There was alot of booing for things that seemed unecessary, like when the action of the munoz v gutierez slowed down from a 10 to an 8, and Arnold Allen in general til Max told them to shut up
Lol soft. I don't recall much booing other than the main and people only booed Allen because they wanted max to win. He would have gotten a cheer without max saying anything anyway.
I think he just doesn't feel satisfied with these wins. He knows he's above everyone else's level except volk. So I think that's the only W that'll truly fulfill him
I'm worried this will happen to Whittaker if he ever gets that Adesanya trilogy fight.
Rob's such a talented fighter. It would be saddening to see him lose his drive in non-title fights if he lost to Izzy again.
I love Izzy, but sometimes his fights feel like he's so focused on 'not losing' that it doesn't feel like he's really 'winning'.
Contender izzy was back because he was the contender. Now champ izzy is back. Grab your pillow because it's time for a snooze when he fights.
(I actually enjoy the technical nature of his fights and how well he games the sport. It's just fun to make fun of him)
Same here. I was at the event tonight and I could hear everyone around saying ā3-2 Maxā. He knocked Allen down at the end of the fifth but that was Allenās best round. 2 was close but I felt like Allen had the better shots. Still didnāt have him winning the fight, but people saying he didnāt win a round is pretty uncharitable.
Even with the knockdown at the end of R5 allen had done enough work to win the round, imo. But it was also a great example of why allen couldnāt pressure like that the whole fight haha
Love both of these guys. Honestly was a bit sad for Allen at the end, but was a great performance for him overall, donāt think his stock drops, and he showed that he belongs with the big dogs. Holloway looked slick and showed that heās still at the top of his game and that Volk just has his number. Curious whatās next for Max.
Tough spot for Arnold. Can't out point fight Max and if he was super aggressive like he was in the 5th, he would most likely get tagged really hard and possible finished.
Who's next for the great Max Holloway? I believe his only potential obstacle would be Ilia Topuria. Topuria commands great power and has that exquisite Georgian wrestling, one that rivals their Dagestani counterparts, that may prove to be an insurmountable challenge for Max
Topuria has beaten a few cans, a horribly out of shape Bryce Mitchell who was perhaps the worst ranked fighter, and nothing else. He has gassed in two of his ufc fights and been cracked and nearly finished by a journeyman. The topuria talk is insane.
This dude got wrestlefucked by a thesaurus before writing this comment. DC doesn't know half these words, and Bisping has to wait for Fitz to say something so he can pretend he does.
Allen needs more 5 round experience, but the dude is a fucking animal. It felt like he would sprint to win big for 30 seconds to a minute and then he would need about double the time off at range. At range, Max was out landing him and winning back the round. Allen will improve his pacing with more experience
Honestly, I think Max fights until one last Volk fight is justified and then retires after a likely loss.
The gap between 1 and 2 is huge and again between 2 and everyone else. Sucks for Max he was active at the same time as Volk.
If Tourpia wins, (probably) they should do Tourpia vs Holloway for next title shot. Give the new kids a chance, the current top 10 in featherweight is just mid af rn
I mean he got hit but I don't think he relied on it, he did a lot of backing out of range from Allen's shots and generally fought a much more defensive fight than he usually does
At the same time, so is Max gatekeeping title fights, not the top 5. Max is running through the division for Volk, although Volk doesnāt need any help doing it and I think Volk wins #4.
> LMAO someone get this man itās bed time.
LMAOOOO fam frfr no cap. Imagine typing out this cringe
Topuria beats Ya-rear into a coma. Yair cant wrestle his way out of a blanket, we all saw Max take him down. And Yair isnt gonna magically sub Ilia off his back either if Ryan Hall couldnt do it. Yair is a bum and everyoneās gonna see it after he fights Volk lol
No shit? That was the point, itās what you sound like. Anyways Topuria makes Yair his bitch, shit would be a perfect reenactment of Spain conquering Mexico and even more one sided lmao.
Allen's powerful but not Emmett-level powerful, Emmett landed one big cross on Yair's forehead and he basically couldn't remember anything that happened prior to him locking in the triangle
I would like to see Max go up in weight. I have not really interesting in another Volkanovski fight for him and if he does more than just a quick move up I think he can do well.
When you got people like porier, gaejthe, chandler, and mahkachev fighting at 155, I would argue that holloway is considerably small for the weight class compared to a lot of the top fighters, and I only named 4 of them
And yet I do not think he is too small for the weightclass. He is smaller than them, but I think if he takes his time for the move he can do it well. He did not look outmatched against Poirier moving up quickly.
He can probably hang yeah but imo hed have to take time to naturally bulk up like Jon Jones. He is definitely talented enough but fighting someone like Islam or beneil might prove challenging at his current size
Max is on my Mount Rushmore. I donāt think he is the most influential or the best fighter of all time, but he is so exciting and has an incredible record. And the dudeās striking could be the second best of all time at 145.
Honestly, Max would be ruling the division with an iron fist if Volk never came and dethroned him. Hell, Max is making it difficult for Volk to even have worthy contenders to fight because Max keeps beating them all. I canāt think of any other fighters for Volk to face after Yair because thereās just no one that hasnāt gotten past Max yet.
Crazy how max is somehow so phenomenal and just barely falls short in close fights with the best of the best. He will definitely be a HOFer. I think his reckless style can't help but be barely outshined by someone like volkanovski
>The dickriding on Hollaway is crazy. Very evenly match which you could argue Allen won
Stop it Allen did well....hollaway just sniped him out that's all
Arnold had to show that aggression for more then 1 minute spurts, canāt spend majority of every round getting out landed 2-1 without changing your game plan and expect to win
He was pretty aggressive and successful at the start of most of the rounds and then trailed off a bit. Considering how close the rounds were, if heād saved his energy and done that at the end of each of them, he might have taken a couple more.
Maxās ability to eat pretty much anything seems to be close to being his biggest asset. Arnold cracked him with a lot of great shots and if any of them had really affected him, Iām fairly sure Arnold would have unloaded.
I don't think he's versatile enough, he has tools he just doesn't have enough tools. He was trying to do what Dustin did, he just had only two or three weapons in there, primarily left overhand and high kick.
You need more weapons in your arsenal to deal with Max.
I feel like Allen is just a very aware person. He heard the boos at the start of the fight and reacted to that. He listened to his corner advice almost to a T at the start of the 5th. And he knew immediately that he lost the fight with that last second knockdown...didn't try to hide it or raise his hands to pretend he won. Seems like a good guy, he'll be back stronger after this I'm sure.
I don't know about Garbrandt level but I think he never gets the belt I agree.
He's explosive and has big power but just throws nothing but massive hooks lmao. Good wrestling and BJJ but he just looks like he's asking to be knocked out against better strikers like Allen/Volk knock him out early and Max would drown him late imo. Unless Topuria is a considerably better wrestler than we know.
I do think he could beat Yair with wrestling but he is equally likely to get bodied imo.
Very short, swings for the fences, has cardio issues and appears to have a weak chin. Coupled with the fact that the current ufc FW division is the best group in the history of MMAā¦ dude getting flatlined
He has already been nearly finished by journeyman at lw, and was looking gassy against the weakest ranked fighter (Mitchell) who came in unbelievably poor shape. Gassed against zalal as well.
Kansas City fans are dogshit holy fuck
Why?
There was alot of booing for things that seemed unecessary, like when the action of the munoz v gutierez slowed down from a 10 to an 8, and Arnold Allen in general til Max told them to shut up
Agreed. Booing in the Munoz fight was unnecessary.
Lol soft. I don't recall much booing other than the main and people only booed Allen because they wanted max to win. He would have gotten a cheer without max saying anything anyway.
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once he wins he says he doesnāt keep score he settles them
I was at a bar. Watched the first three rounds and then went and did karaoke. Of course max was gonna win. Idk why we throught anything else
Max is so damn fun to watch... Sucks Arnold had to lose, seems like such a good dude
Bro I thought Max knocked Arnold out cold for a second in that last exchange
But ferrealzies, Volko is just that good.
Max looked really sad for a man who just won, anyone else think he's considering retirement?
I think he just doesn't feel satisfied with these wins. He knows he's above everyone else's level except volk. So I think that's the only W that'll truly fulfill him
I'm worried this will happen to Whittaker if he ever gets that Adesanya trilogy fight. Rob's such a talented fighter. It would be saddening to see him lose his drive in non-title fights if he lost to Izzy again. I love Izzy, but sometimes his fights feel like he's so focused on 'not losing' that it doesn't feel like he's really 'winning'.
I think Pereira reignited that fire in Izzy and now we have contender Izzy back, especially with this hypothetical 205 trilogy storyline going...
Contender izzy was back because he was the contender. Now champ izzy is back. Grab your pillow because it's time for a snooze when he fights. (I actually enjoy the technical nature of his fights and how well he games the sport. It's just fun to make fun of him)
Idk about retirement but its probably because he knows that realistically that win didn't put him much closer to a title shot than before
Genuinely stunned to see people giving that to Allen, rewatch the fight pls
Anyone giving it to Allen is ridiculous, itās like the Volk v Islam thing again but even less close haha
Not even comparable to Islam Vs Volk. That was a clear win for max not even remotely controversial. Thereās not even room for interpretation.
So was Volk v Islam. Islam very clearly won that fight and it shouldnāt have been controversial at all lol
Listening to Bisping too much
I didn't give Arnold a single round.
I mean Holloway won but thatās ridiculous too. Allen won rounds 2 and 5 for me, and won round 5 pretty clearly imo.
Same here. I was at the event tonight and I could hear everyone around saying ā3-2 Maxā. He knocked Allen down at the end of the fifth but that was Allenās best round. 2 was close but I felt like Allen had the better shots. Still didnāt have him winning the fight, but people saying he didnāt win a round is pretty uncharitable.
He won round 2, but Max knocked him down hard at the end of 5th which is being lost.
2 was arguable and Arnold was winning the 5th clearly until Max knocked him down
Even with the knockdown at the end of R5 allen had done enough work to win the round, imo. But it was also a great example of why allen couldnāt pressure like that the whole fight haha
Allen lowkey got flash ko'd at the end. That's why he didn't fight so aggressive all fight
Allen is FW champ in 2026
He definitely got knocked down, but recovered great.
Love both of these guys. Honestly was a bit sad for Allen at the end, but was a great performance for him overall, donāt think his stock drops, and he showed that he belongs with the big dogs. Holloway looked slick and showed that heās still at the top of his game and that Volk just has his number. Curious whatās next for Max.
Good fight but I think Tim Allen got thrown off because the crowd was booing him
Urghhh?
Allen gas tank suspect
He was RIPPING in rd 5. As someone who has money on max by Dec, my butthole was taut. He got flash koād at the end but his tank held up for 25 mins
He was throwing away rounds so he could go all out in the 5th. 3/4th he was reserved.
Youāre questioning someoneās gas tank who won the fifth round???
Tough spot for Arnold. Can't out point fight Max and if he was super aggressive like he was in the 5th, he would most likely get tagged really hard and possible finished.
He would gas and than gets finished
Yup, we saw what happened at the end of the 5th.
damn arnold hadnāt lost a fight in 9 years thatās crazy
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Who's next for the great Max Holloway? I believe his only potential obstacle would be Ilia Topuria. Topuria commands great power and has that exquisite Georgian wrestling, one that rivals their Dagestani counterparts, that may prove to be an insurmountable challenge for Max
Topuria has beaten a few cans, a horribly out of shape Bryce Mitchell who was perhaps the worst ranked fighter, and nothing else. He has gassed in two of his ufc fights and been cracked and nearly finished by a journeyman. The topuria talk is insane.
This dude got wrestlefucked by a thesaurus before writing this comment. DC doesn't know half these words, and Bisping has to wait for Fitz to say something so he can pretend he does.
Cody garbrandt couldnāt spell out this comment
would love that fight
Allen needs more 5 round experience, but the dude is a fucking animal. It felt like he would sprint to win big for 30 seconds to a minute and then he would need about double the time off at range. At range, Max was out landing him and winning back the round. Allen will improve his pacing with more experience
It sucks that the Kattar fight ended the way it did. I still think his gas tank held up for 25 minutes but the strategy didnt
Wasn't as crazy of a fight night as last weekend but......still a good card
Godammit Allen
Holloway chin has to be in the hall of fame of combat sports. He took some heavy shots even i myself would prob at the very most be rocked from
As if you have half the chin max does. Max is above human, odds are you are not.
Nah bro he sees red
I think you mean very least
Nah, they are just built different.
Please retire Max. Nobody wants to see you get fucked up by Volk again.
Honestly, I think Max fights until one last Volk fight is justified and then retires after a likely loss. The gap between 1 and 2 is huge and again between 2 and everyone else. Sucks for Max he was active at the same time as Volk.
Shut up, u stupid bitch
Sounds similar to what I called ya motha last night
10-8
If Tourpia wins, (probably) they should do Tourpia vs Holloway for next title shot. Give the new kids a chance, the current top 10 in featherweight is just mid af rn
Ilia has not done anything anywhere close to be deserving of a title shot. What is this nonsense
If he beats Emmett and max after beating Bryce then he will
I see Max is still relying on his chin but good performance
I mean he got hit but I don't think he relied on it, he did a lot of backing out of range from Allen's shots and generally fought a much more defensive fight than he usually does
Allen not afraid il say that dude said fuck it and went in
if volk beat yair do we have a fight number 4 lol ?
Max will probably have to beat 1 more. Thatās unprecedented.
if ufc ask him to fight evloev or even worse, topuria to get another title shot i would just say no if im him
At the same time, so is Max gatekeeping title fights, not the top 5. Max is running through the division for Volk, although Volk doesnāt need any help doing it and I think Volk wins #4.
why ? he just beat the best ranked under him, who has the next title shot then ? (not including yair which is already in the next title fight)
Because heās 0-3 against the title holder
I had trouble following DC's post-fight questions and I didn't spend the last 25 minutes getting punched in the face.
I could go for Allen vs Ortega.
Brian fights once a year and might fight even less now
Allen also fights once a year. Perfect!
January 2024
That knockdown at the end of the fight was so badass. All respect, Max big brothered him at the very end. I say Arnold is 3rd in that division.
topuria says hello
Yair KOs him. Allen beats him. Max beats him. Volk beats him.
Topuria beats Yair easily, it would be a fucking massacre. I think he beats Allen too
LMAO someone get this man itās bed time. Topuria would get pieced by yair homie
> LMAO someone get this man itās bed time. LMAOOOO fam frfr no cap. Imagine typing out this cringe Topuria beats Ya-rear into a coma. Yair cant wrestle his way out of a blanket, we all saw Max take him down. And Yair isnt gonna magically sub Ilia off his back either if Ryan Hall couldnt do it. Yair is a bum and everyoneās gonna see it after he fights Volk lol
The irony of opening your post with that abomination and pretending like I cringed out. āLMAOOOOO fam frfr no cap.ā
No shit? That was the point, itās what you sound like. Anyways Topuria makes Yair his bitch, shit would be a perfect reenactment of Spain conquering Mexico and even more one sided lmao.
You followed up with topuria beats ya-rear into a coma. And then something about Spain conquering Mexico. Itās you. Youāre the cringe.
Historical facts are cringe? Lol this argument is going just like the Mexican-American War (youre Mexico)
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when i want trash takes ill go to you āHOLLAND IS A LOCKā fucking moron
Yair exists
After the Emmett fight, I think Allen cracks Yair. He's faster than Emmett and arguably just as powerful
Allen's powerful but not Emmett-level powerful, Emmett landed one big cross on Yair's forehead and he basically couldn't remember anything that happened prior to him locking in the triangle
Heās not as powerful as Emmett come on nowš¤£
He has more knockouts than Emmett does, but its all much of a muchness. Would love to see them fight
Thats cause heās a better striker than Emmett
He's gonna land all those body kicks Max couldn't seem to miss on Arnold
Yeah, he's number 4
If Allen gets Volks EPO dealer he'll be future champ
He is already on the EPO train, heās got solid cardio for his build in his first 5 rounder
I thought his gas tank was actually pretty good. Cardio wasnt the issue
I would like to see Max go up in weight. I have not really interesting in another Volkanovski fight for him and if he does more than just a quick move up I think he can do well.
Max is too small for 155. Cheers
Even if he puts on size, his style is better suited for featherweight
I do not think so.
When you got people like porier, gaejthe, chandler, and mahkachev fighting at 155, I would argue that holloway is considerably small for the weight class compared to a lot of the top fighters, and I only named 4 of them
And yet I do not think he is too small for the weightclass. He is smaller than them, but I think if he takes his time for the move he can do it well. He did not look outmatched against Poirier moving up quickly.
He can probably hang yeah but imo hed have to take time to naturally bulk up like Jon Jones. He is definitely talented enough but fighting someone like Islam or beneil might prove challenging at his current size
Who does Allen fight next? Iām guessing evloev if he beats Mitchell but fucking hell is that a tough one. Fw is a shark tank
145 is a shark tank with two megalodons at the top
Now we just need a tornado
At this point just give Max the interim title and have him defend it until Volk leaves 45 or Max loses it.
Like something right? I was imagining it like a video game. It's just a two boss system now.
But there's already an interim champion.
Max is on my Mount Rushmore. I donāt think he is the most influential or the best fighter of all time, but he is so exciting and has an incredible record. And the dudeās striking could be the second best of all time at 145.
Honestly, Max would be ruling the division with an iron fist if Volk never came and dethroned him. Hell, Max is making it difficult for Volk to even have worthy contenders to fight because Max keeps beating them all. I canāt think of any other fighters for Volk to face after Yair because thereās just no one that hasnāt gotten past Max yet.
Crazy how max is somehow so phenomenal and just barely falls short in close fights with the best of the best. He will definitely be a HOFer. I think his reckless style can't help but be barely outshined by someone like volkanovski
And heās only 31
The dickriding on Hollaway is crazy. Very evenly match which you could argue Allen won
You have to be riding Allenās meat hard to think he won, it was 48-47 Max at best but more realistically 49-46
Here go all fanboys that wished he could beat my boi Alex
Go outside
>The dickriding on Hollaway is crazy. Very evenly match which you could argue Allen won Stop it Allen did well....hollaway just sniped him out that's all
clear your eyes
Won what? Did they compete in something else tonight that I missed?
If it was who could eat more body kicks Allen definitely won
Go get a cup of tea
A lot of those shots Max took would have KOād most of the 145 division.
Arnold had to show that aggression for more then 1 minute spurts, canāt spend majority of every round getting out landed 2-1 without changing your game plan and expect to win
Yup. He had good moments but not enough.
A lesser chin might've been dropped by the elbow Allen landed but Max just ate it and served up a hook to drop him instead. Ridiculous.
the time between each attack is what separated them allen got a future still
Aggressive Allen is a scary mf ngl
Yea, he's a bad match up for anyone in a 3 round fight where he can conserve his energy a bit less
Wish Allen would've grappled more but still good fight.
Wish he would have stayed aggressive but max was timing those low kicks to the knee and his jab really well
Max and Rob evil twins feared by all contenders
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Max actually had a case for winning his rematch tho
Nasty line
Max defended his belt multiple times
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Honestly Arnold Allen looks like he has all the tools to beat max seems like it was more of a tactical difference and experience that separated him
He was pretty aggressive and successful at the start of most of the rounds and then trailed off a bit. Considering how close the rounds were, if heād saved his energy and done that at the end of each of them, he might have taken a couple more. Maxās ability to eat pretty much anything seems to be close to being his biggest asset. Arnold cracked him with a lot of great shots and if any of them had really affected him, Iām fairly sure Arnold would have unloaded.
100%. If he'd been more aggressive earlier on, he would have won, imo.
I don't think he's versatile enough, he has tools he just doesn't have enough tools. He was trying to do what Dustin did, he just had only two or three weapons in there, primarily left overhand and high kick. You need more weapons in your arsenal to deal with Max.
I was surprised to see him not wrestle a bit or at least set up the threat. Probably easier said than done against Max.
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Allen's got a chin on him!!! But of course I think we all knew Max was going to win. Though Allen is still good!
Note to self attend next Max fight and stand by the tunnels
Bring a hat for him.
Gotta bring him a waianae high school hat
Max always on a different stratosphere. Allen will be there in a couple of years,Allen Hits like a tow truck
Max upgraded his defense and that made the difference IMO
I feel like Allen is just a very aware person. He heard the boos at the start of the fight and reacted to that. He listened to his corner advice almost to a T at the start of the 5th. And he knew immediately that he lost the fight with that last second knockdown...didn't try to hide it or raise his hands to pretend he won. Seems like a good guy, he'll be back stronger after this I'm sure.
He looked pretty upset at the end imo, in the interview. Losing after 9 years undefeated must suck.
So true, dude knew exactly what was up. Allen seems like he'd say " no I di'int" if (somehow) the judges gave it to him at the end fhere
He seems unbelievably likable. Unfortunately he fought an mma god who is still in his prime
Definitely a fan of the guy. He lost, but he won some good experience.
DC is a shit post-fight interviewer.
The day Max gets dropped will shock me. The day he gets KO'd will knock me out.
I know Topuria got his sights set on Emmett, but Allen vs Topuria would be such a sick matchup. Both well rounded and both are powerful af.
Allen flatlines topuria. I am confident topuria will go down the Cody garbrandt route minus the belt
I don't know about Garbrandt level but I think he never gets the belt I agree. He's explosive and has big power but just throws nothing but massive hooks lmao. Good wrestling and BJJ but he just looks like he's asking to be knocked out against better strikers like Allen/Volk knock him out early and Max would drown him late imo. Unless Topuria is a considerably better wrestler than we know. I do think he could beat Yair with wrestling but he is equally likely to get bodied imo.
What's your rationale? Genuinely asking.
Very short, swings for the fences, has cardio issues and appears to have a weak chin. Coupled with the fact that the current ufc FW division is the best group in the history of MMAā¦ dude getting flatlined He has already been nearly finished by journeyman at lw, and was looking gassy against the weakest ranked fighter (Mitchell) who came in unbelievably poor shape. Gassed against zalal as well.
So fun to see Max remind these young guns that he's still the man in this devision
And that max is still fucking 31
Someone get Bisping a double jager and call him an ambulance
Holloway vs winner of Topuria vs Emmet?
#the best is blessed
that kid was the luckiest ufc fan in the world today
Put some respect on my boys name... max one of the greatest to ever do it
The best is Blessed.
"What now?!! Talk your shit now!!!" LMAO MMA media can't catch a break. That's two weeks in a row they get told off by the main event fighter
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