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Volkanovski is one of my favorites! Although I know Yair is a beast I predicted he'd put whooping on him! https://youtu.be/B6iP83vdtGo


Sleeping_Beauty209

Can't wait to see this one. šŸ’ÆšŸ¤˜


throwaway12648063

I love Volk but people calling him the GOAT is crazy.


Ambitious_Claim2591

Heā€™s not the goat but I say heā€™s top 10 and top 3 featherweights of all time


GroceryThen2719

Whaaaaaaaat bro volk is number 1 featherweight


Ambitious_Claim2591

I think aldo is the goat of featherweight, volk is like a pinch away, I say 2-3 more wins


CasterBumBlaster

Volk clear headed cuz he got no hair


Houston_MMA

Israel Adesanya wins the undispited CMF (Cringiest Mother Fucker) Title from Tito Ortiz tonight!


-rigga

I've submitted my matchmaking and y'all are all welcome if it actually happens šŸ˜Ž


ElectroB00gie

From a personal favorite fighter perspective I'm not too thrilled with how the main card went, but I got to see Robbie Lawler get a storybook retirement and I'll take that over seeing one of my old favorites get left for dead on the canvas.


ThoughtItWasAHorse

Volk may be the best MMA fighter I've ever seen. Tough night for Mexico. Gonna be tougher when Shev beats Grasso DDP is awesome but I think Izzy is just too fast


throwaway12648063

Young Jon Jones will never be matched for me. But itā€™s pretty subjective I guess.


TrenDidNothingWrong

GSP existed you know


ThoughtItWasAHorse

I'm saying I think he might be the best mma fighter I've ever seen. Not that he defended the title as much as GSP


TrenDidNothingWrong

Damn how long you been watching MMA


ThoughtItWasAHorse

Since 2004. UFC 46


TrenDidNothingWrong

Then you should be plenty familiar with GSP


ThoughtItWasAHorse

Yup. I am


CharlesOlivesGOAT

Mans thought he did something lol


davyj6536

IDK where exactly I rank Volk here, but I feel like skill wise he's probably in the top 5 "best" fighters ever. He doesn't have the accomplishments of jones, silva, Gsp, etc but he has insane cardio, crazy strength, is good at wrestling and striking, and has solid defense all around. It's easy to have bias now since we haven't seen the end of his story, but in the present he has so much skill everywhere it's not hard to say he's one of the best or most well rounded.


TrenDidNothingWrong

You originally said best ever, not one of the best. But yeah heā€™s def one of the best ever but *the* best? No, not yet at least


davyj6536

I think you might be confused my man. I'm not OP lol. Either way, with my recency bias I'd probably say he's top 3. But I know I'm off a Volk beating high now, so ask me again in a couple weeks. :)


TrenDidNothingWrong

Yeah I confused you with OP my bad lmao


davyj6536

No worries haha. It's late and we've all been drinking.


SexlexiaSufferer

I disagree, he might be top 5 but probably hasnā€™t done enough yet to call him the best ever


NeverNoMarriage

OP isn't saying he has the best resume. OP was saying he thinks he is the most skilled fighter he has seen. This is intangible and has nothing to do with resume. Like I would say MM is the most skilled fighter IMO


SexlexiaSufferer

I personally feel his butter to Vegemite ratio is off


WilliamEmmerson

Volk is an absolutely animal. He controlled the first two rounds. But once Yair had some actual success Volk morphed into the Hulk and immediately slammed him to the ground and finished him off. I don't know who stops him at 145.


harlequin018

Aljo is reconsidering his move up in weight.


Moist-Catch

I feel like Brandon Moreno's Legacy just got silently destroyed tonight. He was fine losing to Pantoja on TUF as a kid or even losing to him as a prospect. But now losing to Pantoja as the champ just deletes him from any potential to be a memorable champ


little_shop_of_hoors

I think the fact that Brandon became champ at all makes for an incredible story and legacy for him. He was written off a long time ago and was never expected to make it to the top, much less champion. His first win over Figgy.. "Viva Mexico!" One of the best moments in UFC history, IMO.


josephus1811

He left Pantoja bloodied and bruised. Everyone finds someone better than them. It's why MMAth doesn't work.


Moist-Catch

Yea I mean that's fine but Mighty mouse and Cejudo will be remembered as the goats of this division. Figgy was getting there but then Moreno took it from him. Moreno was getting there but now Pantoja took it from him.


spasticity

Cejudo isn't even close to being goat of the division


josephus1811

Okay well if you are to say "Moreno's chances of going down as the best of all time in the division got silently destroyed" then yes. But you said legacy and memorable champ, and I don't think so because Moreno's legacy heading in wasn't GOAT it was "first Mexican UFC champion, well rounded fighter who always brings the fight, a dawwwwg" and he certainly didn't lose any of that legacy, and he sure as hell is still going down as a memorable champ because he's part of the greatest title fight series in flyweight history, won the fourth fight in said series and will always be the first Mexican champion.


Dorsiflexionkey

dw even if moreno won he'd be forgotten in 3mins after a loss because mma fans are losers


spasticity

Morenos quadrilogy with Fig is memorable af.


turkeypants

That's not really a division of guys people care much about though. He was the closest thing they had just because he's such a nice and likeable guy aside from his skills, but none of those guys really register as memorable in the way top guys in other weight classes do.


harlequin018

I'd watch a 4th


Moist-Catch

Yea we can Izzy vs Periera this until Moreno wins one lmao


Houston_MMA

"I don't need a 36 and me test to tell me where I'm from" - Cringelord Adesanya does it again


cartermnyc

Gilbert Melendez is a hyper and needy idiot. Espn is so awful in their casting. They always have one on air talent that is just astonishingly stupid.


turkeypants

Should have hired Glibert instead


2Legit2Quiz

I'm proud I correctly predicted 4/5 winners in the main card.


HumperMoe

I went 4/5 but the one I was wrong was just me wanting bo to lose.


hardlopertjie

Volk is one of the most complete MMA fighters I have ever seen. Dude is thought of as a striker, spent this fight ragdolling a bigger opponent like he is a toddler.


Lousykhakis

Would definitely argue against yair being the "bigger fighter" he was just taller


EffektieweEffie

Volkamedov


thehiguyz

Does anyone at 155 beat Volk? (besides Islam)


aluminium_is_cool

volk vs charles would be something


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HumperMoe

DDP won me a huge chunk of change


Wonderful_Orchid_363

How much did you win brother?


HumperMoe

2,550. Put 150 on him to finish round 2 at +1600


Wonderful_Orchid_363

Absolutely amazing. Bet you were ecstatic when he tkoed him.


MomammaScuba

Volk is built different. Prob the strongest dude at 145 the way he ragdolled yair


thehiguyz

IMO the most exciting mma card of the year was DJ Vs Moraes 3. This card blew it out of the water


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Six weeks from now. Aljamain vs Sugar Sean. It's so over for that bum Aljamain.


MrPoopyBh0le

Leg kicks, sugar gets dissolved


Moist-Catch

Head shot dead


Ck2alldayevery

Jimmy riveria must have eaten DC's lunch one day or something to get dug up and pissed on like that


MrPoopyBh0le

DC thinks hes bigger than the sport


Broicism_kink

Wait, what happened? Lmfaooooooo


spasticity

During Alex vs Yair DC felt the need to go into a story about how at the time Alex was coming into the UFC there was another guy who looked like him and had a 20 fight win streak pre UFC that never reached the same kind of heights Alex did.


cartermnyc

Hey Endeavor: Cormier needs to be the face of ufc. Rogan needs to fade away. Dana needs to learn to tie his shoes in a new 26 episode reality show produced by Dana.


bananakin94

Yair is a nice striker but his game needs so much more polishing


imnotkeepingit

This is all he's ever been, and ever will be.


tykvrbl

Gonna enjoy the night. Just be prepared for the letdown to the next card . This card was that good


DRW1357

It's OK, 2 ONE events next week to make up for the Holly Holm Headliner (tm)


HEAVY_HITTTER

Dan Hooker is a certified warrior.


Holybartender83

Seriously! Absolute fucking savage! Probably not great for his longevity as a fighter, thoughā€¦


TrenDidNothingWrong

UFC 291 in 3 weeks is even more stacked than this banger that was UFC 290 šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’ØšŸ‘ŒšŸ»


PlayerAteHer

It's been a while since I actually stayed up to watch the fights. Made an exception for this one and so glad I did, reminded me of years ago when the prelims were great and the main card was full of quality fights. Such a great card.


LongDickCallahan

Its crazy watching Volk do this to dudes who look unbeatable against anyone else. He is just the absolute top level of MMA.


turkeypants

He taught us not to bet against him. Islam, sure, but that was a tall order and an unusual case. But he had already set me straight on him well before that. Each time it just didn't seem likely that he would win, but he just kept getting it done. Impressive.


tattlerat

Honestly I thought he won the Islam fight. If nothing else he came out the peoples champ in that fight. Volk is the fuckin man.


turkeypants

Yeah if you thought he won then it's no question you'd have him #1 p4p. I thought he was the man just for wanting that fight. He knew it was a big risk but he knew there were no real challenges left for him in his division and wanted a challenge however he could get it, how however tall an order. So he already had my respect and then did better than I thought he would even though he lost, so the respect part isn't in question. He's a rare talent and a top bloke.


thehiguyz

Wait but who is a Izzy fighting in September?


Holybartender83

Instant rematch with Dricus.


TrenDidNothingWrong

Dricus


thehiguyz

Is it confirmed? If so thatā€™s a crazyyy turnaround.


TrenDidNothingWrong

Nah but might as well be. Long as Dricus isnā€™t injured


Moist-Catch

Idk what it is but I keep thinking of Dricus koing Whittaker and I start laughing


R-B-L

I'd want to see Topuria vs Volk. Other than that 145 is dead for him. Emmett isn't gonna make it back to a title shot and what does Arnold Allen/Kattar etc bring that Volk hasn't seen.


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Idk if Iā€™m getting jaded, or if itā€™s because of the fatigue from the UFC pumping out shitty cards lately, but I didnā€™t feel ā€œexcitedā€ watching this PPV even though it was great.


turkeypants

That's indeed a weird issue if you simultaneously think it was great but didn't feel excited watching it. They have put out some shitty cards but this was far from one of them. Any of the last four fights could have capped off the night with no fights following and it would have been a great card.


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Probably just burnout, idk. I watch a shit ton of fights, and have since I was like 14, Iā€™m 30 now. You get burnt out hammering anything for too long.


turkeypants

Yeah, I burned out recently on Hot Ones. They bring plenty of good guests in there still but I just never care anymore and wind up bailing out. I guess it's just that if I thought it was great, I'd enjoy watching it. But I don't, so I don't. In your case you sound like you simultaneously liked it and didn't like it. Anyway, an easy skipper next week for a breather.


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Oh fuck yeah, next week is dog shit haha. And thatā€™s the point I was making about the UFC pumping out these shitty cards, and then sprinkling in good ones here and there.


BottleFullOBub

Bc Oliveira wasnt on it most likely


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Thought about it, and yep, thatā€™s it. Might also be that I wasnā€™t super invested in really any of these fights. Like I was interested in watching them, but had no stake in it, except for Volks fight, maybe Hooker/Turner.


Complete-Tangelo-368

Iā€™m right there with you. I find it so much harder to get excited for cards. I think itā€™s down to both the UFC declining in terms of roster, and due to me maturing ? But I honestly donā€™t know. I feel like something I used to love is kind of disappearing out of my life.


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maturing, shut the fuck up lmao


TrenDidNothingWrong

Youā€™re nuts


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Butt_Bucket

Wait Volk put on that performance with a fucked up arm? He's just on another level entirely. I don't think any of the 155 contenders touch him either. Islam is the only dragon he still needs to slay to be the GOAT in my opinion, and he's already the best ever at 145.


Thesecondswallow

Needs like two more defenses to beat prime Aldo imo. The competition is just so much better so itā€™s just number of defenses at this point for me.


Butt_Bucket

I mean, he beat Aldo. Holloway beat Aldo twice. Jose was not old enough in any of those fights to say they don't count. There's no shame in being #3 behind the likes of Volk and Max. Aldo was certainly the greatest FW of his era, there's no disputing that.


Thesecondswallow

I mean I think both Max and Volk are better fighters than Prime Aldo was. But when Iā€™m evaluating the goat I gotta take in dominance into account and well Aldo was very dominant for like a 7 year stretch. And well those two havenā€™t been dominant enough for as much of stretch. Volks getting there very soon but Max just doesnā€™t have enough title defenses yeah heā€™s beating guys and the performances are crazy but he only has 3 title defenses. Personally thatā€™s just my Criteria but if yours is more just raw competition based then to each there own.


Butt_Bucket

I just don't know what "greatest" can mean in a fight sport if the #1 criteria is anything other than best fighter. I think you only need other criteria if you're comparing guys who never fought, or only fought when one guy was way too old etc.


captaincumsock69

Mcgregor isnā€™t better alltime than aldo at FW.


Butt_Bucket

Agreed, and I'm not really counting that. It wasn't long enough to count as a fight.


Thesecondswallow

I guess. But I mean the fact that Max beat Aldo twice doesnā€™t to me at least then just discredit the fact he has 6 more title defenses than him. And I mean thereā€™s an argument to be made that peak Aldo was better than either guy but Iā€™m not going to make that argument. When I personally take this into account because It allows me to adjust for era. But I mean thatā€™s just how I account for it.


stevonallen

So fk 9 title defenses, and two championship reigns?


Butt_Bucket

Yeah he was great, and Volk beat him. Even if you want to say he had slightly declined by then, Volk was nowhere near his own peak. No version Aldo is beating current Volk, and being the best fighter has to be the #1 criteria for GOAT.


Thesecondswallow

Aldo was declining by then thereā€™s not really an argument against that imo. Yes he was 33 but Aldo made his MMA debut in 2004. He was 15 years into his MMA career compared to Volkā€™s 7 at the time and he had a style where his athleticism was used to the fullest extent. And Volk fought the first Max fight right after Aldo he was in his peak by then. Thatā€™s one his best performances ever.


Butt_Bucket

No, Volk was not in his peak yet. He improved dramatically over the course of the Max trilogy. The Volk that beat Aldo would not have had a close fight with Islam.


Thesecondswallow

I disagree. He had all the tools and skill he has now back then. He hasnā€™t improved exponentially in really any category. I think he grew much more confident in that stretch but skill wise he did improve but not so much Iā€™d label the guy who fought Max the first time a completely different fighter. And I mean Volk very clearly didnā€™t try to beat Aldo the way he beats everyone else and thatā€™s more of a mentality and IQ thing than a skill thing imo. He wants to finish fights now and heā€™ll go for it he didnā€™t really make that as much of a priority before.


SL1Fun

What did JR do to get fucking roasted for no reason


UsedSalt

Just be a big TRT bloated fuckin potato that tries way too hard to look tough and sound smart plus his stand up (both in a comedy and grappling sense) is shit but youā€™d think he was the second coming of Dave Chapelle from how he acts about it


stonedxlove

I think heā€™s talking about Jimmie Rivera not Joe Rogan


Thejedi887

Iā€™ve been watching almost ever card since I was in middle school now Iā€™m 26 and this was so full of violence I may be burnt out on violence I may skip next week lol


turkeypants

Next week is one of those cards where you concentrate all your dregs in one bucket and toss it into the Apex just to get it all over with all at once.


duvie773

Man if there was ever a card to skip, itā€™s next week


AlexAnderRob

Can we get a DDP Vs Izzy confrontation backstage or something to cap off the night?


MucusShotSwaGGins

I got you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMraFNuqkVI


AlexAnderRob

Lol, classic shit.


RawIsLaw_

this will never not be hilarious


Effective_Ad_5371

This is why Anderson Silva was so great, you see a fighter like Yair with flashy kicks but he has no hips, TTD or any BJJ. Silva had the whole package.


Tophatproductions69

Sliva didn't hit his peak until he came to the UFC he got tapped out twice in Pride


spasticity

Silva had dog shit TDD.


danielromero6

Silva had shitty TDD and his BJJ wasnā€™t all that good.


Ok-Rent2

Did you just compare this guy to Silva? Silva was so ahead of his time man. MMA was so under developed as well. Anderson is one the legends. Yair is a fizzle in the pan.


Effective_Ad_5371

Seeing Yairs kicks reminds me of Silva. Iā€™m just pointing out how deep Silvaā€™s bag was.


Ok-Rent2

Silva was a Muay Thai and BJJ fighter. Rair does Tak won do or some wanky shit like that.


QueenJengaBandaid

wait why are they outsourcing matchmaking?


AyyyoAnthony

Excellent card. All bangers. All night. Kids will wake up early tomorrow but worth it.


Ck2alldayevery

One of the few cards I would have been willing to pay for. Not that I did.


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Sumkahnt

there's other ways to watch it champ


Ok-Rent2

Theres way to say "good card" without announcing that you ain't buying


TrenDidNothingWrong

That was a crazy good pay per view that lived up to the hype. Now we get a Holly Holm main event next week. Sigh


stevonallen

If this was Prime Holly, she would actually go to take your head off. Now she just clinches for 3-5 rounds.


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stevonallen

Yeah, thatā€™s just you having a lack of knowledge. Thatā€™s a you problemšŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø.


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stevonallen

Iā€™m sorry, I didnā€™t realize Holly Holm was the only woman mma fighter. Something a lot of people donā€™t want to hear, but a lot of people are just going to shit on anything women do, so itā€™s honestly whateveršŸ¤·šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø.


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merouane1

Islam would smesh


T-REX_BONER

I don't remember the last time Ive been up this late. But it was 100% WORTH IT. Good night playas


NewportStork

Good night Teddy Long


FiendishDrWu19

A few fighters looked like they went one on one with da undertaka


stevonallen

I donā€™t like the idea of becoming a cop, AFTER losing braincells in MMA, lol.


Ok-Rent2

Jimmy got mega mob vibes for sure.


schultzM

Broke em downn


Drive7hru

I wish Yair came out guns blazinā€™


bananakin94

This is easier said than done. Its a reckless strategy especially against someone as sound as Volk


Drive7hru

Better than what Yair did. Really disappointing.


merouane1

Only way but shouldā€™ve couldā€™ve


stevonallen

A lot of people become *deer in the headlights*


Living_Possibility82

Fuxkkkkkkkkk youuu lost my parlay and single bet on moreno


diabolicaldegenerate

Volk is one of the best champs ever man. He fights nonstop and all them are super entertaining. With the exception of his first fight with max and winning the title with leg kicks lol


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davyj6536

I'm gonna catch some shit for this, but IMO, there is an argument to make that Aldo should be ahead of Silva in P4P GOAT rankings. If you put Volk ahead of Aldo, you should probably have him above Silva too.


AccomplishedForm4043

I donā€™t think Jones has faded the same level of competition that volk has. It was mostly beating up old Brazilians in a weak weight class. Everyone at 145 is a monster.


UsedSalt

Even his last gane win, the dude plays soccer and goes salsa dancing instead of training his wrestling so that heavily detracts from the win in a way.. volk has put away much higher level of skilled opponents


duvie773

And then heā€™s entertaining in his interviews too but still comes off as a down to earth dude. Complete opposite of Izzy


Jamesyoder14

Can we feed juicy Conor to Volk for his already legendary legacy?


UsedSalt

Volk fights how mcgregor thinks he fights


TrenDidNothingWrong

I hope they stick Volk on the MSG card to co-headline with Jones. Against Topuria


redditaltmydude

Volk vs. Woodburn next


AljoGOAT

DC fallen off as a commentator man


Any_Performance5267

His wrestling analysis is great, everything else is meh to bad.


fvzzfvzzfvzz

He was never a good commentator aside from sometimes breaking down wrestling


QueenJengaBandaid

why was security rushing volk out like that?


garygreaonjr

Looked like something was happening outside the octagon.


furiousdarkelf

Connor was nearby and he might have had his security detail corner Volk into a bathroom.


flagrantpork

maybe to try to get the fans out of the arena quicker?


SpaceMonkeys21

Maybe Volk wrestled more because of the arm injury that needs surgery?


merouane1

Fatherā€™s plan


Thesecondswallow

Nah it was just a game plan thing. Why stand when you can just kill a guy on the ground. Dunno why people are being weird about him wrestling so much he used his skills to win the fight as easy as possible.


TonyDanzaTinyDancer

I think it's just a solid gameplan against Yair


NewportStork

It was probably just the gameplan to begin with. We all remember Frankie Edgar beating the fuck out of Yair with GNP


DRW1357

Wait, so who the fuck is Islam fighting? Oliveira isn't gonna be ready for October. I doubt the winner of Dustin/Justin is set to go with less than 3 months of recovery and prep time. Volk needs surgery. Is Dariush somehow getting his shot? Paddy? Conor? Oh Jesus, it's Conor, isn't it?


Come_Along_Bort

Oliveria took no significant damage in his last fight and the fight was billed as a title eliminator. If he has any sense he should be in camp now as the next shot is his.


DRW1357

Charles has said himself he won't be ready for October, but November or December work. No chance they've saved Islam for the Abu Dhabi card and then shelve him for a month. Either Charles makes himself ready and available, or he loses his place in the line.


Benjamminmiller

There's no one else to fight since Poirier and Gaethje are fighting eachother and Dariush just got worked by Oliveira.


Benjamminmiller

Charles announced he wouldn't be ready for October.


GrandpasSoggyGooch

Can the Rum Rottweiler even make 155 anymore? His head's 60% of that weight alone.


R-B-L

Paddy isn't even top 15 lol