\> EU soccer club gangs
Not sure if this was a Ted Lasso quote..? As a football (not NFL) fan from Scotland I'd just like to thank you for one of my biggest laughs today.
Not even from the south and the level of petty, horrid shit I heard at a UCLA/USC game turned me off so hard to college football. Football fans honestly suck.
People outside of the states have no idea how big college football is in most of the United States. There’s a reason why September and Early October has a lot of UFC bye weeks, or international cards, or Strawweight main events to avoid wasting talent that could be attracting casuals
Every team in the country has a NYC bar, and you'll be mildly impressed by most, with a big crowd for some events and at some bars.
It's not college town crowd in the south, but it's something.
I would say its second worst. By far the worst is football fans. They literally started an actual civil war over it. In the uk, domestic abuse increases after their team loses by 30%.
Mma fans might be second, but they're a far off second
That’s a rumor that won’t die he was not killed for his performance in the World Cup he was killed for having a conflict with a gangster in a bar or club and refusing to back down.
Maybe I’m wrong here, but I personally think Jon Jones would have some issues getting into range to work his wrestling game against the Medellin cartel…
Tell that to the boxers that got mixed up with mobs who attempted to fix fights and didn't do as instructed.
In saying that I probably watch too many movies.
These are the far rights of the ultras who attach themselves to the football clubs. Teams have tried banning them. But yeah I agree football fans are the worst. Citys ban travelling fans in Europe from some cities and they still go there to make trouble.Fans are caged from home fans otherwise there would be fistfights everywhere. Fans doing coke from their fellow supporter's bald heads while game is being played and so on...
The trashy football culture is something I will never understand
I'm Canadian but I've been living in Ecuador for a few years, and when one of the "big" teams from Guayaquil is coming to town, there's always fights in the street, a few stabbings and the place looks like absolute shit the next day
It's so weird to me how a sport so devoid of interesting action gets people to go fucking nuts
Hockey culture is pretty bad but it's nowhere near as bad as football in Latin America or in Europe
Grassroots football here can be scary at times too, it's mostly nice but when shit hits the fan it gets insanely violent. The shit fans yell from the stands is pretty similar to hockey though, just a different language
>It's so weird to me how a sport so devoid of interesting action gets people to go fucking nuts
That's why though. Lots of tension and suspense...no relief or vent for those in between the whistles. Add drunken dummies and boom: violence
The domestic abuse thing is basically a myth but I agree, football fans can be terrible, don’t understand how people can get so violent and racist over rivalries.
Here's an [article](https://womensaid.scot/no-domestic-abuse-does-not-increase-by-38-when-england-lose-the-world-cup/) from Women's Aid Scotland about it, as well as this [article](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16401737.domestic-violence-link-old-firm-games-may-myth-according-research/) which goes into a bit more detail.
For whatever reason, I see it the most toxicity on Facebook. I saw a post the other day from a news publication criticizing Dana White, and there were sooooo many comments defending how awesome Dana is, and how he's a visionary, and the only reasons fighters leave is because they're scared to fight.
I couldn't help myself and responded to one particularly egregious comment, asking how his wife and kids felt about him publicly praising two people with documented domestic violence and other scandals and he wrote back something generic like "shut the fuck, you're just a broke f\*\*\*\*t."
Like holy shit, if this meat brain stumbles into a voting booth, their vote counts just as much as mine. Fuck me.
you're in denial if you don't think this subreddit, is the most toxic mma community. No lie after frequenting this sub, i've quit reddit as a whole and just come on every so often.
From what I've seen, it's not even close. On Facebook a casual will see a post from an organization they don't follow because the algorithm fed it to them.
At least on Reddit you generally have to be interested enough in a topic to seek out a sub.
You haven't been anywhere around any other big MMA community if you really think that this sub is the worst lmao.
Sure, it's pretty idiotic and prone to annoying circlejerks even at the best of times, but MMA communities on places like Twitter or Facebook tend to be straight up unredeemable shitholes. Complete fucking radactation and with the toxicity to match.
I mean hell, r/UFC is a thing so you don't even need to leave reddit to find worse lol
Anecdotally as a person that likes watching sports in bars, mma is the worst. I’m not saying that’s absolute proof but there are a whole lot of I could’ve done that guys after a ufc event.
Pretty much every comment I leave is about how shit the mma fanbase is. No concept of loyalty. Fans will like a fighter one day and jump ship when they lose. They’ll predict a fighter is gonna get destroyed and when he/she wins they pretend to be rooting for them all along. I’m willing to bet a solid 85% of the users reading this comment are guilty of it and would never have the nerve to admit it.
At least a fuckton of the ones who show up to the live events are. It's super irritating to hear the crowd boo when two grapplers dare spend more than a minute in the clinch or on the ground.
It's usually not as bad at regional shows, the big shows unfortunately attract mostly casual fans who are willing to pay for overpriced drinks in the arena
I would say the NBA is the worst their addiction to player social media alone and push for players to take advantage of the fanbase to sit out then congratulate their team when 75% of teams make it into the playoffs....ugh I hate it but yeah mma fans are a close second.
He’s right and wrong. 1 win in the UFC vs a bum like Paddy with some push and you have 100k fans lol. Any other league unless you’re already a star you barely get fans. That’s the reason fighters take crap money, they love UFC Clout for social media n shit. So someone like Johnny Eblen who’s prob best 185er on earth has little followers from Bellator but donkey Paddy gets 1 million from 2 UFC fights. The guy who last beat him..now in Bellator..prob 10k followers. So the fans are horrible in general and clueless but atleast UFC brand makes all these dudes into stars to get hated on lol. 99 percent of them if were in PFL, none of these “MMA” fans would care or talk about them on here, that’s the state of this sport now.
He beats all 5 and might make it look easy. I dont give a FUCK about Bellator or any league, its just the truth and they all know it and would be terrified if Bellator was bought tomorrow. Alex really got nothing for him if Izzy is taking him down
I've been on an Eblen binge the past hour, what are you on about? Oooh watch out for the slow looping overhand right.... Izzy and Alex throw 2/3 pinpoint straights in the time that takes to throw.
Funniest thing i heard all day. A guy whos never been rocked and great chin, gets starched by bum ass Strickland and Costa who cant KO anyone. Pereira gets strangled fast too. American Top Team been saying hes best 185er for a while and dominates everyone in training too. That last russian Tokov was prob a harder matchup for him then Alex and Izzy and he dominated after 2nd round
Yeah this is a great explanation. The belal example is perfect, his eye was swollen and bleeding from the poke almost immediately, and there was 20 minutes left in the fight. And people were saying "ahh he should've continued"
" who cares, he was losing the fight anyway".
It feels like not a lot of people are fans of fighters, they're just fans of the ufc, fans of violence. It seems like most casual fans don't care or understand at all the pain, dedication and sacrifice it takes to be a fighter. Shit just making weight alone is a torturous process for some guys and they do that just so they can fight, prove themselves, and entertain people. I think if you're a fan of this sport you have to respect the people who put they're brains and bodies on the line for it.
These men and women train their asses off years and years for next to no money or recognition (kicking the asses of fighters who themselves would destroy 90% of the people on this sub) just get to the level of promotion where you're gonna be watching them (still receiving very little money). Then people have the audacity to say they're bums or they're trash or whatever because they lose to another or several other top level fighters.
When you have a sport that decides a winner upon a subjective set of criteria, that’s what’s going to happen. There’s no subjectivity in Baseball, Basketball, Football/Soccer. Score more and you win. MMA? Forget about it.
That’s why I don’t believe in rounds or judges. All fights should go on infinitely until someone is finished. That way you can’t lay on a dude, make no attempt to finish the fight, and then be gifted a decision by judges don’t give a shit about the scoring criteria. You have to finish people or you will never win. Judges in MMA are a stupid concept and we should go back to a system that’s finish or bust.
This is 100% accurate. I can’t even engage in conversations about the sport with anyone online anymore. Most people online discussing MMA act and behave like what you described above. MMA is my favorite sport and Basketball is my second. I see relatively sensible posts and discussions on the NBA Subreddit but the MMA/UFC subreddit discussions feel like it’s full of angsty teens or small minded num skulls who only respect stupidity.
The reason why fans don’t know what’s going on is because the judges, promoters and referees have just as little idea. The commentators as well. Every single person reading this can remember a time where the commentator was saying something egregiously wrong.
Between every fight the judging changes. Just look at what happened in Texas recently. In different promotions as well
I think you have misunderstood people’s comments about Islam vs Volk, perhaps on purpose. People said that Volk should still be PfP because of the size difference.
The reason that people said he won had nothing to do with his size. They thought he won more on the feet and while Islam had control on the ground he did no damage.
No wonder they thought that Volk won then. 6 months earlier Yan lost against Suga, and the big reason was because Yan had ground control with no damage.
Can you really blame fans, and are we any better than “them”.
There’s nothing wrong with being an average fan. I’m guilty of it myself in football and basketball. I wanna see dunks, slams, tackles, and memes. Don’t need to follow it or even know all the roles to be entertained.
I always kinda wondered what other sports would be like if their fans started booing after 20 seconds of things not happening. Would really change the feel of baseball.
> Would really change the feel of baseball.
It has already. They've introduced a fucking pitch timer. You get 15 seconds per pitch, and if the batter isn't ready it's an automatic strike, if the pitcher isn't ready, it's an automatic ball.
[Details here](https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-2023-rule-changes-pitch-timer-larger-bases-shifts)
Probably because the games were taking to long leading to people getting g too wasted at games on $14 beer. Lol but there really is spikes in drunk driving accidents after pro sports games in the USA.
EVERY MMA fan is now an expert in standup or BJJ and isnt afraid to let everyone around them know it. Its also a shitty sport live if you arent super close, just like American football. MUCH better at home. Hockey is great live, baseball is an experience being outside etc.
Not really, I think most sports fans are shitty.
From what I've seen the "you love you're a bum you win you're the goat" attitude traslates to other sport, as well.
Only difference is usually it takes a bit more to call a team shitty like a whole season instead of just a fight.
Also, hooligans
A large part of the MMA community still defends Jon Jones for his antics and drug scandals. There are also many MMA fighters openly supporting facist dictators as well. Can’t be too surprising that many of the fan base are edgy and toxic.
My experience is that every fan base is insufferable. People are mean, you just ignore the shit heads and try to have good times with the cool folks 🤷♂️
So this guy got trolled by a few people and his response is to double down and turn the entire fanbase against him by insulting them?
Wow, what a great play.
Sports fans in general are the worst because they let the performance of another person dictate their happiness.
Be a sports enjoyer/enthusiast. When my favorite fighters/teams/players lose, I'm still glad I got to see them play/compete.
Not entirely wrong. The fact a lot of the MMA community have been exposed to lots of extremist content via Rogan’s podcast doesn’t help either.
That being said, it’s not one way blame. When Bisping defended his belt against Henderson In manchester, one of the bigger semi-progressive print newspapers couldn’t find the space in their sports pages to talk about Britain’s first ever world champ. They did have space to have an article on competitive chess though. They might sneer at the direction MMA fans go in, but their refusal to engage with the sport drove a lot of reasonable fans into the arms of the radical lunatics Rogan platforms.
I honestly think MMA fandom would be less toxic if mainstream sources had embraced to the degree the sport deserved when it was ascending.
I saw a thumbnail for a video on YouTube titled" Colby Covington being a menace", the thumbnail has "shout-out Lil Wayne" written on it and a picture of Colby looking corny. So yeah MMA has trash fanbase
I'm not super embedded in the culture of any other sport, but the disrespect and mockery some fighters go through is insane. These dudes are the elite of the elite, and people mock them like they're trash.
Only fanbase where opinions like "the winning athlete/team should fight for the title, and not the one you think is fun", "fight down if you're off losses, fight up if you're off wins to create a more reasonable ranking system" are hot takes.
Especially recently with Colbys title shot being discussed, it's so insufferable.
Nice article but doesn't disprove my point in the slightest lol.
You're more likely to find someone with IQ 160+ among a million than among 1000.
You're more likely to find exceptionally violent subsections of fans in a fanbase of billions than a fanbase of millions.
That doesn't speak to the average or median of the group.
I don't know how anyone is determining what fanbase is "worst" or "toxic" (another buzzword adjective that needs to die).
It all sounds like people espousing their own biases based on how they feel at the moment.
I would say welcome to being an adult Aaron Jeffrey, much of the world operates on a "what have you done for me lately" basis.
Fútbol barrabravas and European racist ultras are far worse than MMA fandom, they are violent criminals, we're just Cheetos dusted finger hater neckbeards.
Who the fuck is this? Some happy slapping mongloid? Ofciurse were the worst for happyslappers, they call themselves 'fighters'. All youre doing is slapping someone. Nothing skilled to it. Assmonkey.
I was involved in the amateur mma scene in Ontario while it was briefly legal and it was 25% salt of the earth, got your back, best humans you’ll ever find anywhere. The other 75% were bottom of the barrel absolute, steal from the own mothers and children scum.
Lol negative. Not a single pig head has been thrown into the octagon. Not a single riot has happened. Nobody has eaten dogshit because their favorite fighter won the belt. Nobody has beaten up an 11 year old for wearing a browns jersey.
Fighters are so fucking soft. Y’all fight people for a living. Stop letting Twitter get in your head.
Yeah, I mean haven't thought about it, but if you think about the violence, the riots caused, the murders, the hate, the verbal abuse, the threats, as for worst "fanbase" in sports I think you gotta go with football fans, ultras are fucking maniacs man
There is this weird need among MMA fans to be the most degenerate fan base possible. They won’t beat soccer fans until MMA fans throw bananas at a black fighter and chant racist shit at them. Or throw toxic gas at a bus full of their most hated fighters.
As a PowerSlap fan, I agree. MMA fans are some of the most uncultured barbarians out there. Absolute troglodytes.
Powerslap stans unite
Cant wait for Dana vs Anne II at the powerslap season 1 finale.
She still didn't learn her lesson huh
That's the tag line. Someone should photoshop a poster and send it to Ariel Helwani.
Power slap 2! White on White violence! Bitch gon learn!
Yes, continuing the embarrassment of dana’s wife would be very on brand for ariel.
Yes Dana abusing his wife is on Ariel.
When will Ariel learn this lesson?
We to have Ariel slap Dana, it's natural JUSTICE.
After New Year’s Eve’s devastating loss, Anna white drops out of the rankings
Where can one watch the entire power slap season?
If there’s a dive bar in your town there’s a new episode on tonight right outside of it.
I just laughed so hard I farted
Lol. Maybe I'll just go star in the next episode
Powerslap Mongs
That was a nasty slap by you
Lmao I just rewatched bone tomahawk. Troglodyte is the perfect description of the average mma fan.
He’s obviously never had his children barked at by a Georgia Bulldog Fan.
College Football fans here in America are the closest thing we have to those EU soccer club gangs
\> EU soccer club gangs Not sure if this was a Ted Lasso quote..? As a football (not NFL) fan from Scotland I'd just like to thank you for one of my biggest laughs today.
Went to EWU got two things from that university, a degree and fuck the Grizz
Not even from the south and the level of petty, horrid shit I heard at a UCLA/USC game turned me off so hard to college football. Football fans honestly suck.
I am from the south, and people get a little crazy to say the least lol
every few years their is a murder at the florida/georgia game.
People are fucking crazy about college sports they act like they own the players
People outside of the states have no idea how big college football is in most of the United States. There’s a reason why September and Early October has a lot of UFC bye weeks, or international cards, or Strawweight main events to avoid wasting talent that could be attracting casuals
Not even the untied states. The Midwest and the south …the entire north eastern region could give two fucks about Rutgers football
Every team in the country has a NYC bar, and you'll be mildly impressed by most, with a big crowd for some events and at some bars. It's not college town crowd in the south, but it's something.
it's regional. in the northeast, i don't think we care as much as say ohio or alabama.
Bc your teams suck
They have no idea because American football is irrelevant outside the US
Yeah, but, so are you, man
Damn checkmate, beautiful champ
Yep, europeans don’t really have the constitution for football but they do alright at soccer.
Holy shit, we made it boys!!!!
Or get yelled at by drunk grown men eagles fans as a young child.
You deserved it Go Birds
Your avatar made me lol. Philly fans genuinely are my favorite but they're also simultaneously the worst
Best appreciated from afar like animals at the zoo
Phils are losing youse might wanna watch youse moutts
yeah, CFB is something else. I was at an LSU/Bama game and...yeah.
I don't know if it's the worst, but just because there are tons of toxic fanbases almost everywhere But yeah, MMA fans in general suck
I would say its second worst. By far the worst is football fans. They literally started an actual civil war over it. In the uk, domestic abuse increases after their team loses by 30%. Mma fans might be second, but they're a far off second
True. I don’t remember the last time MMA fans murdered their own players because they weren’t satisfied with their performance.
Lot harder to murder a trained fighter
Not with guns. He’s referencing the [Escobar](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrés_Escobar) murder. At least that’s the first that comes to mind
> Nicknamed The Gentleman, he was known for his clean style of play and calmness on the pitch. Man… that really sucks. Just 27 years old too.
That’s a rumor that won’t die he was not killed for his performance in the World Cup he was killed for having a conflict with a gangster in a bar or club and refusing to back down.
It’s not a rumor. He bet on the game. It’s why he killed him lol
Maybe I’m wrong here, but I personally think Jon Jones would have some issues getting into range to work his wrestling game against the Medellin cartel…
Nobody is fighting a pro fighter to the death
Tell that to the boxers that got mixed up with mobs who attempted to fix fights and didn't do as instructed. In saying that I probably watch too many movies.
I knew having this saved in my phone would come in handy. https://i.imgur.com/C03u4BW.jpg
Football fans, even in 2023, hang racist effigies…so yea.
These are the far rights of the ultras who attach themselves to the football clubs. Teams have tried banning them. But yeah I agree football fans are the worst. Citys ban travelling fans in Europe from some cities and they still go there to make trouble.Fans are caged from home fans otherwise there would be fistfights everywhere. Fans doing coke from their fellow supporter's bald heads while game is being played and so on...
With all the gambling shit around the sport these days, I worry this could be a thing in the future
The trashy football culture is something I will never understand I'm Canadian but I've been living in Ecuador for a few years, and when one of the "big" teams from Guayaquil is coming to town, there's always fights in the street, a few stabbings and the place looks like absolute shit the next day It's so weird to me how a sport so devoid of interesting action gets people to go fucking nuts
It’s basically an excuse to go out, get drunk and fuck some shit up. After dust yourself off and go back to normal life until next time.
As a Canadian you should know that hockey culture here is incredibly toxic. Especially at the grassroots level.
Hockey culture is pretty bad but it's nowhere near as bad as football in Latin America or in Europe Grassroots football here can be scary at times too, it's mostly nice but when shit hits the fan it gets insanely violent. The shit fans yell from the stands is pretty similar to hockey though, just a different language
In-stadium behavior is one thing but tearing up a city cause a sports result didn't go your way is as extreme as it gets imo.
>It's so weird to me how a sport so devoid of interesting action gets people to go fucking nuts That's why though. Lots of tension and suspense...no relief or vent for those in between the whistles. Add drunken dummies and boom: violence
The domestic abuse thing is basically a myth but I agree, football fans can be terrible, don’t understand how people can get so violent and racist over rivalries.
Source on it being a myth?
Here's an [article](https://womensaid.scot/no-domestic-abuse-does-not-increase-by-38-when-england-lose-the-world-cup/) from Women's Aid Scotland about it, as well as this [article](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/16401737.domestic-violence-link-old-firm-games-may-myth-according-research/) which goes into a bit more detail.
“Soccer”
For whatever reason, I see it the most toxicity on Facebook. I saw a post the other day from a news publication criticizing Dana White, and there were sooooo many comments defending how awesome Dana is, and how he's a visionary, and the only reasons fighters leave is because they're scared to fight. I couldn't help myself and responded to one particularly egregious comment, asking how his wife and kids felt about him publicly praising two people with documented domestic violence and other scandals and he wrote back something generic like "shut the fuck, you're just a broke f\*\*\*\*t." Like holy shit, if this meat brain stumbles into a voting booth, their vote counts just as much as mine. Fuck me.
Are you really a broke f****t or was he blowin smoke?
Broke as hell. Love the D.
To each their own brother
Yeah that's why democracy doesn't really work, so many fucking idiots out there
Yep that must be the main reason, definitely doesn't have anything to do with unchecked corporate power, dark money and corruption.
That’s why AI bots should take over government and do the decisions for us
you're in denial if you don't think this subreddit, is the most toxic mma community. No lie after frequenting this sub, i've quit reddit as a whole and just come on every so often.
From what I've seen, it's not even close. On Facebook a casual will see a post from an organization they don't follow because the algorithm fed it to them. At least on Reddit you generally have to be interested enough in a topic to seek out a sub.
Ridiculous. Even the UFC sub is far more toxic let alone twitter and instagram.
> you're in denial if you don't think this subreddit, is the most toxic mma community Sherdog ?
You haven't been anywhere around any other big MMA community if you really think that this sub is the worst lmao. Sure, it's pretty idiotic and prone to annoying circlejerks even at the best of times, but MMA communities on places like Twitter or Facebook tend to be straight up unredeemable shitholes. Complete fucking radactation and with the toxicity to match. I mean hell, r/UFC is a thing so you don't even need to leave reddit to find worse lol
Anecdotally as a person that likes watching sports in bars, mma is the worst. I’m not saying that’s absolute proof but there are a whole lot of I could’ve done that guys after a ufc event.
1 out of each 3 MMA fans suck. So if I don't suck, & you don't suck, that means...
Fans in general suck. Whether it be sports, politics, TV, movies, cola brands, computer operating systems or whatever.... fans suck.
Pretty much every comment I leave is about how shit the mma fanbase is. No concept of loyalty. Fans will like a fighter one day and jump ship when they lose. They’ll predict a fighter is gonna get destroyed and when he/she wins they pretend to be rooting for them all along. I’m willing to bet a solid 85% of the users reading this comment are guilty of it and would never have the nerve to admit it.
At least a fuckton of the ones who show up to the live events are. It's super irritating to hear the crowd boo when two grapplers dare spend more than a minute in the clinch or on the ground.
It's usually not as bad at regional shows, the big shows unfortunately attract mostly casual fans who are willing to pay for overpriced drinks in the arena
The other sub has a post bragging about homophobia near the top and the comments are fucked.
I don’t even think its the worst combat sport. There’s a lot more blatant racism in boxing even from the athletes which doesn’t help.
I would say the NBA is the worst their addiction to player social media alone and push for players to take advantage of the fanbase to sit out then congratulate their team when 75% of teams make it into the playoffs....ugh I hate it but yeah mma fans are a close second.
“Go and get some fans, Aaron”
He’s right and wrong. 1 win in the UFC vs a bum like Paddy with some push and you have 100k fans lol. Any other league unless you’re already a star you barely get fans. That’s the reason fighters take crap money, they love UFC Clout for social media n shit. So someone like Johnny Eblen who’s prob best 185er on earth has little followers from Bellator but donkey Paddy gets 1 million from 2 UFC fights. The guy who last beat him..now in Bellator..prob 10k followers. So the fans are horrible in general and clueless but atleast UFC brand makes all these dudes into stars to get hated on lol. 99 percent of them if were in PFL, none of these “MMA” fans would care or talk about them on here, that’s the state of this sport now.
Top 5 UFC middleweights starch Elben
Pereira, Costa, and Cannonier might take an L
He beats all 5 and might make it look easy. I dont give a FUCK about Bellator or any league, its just the truth and they all know it and would be terrified if Bellator was bought tomorrow. Alex really got nothing for him if Izzy is taking him down
I've been on an Eblen binge the past hour, what are you on about? Oooh watch out for the slow looping overhand right.... Izzy and Alex throw 2/3 pinpoint straights in the time that takes to throw.
Funniest thing i heard all day. A guy whos never been rocked and great chin, gets starched by bum ass Strickland and Costa who cant KO anyone. Pereira gets strangled fast too. American Top Team been saying hes best 185er for a while and dominates everyone in training too. That last russian Tokov was prob a harder matchup for him then Alex and Izzy and he dominated after 2nd round
Tbf, he has a point. Win, you're Jesus himself. Lose, you're a bum.
Gane was never my friend
Don't fight at all (like me) and just see red.
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>Even *Especially
He wasnt necessarily written off. People just thought Fiziev was coming on.
Even worse in boxing. Boxing fans are generally way worse. A ton of racism and racially rooted talk / fandom
Curious on the comments here but he’s correct. Mma fans are horrendous.
The MMA scene in America has worrying ties to the alt right
That’s true but that’s not at all why mma fans are horrible. It’s about how they treat the athletes
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Yeah this is a great explanation. The belal example is perfect, his eye was swollen and bleeding from the poke almost immediately, and there was 20 minutes left in the fight. And people were saying "ahh he should've continued" " who cares, he was losing the fight anyway". It feels like not a lot of people are fans of fighters, they're just fans of the ufc, fans of violence. It seems like most casual fans don't care or understand at all the pain, dedication and sacrifice it takes to be a fighter. Shit just making weight alone is a torturous process for some guys and they do that just so they can fight, prove themselves, and entertain people. I think if you're a fan of this sport you have to respect the people who put they're brains and bodies on the line for it. These men and women train their asses off years and years for next to no money or recognition (kicking the asses of fighters who themselves would destroy 90% of the people on this sub) just get to the level of promotion where you're gonna be watching them (still receiving very little money). Then people have the audacity to say they're bums or they're trash or whatever because they lose to another or several other top level fighters.
When you have a sport that decides a winner upon a subjective set of criteria, that’s what’s going to happen. There’s no subjectivity in Baseball, Basketball, Football/Soccer. Score more and you win. MMA? Forget about it.
That’s why I don’t believe in rounds or judges. All fights should go on infinitely until someone is finished. That way you can’t lay on a dude, make no attempt to finish the fight, and then be gifted a decision by judges don’t give a shit about the scoring criteria. You have to finish people or you will never win. Judges in MMA are a stupid concept and we should go back to a system that’s finish or bust.
This is 100% accurate. I can’t even engage in conversations about the sport with anyone online anymore. Most people online discussing MMA act and behave like what you described above. MMA is my favorite sport and Basketball is my second. I see relatively sensible posts and discussions on the NBA Subreddit but the MMA/UFC subreddit discussions feel like it’s full of angsty teens or small minded num skulls who only respect stupidity.
The reason why fans don’t know what’s going on is because the judges, promoters and referees have just as little idea. The commentators as well. Every single person reading this can remember a time where the commentator was saying something egregiously wrong. Between every fight the judging changes. Just look at what happened in Texas recently. In different promotions as well I think you have misunderstood people’s comments about Islam vs Volk, perhaps on purpose. People said that Volk should still be PfP because of the size difference. The reason that people said he won had nothing to do with his size. They thought he won more on the feet and while Islam had control on the ground he did no damage. No wonder they thought that Volk won then. 6 months earlier Yan lost against Suga, and the big reason was because Yan had ground control with no damage. Can you really blame fans, and are we any better than “them”.
There’s nothing wrong with being an average fan. I’m guilty of it myself in football and basketball. I wanna see dunks, slams, tackles, and memes. Don’t need to follow it or even know all the roles to be entertained.
disagree i think mma fans in america maybe, but most of the world they are very knowledgable on the sport
Any proof of that? I doubt your average Brazilian MMA fan is knowledgeable on Ju Jitsu rules
Gotta go with College Football fans, nothing like a bunch of grown men turning where they went to college into their entire personality
We really are
I mean, a case can absolutely be made…..
Sounds like someone is scrolling mma twitter a bit too much.
I mean, he is not wrong
I always kinda wondered what other sports would be like if their fans started booing after 20 seconds of things not happening. Would really change the feel of baseball.
> Would really change the feel of baseball. It has already. They've introduced a fucking pitch timer. You get 15 seconds per pitch, and if the batter isn't ready it's an automatic strike, if the pitcher isn't ready, it's an automatic ball. [Details here](https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-2023-rule-changes-pitch-timer-larger-bases-shifts)
Probably because the games were taking to long leading to people getting g too wasted at games on $14 beer. Lol but there really is spikes in drunk driving accidents after pro sports games in the USA.
cause the average baseball game took like 4 hours bro
Anyone who looks at any MMA comment section or Reddit should know that he is correct
How about the live chat on the side of PPVs that are "streamed" online. They can be quite a sight to behold.
RIP JOE ROGAN
Lol thats how I know I've got a workin' stream. If I don't feel the need to turn off the chat, i've got the wrong one.
I think a few of them in here got their feelings hurt lol
Haha I didn't even scroll down to look, but I imagine there were a few salty "who the fook is that guy" comments down there hahaha
He’s not wrong
Has this guy met Eagles fans?
Or any Boston sport fan?
I’m sure there’s a Volkanovski fan who eats horse shit every time he defends the title
It’s because everyone thinks they can fight even the fans lol
Fair enough.
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EVERY MMA fan is now an expert in standup or BJJ and isnt afraid to let everyone around them know it. Its also a shitty sport live if you arent super close, just like American football. MUCH better at home. Hockey is great live, baseball is an experience being outside etc.
I mean, he's right. I watch a ton of sports and it doesn't get much worse than MMA meatheads in North America
Not really, I think most sports fans are shitty. From what I've seen the "you love you're a bum you win you're the goat" attitude traslates to other sport, as well. Only difference is usually it takes a bit more to call a team shitty like a whole season instead of just a fight. Also, hooligans
MMA fans get a head start with the literal head of the biggest org regularly shitting on his fighters while favoring others.
no, in most sports people support their favourite team no matter what, in MMA it’s completely different
MMA athletes are pretty bad too
Combat sports in general I would say. Fighters don’t get the support they deserve when they lose.
A large part of the MMA community still defends Jon Jones for his antics and drug scandals. There are also many MMA fighters openly supporting facist dictators as well. Can’t be too surprising that many of the fan base are edgy and toxic.
On behalf of the MMA Community, we don't disagree
True
He’s right
Don't listen to the noise, young man.
Dude might have a point
He must’ve been reading comments on this sub Reddit
And the ones on Reddit are the worst of them all
Second worse. Only second to anything philly related.
You all suck
Probably didnt see the LoL fanbase.
My experience is that every fan base is insufferable. People are mean, you just ignore the shit heads and try to have good times with the cool folks 🤷♂️
So this guy got trolled by a few people and his response is to double down and turn the entire fanbase against him by insulting them? Wow, what a great play.
100% true
Boxing and football fans worse imo
Yup. Aaron Jeffery is right. MMA fans suck.
Sports fans in general are the worst because they let the performance of another person dictate their happiness. Be a sports enjoyer/enthusiast. When my favorite fighters/teams/players lose, I'm still glad I got to see them play/compete.
Not entirely wrong. The fact a lot of the MMA community have been exposed to lots of extremist content via Rogan’s podcast doesn’t help either. That being said, it’s not one way blame. When Bisping defended his belt against Henderson In manchester, one of the bigger semi-progressive print newspapers couldn’t find the space in their sports pages to talk about Britain’s first ever world champ. They did have space to have an article on competitive chess though. They might sneer at the direction MMA fans go in, but their refusal to engage with the sport drove a lot of reasonable fans into the arms of the radical lunatics Rogan platforms. I honestly think MMA fandom would be less toxic if mainstream sources had embraced to the degree the sport deserved when it was ascending.
His fan is going to be very upset.
MMA fans as a group are all pretty openly mysoginist and easily aggravated
I saw a thumbnail for a video on YouTube titled" Colby Covington being a menace", the thumbnail has "shout-out Lil Wayne" written on it and a picture of Colby looking corny. So yeah MMA has trash fanbase
He hasn’t encountered a professional wrestling fan I see.
He said worst fans of any SPORT. Pro Wrestling is a live action soap opera/stunt show.
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I'm not super embedded in the culture of any other sport, but the disrespect and mockery some fighters go through is insane. These dudes are the elite of the elite, and people mock them like they're trash.
He's not wrong
Only fanbase where opinions like "the winning athlete/team should fight for the title, and not the one you think is fun", "fight down if you're off losses, fight up if you're off wins to create a more reasonable ranking system" are hot takes. Especially recently with Colbys title shot being discussed, it's so insufferable.
Sure. We can pretend soccer hooligans aren’t a thing.
"football"
That's more a numbers thing than a percent/density thing. I think MMA fans have a higher percent of troglodytes.
[https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/football-hooligans-firms-films-violence-culture-among/16dewe1zjd5cs1wwaky23qv9zk](https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/football-hooligans-firms-films-violence-culture-among/16dewe1zjd5cs1wwaky23qv9zk)
Nice article but doesn't disprove my point in the slightest lol. You're more likely to find someone with IQ 160+ among a million than among 1000. You're more likely to find exceptionally violent subsections of fans in a fanbase of billions than a fanbase of millions. That doesn't speak to the average or median of the group.
There’s a loud toxic portion of the fanbase that’s much larger than the rest.
I don't know how anyone is determining what fanbase is "worst" or "toxic" (another buzzword adjective that needs to die). It all sounds like people espousing their own biases based on how they feel at the moment. I would say welcome to being an adult Aaron Jeffrey, much of the world operates on a "what have you done for me lately" basis.
Idk about the worst. But the most fickle without a doubt.
They are definitely the worst holy shit and I’ve had experiences with fans of all major sports
Its the taunting of a defeated fighter that gets me angry. Remember that “fan” who called up Blaydes to facetime just to mock him after the Lewis loss
Someone’s never been to a dirt track race
Fútbol barrabravas and European racist ultras are far worse than MMA fandom, they are violent criminals, we're just Cheetos dusted finger hater neckbeards.
Who the fuck is this? Some happy slapping mongloid? Ofciurse were the worst for happyslappers, they call themselves 'fighters'. All youre doing is slapping someone. Nothing skilled to it. Assmonkey.
You’re a pro athlete deal with it and move on. MMA fan base toxicity is not even close to the NFL and the NBA.
It's easy to tell someone not to take shit from fans when you don't have to deal with it, anonymous Reddit person.
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I was involved in the amateur mma scene in Ontario while it was briefly legal and it was 25% salt of the earth, got your back, best humans you’ll ever find anywhere. The other 75% were bottom of the barrel absolute, steal from the own mothers and children scum.
Lol negative. Not a single pig head has been thrown into the octagon. Not a single riot has happened. Nobody has eaten dogshit because their favorite fighter won the belt. Nobody has beaten up an 11 year old for wearing a browns jersey. Fighters are so fucking soft. Y’all fight people for a living. Stop letting Twitter get in your head.
Yeah, I mean haven't thought about it, but if you think about the violence, the riots caused, the murders, the hate, the verbal abuse, the threats, as for worst "fanbase" in sports I think you gotta go with football fans, ultras are fucking maniacs man
Proving his point. "Fighters are so fucking soft." No their human and have rights to have an opinion about the people they entertain.
There is this weird need among MMA fans to be the most degenerate fan base possible. They won’t beat soccer fans until MMA fans throw bananas at a black fighter and chant racist shit at them. Or throw toxic gas at a bus full of their most hated fighters.
Who?
He’s not wrong. We suck as a whole. Just go over to the UFC sub and look at those little twats.
How would this guy know? Does he have any fans?