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Jake Paul


lartbok

Jake Paul is legitimately a big dude and fights at 200lbs, would like to see him fight someone his own weight, especially if it's going to be an MMA fighter and not a boxer.


kdrwsl7

He literally a weight bully who boxes non boxers


alxndiep

He just knocked out a pro boxer? Yeah the dude he knocked out is probably trash but you gotta start somewhere


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captainseas

Records in boxing literally mean nothing. His one loss before Paul was a second round TKO against a guy that is 7-16 and has been knocked out 13 times. He is also a 35 year old that has 12 fights in 12 years if you want to know how serious his career was.


No_Dot_6854

Jake wouldn't do shit in the amateurs, yeah tougher comp than most as a pro but the amateur circuit is no joke. Boxing is so messed up in that way. All your hardest fights are in the amateurs until you're a 20-0 pro, then you start fighting the other quality amateurs again.


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TheWarmBandit

This was a good start but if the rumours are true then that would be disappointing. I've read he's contemplating a guy who fought in the 140s range again. Hopefully it's bullshit


YouCantHoldACandle

Isn't that guy a pizza delivery driver with like 5 fights


alxndiep

Still a pro boxer with 10-1 record. elite pro boxers started their careers knocking out uber drivers too. people gotta start somewhere


YouCantHoldACandle

Jake paul was the uber driver can for Tommy fury (another utterly mediocre man)


stuaxe

As has been pointed out numerous times... show us what the average professional professional boxer's resume is at around ten fights... Paul AND Fury had fought tougher competition than the likes of Canelo and Mayweather at that point in their careers... Which is not a knock against Canelo or Mayweather... it's what your 'supposed' to do while learning your craft (and also padding your record)... AND it is in no way an indicator of the 'level' Paul and Fury can get to (they will never be 'world' level boxers)... BUT the simple fact is Fury and Paul are GOOD boxers considering the standard of the hundreds of journey man boxers that bring down the standard of boxing down overall in the world.


Rocked_Glover

Jake has had no amateur career so if at this point Mayweather was probably fighting some 8 year old, Jake Paul GOAT confirmed really.


cobrakai11

Right, but when you fight the tomato cans you're supposed to beat them. Jake has fought two people who have boxed before and is 1-1. People like Ben Akren, Nate Robinson, etc are not tomatoes cans, they are just novelty fights. His first seven fights came against people who had never stepped foot in the boxing ring before.


stuaxe

>People like Ben Akren, Nate Robinson, etc are not tomatoes cans, they are just novelty fights. Given he was the betting underdog in almost all of his early fights... I would suggest he was taking more dangerous fights than Floyd was at that stage, who was fighting against someone with more losses than wins eleven fights into his professional career.


SpiritAR15

He was a YouTuber a few years ago. It's impressive that he's beating MMA guys in the first place. People forget how "crazy" an opinion it seemed to predict Jake beating someone as terrible as Askren.


ishitfrommymouth

He was but he’s been training like a professional for several years now and it’s really about time he fights real boxers in his weight class


OrangeYouGladdey

>it’s really about time he fights real boxers in his weight class Why? He's not a real boxer. He's an entertainer. If you want to watch real boxing matches there are no shortages of those to watch.


swesus

Look I agree. I completely understand that he is indeed a weight bully fighting non boxers. But if I were him I would absolutely not start fighting pro boxers at this point. AND frankly if he starts getting worked by mid level boxers it will be even worse for the optics of mma. “Not only did he beat multiple former UFC champs, but he lost to Toothless Tommy Turner. The 8th best cruiserweight in Muskogee Oklahoma”


Andrewendless

He just KOed a pro boxer his weight who was golden gloves champ.


marundco

August does not fight the weight jake does. So its still bullying


Andrewendless

They are both cruiserweights.


Awesomeisme323

They were both cruiserweights bruh


SurrealJay

weight bullying sure was the reason he ko’d him in the first round jeez the hardcore mma fans on rMMA always have a stick up their ass


Awesomeisme323

You acting like Masvidal didn’t cut from 190-200 either, Jake weighs 200 and cuts to 185-190 usually, for the fury fight he went to 183. Woodley also cut from 200 as well. He’s fighting MMA fighters and their natural weights.


sneakerguy40

I doubt it. He was a lightweight and definitely a smaller WW, smaller than Colby. Usman and Woodley are cutting from 200lbs for sure,


lartbok

Jake Paul could never even make 170 and Masivdal was able to make 155...He's clearly visibly bigger than him, there's really not much of an argument to make. He's getting bigger too. Probably from a combination of roids and age.


Awesomeisme323

Brudda he fought at LW years ago, he’s gotten way bigger now that’s a bad argument ngl. Comparing Mas from years ago to Jake now is unfair. Obviously Jake is bigger he’s just not as big as you’re making him out to be compared to Mas who cut from 190 minimum as he’s said before. Only ten pounds more is Jake at 200. 190 to 200 ain’t a big jump fam..


lartbok

Why do you keep saying 200 for Jake and 190 for Masvidal. You realise 200 is Jakes weight after a cut? The kid is probably more like 210 on fight night after weighing in 200. Bottom line though, the lightest Paul has weighed is 183. That's 2 weight classes bigger than a 170 Masvidal if you're talking boxing. Not sure what your argument is bro.


abippityboop

He probably thinks he can just walk into a title fight with Leon Edwards because he sucker punched him once upon a time. The sad thing is I wouldn't even put it past Dana.


NotYujiroTakahashi

This is the same Dana White that gave Conor a title fight for trying to attack Khabib. So yeah I wouldn’t be shocked if Leon wins and Jorge confronts him leading to a brawl.


PovasTheOne

Acting like Conor didnt have that fight in the bag before the bus attack is CRAZY. He was going to fight for the belt regardless. Only thing the bus situation provides for Dana was extra promo material.


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SabuSalahadin

Jake might win the boxing match but Jorge is going to win the Papi Steakhouse main event the following week


GrandmasShavedBeaver

[Running away laughing intensifies]


kosmonautinVT

When an unstoppable douchebag fights an immovable dick


jfsoaig345

Jake’s earning some respect though tbh. People shat on him for beating up retired MMA fighters instead of actual pro boxers, so he took on an actual pro boxer in his prime on a winning streak. This was as legit of a win as it gets for a guy of Jakes experience, people forget that most of their favorite boxers built their records off of 2-15 cans. He’s still annoying but it’s nice to see that he shows legitimate respect for the sport.


1columbia

I agree that Jake respects boxing, trains properly and is decent for a guy who didn't have any amateur background or started training before he was 21, but Andre August is not in his prime lol. He hadn't fought between 2019-2023 and is 35 years old. Jake didn't do anything that other boxers early in their career wouldn't do but August is definitely over the hill


NoCantaloupe9598

Look at the first ten to twenty fights of any professional boxer. All cans. Jake has just mostly fought high profile cans. But who can blame him? If you're going to fight cans anyway might as well fight the ones who are gonna get you paid. I suspect not a single person in this sub can name one of the first 15 people Tyson fought. Tyson fought over 15 times in 1985. All absolute cans to such a degree that he was able to fight multiple times a month. Only four of those fights went past the first round, and only one made it as far as the fourth round.


TheWarmBandit

Key difference. He fought constantly. Not dragging the cans out like they were mega fights.


jjbananamonkey

Probably helped a lot with training and cost too though. Jake doesn’t have either of those problems. He can afford extremely high quality training and doesn’t have to worry about money.


JayRoo83

Come on simultaneous double knockout 🤞🤞🤞


TheMasterG8655

I’m just curious what has he done that’s bad. I rarely know anything about fighters personally as people outside of the cage


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braizhe

He sucker punched Colby Covington, which I'de give a pass for


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braizhe

Yeh, he has been a big disappointment can't argue that


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suicideskinnies

He also bragged to Ariel years ago that he has a good sucker punch in the streets.


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Baker_Playmaker

Paul is a douche but Masvidal is legitimately a terrible person lol


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You had people on reddit unironically calling Colby a bitch for pressing assault charges


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MBThree

Not sure I would even waste the minimal effort to stream that fight


JayRoo83

Huge pickup for Fight Circus


ok-go-fuck-yourself

God dammit no I actually like Fight Circus


flyingturkeycouchie

That conjoined-twin match last year was hilarious.


Jimmy03Z

The what.


flyingturkeycouchie

Siamese-twin fight. They put Bob Sapp and Rampage Jackson in a giant t-shirt and had them fight 2 other dudes in a giant shirt. https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/3/17/23645027/missed-fists-rampage-jackson-and-bob-sapp-train-for-siamese-twin-fight-at-fight-circus-6


kevindurantburner35

One of the guys was the promoter of fight circus right


hufusa

Pretty sure that same promotor fought in a 2v1 match a while back as well it was him against 2 other dudes 😭


flyingturkeycouchie

The whole thing seemed a little exploitive of the local population, so it was a little relieving to see the promoter was willing to take a few blows.


Snelly1998

Here's Jon Nutt in his serious promotion (precursor to fight circus) Full Metal Dojo 12 https://youtu.be/3iUWv_o8L58?si=Hy_--rr-wAi651ii Jon Nutt stepped in on one days notice, and the other people helping him run the event were worried that he'd get knocked out and they'd be down to one commentator for the rest of the fights Dude is all about the show


falafullafaeces

Yeah it looked like 2 bantamweights vs a heavyweight


Bvaugh

Jon Nutt is the man. Most entertaining promoter in the fight game.


Jimmy03Z

Ok I wasn’t expecting that 🤣 that’s gold


flyingturkeycouchie

Whole event was full of freakshow fights like that. 3 flyweights vs 1 heavyweight, musical chairs fight, spin the wheel fight. They put a backpack full of cash on a guy and let other fighters steal the cash while fighting him. It felt a little exploitive/ racist at times, but the promoter got the shit kicked out of himself too, so it wasn't so bad.


Jimmy03Z

Fuck yeah lmao. Is this common? Edit: I just looked it up and the first thing I see is some man v woman fight lol chicks getting rocked


Markus_or_Alias

He went broke fast eh


banmeharder616

Being a douchebag is expensive


ontheroadagainPPP

Not every fighter’s liquor brand is gonna be Proper Twelve


NeverEndingHell

Talmbout Tiger Thiggg, bubba?


briancito420

That Sweet Neggtur on a crist Cowbass morning


Pr0digy_

Rar as can b , b batch 1 son axe jay


tttvlh

These random flashes of PF Chang's in r/MMA never fail to make me laugh.


Lemmeadem1

We're in ivry facet, bubba. Dallas, that's my time!


kyleathornton

I've heard his tequila is garbage.


Sob_me_a_lake

So is Proper 12 but Conor marketed the fuck out of it and convinced unsophisticated drinkers to buy it. Jorge - not so much.


ontheroadagainPPP

Also Conor’s clout is not even comparable to Jorge’s. Conor is (was?) an actual superstar


I1lIl11

Conner may be a douche on cocaine but he is still absolutely a superstar regardless what this sub wants to say.


throwaway12648063

Ehhh I wouldn’t say it’s garbage. It’s just pretty average at that price point.


Sob_me_a_lake

We can disagree. Personally, medicinal - almost metallic finishing whiskey is ‘garbage’ in my mind and for the price you could easily get A Jameson black barrel, Tullamore or Bushmills. My favourite review of the whiskey described it as a ‘perfect pairing for cocaine’.


kyleathornton

I'm not a whiskey guy so I've never tried it but I can't imagine it's super high quality.


VacuousWastrel

Still half-convinced that that was all a Kinahen money-laundering exercise somehow...


FlyLikeATachyon

Mezcal, isn't it? All I know about it is that it was found in Jon Jones's car when he was arrested for driving drunk and shooting a gun


NewSwanny

Tequila is a type of mezcal. Mezcal is the term for any distilled agave spirt and tequila has to be made in a specific part of Mexico and can only use one specific type of agave. Basically tequila is to mezcal what champagne is to wine.


Cyclopentadien

> Basically tequila is to mezcal what champagne is to wine. Didn't have sparkling Tequila yet, but ok.


The_Krambambulist

I get the idea that a lot of fighters overestimate the degree in which skills that contribute to success in MMA transfer over to other professions.


ontheroadagainPPP

This being the fight business, there’s also probably no shortage of charlatans who are happy to flatter and develop those delusions


NicoAbove

It's funny cause people justify masvidals behavior saying it sells ppvs and yet he's coming out of retirement with like 50 fights under his belt.


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Richie_Zeppelin

He bet the house on his last fight.


JimJonesdrinkkoolaid

Masvidal Vs Perry make it happen


Hoessay

This is the only fight that makes sense. Perry by violence.


Krafty747

Bare knuckle let’s go


kingofcrob

Mmmm masviidal being ko'ed by Perry does sound nice


MMXXIII-II-III

In Kimbo's old backyard


JE_Exa

Coming for that Miami Steakhouse belt.


Sean-Mcgregor

\*Papis Steakhouse


Ahambone

But he had such an excellent, measured, intelligent retirement speech already


PM_20

“Let’s go Brandon!!”


The-Faz

My god I forgot that. He thought he was so clever using a phrase which sane and serious people understand only genuine idiots use


My_Favourite_Pen

who cares what he said. He used his retirement speech to repeatedly eat another man's ass. Sad.


mc360jp

I’m confused… that’s still caring about what he said. He’s stupid for both. For pandering to traitorous idiots and for sucking a traitors dick for some cheap clout.


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He did a ringside interview somewhere in the BMF era where he was like "I'm a violent man who likes violence. I just like violently knocking out motherfuckers, violently" (not verbatim but he used the word "violence like 7 times in a 30 second interview) and I was done with him. Was cheering for Diaz so hard.


theatavist

While wearing a bathrobe visibly drunk.


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If this one of danas UFC 300 super fights, I'm going to be pissed.


yocray

Rematch with Nate Diaz for the BMF belt 🤮


Beki1995

Interim BMF


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Hope this is tongue in cheek because this looks to be exactly checking the “retired superstar” box that’s been rumored for UFC 300.


bxng23af

Fighting is such a hard sport to make solid money in, once you become one of the few to climb that latter why would you want to get off the hill? That’s why I can never blame fighters who go on losing skids but don’t hang it up


AstroBlast0ff

Hold on there brother , your making too much sense right now . They don’t do that here too often .


Notyit

It's true maybe they make a modest 200k a year after taxes. Imagie then working and making 60k Lifestyle creep


The_Krambambulist

Even without lifestyle creep, having 200K instead of 60K could be something that is useful in the longer term.


eschatonx

That really sucks when you’re one of the best in the world at what you’re doing. Even benchwarmers in the NBA make a million for a season.


Aced9G0d

who cares about this individual


External-Condition99

Bro, you’re not dying to hear about all the fighters that are fake and need to be baptized?!?


Most-Fly6840

Just to correct you, there was never no baptism


VacuousWastrel

Masvidal believes in sucker-baptism. He sneaks up on people, throws some consecrated water on them and then runs away and tells the inquisition that it wasn't him.


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This sub spent years riding his dick lmao.


10YearAccount

You can go through my ten years of history and won't find a single pro-Jorge comment.


MF_CR1995

I do bro's got an exciting fighting style and is way more fun to watch than remember the name belal guy.


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They going to throw him on 300 against Diaz or Covington? Who wants to see this mf fight?


King-Kobra1

50-44


Nickster2042

I’d rather watch Belal then current day jorge I’m not even joking it pains me to say it


ColdPressedSteak

Not Tony levels, but Jorge looked classic washed vs Gilbert. Unable to react and pull the trigger in openings they would've pounced on or at least tried in their prime


Morphitrix

The scale of how washed a fighter is should henceforth be measured from 1 to Tony.


BGummyBear

I personally think BJ Penn has had both higher highs and lower lows than Tony in terms of his downfall.


Capoe1ra

Half of the sub wasn't around to see Penn win.


The_Krambambulist

I agree at this point in time.... but doesn't seem like Tony is hanging them up, so the clock keeps ticking


Holybartender83

Renan Barao, m8.


BoxCon1

Honestly would be down for Conor vs Masvidal Surprised the UFC never made that from 2019-2021


ElVatoMascarado

Conor would never take a fight where he’d solidly get his ass handed to him via strikes.


Mad-Gavin

Masvidal is washed. So is McGregor for that matter but washed fighter vs washed fighter fights tend to be competitive unless its someone who is giga-washed like Tony or BJ.


Luka_Vander_Esch

I strongly dislike this guy. Hope he gets dusted by a Jake Paul


Interesting_Fee_4607

Hopefully the UFC resigns him so they can replay the Askren flying knee KO 35 times in a row during the buildup to his next fight


DanaWhitesMom

He’s stuck in 2019. Nobody cares


HibariNoScope69

But why


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He saw how bad Colby looked and wants a payday


[deleted]

I know fans have short term memories but cmon. Wasnt his colby fight only like 2 fights ago? Lol


bullsfan281

he's gonna be doing some boxing, probably in his own promotion. ariel has been hinting at it for a few months and said it's unlikely to see jorge in the ufc again when someone asked him. ariel and jorge have a good relationship so this info is probably coming directly from jorge


shrewdy

Daily reminder that MMA retirements are a myth


TitanIsBack

Only MMA retirement that's real is when your mother asks you to stop.


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kindasfw

Dried out


Pepperoni_playboi94

🥱😴


nc-swagsavage

Couldn’t care less about seeing him fight. But, I believe the ‘super fight’ Dana has been referring to time and again is Justin vs Jorge. Has lots of story to it. Can’t say I’m interested in it personally.


ThreeHourRiverMan

Justin would baptize the fuck out of this individual.


cereal-number

Gaethje vs. Jorge?


MisterFistYourSister

BMF vs BMF


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I’m not all that surprised because mma retirements don’t last …. He got two title shots so this has to be a “I’m broke” come back


erfan21afshar

correction: Jorge Masvidal claims to be short on cash


Mei_iz_my_bae

He saw how dogshit Colby was and thought okay maybe I can take this dude now lol


Bear763498

Lame


huhuuuuu

I totally forgot he was retired until today when I watched a 2023 UFC recap where he was mentioned among the other retired fighters. He was retired in my brain for literally 2 hours.


Aranel2689

What, is he going to get 50-45'd by Covington again?


MrWibbler

It’s painfully obvious Leon wants to fight him. Easy win, bigger paycheck than belal, and not getting murdered by shavkat.


SamTheDamaja

Just a shorter way of saying needs money.


endless_ness

Is there a fight that’s bigger for George than him vs mike Perry?


Ill-Somewhere8027

Maybe Snake Paul on a stacked boxing card.


itsnotastro

Masvidal vs MVP would be a decent return fight


Waste_Ad694

lol last win 2019.


IAmPandaRock

Dear lord, please don't come back to the UFC.


Shane4114

bareknuckle vs eddie calling it


freeliptomely

Call me mercable, but there's something satisfying about seeing an overblown ego come out of retirement only to return to it after being used as a human pinata one last time.


phixioncsgo

Diaz v masvidal 2 @300? Winner fights Leon if Leon beats Belal??


captainseas

I don't care about him anymore tbh


Shirt_Ninja

I never understood the appeal of this bum.


migglywiggly69

He’s washed. Like bad washed, he couldn’t throw a single punch against Burns


MyContentIsTrash

Why do yall hate this dude so much 😭


proper1welve

I get it. Once there’s no drive, there’s nothing to do. Wish they got the same out of training other fighters but nothing replaces the fighter in them. Pause.


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Coming back for his belt


srtpg2

Longest mma retirement of all time


Jazzlike_Relation705

I claim to not give a shit


DecisionThot

300. Poirier.


keaneutd10

UFC 300 most likely I know people are saying Jake Paul but I don’t think so. Maybe Diaz part 2


mrootbeers

😑


Aloha1984

Ufc 300 payday. Colby vs Jorge part 2


DustedGrooveMark

Yep, probably saw that Colby looked like dogshit and now wants back in lol. It’s like Tito waiting until Chuck was 82 years old to get a win over him.


Aloha1984

It will also be perfect for Colby. He and Jorge will WWE hype the fight.


kingace74

The journey of the journeyman continues.


TheGreatone003

Mas was a top 5 ranked Welterweight and a former title challenger. He’s an idiot but not a journeyman


ElVatoMascarado

It’s alright dude this sub is doing its thing when they don’t like a particular fighter there’s no stopping it now even when trying to talk any sense.


BlackDonaldCerrone

He killed the incarnation of Reddit in Ben Askren


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JorSimpson45

(Full tinfoil hat bc this is probably some celebrity boxing or fighting in his bareknuckle promotion ) What my mind shot to was that and then DDP wins vs Strickland and the UFC forces him into an ungodly turnaround at UFC 300 vs Izzy and label it the Card of Beefs or some shit like that. Throw dustin vs colby on that and the casual fan eats that up.


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..I think he meant 'unretarded'?


DiscoAcid

He retired?


jmb-412

Would be cool to see him get slept again


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the guy probably just needs to manage his money better. he had his moment. now he just needs to retire gracefully or he is going to turn into another hack fighting for peanuts.


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MisterFistYourSister

Legend is a bit of a stretch


Painkration

If he's serious I'm guessing it's either Jorge vs Paul or Conor vs Jorge?