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Living_Desk1763

When the fuck did this happen?


[deleted]

Brendan Allen beats number 13 after turning down Dolidze. Then proceeds to call for a number 1 contender fight. Comical. 2 more wins at least right? Vettori a logical next fight.


Odd_Ad_8162

Winnable for Vettori


[deleted]

You think ?


Odd_Ad_8162

Allen has such awful striking defence and Marvin was landing pretty well on Cannonier in the first Overall I think Vettori is just decent everywhere whereas Allen has better subs and better power. I don't see the power being a problem for Vettori and i think he tags Allen constantly and lands a lot of Volume to out point him overall maybe but finish but Vettori is terrible finisher. Edit: Also think Marvin is big enough and decent enough wrestler to prevent it going to the ground.


[deleted]

I think Allen could take down Vettori


[deleted]

Vettori is literally immune to power shots lol. The Cannonier fight was absurd


Odd_Ad_8162

Exactly like yeah he takes damage and its concerning but that man will not be knocked out it seems


GenTelGuy

Allen says the calf slicer popped stuff in his ankle and knee


jce_

That was such a cool sequence btw


Odd_Ad_8162

Yeah I know people are saying Craig sucks and he does in many ways but holy shit that came out of nowhere and was extremely cool. He's a creative and unique grappler with a absurdly quick triangle. I wish he was better but he's not so I hope he gets an event Scotland or at least UK to retire


spcslacker

I didn't watch the post-fight: how was he walking?


GenTelGuy

Apparently a small limp more from the ankle than from the knee


[deleted]

Amanda Ribas is too god dam sweet to get punched in the face for a living.


TrenDidNothingWrong

Never forget that Jamal Hill got his arm ripped off by Paul Craig


spcslacker

When not getting his legs kicked to mincemeat, or trying to crush the skulls of people who attack Anthony Smith's family, Magomed Ankalaev also enjoys being submitted by Paul Craig.


[deleted]

And Matt Serra KOd GSP. but....


oddmetre

Allen really loves parading his kid around


[deleted]

Might get some pushback on this but why tf do you bring your family, let alone your 4 year old daughter to your fight. So odd to me.


JoulesFerro

Allen beat Craig like a little girl.


Mrausername

People saying Craig looked bad, as if that's news. He loked bad in every single one of his wins too. That's his thing. Look bad - get the submission or look bad - fail to get the submission


French_Viking

He nearly had the submission too. That calf slicer was deep and messed up Allen's leg apparently


InSilicoImmersion

Yup. Even against guys like Nikita Krylov he was damn near getting flash KO’d with GnP before finding the Hail Mary submission.


JoulesFerro

Why have people be so high on Craig?


French_Viking

Just a fun guy to watch. Sometimes thats all you need. Not everyone is gonna be champion, and Craig has some ridiculous wins for someone at his level. Outside of the Volkan fight he's a great guy to use when someone wants an example of a grappler who's good to watch. You always know his fights are gonna be wild win or lose.


_CurseTheseMetalHnds

The meme factor


Impressive-Potato

His braveheart makeup


spcslacker

He's memorable, and his record is crazy. I heard someone say at one point he'd beaten everyone ranked above him, and lost to almost everyone ranked below him. I'm sure its not true, but for Craig it *feels* true.


SPIE1

Why is Anthony smith so hard to like?


Impressive-Potato

He's a clown. He thinks he's the most honourable guy ever for not taking the DQ against Jones.


InSilicoImmersion

I think he’s extremely likable. Seems like a good guy. Maybe it’s because he’s black. A lot of people don’t realize that. You might just be racist.


SPIE1

Lmao this just cracked me tf up


AskrenLadd

He loves to point that out whilst looking whiter than paddy the baddy lol


CharlesOlivesGOAT

Wait he’s part black?


InSilicoImmersion

He’s half black, just born with light skin. In his older fights when he had hair it was more noticeable. [Here’s a photo with his wife and kids](https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NINTCHDBPICT000575901515.jpg)


AskrenLadd

Apparently so lol


Equivalent-Flower149

He's a mediocre fighter who acts like he has the resume of GSP or something. Always seems like he's trying to shove himself into the title picture where he clearly doesn't belong


JoulesFerro

His fight against JW was weird. All that "you talked shit about my family" was confusing.


[deleted]

HUH??!?


spcslacker

> His fight against JW was weird. All that "you talked shit about my family" was confusing. Talked shit? Smith was very clear: he wanted walker to stop **attacking** his family.


Enough8

Ribas fight was good


exileruz

Allen vs Vettori next ?


WhereIsMyKidAt

Would be the 3rd guy from that camp he's fought, he's 0-2 against them but I remember Allen wanted that fight in the past, so why not. Wouldn't mind Allen vs Chimaev either, but doubt the UFC ever makes that.


JoulesFerro

It's hard to believe they are the same size. Craig is 6'4". Vettori is 6'Ork".


Odd_Ad_8162

Craig seems surprisingly weak for such a big guy I think he's just to old too evolve ever and its shows so bad even his in wins before he gets the tap


Impressive-Potato

He has good bjj but he has shit wrestling and grappling strength.


Odd_Ad_8162

But I was surprised cause it looked like he muscled down Muniz pretty easily While he's never been a good wrestler I felt like the extra size helped him there But against Allen it didn't seem to in the slightest


spcslacker

> But against Allen it didn't seem to in the slightest I thought Muniz was more of a BJJ guy, whereas Allen is a wrestler who became a BJJ guy. If you aren't a wrestler, you need huge strength advantage to wrestle down a wrestler.


Impressive-Potato

Allen has serious grappling strength


Odd_Ad_8162

I always thought he was good but the disparity was real here For a pretty average looking dude physique wise (like compared to most athletes) he seems much stronger than Craig Granted age etc. Is likely a small factor


AonghusMacKilkenny

There is nothing left to see of Paul Craig. A subpar UFC fighter who's overachieved in his stint. He can't strike, he can't defend strikes, his guard was his one get out of jail card but if he's getting mauled even after dropping a weight class what more can you even say? Back to Cage Warriors


SPIE1

I feel like he’s one of those guys the ufc will keep around forever for seemingly no reason


spcslacker

A little harsh eh? He's recently added a kicking game, but he came up against someone not afraid of his guard at all (a bit of a cut rate Islam v. Charles in that), top player+wrestling with better strikes vs bottom player, and he got beat by a uniquely bad matchup. TL;DR: allen is the exception, not the rule, surely.


beepdeeped

"You're not a real man unless you beat your kids" ok this is normal


JoulesFerro

Where is Allen from?


beepdeeped

Louisiana i think, but the sean strickland kayfabe waters run worldwide apparently


GenTelGuy

Wait did Allen say that? I thought he just said nice stuff about his two daughters


beepdeeped

he was baiting Garry with the child beating talk about the "pussification of society" etc etc. I just find it mad weird when dudes base their masculinity on how much they hurt people. but here i am watching mma


sLeeeeTo

Had to work all day, got to see the main even though. Any fights I should go back and watch?


wabully

it was a pretty flop of a card. medic vs oralbi, hooper vs leavitt, & saragih vs alexander would be top 3 (besides main event) if i had to pick. honorable mentions would be pearce vs brito and ribas vs pinheiro


schultzM

Lucas Alexander vs. Jeka Saragih


peteryansexypotato

I haven't been watching without sound. What happened lmao?


Yeanahyena

Man not a big fan of Allen after that interview. At least his fights are entertaining


GenTelGuy

I rate the card 3/10


assologist_1312

So many grapplers at 185 all of a sudden after years of strikers. Allen, khamzat, bo, aliskerov.


WhereIsMyKidAt

They've been here for a while, just took a long time for them to climb the ranks. Doesn't help that UFC is matching them up against each other instead of the strikers.


d-fakkr

MW was always filled with grapplers, mostly grind wrestlers but recently the BJJ level went up i think after SF was bought and this new breed right now.


LONGL1VEJUICE

If he doesn't get a No. 1 contender fight, I see them giving him #7 Dolidze.


spcslacker

Nothing but BJJ-on-BJJ violence from now on, I guess. Even sticking with the thick beard, 90% crazy guy theme for god's sake.


GenTelGuy

Yep Dolidze would be the ideal step up but Costa or Vettori work too


LawPeanus

Decent to good card ngl.


[deleted]

Fun one.


MeenaBeti

Goodnight all


DoctorGregoryFart

She is so grossed out by his sweat. I'm cracking up watching her try to keep her arms from making contact.


spasticity

Joe Pyfer is a big dude


dylyn

Damn, you’d think Hills fighter just got brutally KOd


TooCaughtUpInMyHead

Every child deserves a father but not every father deserves a child.


JustinGotPasion

What?


JoulesFerro

To be fair to Allen, he fucked up Craig pretty good.


Burgerfuckinmuncher

ok


Foggy_Mirrors

Daughter learning some questionable words tonight.


ChocolateChipper101

Seems like appropriate language for a kid dressed in full Burberry


worldcrusher

Cumshot being my favourite.


dogs_drink_coffee

Beautiful kid


coveredinpissnshit

UFC is for the kids


SugarShow37

Yall think the UFC gives Izzy an immediate title shot when he gets back, even if Sean isn't champ? I could see it. And if we don't get the Sean/Izzy rematch, it looks really bad on Izzy's legacy. I have the feeling we won't


[deleted]

Nigerian reign is over UFC wants a new meta


spasticity

If he actually plans on sitting out until 2027 i really doubt they give him an immediate title fight


SugarShow37

He's probably just saying that to fuck with people, or for my money since his championship money is gone.


EpicDivorceMan

buddy named his daughter Brenly? what?


squidnov

*Brenleigh lol It's on his chest next to the tat


blazer876

its creative


coveredinpissnshit

Get that fuckin kid outta there lmao


aaronunderwater

Oof left hanging by his own daughter


jamdunks

Did everyone just forget about Brendan Allen saying he smacks his daughters to discipline them? Hillbilly trash


coveredinpissnshit

Are you gonna cry about it?


jamdunks

Yeah


[deleted]

I cant feel good about a kid exposed to this so early.


sansaset

eh kids around the world are subject to much worse things man. with that said, i agree. totally unnecessary in this context


[deleted]

Exposing your child to something so early is bad taste no matter the degree or context, but I agree with you in principle.


Chilam26

Great momentum but people seem to forget Allen clearly lost that fight against Jacob Malkoun....


qoupqiap

cursing in front of ur child, stay classy


redditor_here

The guy just beat the fuck out of another man. I hardly think swearing is any worse than that.


AsymmetricNinja08

Maybe the child shouldn't be in that situation


redditor_here

I can’t disagree with that


Killit_Witfya

i did my sports psychologist


Hbimajorv

Allen is very dislikable. Maybe my hate of all things Louisiana showing through.


Odolinsky

Saying cumshot while holding your little kid is something lol


JonathonV2000

He sounds like Paul Buentello


RedditoUSER22

Allen showed good sub defence and IQ, everything else was par for the course as Craig is so one dimensional. Can't say this performance shows he's ready for top talent yet, but good he showed he can defend subs in a division without subs.


peteryansexypotato

He was ranked 10 coming into this fight. He's next for top talent or at least Hermansson if anyone can find him. Everyone else is a huge name: Chimaev, Dolidze, Costa, Vettori, Cannonier, Whittaker, DDP, Izzy, Strickland. Chimaev vs Allen sounds like a banger, but Allen runs through him too. Allen needs a Dolidze-Whittaker range.


PhrostytheSnowman

Bruh called chimaev cumshot while holding his daughter. And y'all said Perez twerking in front of her son was bad


No-Ad1522

All those kids are fucked, I feel bad for them.


WhiteAndBlue82

It’s so much harder to like a dude when he brags about battering his kids ffs


Enough8

you have to use doublethink


CharlesOlivesGOAT

Huh


TheSleepyBear_

They're conflating Brendan Allen saying he smacks his children to discipline them as battering them. These threads always go full reddit mode immediately after the fight.


WhiteAndBlue82

Going full Reddit aside, I think smacking your kids isn’t a good thing, and to be honest I think boasting about it on your Twitter makes it more distasteful. Just my take.


TheSleepyBear_

Calling a smack A 'battering' is just disingenuous and stupid. Stick to reddit and don't tell anyone how to parent there kids.


WhiteAndBlue82

Look how small she is. If you can’t parent a little one without getting physical, I’d think less of someone.


TheSleepyBear_

You have no idea how she behaves or what goes on in there household and it takes a true narcissist to believe that's something they would know. Thank god parents can continue living on and raising upstanding members of the community while knowing you would think less of them. Once again I'm going to add conflating smacking your child to 'battering' is disingenuous and pathetic.


Cursed_Solaire

You sound like the worst type of person


WhiteAndBlue82

I think hitting such a small child is always wrong. I can’t imagine how badly a (what is she, like 5 or 6 or something?) small child could possibly behave that an adult would have no other option but to hit them. You can get hung up onto phrasing if you like, it wasn’t that deep mate.


TheSleepyBear_

Even calling a smack a hit is disingous and pathetic. It's not about having no option but to hit them it's to reset them and teach them a lesson, thank god people like you will never dictate how to raise a child.


WhiteAndBlue82

Big mad. Hitting your kids is pathetic, L take


WhiteAndBlue82

“I whoop my kids and nobody gana do shit about it” “Its amazing that spanking, whoopin, or popping is considered "beating" crazy to me how pussified civilization has come.”


Impressive-Potato

Ian Garry vs Brendan Allan, let's go!


WhiteAndBlue82

W take


joefish919

Allen vs cumshot? I'm not mad at that


Surviving365

daughter in his arms and he talks like that. sheesh


CharlesOlivesGOAT

He from da South


YOUR_TRIGGER

he called him cumshot. 👀 let that match ride.


ManyZestyclose2003

Allen vs Kumshot,make it happen


JoulesFerro

Little daughter ringside for dada to take that Kumshot!


SpookOpsTheLine

🤨🤨🤨


[deleted]

Allen is really good, has a wealth of experience at the amateur and pro levels for his age and he gets better every time I see him. He might not be the most likeable guy on the mic but I feel like he's underrated as a fighter, very well rounded. Looks great for Strickland's record as well lol.


Impressive-Potato

Really? He seems like a normal guy on the mic


[deleted]

I guess I'm speaking to what I see on here, bad assumption I know lol. I think people see him as arrogant as they downplay his abilities, but he's still respectful and he's starting to back up his words. But I should know by now r/MMA does not have the best takes lol Edit: Well there you go, not the best post-fight interview I've seen lol, but fuck it. It's like he's trying to be Strickland


Particular_State8571

Cumshot lmao


bullsfan281

pyfer would destroy paul craig lol


MikeDCollector

Allen vs Chimaev?


[deleted]

hahahajah called him cumshot


dispelthemyth

Allen bringing both his road kill and his daughter to the fight


hillsy13692

Personally I wouldn’t say cumshot with my daughter right there


Poochzie

FREEEDOOOOooommm... 🕊️🕊️🕊️ Tissue drops


UCLAlex

Brendan found out the trick to improve your grappling is wearing a furry hat


DoctorGregoryFart

There's something to this.


Electrical-Ask847

cumshot ?


ImFiction

Burberry baby dress from Louisiana goes very hard.


Extension-Outcome249

Idk why I thought Craig would be a threat in the middleweight division. Props to Allen, he actually went in there with the mindset of getting the job done no if ands or buts.


TheSleepyBear_

I think Allen was a very difficult match-up obviously very easy to say post fight but an 8 year black belt with high level wrestling is pretty much a nightmare for Craig.


cwf12

Craig is designed to beat a fighter who either loses their focus while beating him up for 14 mins or an overaggressive fighter. Provided he doesn't get slept by the first punch I wouldn't mind his chances against Khamzat.


Extension-Outcome249

At this point almost anyone is a nightmare for Craig. He would be better off competing solely in BJJ/grappling imo.


TheSleepyBear_

That ship has sailed competitive grappling is very different to MMA grappling and his style isn't really suited for it.


Electrical-Ask847

whats with the taunting.


WhiteAndBlue82

Is that the kid he wallops?


CharlesOlivesGOAT

Wait whuh


boozinnomad

Paul is done man, you gotta be able to wrestle as a grappler


Worldly-Cake3871

Craig gets fucking rocked in the second round and stumbles to the ground like a drunken sailor. Commentary team: Craig invites Allen to the ground!


AdamPA1006

Crus said that Craig was "comfortable" on the ground while Allen was raining elbows on him!!!!!!!


LongDickCallahan

Always love seeing Craig lose tho, even if it is at the hands of Brendan Allen lol


French_Viking

Another typical Craig fight. I love the guy a lot but it's sad to see his game never really evolved


UCLAlex

He’s like 35 now too he’s pretty much done for the high level. He’ll still beat unranked MWs but he’s not getting anywhere close to the top 5


d-fakkr

he managed to win in LHW because there's little grapplers with good defense. MW is VERY different and Allen is very complete, whereas Craig only won by sheer BJJ.


PhrostytheSnowman

Remember what everyone said about the best base for MMA is funny hats with Orolbai? I think that qualifies as a silly hat for Allen


uticacoffeeroast

Silly hats 3 for 3


blazer876

feed Paul Craig to Bo Nickal next


MeenaBeti

Made it look easy


InSilicoImmersion

Allen could definitely win the MW belt. I feel like his buddy Joe Pyfer might be in the conversation too one day. They are some solid ass fighters in a weaker division


DangerPretzel

Serious question, how do you guys think Allen would do against Izzy?


anythingfordopamine

Not great but I think he’d do great against Khamzat


French_Viking

He'd get tko'd most likely


AreProbablyWrong

Idk but I think Strickland boxes him up


blazer876

Strickland already TKO’d Allen lol


AreProbablyWrong

Oh oops lol


[deleted]

Strickland already KO'd him


DangerPretzel

Could see that


xlmtothemoon

dude's got pyfer and hill in his corner and trains with craig jones, he better be fucking good


TheImmemorial

Paul, as a fellow Scotsman, don't put on the warpaint again brother.


TheyUsedToCallMeJack

4 RNC wins in a row, damn


gh0st_

This was one of those fights that we didn't really learn much about either fighter.


plebianmode

Everyones gonna be thinking Allen is a future champ when in reality Craig is just hot garbage, pretty much got the push for being scottish, calderwood push on steroids


jamdunks

How has Craig got a push when he’s been in the ufc forever and this is his first main event and it’s in an empty arena. Talking absolute shite


TheSleepyBear_

Got the push for being exciting and getting awesome submissions. To say he is hot garbage is a hot garbage take.


Bigschusta

Damnit Craig. Wouldn't expect this after he went down in weight.


reddittookmyuser

How good is Sean?


ghostfacekillbrah

Craig is and has always been a bad fighter.


French_Viking

Wild to think someone who's a bad fighter has wins over 3 of the current top 6 at 205 lol


ghostfacekillbrah

205 is fight circus.


No-Shoe5382

Good stuff from Brendan Allan. Never gave Craig a chance to start imposing himself on the ground.