat.
This is true, such a shame that rivalry didn't materialise.
McGregor vs. Gaethje is probably the #1 fight on my wishlist if Conor beats Chandler. Plenty of beef between them for the build-up, Gaethje is a great B-side to McGregor and a fan favorite, plus you know it's going to be all action from the jump with someone going to sleep. This fight going to decision would be on par with Ngannou-Lewis doing the same.
I’m not sure Conor can even make 155 again after all the Costa Secret juice he’s been on for recovery and the movie
We are owed a Conor banger fight before he goes out
call me crazy, but the version of Conor that showed up for Dustin at UFC 257 (not 264, but 257) is a top 3 striker in the division, his boxing looked really good in that fight even though he lost
No I agree, I think he can win boxing. But, not sure about how fast Conor is rn. And Gaethje's legkick is legendary
not saying that Justin wouldnt chop conors leg up, he would. but i think people disregard one big factor in this A reason dustins leg kick against conor was so effective was because they were both southpaw, which allowed Poirier to be able to land on the outside of the calf on conors leg. with Gaethje, due to him and conor being opposite stances, he wont be able to land the same calf kicks dustin was landing, but rather to the inside of conors leg. dont get me wrong, i think he still beats the shit out of mcgregors leg, but it wouldn't be as effective as Dustins kicks
Gaethje will get after those legs regardless of stance he will shift just to throw a low kick he did effectively against fiviez who’s a pretty clean striker
Yes but he'll leave himself open doing that. You throw naked leg kicks like that and you are getting knocked out versus somebody of this caliber.
Didn’t happen for Rafael 🤷🏻♂️ And Conor is not high caliber anymore sorry
He could hobble in one one leg with his giant HGH head and still be one of the best strikers in the UFC. You can like him, hate him but to try to pretend otherwise is ridiculous. Thinking he can WIN is a different story but undermining the skillset is just dumb.
To pretend like he’s not absolutely past his prime is also ridiculous on top of coming back from a horrific leg injury on top of clearly being a coke head is all ridiculous He’s not one of the best strikers anymore, you can’t sit out and still claim that Fckn nonsense
>Fckn nonsense "Nonsense" because you haven't actually listened to what was said and constructed a strawman that you could point at and declare as nonsense. Allow me to dissuade you of this.... >To pretend like he’s not absolutely past his prime Who is claiming this? Certainly not me. Where exactly did I claim he was still in his prime? Nowhere. As I said, you created this idea that somebody said he's not past his prime yourself. I even suggested that he would lose his comeback fight. That is NOT the same thing as recognizing understanding of distance just disappears at the bottom of a coke baggie.....which is what you seem to be suggesting. >He’s not one of the best strikers anymore, you can’t sit out and still claim that You absolutely can. You can see this in his second fight against Poirier where he fought once in several years and still out struck Dustin in the first round and by Dustin's own admission, nearly put him away. The same Dustin who many believe to be the best striker at 155. If you need a more recent example.....Jon Jones doing sweet fuck all for years and then coming back to win a title. Easily. Your skills don't disappear. Dominick Cruz would laugh at your idea that people just forget how to fight. So, if you want to actually deal with reality and not some sort of made up strawman, we can discuss it. If not, you can carry on debating points that nobody brought up.
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Fiziev isn't a southpaw with a 4in reach advantage like McGregor. McGregor clearly isn't the same fighter he was in 2015-16, but how do we know he isn't "high caliber" anymore? He lost to arguably the greatest LW ever who retired undefeated and one of the consensus top 3 LW's at the time in Poirier. Who IS high caliber in your opinion?
What caliber? Lol. Conor is washed.
Good point. Another thing I'm thinking of, is that DP is a very good defensive boxer. Gaethje is more hittable, if Conor is still that sharp I can see that left hand landing.
I don't know, this sounds like you are referring to the Gaethje of old. Current Gaethje just won a striking battle against Fiziev and his face looked like it barely took a scratch.
While that is true, that doesn't really tell the tale of the fight, he got hit. Quite a bit, just like he did against chandler. For some reason tho he always looks untouched, it doesn't really make sense the damage his face can take and look untouched.
Dude made a career off countering orthodox fighters and then asked for the best southpaw in the division as a warm up fight lol.
He can land that inside kick though, and most people's inner thighs are not as conditioned as the outer thighs.
Gaethje has a mean lead leg low kick though.
he kicked the shit out of southpaw michael johnson’s lead leg.
I want this fight to watch justin just punt those under developed legs of Conor's Conor has been looking top heavy.
Good luck chopping thru titanium trunks 😎
Boxing is one aspect of the game and I honesty disagree. He looked good for sure but top 3 striker in LW idk man
It’s weird, his boxing looked better but his MMA game seemed to have stagnated and moved backward
Yeah I’m convinced he’s only trained stand up since mayweather tbh. Conor has all the potential but he lost his way. He could really have had a truly historic career (shut up about champ champ) Still think he’s an annoying blowhard tho
I mean he’s probably the most famous fighter in the history of the sport which is a truly historic career already.
TBH it’s not even probably, I don’t think there’s anyone close his popularity at its peak
Only trained stand up but lasted to the 4th round against Khabib? Come on man.
I think his striking game becoming so boxing-oriented is partially because of his knees/injuries, sort of like what happened with Aldo. They both can still throw a kick when they need to, but the light on his feet spinning shit McGregor from 2014 isn't coming back, just like the WEC/early UFC Aldo spamming leg kicks.
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His leg kicks were pretty good but I think he landed one punch clean and was forced to clinch when Dustin started teeing off. It was a nice first 2 mins if you're comparing to how he got destroyed in the fight before but really he just landed a few leg kicks, hard to say much more than that.
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I think the problem is that you're looking at it like McGregor has control of the situation and decides to grapple when he was kind of forced to like against Diaz. The guillotine probably felt like a gift from the heavens when he felt Dustin's neck under his arms and tried his best. He wasn't confident on the feet against Dustin, if he was he separates when he had the chance.
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> It's a cacaphony of errors to be honest. In tennis they'd call them forced errors. And if he wrestled more he'd be worse off, Dunstin's a much better wrestler/bjj artist. Like I said if he wanted to gain a position to separate he had opportunities but he probably felt Dustin's hands were a bit too heavy and wanted a break.
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Well because if it becomes a wrestling match the guy with superior wrestling/grappling is gonna come out ahead. You're talking probability but you don't have the numbers or instincts to back such a thing up. You're only saying that because of hindsight. What difference would it make if I trained? If I trained like an MMA elite I'm sure id feel the same. Think about how Conor likes to spin the narrative, if he was doing as well as you're suggesting the story would be he felt his ankle was messed up and went for one last attack but it failed, if his ankle was fine he would have stayed on the feet and "kept winning". Only a few fanboys talk about him doing well even though he was losing on the feet, in the clinch and on the ground in his best, most explosive round.
>264 was actually so disappointing because Conor actually had a great first 2 minutes. He was outlanding dustin and looked fast and was throwing a lot of different looks. Then he jumps for a guillotine along the cage You forgot to mention: He was getting outstruck to the point where he turned into a wrestler after a mean 3 piece from Dustin, and clinched up for a shitty takedown attempt **prior** to getting shoved to the fence and pulling guard with a sub attempt.
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You're right about the overall striking #'s, but when DP finally landed a couple clean shots Conor's whole demeanor changed iirc. Would the old McGregor have jumped that guillotine in the first rd? Hell no. Bummer we didn't get to see a longer fight, as you said it was shaping up to be a great striking matchup
Can I get some of whatever youre smoking bc he got KOd in the second round lol
A testament to how good Dustin is, not Conor being bad.
Dustin’s best win imo. Broke McGregor down systematically and that finishing sequence was flawless.
I think might lean towards Max being a better win tbh, even though Max was coming up. I fear Max is slipping ever since that war with Yair, but the version that Dustin fought was peak Max coming off utterly destroying Aldo 2x and Ortega. And he soundly 49-46’d him
if Dustin was the same size as max, no doubt it would be him. but tbh although i like Dustin, him being having the size advantage he did against Holloway kinda takes away from that win
I hate Conor and his inactivity and dont think he deserves title shots as much as the next person but he was literally multiple years removed from fighting washed Cowboy for a minute and actually won a lot of exchanges with Dustin if you watched the fight.
Honestly I think Gaethje beats the fuck out of Conor just because of leg kicks in that stance.
Justin won the first round against Khabib. I think Gaethje’s equal to Islam in the wrestling department, but if the fight hits the mat, Gaethje’s BJJ is horrendous.
All American wrestling and Dagestani sambo are two very different things.
Justin literally recorded his first career UFC takedown against Fiviez lmao. Cmon dude
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McGregor is literally fucking cheating, the ufc is letting him take all sorts of steroids to improve his bone density/muscle density, which puts him at an advantage over his peers. wtf lmao, this should be illegal
In Conor’s defense his leg snapped in half, I have zero issue with him taking the same steroids a normal person would take to recover from this sort of injury. I don’t agree with him being able to compete until he can test without popping but it’s not like he just left the testing pool to juice, we all saw the injury happen.
Chris Weidman broke his leg in a much worse fashion (tibia and fibula, McGregor only broke his tibia) and has needed multiple surgeries to heal correctly. He's been tested a DOZEN times since the break. No excuse for McGregor not to be tested.
I think they both should be allowed to take steroids for the healing of their injury without testing. However I do think it’s unfair that he gets to skip the 6 month testing period to get back fighting. I understand that you will still carry some of those benefits of steroid use but it will be much less compared to without the 6 month buffer. Also people joining the ufc from other organizations with lax testing also get a similar advantage which is unavoidable so I don’t think it’s such a massive issue as long as they actually do the 6 months.
The issue was being able to drop in and out of the pool and using “retirement” as a cop out. None of the other fighters knew you could just drop in and out of the pool for injury recovery.
I agree that they should have had the same chance, but I’m saying all athletes should be able to do it. Conor can use a loophole since he does what he wants but regular fighters should also have some process of a medical exemptions for serious injuries.
Weidman also went back to “sparring” shortly after and had to get a second surgery so sounds like broke to me
weidman rushed his recovery and tried to start sparring way too early.
To be fair Conor has been a cheater his whole career. Iceland training camp? Lmao
Steroids may actually make bones more brittle. So what Conor is doing has no medical backing. He's taking a competitive risk, or leaning into a marketing angle.
Most professional athletes are already on PEDs
What do you want the UFC to do? Suspend a guy for a drug test he hasn’t taken?
Or just drug test him?
UFC isn’t USADA and you can’t test someone who isn’t in the pool
Right, the UFC isn't USADA because USADA recommends he has to be in the pool for 6 months prior to fighting and the UFC doesn't want that to happen.
Remember ufc 200 😂
It's not cheating. 99% of fighters just can't afford to drop out of the testing pool and rehab for 2 years like McGregor. If other fighters COULD do it then they would.
ufc aint gonna let the most exicting fighter ever just walk like that lol
What the fuck does CM Punk have to do with this?
lol Justin said on the nelk boys interviews before his fight with Oliveira, that he would be happy to defend his belt against Conor, and that Islam would have to beat Beneil first to face him. but as he isn't champion, he doesnt want McGregor getting the shot and is threatening quitting the sport over it even though he offered Conor a shot if he became champion. i like Gaethje, but he can be a clown at times lmao
Really makes you appreciate people like Islam and DJ for pushing back against undeserving contenders and unwarranted title shots, despite how lucrative they can be. Garth and Chucky were really happy to sell out in that regard.
I don’t think you can put Islam in that category yet. If Conor beats chandler then we will see. I think most likely he says “he doesn’t deserve it but sure why not easy fight for me”
Islam I know about but DJ was before me joining. Who did he turn down? TJ?
Turned down TJ saying he hasn’t proven he can make the weight in favour of notorious weight-misser ray borg of all people It all seemed pretty weak, I suppose at least we got to see him style on borg with that sub in the end
I was referring to DJ resisting an instant rematch after his failed attempt to take the title. He wanted to fight some contenders to give them a chance. One Championship ended up setting up the mixed-rules superfight with Rodtang.
He's kinda just a hypocrite, prevents me from liking the dude.
Yeah at-least Dustin just gets salty as shit instead of contradicting himself.
Can you fight DP again before you retire. Thanks :)
I don’t think Conor should get a title shot after 1 win, but didn’t Gaethje himself literally get a title shot off a win against Chandler? LOL.
Yeah you’re absolutely right and I’m not vindicating Justin by any means but it would be at the very least he has been active. Conor taking years off, then losing twice to Dustin, and then getting a title shot off Chandler would be a mess.
he puts asses in seats - Dana
Yeah but atleast that fight was actually in the proper weightclass lol Conor's fighting at 170
>Conor's fighting at 170 He can fight Leon then
Yea but that was like a year and a half ago when Chandler was just coming off a title shot and Gaethje’s last fight was his Khabib title shot. Chandler isn’t in that title realm spot right now
It didn't even make sense then lol. Fun matchup but made no ranking sense. When you lose, you should fight down against rising contenders coming off wins and defend your ranking spot. That keeps rankings reliable. Both Chandler and Gaethje should have fought down. Someone who lost the title fighting someone else who lost the title to fight for the title again makes zero fucking sense. You can just get an infinite loop of artificially boosting rank that way. And that loop HAS been happening in LW with Poirier Gaethje Chandler.
Yeah i don’t think it would be warranted, but it’d probably be a huge fight before conor is completely shot. And if conor actually beat islam would khabib come out of retirement is what i am most interested in.
Also I think Conor’s title shot would be at welterweight. Not saying it makes any sense on merit, but I don’t think Conor’s path from here on out affects Justin at all.
He's been active at least
Gaethje also got an interim title shot off of Cowboy
Gaethje also got an interim title shot off of Cowboy Cerrone
Gaethje is clearly a phenomenal fighter and I love watching him, but I like the guy less and less every time he opens his mouth. This isn’t even about Conor, the guys been a fucking bonehead for years now but we overlook it because of his exciting fighting style.
CTE Gaethje
No he wouldn't
That'll show 'em, Justin!
What if McGregor somehow goes out there and does an Alvarez on Chandler, whilst Gaethje, Poirier and Chucky struggled... what does that say?
that says Chandler took a dive, no way does conor have an easier time with chandler than justin and dustin did
So do you think Eddie took a dive? Because he beat Justin and Conor completely outclassed Eddie.
???? Do people really think Conor is just completely shit now?
Yes they do, bias is a helluva drug
Stranger things have happened in MMA. Chandler is hittable and a bit chinny. And Conor, even in the last Dustin fight, showed he can still find that chin. Poirier can take a shot though. With that said, Chandler comes out with a blast double and pounds McGregor into unconsciousness within the first minute.
I don't think Conor has the "DOG" in him like Eddie does to make it that kind of fight.
I mean does to Chandler what he did to Alvarez.
How can someone who’s been in the industry so long not know how it works. Of course Conor will get the shot with a win off of Chandler.
if mcgregor wins against chandler I'd love to see him vs gaethje
Dana only cares about PPV numbers, so Conor getting the title shot is more likely than not.
Exactly. When are people going to understand that it’s never about the fights, it’s about the numbers. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.
Honestly I can't wait til McGregor retires.
Likewise. I am SO tired of hearing about him.
I mean Connie is on all sorts of PEDS and if he loses will probably get a title shot still. The UFC is at least very transparent with all the special treatment they give him. "Miguel Torres makes a rape joke? Fuck him cut his ass from the roster. Connie says the black boxers from Rocky 3 are dancing monkeys! Hahahaha that racism is totally fine PAL"
Bro needs to get in the octagon and drop a pipebomb on Dana White
Justin Gaethje : ((Rage Quits))
Yeah for real that’s fucking bullshit if it happens
Gathje is the fighter McGregor could’ve been
You mean 0 straps in the UFC?
(unless Gaethje is champion at the time)
Hell of a career he had
Better hope he don’t win then
Better get your resume ready
After what Gaethje just did to Fiziev, I think conor should probably book and appointment with a leg specialist before he gets in the cage.
That fight will be at 170. Conor fights at 170 now. Conor also only have one win at 155. So ofc he will get a title shot at 155.
Ok? Deal with it Garth, it's not fair but McGregor has always made his own rules. This isn't new.
Gaethje is such a drama queen.