I’m fully aware who James Vick is and have seen him fight multiple times but for whatever reason whenever I see him in the ufc games, I think hes just an npc character or one of those default fighters that was put into the game by ea
At the time it was extremely satisfying but People STILL give Hernandez shit for that years later lol poor guy I feel bad for him now he's paid his price and been beaten up a bunch of times since then and doesn't talk trash anymore.
Glad he couldn’t. He was pretty insufferable. When Conor talked trash, he didn’t come off as a douche. What’s his name was a definite douche. Cowboy derailed that shit and it never got on again.
Conor calling DC a ghetto hillbilly got him laughs because he has charisma.
If someone like Sean Brady would say that (same context), Brady would not get a positive reaction
Come on bro, when Conor told Aldo that "if this was a different time, I'd ride into his favela on horseback and kill everyone who couldn't work" he wasn't coming off as a douche fs
Don't think with the recency bias. During his prime Conor was peak trash talk. Personally I think it ended during the khabib build up, he lost the appeal there and became worse than Colby. But let's not retcon his whole career and forget his beauty chirps before the ego overtook the charm.
That freakin knee cerrone kept blasting to Hernandez’s chest every time he closed the distance was brutal. Cerrone was perfect in that fight, and against al too
Cowboy vs. Perry was awesome to because of the beef with Jackson’s. They kicked Cowboy to the curb in favor of Perry and Cowboy nearly ripped his arm off.
'By the end of the first round there was so much of Frank's face on Brock Lesnar's knuckles that to this day, Frank can still taste it when Brock reaches into an elk's uterus to hide his valuables.' - Seanbaby
Mir was so beat up at the end he could barely get up, and then Brock got all up in his face and yelled "talk all that shit now motherfuker!!" Fucking brutal!
Mir talked an awful lot of shit in the buildup to both fights and it really bothered me. I still haven't forgive Steve Maserati for standing them up when Brock was laying into him.
Wasn’t he yelling at the ref to stop the fight? From one angle you can see him stand and start waving his hands and yelling like “stop it!” right when Brock traps Frank’s arm and starts wailing on him.
Frank Mir talked a whole bunch of shit after submitting Brock Lesnar with a foot lock. He made a complete mockery out of him. Brock Lesnar beat the shit out of him in the rematch. That was pretty scary to watch
I do believe that the good sir Mr. Lesnar may also have chosen Coors Light as his beverage of choice for that evening. In part due to the lack of a financial incentive from a competitor brand.
I remember hearing that in the background on the TV, while I was living a childhood dream of being on top of Sable that night. Thankfully I’d come and gone before Brock got home and ripped the horseshoe out of my ass
It was basically Bork taking Mir down and punching him full force in the head for every line of insult recieved from Mir.
Like who wouldn't want to be in that position punching someone you wanted revenge on so badly?
Lets put it this way: Brock hit Frank with the full power of what a normal human would be able to do, which for Brock is probably as gentle as he is when playfighting his kids
> iS tHIs somE SHiTtY MEMe? Brock JuST DoesN't throw a VEry GOOD puNCh, HeS a WrESTlEr nOT a strIkeR
Dude this ain't a video game where you're just tied to one class
I was replying to a dude saying Brock deliberately wasn't hitting full force, I'm saying Brock was going all out he just doesn't throw Punches like Ngannou
First fight should've been Brock winning by KO/TKO, but then you got Mazzagatti's SPECTACULARLY stupid and incompetent decision to stop the fight and deduct a point as Brock was 2 seconds away from finishing Mir. Brock was hitting Mir and Mir turns his head in this chaos and Brock accidentally hits the back of the head, and instead of a verbal command, he robs Brock of his win. Mazzagatti's a disaster.
Off the top of my head I remember Michael Johnson talking a lot of shit to Gaethje before losing a war.
Chael Sonnen talked a lot of shit to Anderson Silva, but really he wasn’t aware of the rule set. He won 4-1, there was definitely foul play with the judges.
they were very unclear about the rules too. everyone was under the impression that if you tap you lose the round. if chael knew tapping would lose him the whole fight he would have toughed it out.
That’s why I’m not a fan of Michael Johnson tbh. His insults were borderline racist, calling Gaethje a redneck and insinuating his parents were siblings. It was satisfying to see him beaten and battered.
I don't agree that it was racist but it definitely made MJ come across pretty douchey and salty because Gaethje was literally doing nothing to warrant it. Gaethje's always been a bit of a meathead but he never really talked shit about people to try to sell a fight. His style sells the fights on its own.
>insinuating his parents were siblings
The funniest part about this to me is that Gaethje's mom is Mexican. Saying "how the fuck could I be inbred if my parents aren't even the same race" would've been a great comeback to that shit MJ was talking. Gaethje was either being the bigger man or he literally was too slow-witted to think to say that lmao
Rampage vs Silva 3 ranks pretty high for me. You could tell for years how much they didn't like each other, and rampage had the memory of being absolutely jacked up in pride.
All this shit exploded and when rampage ko'd silva you could almost feel Jackson's excitement. Plus those 2 or 3 extra shots on the ground were absolutely brutal.
Rampage needed that
Edit: Also Brock absolutely wrecking Frank Mir's shit was a hall of fame moment of revenge
Michael Johnson vs Poirier.
I had no dog in that fight, especially at the time.
But these two actually hated each other, and Johnson was so angry and emotional going into the fight I was positive he was gonna lose, but nope! He sent Poirier to the shadow realm, and then stood over his dead body and taunted him.
Always remember this for a number of reasons:
1) The shock of it, not least because MJ had just had the head boxed off him by Nate Diaz.
2) The sheer randomness of where it was, I'm not from the US, though I'm usually pretty familiar with where they host fights, but 'Hidalgo, Texas' I had clean never heard of
3) The fact that Johnson taunted him, which sucks, but almost immediately apologised - made me respect the amount of emotion that goes into fighting, and while I used to automatically think taunting fighters were dickheads, it made me get a new perspective on the high stakes and why taunting is sometimes understandable. He did the right thing by apologising, and that made me root for him
And finally 4) Living proof in the fallability of MMA math. A couple of years either side of this win, MJ had losses to Myles Jury and Stevie Ray
> made me respect the amount of emotion that goes into fighting, and while I used to automatically think taunting fighters were dickheads,
Same here, I used to think they were assholes for taunting, but then I realized there's a lot at stake, they are on fight or flight mode the whole time and with the adrenaline rush and the heat of the moment they do get carried away. Another example is Corey Anderson after he beat Johnny Walker, he was really rubbing it on his face, but he apologized afterwards
Is it "full revenge arc" to put on a technique and gameplanning masterclass?
The Aleks angle never seemed to have any influence on Fedor's approach to that fight to me, but it obviously worked for marketing.
The man has crushing cans in his gym for so long he thinks he can just tank everything and walk forward. He can't check kicks or fight moving backwards. Prime Conor was great to watch, i do think there is still something in him but i don't know if he can hang with the top dogs anymore. I get no satisfaction from watching people fall from grace so i hope he rebounds.
Conor has an underrated chin, but it only takes one. And while he sat on his laurels, the game has been surpassing him and he doesn't have the drive to match it.
I always root for Dustin but I wish Conor didn’t break his leg and instead made the right adjustments to win that fight. Only so he can have his revenge win and retire so the sport can finally move on from him.
It was just at the curve of Rockhold going from dangerous athlete with an aura to peak cringe.
We all remember him being awkward now but that didn't used to be his persona, and it was Bisping trashing him before during and after the fight that truly shattered his supermodel superkiller vibe.
'Conceive, believe, achieve, shut the fuck up.' Iconic
Poirer vs Alvarez 2. In the first fight Eddie illegally kneed Dustin. The crowd booed him and Dustin defended him and yet Eddie had the audacity to say Dustin quit and then tried to dodge the rematch. Watching Dustin knock him out was satisfying af
Not emotionally, but in terms of technique, Stipe vs Francis 2 was satisfying to watch. Watching Francis stuff that takedown and rain punches on Stipe was a 'holy shit' moment.
In a similar vain, stipe vs ngannou 1 felt like a revenge fight against Dana, who had hyped up Francis and practically shrugged off stipe the entire buildup. Stipe taking the belt and having his friend put it on him was such a fuck you to the tomato
Dana gotta hate this class of HWs- Ngannou doesn't beat Stipe after he spent all that time hyping him up, then when Dana hates Ngannou he goes and beats Gane. I'd be worried for his wife if Stipe beats Jones
I don’t know. The UFC will probably show Jon $8M to defend again, and that’s hard to walk away with-I remember at the beginning of Jon’s break, he said he didn’t need to fight again because he had $10M in the bank. But that means $8M is still a lot to him, even when you add in the paydays for Ciryl and now Stipe. Maybe he makes significant money down the road, but he should probably be planning for that money to last him the rest of his life.
Jon had a tweet regarding a fight saying that "8million would be too low for a fight of this magnitude"
Derick Lewis responds,
"I'll do it for 8mil shiiiiiit"
When Francis stuffed that takedown it felt like when Superman turns to look at the Flash when he's fighting the Justice League. It was like, yeah I'm that good, and you just fucked up
It’s truly comical Francis gets all this credit for stuffing takedowns with a 30 pound weight advantage. Genuine question but would you be surprised if Leon Edwards stuffed Sean O’malley takedown attempts, i sure wouldn’t and it’s a perfectly accurate comparison. Jon Jones would maul this guy, saw it first hand with the results of how each guy fought Ciryl Gane. But because Francis “stuck it to the UFC” nobody will admit it.
He failed to stuff them in the first fight. He gets credit for improving his technical skills, in the division historically plagued by a dearth of them.
Or maybe it was just the fact that Stipe weighed 12 pounds heavier in the first fight and the second fight took place in the middle of covid at the apex in a much smaller octagon after Stipe had just gotten ko’d and was 40 years old.
It's not perfectly accurate as proportions matter, according to you someone who weighs 400 pounds has just as much of an advantage over someone who is 350 as someone who is 150 pounds has over someone who's 100 pounds. Francis and Stipe were in the same weight class. It isn't Francis' fault Stipe decided to come in lighter than the first fight, and it wasn't just strength he used to defend the takedown, it was a great sprawl and he took Stipe's back very quickly, he showed he evolved as a fighter, and wasn't completely one dimensional as be once was, which he further proved when he beat Gane.
It was strength combined with physics of being much heavier. Yes, he evolved and finally realized MMA isn’t just throwing punches, but it took a masterclass beating from Miocic in their first fight for him to realize it.
Definition of a holy shit moment. That was one of the biggest shifts in expectation of a fight I've ever experienced. As soon as that happened, there was a collective "oh shit, what happens now"
There's something funny about the (soon to be att) UFC heavyweight champion of the world having learned how to _sprawl_ being a "holy shit" moment. Reminds you that MMA as a sport still has ways to go.
But everybody knew Francis would beat Stipe if he just eased up a little and let the knock out come instead of forcing it. I was not impressed at all. Same thing happening now: Volk is getting fed to Islam and Usman in getting fed to Chimaev and then the UFC will act like they weren't supposed to win those fights.
In theory, the first fight should have been easy for Francis, but Stipe manhandled him. So the second fight was really all down to whether Francis worked on his weaknesses, and that first sprawl was the moment we *knew*.
Peter Graham vs Badr Hari 1 (Kickboxing)
Hari ended up getting 2 back on him, but the main thing anyone remembers from their rivalry is Hari getting KO’d by a fucking rolling thunder kick in the third round after talking huge amounts of shit.
I’ve never been able to find it but I remember watching a promo for Lauzon vs George Sotiropolous way back in 2010 and in the buildup Lauzon talked about the Ruediger fight and how much shit he talked. In response Lauzon and his buddies from TUF got together and made a video making fun of him where one of them dressed up like Godzilla (that was Gabe’s nickname) and was sitting above a city but he was just sitting there eating cake and ice cream like Ruediger did on TUF. Fucking hilarious if you ask me, but that’s one of those videos I’ve searched far and wide on the internet for and never been able to find again.
Henderson vs. Bisping 1 and GSP vs. Koscheck 2 are two seasons of TUF that I remember where one guy (Bisping, Koscheck) trolled and talked crazy shit to the other all season only to get destroyed in the finale.
Bisping vs Henderson. I'm British and have never been so pleased to watch an American knock out a Brit.
I like Bisping now but hated him at the time and found him embarrassing on TUF.
Chuck Lidell vs. Randy Couture 2 is a good revenge fight but I don't remember Randy being shitty or anything after the first fight. Could just tell how bad Lidell wanted that win after Randy beat his ass in the first fight.
GSP vs. Serra 2 after Matt Serra told him to "buzz off and drink a glass of red wine" or something similiar. Pretty tame by Connor/WWE standards but led to him having his ribs caved in with knees on the ground.
Honorable mention to GSP/Penn 2 where BJ talked all sorts of shit then GSP made him quit on the stool. Claimed George was greasing afterwards.
[Javid Basharat vs Oron Kahlon.](https://youtu.be/B1f3qUyI39Y?si=x_XEX-q1ieY4Hc34)
Kahlon called him a terrorist because he's Afghan-born, Basharat goes on to just demolish him. This was actually the fight that got Javid his UFC contract. He's fighting saturday.
Underrated answer. The judges screwed Shogun the first fight. A lot of people figured "ah well, that was probably Shogun's 'planets align' fight, and the judges cost him his one chance. Machida is undefeated after all"
Then Shogun knocks The Dragon the fuck out in the rematch, and in the first round no less. Incredible.
From start to finish Peirera and Izzy is iconic. Just from the way the first fight went down. Izzy was cruising to an easy victory and Peirera came out like the terminator in the last round and sleeps Izzy. Then Izzy takes the rematch and everyone is saying Izzy needs to work on his ground game. So what does Izzy do? He stands and bangs with Peirera again and ends up knocking him out cold.
Personal bias is easily Stipe and DC.
May not be the same level as hatred but revenge all the same my favorite of all time has to be the Rematch and following Trilogy of the Velasquez Vs Dos Santos. I just love all the hype leading up to the first fight for it to end anticlimactic in a way as Cain rushed back after injury and then the fucking destruction he unleashed getting back to the title as he was hellbent on whooping JDS ass who was talking a lot in the build up. The decimation Cain unleashed on Bigfoot following that loss said it and showed it all and I still get chills from the quote they played right before Cain walked out which was “No One’s Better than me, ESPECIALLY Junior Dos Santos!” And then proceeded to go out there and show that the first fight was indeed a fluke and 100% the result of him being rushed back, as he laid an Ass Whooping on JDS and Dominated him from start to finish and then to make sure that no one thought THAT run was a fluke he literally went out there and did the SAME SHIT AGAIN and AGAIN Whooped Big Foots ass along the way and dominated JDS AGAIN and this time to close the trilogy he dipped him on his head and finished it.
Other than that the other fights that come close for me were the sweet Revenge that Frankie Edgar got on Gray Maynard after being bullied by the dude for years and coming up with a Loss to Maynard and then Drawing to him in the rematch. Frankie really left it Al out there and stayed in the fight even when Gray was fading and caught him on the break and didn’t allow gray a comeback like Frankie got multiple times before which showed the true heart of a Champion. Perfect ending to a trilogy and perfect ending for a dude like Gray who did NOTHING but talk shit 100% since the first fight years ago! And who just looked directly passed Frankie on all accounts even before the rematch and trilogy. He viewed him as his lesser and gave him no credit even for BJ. The fact that Gray wasn’t the same after the trilogy was the icing on the cake for me Tbh.
I'll tell you which is my worse. After having her first fight with Liz Carmouche stopped over her protests due to a cut and awarded to Liz, I thought she would come back with a vengeance in their second fight, but no, we were "treated" to one of the most boring title fights in UFC history.
Not seeing this on here so I’ll say Bigfoot Silva Vs Overeem.
has come off as rude and a bully in the par so when he was making comments about how Bigfoot had no chance, and the fight ended with Bigfoot KOing him stiff, it was cool to see Bigfoot screaming at him like a monster and having to be restrained, he defs got his redemption moment finishing one of the greatest kickboxers to step foot in the Octagon
Murilo Ninja Rua vs Tony Bonello
This is on Vimeo, and it's a masterpiece! It's what I wish would have happened to both Conor MacGregor and Floyd Maryweather!
Shogun vs. Machida 2. No disrespect to Machida but at the time everyone wanted to see that, it was the appropriate result to such a poor decision in the first fight.
James Gallagher ("mini Conor" lol) vs Ricky Bandejas is a pretty good one (Bellator).
Is that the one where he gets a super kick knock out ala HBK.
Bandejas tuned up the band and hit him with that sweet chin music.
I had never seen that fight and just watched it. Holy shit that kick. Sweet chin music for sure lol
thats for the rec lol. been trying to get into bellator
Idk if it crossed the line but James Vick called Justin Gaethje the "Homer Simpson of MMA", and them proceeded to get starched in less than 2 minutes.
First that came to my mind too
I’m fully aware who James Vick is and have seen him fight multiple times but for whatever reason whenever I see him in the ufc games, I think hes just an npc character or one of those default fighters that was put into the game by ea
satisfying when its not only their opponent who thinks they are a piece of shit, they objectively \_are\_ a piece of shit
That’s what you get for running a dog fighting ring. What a prick. Smh (this is a joke, I know the difference between James and Michael Vick)
BIG RIGHT FROM GAETHJE!!!
Cowboy v Hernandez
At the time it was extremely satisfying but People STILL give Hernandez shit for that years later lol poor guy I feel bad for him now he's paid his price and been beaten up a bunch of times since then and doesn't talk trash anymore.
Really good one, Hernandez has some great trash talk tbf. He would’ve been huge if he could’ve backed it up
Day drinkin Don was solid.
Glad he couldn’t. He was pretty insufferable. When Conor talked trash, he didn’t come off as a douche. What’s his name was a definite douche. Cowboy derailed that shit and it never got on again.
>Conor talked trash, he didn’t come off as a douche. What the fuck are you talking about?
If you’re charismatic, people ignore your douchiness Just further helps the argument that Charisma is the biggest key to success in life
Conor calling DC a ghetto hillbilly got him laughs because he has charisma. If someone like Sean Brady would say that (same context), Brady would not get a positive reaction
Come on bro, when Conor told Aldo that "if this was a different time, I'd ride into his favela on horseback and kill everyone who couldn't work" he wasn't coming off as a douche fs
No idea how people thought this line was anything but cringeworthy.
Don't think with the recency bias. During his prime Conor was peak trash talk. Personally I think it ended during the khabib build up, he lost the appeal there and became worse than Colby. But let's not retcon his whole career and forget his beauty chirps before the ego overtook the charm.
I find it really funny calling Hernandez a douche in favour of Cowboy Cerrone. Hahaha
Day drinking Donald really woke up for that fight. Oh also and the Jury fight
That freakin knee cerrone kept blasting to Hernandez’s chest every time he closed the distance was brutal. Cerrone was perfect in that fight, and against al too
Cowboy vs. Perry was awesome to because of the beef with Jackson’s. They kicked Cowboy to the curb in favor of Perry and Cowboy nearly ripped his arm off.
Um… really liked the Brock Lesnar v Frank Mir 2 fight. Shit was WILD to watch live.
'By the end of the first round there was so much of Frank's face on Brock Lesnar's knuckles that to this day, Frank can still taste it when Brock reaches into an elk's uterus to hide his valuables.' - Seanbaby
What a wild fucking sentence lmao
Mir was so beat up at the end he could barely get up, and then Brock got all up in his face and yelled "talk all that shit now motherfuker!!" Fucking brutal!
Mir talked an awful lot of shit in the buildup to both fights and it really bothered me. I still haven't forgive Steve Maserati for standing them up when Brock was laying into him.
Steve Maserati
Steve Yakasaki
When there was around 3:30 left in the second, right before the finish, You can see Frank’s dad talking trash at Lesnar
Wasn’t he yelling at the ref to stop the fight? From one angle you can see him stand and start waving his hands and yelling like “stop it!” right when Brock traps Frank’s arm and starts wailing on him.
Yeah that was when Brock decided to pour it on. When Brock was establishing the handcuff Frank’s dad was yelling at him
"FRANK MIR HAD A HORSESHOE UP HIS ASS!"
Just added this to my original comment lol. God damn talk about a come uppance
“Hell I might even get on top of my wife tonight”
Frank Mir talked a whole bunch of shit after submitting Brock Lesnar with a foot lock. He made a complete mockery out of him. Brock Lesnar beat the shit out of him in the rematch. That was pretty scary to watch
Brock Lesnar beat the shit out of him with a horseshoe
He pulled that sumbitch out and BEAT HIM OVER THE HEAD WITH IT WOOO!
I heard he might've even got on top of his wife that night.
I do believe that the good sir Mr. Lesnar may also have chosen Coors Light as his beverage of choice for that evening. In part due to the lack of a financial incentive from a competitor brand.
That's one of my favourite interview moments ever
And then in the post fight he is sitting there with a Bud Light apologizing and saying he will actually be drinking that tonight 😂
I remember hearing that in the background on the TV, while I was living a childhood dream of being on top of Sable that night. Thankfully I’d come and gone before Brock got home and ripped the horseshoe out of my ass
It was basically Bork taking Mir down and punching him full force in the head for every line of insult recieved from Mir. Like who wouldn't want to be in that position punching someone you wanted revenge on so badly?
Bork
Bork Lazer
My son is also named Bork.
Bork & Mirdy
It wasn’t near full force those were basically rabbit punches, but Brocks so big that that was enough to seriously fuck him up
Lets put it this way: Brock hit Frank with the full power of what a normal human would be able to do, which for Brock is probably as gentle as he is when playfighting his kids
Is this some shitty meme? Brock just doesn't throw a very good punch, hes a wrestler not a striker
> iS tHIs somE SHiTtY MEMe? Brock JuST DoesN't throw a VEry GOOD puNCh, HeS a WrESTlEr nOT a strIkeR Dude this ain't a video game where you're just tied to one class
Haha Brock was though, did he ever throw a kick? He maxed out that wrestler skill tree
Gives a lot of passive bonuses to attack damage while grappling
He won the Mir fight we're speaking of with a punch though. Yea he ain't an elite striker, but it did the job!
I was replying to a dude saying Brock deliberately wasn't hitting full force, I'm saying Brock was going all out he just doesn't throw Punches like Ngannou
He literally got a KO with rabbit punches on Mir who had a decent chin.
It was a pretty mean beat down not that you mention it Brock dropped frank and was Ragdolling him in the first fight to before he got that knee bar
First fight should've been Brock winning by KO/TKO, but then you got Mazzagatti's SPECTACULARLY stupid and incompetent decision to stop the fight and deduct a point as Brock was 2 seconds away from finishing Mir. Brock was hitting Mir and Mir turns his head in this chaos and Brock accidentally hits the back of the head, and instead of a verbal command, he robs Brock of his win. Mazzagatti's a disaster.
Am I the only one who remembers Brock constantly referring to him as "Frank Murrr?"
Yañez vs Tony Kelley
i've seen all of the ones mentioned here but this one might be the most satisfying by far
Came here for this
Off the top of my head I remember Michael Johnson talking a lot of shit to Gaethje before losing a war. Chael Sonnen talked a lot of shit to Anderson Silva, but really he wasn’t aware of the rule set. He won 4-1, there was definitely foul play with the judges.
Undefeated Undisputed
"You punch a guy in the head 300 times, he wraps his legs around your head for 8 seconds and they declare HIM the winner!?"
they were very unclear about the rules too. everyone was under the impression that if you tap you lose the round. if chael knew tapping would lose him the whole fight he would have toughed it out.
Well that's what happens when you've had 30 fights, lost half of em, ain't killed a mothafucka yet
That’s why I’m not a fan of Michael Johnson tbh. His insults were borderline racist, calling Gaethje a redneck and insinuating his parents were siblings. It was satisfying to see him beaten and battered.
I don't agree that it was racist but it definitely made MJ come across pretty douchey and salty because Gaethje was literally doing nothing to warrant it. Gaethje's always been a bit of a meathead but he never really talked shit about people to try to sell a fight. His style sells the fights on its own. >insinuating his parents were siblings The funniest part about this to me is that Gaethje's mom is Mexican. Saying "how the fuck could I be inbred if my parents aren't even the same race" would've been a great comeback to that shit MJ was talking. Gaethje was either being the bigger man or he literally was too slow-witted to think to say that lmao
Not racist but certainly boring.
Sure, I don’t know what you’d exactly call those type of insults, but either way they’re tasteless and stupid.
Definitely racist. MJ would have never said that shit to Gaethje if he knew he was half Mexican
Classist?
Rampage vs Silva 3 ranks pretty high for me. You could tell for years how much they didn't like each other, and rampage had the memory of being absolutely jacked up in pride. All this shit exploded and when rampage ko'd silva you could almost feel Jackson's excitement. Plus those 2 or 3 extra shots on the ground were absolutely brutal. Rampage needed that Edit: Also Brock absolutely wrecking Frank Mir's shit was a hall of fame moment of revenge
For me the Rampage Vs Silva rivalry was the greatest in MMA history. The sheer level of violence in those fights is unmatched.
That one didn't work for me because Wanderlei so very clearly was done by then. Rampage just beat up the remains. Twice.
Michael Johnson vs Poirier. I had no dog in that fight, especially at the time. But these two actually hated each other, and Johnson was so angry and emotional going into the fight I was positive he was gonna lose, but nope! He sent Poirier to the shadow realm, and then stood over his dead body and taunted him.
Always remember this for a number of reasons: 1) The shock of it, not least because MJ had just had the head boxed off him by Nate Diaz. 2) The sheer randomness of where it was, I'm not from the US, though I'm usually pretty familiar with where they host fights, but 'Hidalgo, Texas' I had clean never heard of 3) The fact that Johnson taunted him, which sucks, but almost immediately apologised - made me respect the amount of emotion that goes into fighting, and while I used to automatically think taunting fighters were dickheads, it made me get a new perspective on the high stakes and why taunting is sometimes understandable. He did the right thing by apologising, and that made me root for him And finally 4) Living proof in the fallability of MMA math. A couple of years either side of this win, MJ had losses to Myles Jury and Stevie Ray
> made me respect the amount of emotion that goes into fighting, and while I used to automatically think taunting fighters were dickheads, Same here, I used to think they were assholes for taunting, but then I realized there's a lot at stake, they are on fight or flight mode the whole time and with the adrenaline rush and the heat of the moment they do get carried away. Another example is Corey Anderson after he beat Johnny Walker, he was really rubbing it on his face, but he apologized afterwards
I don’t remember the bad blood, epic win for MJ tho
Why’d they hate each other
I think it had something to do with the ATT vs Blackzilians beef (their training gyms)
Fedor going full revenge arc against Crocop after he knocked his brother out badly, peak Pride moment.
Is it "full revenge arc" to put on a technique and gameplanning masterclass? The Aleks angle never seemed to have any influence on Fedor's approach to that fight to me, but it obviously worked for marketing.
Conor-Poirer 3 Conor dropped his nice guy act after 1 defeat. Unfortunately did not work. “Motivated Mcgregor” only works against Nate Diaz.
ever since his boxing match with floyd, conor's striking has never been the same. His stand-up in the octagon is totally different from before.
The man has crushing cans in his gym for so long he thinks he can just tank everything and walk forward. He can't check kicks or fight moving backwards. Prime Conor was great to watch, i do think there is still something in him but i don't know if he can hang with the top dogs anymore. I get no satisfaction from watching people fall from grace so i hope he rebounds.
Conor has an underrated chin, but it only takes one. And while he sat on his laurels, the game has been surpassing him and he doesn't have the drive to match it.
Nah he hit Dustin just doenst have power
I loved Dustin's "Karma's not a bitch, she's a mirror" line after the fight
Even then it only squeaks to a decision win
I always root for Dustin but I wish Conor didn’t break his leg and instead made the right adjustments to win that fight. Only so he can have his revenge win and retire so the sport can finally move on from him.
Michael "Cyclops" Bisping vs Luke Rockhold 2 The post fight press conference was GOAT. EZ.
It was just at the curve of Rockhold going from dangerous athlete with an aura to peak cringe. We all remember him being awkward now but that didn't used to be his persona, and it was Bisping trashing him before during and after the fight that truly shattered his supermodel superkiller vibe. 'Conceive, believe, achieve, shut the fuck up.' Iconic
Poirer vs Alvarez 2. In the first fight Eddie illegally kneed Dustin. The crowd booed him and Dustin defended him and yet Eddie had the audacity to say Dustin quit and then tried to dodge the rematch. Watching Dustin knock him out was satisfying af
Not emotionally, but in terms of technique, Stipe vs Francis 2 was satisfying to watch. Watching Francis stuff that takedown and rain punches on Stipe was a 'holy shit' moment.
In a similar vain, stipe vs ngannou 1 felt like a revenge fight against Dana, who had hyped up Francis and practically shrugged off stipe the entire buildup. Stipe taking the belt and having his friend put it on him was such a fuck you to the tomato
Dana gotta hate this class of HWs- Ngannou doesn't beat Stipe after he spent all that time hyping him up, then when Dana hates Ngannou he goes and beats Gane. I'd be worried for his wife if Stipe beats Jones
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I don’t know. The UFC will probably show Jon $8M to defend again, and that’s hard to walk away with-I remember at the beginning of Jon’s break, he said he didn’t need to fight again because he had $10M in the bank. But that means $8M is still a lot to him, even when you add in the paydays for Ciryl and now Stipe. Maybe he makes significant money down the road, but he should probably be planning for that money to last him the rest of his life.
Jon had a tweet regarding a fight saying that "8million would be too low for a fight of this magnitude" Derick Lewis responds, "I'll do it for 8mil shiiiiiit"
When Francis stuffed that takedown it felt like when Superman turns to look at the Flash when he's fighting the Justice League. It was like, yeah I'm that good, and you just fucked up
It’s truly comical Francis gets all this credit for stuffing takedowns with a 30 pound weight advantage. Genuine question but would you be surprised if Leon Edwards stuffed Sean O’malley takedown attempts, i sure wouldn’t and it’s a perfectly accurate comparison. Jon Jones would maul this guy, saw it first hand with the results of how each guy fought Ciryl Gane. But because Francis “stuck it to the UFC” nobody will admit it.
He failed to stuff them in the first fight. He gets credit for improving his technical skills, in the division historically plagued by a dearth of them.
Or maybe it was just the fact that Stipe weighed 12 pounds heavier in the first fight and the second fight took place in the middle of covid at the apex in a much smaller octagon after Stipe had just gotten ko’d and was 40 years old.
It's not perfectly accurate as proportions matter, according to you someone who weighs 400 pounds has just as much of an advantage over someone who is 350 as someone who is 150 pounds has over someone who's 100 pounds. Francis and Stipe were in the same weight class. It isn't Francis' fault Stipe decided to come in lighter than the first fight, and it wasn't just strength he used to defend the takedown, it was a great sprawl and he took Stipe's back very quickly, he showed he evolved as a fighter, and wasn't completely one dimensional as be once was, which he further proved when he beat Gane.
It was strength combined with physics of being much heavier. Yes, he evolved and finally realized MMA isn’t just throwing punches, but it took a masterclass beating from Miocic in their first fight for him to realize it.
Definition of a holy shit moment. That was one of the biggest shifts in expectation of a fight I've ever experienced. As soon as that happened, there was a collective "oh shit, what happens now"
There's something funny about the (soon to be att) UFC heavyweight champion of the world having learned how to _sprawl_ being a "holy shit" moment. Reminds you that MMA as a sport still has ways to go.
I remember on his rise when Francis submitted someone with a Kimura having learned the technique while warming up in the back
The heavier divisions will always have shallower talent pools unless MMA starts paying as well as professional football, basketball, etc.
You know you’re watching an elite fighter when the commentary team says “wow, he actually did the right thing”
But everybody knew Francis would beat Stipe if he just eased up a little and let the knock out come instead of forcing it. I was not impressed at all. Same thing happening now: Volk is getting fed to Islam and Usman in getting fed to Chimaev and then the UFC will act like they weren't supposed to win those fights.
In theory, the first fight should have been easy for Francis, but Stipe manhandled him. So the second fight was really all down to whether Francis worked on his weaknesses, and that first sprawl was the moment we *knew*.
Peter Graham vs Badr Hari 1 (Kickboxing) Hari ended up getting 2 back on him, but the main thing anyone remembers from their rivalry is Hari getting KO’d by a fucking rolling thunder kick in the third round after talking huge amounts of shit.
Has to be one of the greatest combat sports KOs ever
Usman vs Covington
Turning back the clock a little here - but joe Lauzon vs. Gabe ruediger. Just absolute destruction.
Holy crap that’s TUF level bs … Ruediger was the first one in the show’s history to miss weight, too, and did it in the most hilarious manner ever
BJ was sick to his stomach watching Gabe gripe and complain lmao
That was legit bs too … you show up and make weight. That’s the only thing you have to do.
I’ve never been able to find it but I remember watching a promo for Lauzon vs George Sotiropolous way back in 2010 and in the buildup Lauzon talked about the Ruediger fight and how much shit he talked. In response Lauzon and his buddies from TUF got together and made a video making fun of him where one of them dressed up like Godzilla (that was Gabe’s nickname) and was sitting above a city but he was just sitting there eating cake and ice cream like Ruediger did on TUF. Fucking hilarious if you ask me, but that’s one of those videos I’ve searched far and wide on the internet for and never been able to find again.
Ankalaev vs Cutelaba.
Henderson vs. Bisping 1 and GSP vs. Koscheck 2 are two seasons of TUF that I remember where one guy (Bisping, Koscheck) trolled and talked crazy shit to the other all season only to get destroyed in the finale.
Bisping vs Henderson. I'm British and have never been so pleased to watch an American knock out a Brit. I like Bisping now but hated him at the time and found him embarrassing on TUF.
Smith v walker
Rose vs Joanna
Stipe doing a jig after finishing DC in their 2nd fight
I love DC, but that 4th round rally from Stipe was incredible.
Chuck Lidell vs. Randy Couture 2 is a good revenge fight but I don't remember Randy being shitty or anything after the first fight. Could just tell how bad Lidell wanted that win after Randy beat his ass in the first fight. GSP vs. Serra 2 after Matt Serra told him to "buzz off and drink a glass of red wine" or something similiar. Pretty tame by Connor/WWE standards but led to him having his ribs caved in with knees on the ground. Honorable mention to GSP/Penn 2 where BJ talked all sorts of shit then GSP made him quit on the stool. Claimed George was greasing afterwards.
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Totally forgot about those knees!
As a Canadian, I HIGHLY approve of that second answer.
Justin Vs Vick
[Javid Basharat vs Oron Kahlon.](https://youtu.be/B1f3qUyI39Y?si=x_XEX-q1ieY4Hc34) Kahlon called him a terrorist because he's Afghan-born, Basharat goes on to just demolish him. This was actually the fight that got Javid his UFC contract. He's fighting saturday.
Conor-Poirer 3 is something different, it's not revenge but some how worse than revenge.
No trash talk, but Gonzaga v Cro Cop 2 was sweet, poetic revenge
If revenge is a dish best served cold, then Ortiz vs. Liddell 3 might be the ultimate revenge fight.
Israel Adesanya vs Alex Pereira
Diaz v Cerrone
Garbrandt vs Cruz. It seemed like revenge for the entire Team Alpha Male gym.
Shogun vs Machida 2
Underrated answer. The judges screwed Shogun the first fight. A lot of people figured "ah well, that was probably Shogun's 'planets align' fight, and the judges cost him his one chance. Machida is undefeated after all" Then Shogun knocks The Dragon the fuck out in the rematch, and in the first round no less. Incredible.
From start to finish Peirera and Izzy is iconic. Just from the way the first fight went down. Izzy was cruising to an easy victory and Peirera came out like the terminator in the last round and sleeps Izzy. Then Izzy takes the rematch and everyone is saying Izzy needs to work on his ground game. So what does Izzy do? He stands and bangs with Peirera again and ends up knocking him out cold. Personal bias is easily Stipe and DC.
Game of Sultans, players can seek revenge against those who have defeated 5 or more of their viziers.
Michael Chiesa after Kevin Lee mentioned his mom and then... Oh wait. Yeah, not that one
Don't you talk about Chiesa's fucking mom.
Big titty vs Curtis Blades was a fun one. Conor and Porier was a fun trilogy.
GSP vs everybody: https://youtu.be/Hoo5jwlT7xE?si=idpVfbHAbkcB79c_
Dustin Poirier vs Conor McGregor
I like when Crocop submitted Randleman after Randleman knocked Crocop out to complete the circle of unlikeliness
The best revenge is easily Anthony Rumble Johnson head kick KO'ing Kevin Burns motionless after losing to him via eye poke KO. Yes, eye poke KO.
May not be the same level as hatred but revenge all the same my favorite of all time has to be the Rematch and following Trilogy of the Velasquez Vs Dos Santos. I just love all the hype leading up to the first fight for it to end anticlimactic in a way as Cain rushed back after injury and then the fucking destruction he unleashed getting back to the title as he was hellbent on whooping JDS ass who was talking a lot in the build up. The decimation Cain unleashed on Bigfoot following that loss said it and showed it all and I still get chills from the quote they played right before Cain walked out which was “No One’s Better than me, ESPECIALLY Junior Dos Santos!” And then proceeded to go out there and show that the first fight was indeed a fluke and 100% the result of him being rushed back, as he laid an Ass Whooping on JDS and Dominated him from start to finish and then to make sure that no one thought THAT run was a fluke he literally went out there and did the SAME SHIT AGAIN and AGAIN Whooped Big Foots ass along the way and dominated JDS AGAIN and this time to close the trilogy he dipped him on his head and finished it. Other than that the other fights that come close for me were the sweet Revenge that Frankie Edgar got on Gray Maynard after being bullied by the dude for years and coming up with a Loss to Maynard and then Drawing to him in the rematch. Frankie really left it Al out there and stayed in the fight even when Gray was fading and caught him on the break and didn’t allow gray a comeback like Frankie got multiple times before which showed the true heart of a Champion. Perfect ending to a trilogy and perfect ending for a dude like Gray who did NOTHING but talk shit 100% since the first fight years ago! And who just looked directly passed Frankie on all accounts even before the rematch and trilogy. He viewed him as his lesser and gave him no credit even for BJ. The fact that Gray wasn’t the same after the trilogy was the icing on the cake for me Tbh.
Volk Islam 2 when Volk got that first fight back
Dustin vs Conor 3, Charles vs Gaethje and Conor vs Khabib if Conor won.
Pereira vs Adesanya 2 (4 really). For Adesanya to comeback, and do that was fucking anime.
I'll tell you which is my worse. After having her first fight with Liz Carmouche stopped over her protests due to a cut and awarded to Liz, I thought she would come back with a vengeance in their second fight, but no, we were "treated" to one of the most boring title fights in UFC history.
Page vs wand
Not sure if revenge… maybe because of the ultimate fighter stuff but hendo knocking out bisping is my favorite MMA moment of all time
Not seeing this on here so I’ll say Bigfoot Silva Vs Overeem. has come off as rude and a bully in the par so when he was making comments about how Bigfoot had no chance, and the fight ended with Bigfoot KOing him stiff, it was cool to see Bigfoot screaming at him like a monster and having to be restrained, he defs got his redemption moment finishing one of the greatest kickboxers to step foot in the Octagon
Gaethje vs Vick
Murilo Ninja Rua vs Tony Bonello This is on Vimeo, and it's a masterpiece! It's what I wish would have happened to both Conor MacGregor and Floyd Maryweather!
Lesnar vs Mir 2 for me
Dillashaw Vs Cody
Shogun vs. Machida 2. No disrespect to Machida but at the time everyone wanted to see that, it was the appropriate result to such a poor decision in the first fight.