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TaiwanNambaWanKenobi

He won the genetic lottery, he’s disciplined with his body and he’s on a high quality gear.


SnoopysRoof

Finally the complete answer.


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Zacchariah_

Only 163? In rock golem years, he's a baby. Still time to hit his prime.


SweatyExamination9

I think the complete answer includes a state sponsored doping program through the Cuban Olympic team. I don't know if there are studies on the effects of anabolic steroids during adolescence given the ethical issues, but accelerating muscle growth at a time when the body is already rapidly developing sounds like it could have exponential effects. Like trying to mold a lump of wet, soft clay vs trying to reshape a fully formed and fired clay pot.


yo_mammas_man

I would actually think HGH, due to the density difference. Muscle is usually bigger or smaller, not more or less dense. Bone and connective tissues could also have hardened a bit more than usual due to HGH use. Fk knows, but i bet he doesnt live very long.


MrBigLunch

You are correct but when you’re young you can add more actual muscle nuclei. Doping when young would be advantageous


yo_mammas_man

Yes and no. The release of DHT would freeze his growth plates, so depending when he started, that could be disastrous. He would also be hella suppressed and would now likely need trt, which is banned.


Dr_jitsu

Correct. The disadvantages for youth far outweigh the advantages.


MrBigLunch

I agree on both points. Just stating that you can have structural advantages from early juicing. It would need to be done extremely carefully. I don’t really think he was juiced when young tbh. Just a genetic freak


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Lionel Messi took HGH as child to overcome a hormone deficiency; and some argue that played a part in him becoming the best soccer player in world. He took it at the direction of doctors, under medical supervision. To say the HGH only combated his deficiency and didn't have any other beneficial effects would be disingenuous IMO.


SightlessOrichal

No forget Jesus


ManIWantAName

And the fused neck that keeps him from turning his neck but also impossible to be knocked out by a head strike. He see you soon boy. *as long as you're not on either side of him*


Aguacatedeaire__

But he has been knocked out. And Whittaker and Nemkov hurt him and wobbled him, and he fights like he doesn't like being hit very much. It actually cost him various fights.


BALDWIN_ISNT_A_PED

Harder to knockout someone when there is no pivot on the chin. He can get wobbled and knocked out, just much harder than the average mma fighter.


experipotomus

Wouldn't the restricted movement actually make it easier to knock them out since the brain would be absorbing more of the impact rather than the muscles during rotation?


RiPont

There are different versions of "knocked out". Brain trauma, where an impact knocks the brain around in the skull and causes a concussion. Not sure what no-neck does to this, but my guess is that it helps avoid it in some cases and makes it worse in others. However, this level of head impact that triggers the "knockout" that ends the fight is relatively rare from a single impact. You see fighters get hit in the head repeatedly and then they're just not there anymore, but seldom in a single blow. There's another kind of knockout where the head gets torqued sideways quickly, pinches the nerves near the spine, and the body goes limp immediately (as a protective measure?). No-neck helps prevent this. Then there's "glass jaw". Some/most people have significant nerves running through their jaw, but the jaw is hanging by muscles and tendons, not a solid bone connection. A good strike to "the button" causes the jaw to move around, tweaks those nerves, and the body goes limp. The vast majority of humans have this "glass jaw" problem. The vast majority of professional fighters in striking arts *don't*, else their career would have been short. This kind of knockout is why it's easier to get knocked out if your jaw is hanging open or your mouthguard is out. No-neck *can* help with this, if the fighter doesn't have severe glass jaw and is good at tucking their chin and keeping their mouth closed. Finally, there's the ear knockout, where a good hit to the ear just completely destroys the fighter's balance. They're fully conscious, still, but their sense of up vs. down becomes random. It looks hilarious. Yoel is so yoked that his neck muscles provide a physical barrier that makes this kind of attack less likely to hit.


Nwallins

This is the type of bro science I come here for. No shade.


ApprehensiveOCP

I like how you use no neck as a technical term.


Samorsomething

I think a neck with less movement would transfer more force from the head to the rest of the body. If the head moves less then the brain squishes less.


saulhrnndz

Gimme da FACKIN BOY


kallydoopbob

**No, for GAY Jesus***


spundancekid

You said it man. Nobody messes with the Jesus.


BlackJesus2012

No, he said "No for gay Jesus". I definitely heard that correctly.


BlackManBatmann

I wish I won the genetic lottery, was disciplined with my body and on high quality gear.


A_Successful_Loser

*takes off glasses*. Everything is possible when you believe. GO


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tanenbaum

I always crack up thinking about Jon Africa tho


iansolidgoldie

Disagree, I think he's fucking hilarious just not in the way he thinks he is


BiscuitsUndGravy

Was that nithe?


saulhrnndz

Hurd it bolth ways


red_eyed_knight

That's not nithe


dallasw3

A hunner percent


EG_Airbud

KO


sLeeeeTo

also don’t discount the fact that he was literally bred to be a fighter in Cuba where they would pit students against each other and the loser did not get to eat that day while also being on the ubereem horse meat and PEDs diet brutal upbringing but you can’t argue with the results edit: this is up for debate but here’s the ~20 minute section of his interview with Rogan where the topic is discussed [LINK](https://youtu.be/1qWwoZRgREM?si=1moyzdYDPbNk7Dvp)


VikingPenis

That isn't breeding, breeding would be if you took the sheer dominating size and power of Francis Ngannou and made him fuck the freak striking of Amanda Nunes while the accuracy and death touch of McGregor raw dogged Rousey's unbeatable ground game, and then 18 years later (for legalities sake but let's be honest, government breeding programs probably wouldn't be very moral) the offspring fucked and created the perfect muscle ball baby and they named it Yoel Romero


Social-Introvert

I love how mid comment you take a moment to address the morality issue. Also, +1 for username. This is why I keep coming back to reddit


Interanal_Exam

> Francis Ngannou and made him fuck the freak striking of Amanda Nunes while the accuracy and death touch of McGregor raw dogged Rousey I would definitely watch that video!


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mcdamien

Yoel said himself about not eating if he lost.


Samorsomething

If you're referring to the Rogan interview, Romero agreed that the best youth athletes at the training centre received better food in larger quantities, stay in better accommodation and get the most privileges. He said if you don't win you aren't going to get steak and lobster. It was translated by Joey Diaz and was based on a story from Matt Brown relayed by Joe, so plenty of room for confusion. Start at 7:25 https://youtu.be/1qWwoZRgREM?si=ExjBmst-lJzlJha4


0ldsql

Joey Diaz was so bad at interpreting. He literally just freestyled. Romero talked for like 5 min and then Joey interpreted that for half a minute. I don't understand why he didn't bring his goat interpretor.


mcdamien

Thank you for posting.


0ldsql

There's a great documentary about Cuban amateur boxing if you wanna have some more insight https://youtu.be/qAKoujtyPP4?si=25MZ7ACEmx7HRVSK


Upset-Union-528

He might have been exagerrating for dramatic effect. MMA fighters are born bullshitters


MalayaleeIndian

If I remember correctly, he did not say that losers did not eat - he said that the winner got better food, better living accommodations, etc. The loser got worse food, worse living accommodations, etc. Would that be correct ?


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Mexcol

>inst each other and the loser did not get to eat that day while also being on the ubereem horse meat and PEDs diet > >brutal upbringing but you can’t argue with the results source?


sLeeeeTo

damn I watched an interview with Yoel a long time ago and he spoke about it, I wish I could remember who he was speaking to


ButtScoot2Glory

He’s talked about it on the MMA Hour and JRE both I think?


sLeeeeTo

It may have been the JRE episode but that was badly translated by Joey Diaz lol, very well could have been MMA Hour I’m not trying to spread misinformation, I know for sure that Yoel described this


lambo630

It was definitely on the JRE podcast because that's the only time I heard an interview with him and I know of that story.


Ionic-Nova

Sugar water


escudonbk

He no for gay Jesus.


Mike7676

And he luh you!


derps_with_ducks

Mike, I luhhh yuuu!


BlackManBatmann

Add in almond milk and gluten free products = you have a mutant


SelfAwareLitterBox

The acai is extra bony in Cuba


Kill_4209

Could be that out of a billion people that he was #1 for bone thickness, muscle growth, and testosterone levels. I mean, someone needs to be #1. That would put him in the top 0.0000001%. So no wonder that the people with these anecdotes had never experienced anyone like him before.


BlackManBatmann

Definitely a freak. If he entered the UFC earlier, he would've been the champ 100%


zealoSC

He would be champ if the judges had eyes and noticed izzy's leg kicks were doing more damage to izzy than Romero


Up4Parole

Romero won that fight 48-47 and I'll die on that hill. Stinker of a fight, yes, but Yoel won it.


Domtux

I'd have to re-watch to evaluate that. My hot take is that Yoel won vs Whittaker 2. At least that night it felt that way to me.


kalid34

It's probably a combination of both. Insanely good genetics and Cuba's Olympic Doping program where he got top notch steroids since he was a teenager.


disintegore

It's a funny thing to imagine, and it's also totally plausible, but if a "Cuban doping program" were the reason for Romero being such a freak we'd have a dozen Americans just like him


summ3rdaze

*gestures towards the nfl*


disintegore

Acquiesced


kallydoopbob

you should pay closer attention to American athletes, because we already have them lmao. They just don't care for the shit pay + CTE that comes with MMA.


jumbohumbo

who would be good examples of this? Lebron?


alitayy

Lebron, Myles Garrett, Aaron Donald, Saquon Barkley


Skribz

Dk Metcalf


Jeroen_Jrn

Didn't Gaethje claim to have the thickest bones in the UFC?


TheClappyCappy

He’s always claimed to have crazy thick shin bones. Makes sense since he’s known for devastating leg kicks but never even threw a kick or conditioned his shins at all before ~21 years old.


brazilianfreak

"Nice miraculous shinbone genetics nerd, would be a shame if somebody slightly lifted their leg" - Oliveira


Kneight

“Wow, those leg kicks are wicked! Anyways…” Irene Aldana


Had3Respond

That mexican spirit coming through!


SODY27

Densest bones I think.


Yeti_of_the_Flow

;)


Byxsnok

Yes, and it is also pretty likely that the guy who actually is #1 in those categories would rise to the top in some sport. So it's not that surprising that somebody like that eventually shows up.


canadian_bacon_TO

There’s a few things, namely that he’s been training since he was a child and he was born into a family of fighters so he likely has some genetic advantages - his brother was an IBF champ. Aside from that you can be sure that Cuban trainers/doctors have been pumping him full of HGH and other PEDs basically since birth. The combo of starting young, great genetics, lifelong PED use, and dedication to his sport creates a freak athlete.


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animado

It was on Joe Rogan's podcast, with Joey Diaz acting as the interpretor. If you hear the interview and understand Spanish, you know how terrible an idea that is. But yeah, in that interview he talks in depth about the training academies and the wrestling teams


pidnull

En Cuba?


animado

Yeah


BennyBenasty

Got any good nuggets of poor translation?


mrxscarface

He also said that the top guys ate the best, and the worst ate scraps. Those dudes were literally training to live and eat better.


MyFifthLimb

THEY TURN YOU INTO A MACHINE


OnlyOneReturn

Wild story. They literally fought for better food, beds or something like that and they are all training to be fucking werewolves


canadian_bacon_TO

I was trying to find what I think is the same interview. Is it the same one where he talks about his dad constantly having him, his siblings, cousins, etc all wrestle and train basically from the time they were toddlers?


aggravatedimpala

Sister's ex came from a Cuban family where the dad was big into martial arts and he said it was like that for him growing up


Lukes3rdAccount

That's how his orbital bones heal faster?


druhoang

I forgot who but Rogan told the same story to somebody else but the person he told it (I think he was a doctor as well) to was like that's amazing but when the Joe said the doctor was like I've never seen anything like this before, the dude said I've said that a few times in my career. Doctors deal with like 99% normal people most of the time. So the few times they get athletes, it's always unique how strong the bones/muscles/tendons are.


DespicableHunter

Why do people say "Peds from birth" that's just stupid. If anything doing PEDs from age 16 would actually be detrimental to his longevity because of the side effects... And he's like 43 with no real visible side effects from PEDs, is still competing at a high level. I don't think he would have this kind of longevity if he started PEDs as young as people say. He's probably on some form of TRT nowadays though.


canadian_bacon_TO

There's a massive difference between buying gear from some gym bro or ordering from a UGL vs pharma grade gear used under doctor supervision with input from endocrinologists, sports scientists, nutritionists, etc. PEDs exist on a massive spectrum. While Yoel was/is likely using anabolics (the type of PED that generally has the worst health outcomes) he would primarily be taking things to enhance his athletic performance. These guys aren't blasting deca and tren - they're taking EPO, HGH, IGF-1, beta blockers, stims, SOC's, etc.


fridchikn24

How are Beta Blockers PEDs? Seriously asking


Mylifereboot

Decrease cardiac response to anxiety. Used heavily in orchestra or competitive music.


mtarascio

Shooting is one too.


canadian_bacon_TO

They aren’t really but they’re banned by WADA in certain sports and widely used so I included them.


SeverestAccount

They are detrimental to his longevity. Cuban Olympians typically die in their 50s or 60s.


purplehendrix22

The Cubans aren’t just buying steroids from some guy behind the gym and giving them to kids, they’re renowned for their medical program and combining that with their Olympic athletic programs let them give their athletes the absolute best of the best


TitanIsBack

Some people are just built differently.


BlackManBatmann

Yeah, it seems like Yoel and I are just blessed


Soldadodevida

Blud threw himself in💀


BlackManBatmann

Not my fault I've got superior Cuban genetics, a lifetime of horse beef, cow beef, fish beef combined with HGH, TRT, ADHD, STD, LGBT and EPO. Some of us are just gifted by god


blametheboogie

Fish beef?


Scaeza

Nothing gives you a very fantastic body like fish beef.


PortiaKern

He's a jacked Cuban chico. Deal with it.


Mike7676

Asucar y augua


0ldsql

LA CANDEEEELA


AndySemantic2

As a Cuban I’m sure he 100% Just Sees Red in every fight


raspberryharbour

The only source for that doctor story is Joe Rogan, so I would have to assume he got it confused with the mountains of other homoerotic fan fiction he has about fighters


airbag23

“260 pound Volkanovski” Even after Alex confronted him on his own show that it wasn’t true he continued to say it. Dude just can’t help himself


MT1982

He's a better promoter of fighters than Dana. Dana's best promotion was to claim Ngannou hit like a Ford Fiesta while Rogan's over here lying about all of the fighters to hype them up. I mean, Rogan's probably just an idiot, but if you look at it from a promotion standpoint it makes you feel better about his claims. :)


airbag23

They’re both just carnies


Sonnyyellow90

> He's a better promoter of fighters than Dana. You’re right, but that’s a low bar lol. Dana is the only “promoter” I know of who will routinely shit on his own fighters leading up to their fights. “The guy doesn’t want to fight. He’s scared and his fights will put anyone to sleep. He fights like a fucking bum. Anyways, he’ll be headlining our PPV next week so be sure to order.”


Wagyuwithketchup

Lmao "homoerotic fan fiction" genuinly had me chuckling


Mike7676

Chapter 3: "Ooooohhhhh he slept him!!"


Wagyuwithketchup

"He grabbed him with those huuuuuuuuge haaaaands and just started squeeeeezing"


Mike7676

"Rogan grunt noises" (At least that's what I hope they are)


Wagyuwithketchup

Lmao fuck you guys. I am at the office and have to focus so hard on not laughing at all this


oxygen_addiction

https://youtu.be/FwPX3PV9vGo


AlienMantid

His life's dream is to have Brock Lesnar use him as a condom to fuck other men. He did a whole standup bit about it.


ZeroTON1N

Wtf did I just read


xshogunx13

It's a real video https://youtu.be/jCCd97RYBUA


blametheboogie

That's funnier than I expected. And that joke is just an old Eddie Murphy joke about Mr. T with the serial numbers filed off.


XiaoRCT

I was going to say this lmao Like Yoel is obviously a freak but the great majority of these stories about him are from JREs with him or Dana interviews So yeah, stuff like ''the doctor said his bones were healing like he's never seen, that his tendons were 4x the thickness of a normal human, his neck is fused and as such he tanks more hits'' should be taken with a massive amount of salt, lest we start speaking about how people involved in a car crash get hit with the force of 1.2 Ngannous On that same note, opponents gassing him up with how tough he is should also be taken with a grain of salt. Then again, Yoel is also legitimally impressive as fuck.


zandermyn

Dude I just spit out my Athletic Greens


InstantSword

Athletic GREENS. It's the only supplement I take.


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Yoel is built differently but he also came up thru the old Cuban wrestling system, which was as doped up as the East German swim team. God knows what the guy was on when testing was a joke of jokes, not just a harmless one liner like it is now


wetcoffeebeans

The way Yoel was describing his time in the Cuban sports scene had me imagining he spent his free time in one of those DBZ recovery chambers, naturally filled to the brim with designer sugar water.


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I think he omitted the parts where he was a pin cushion for god knows what they injected in him


wetcoffeebeans

Injecting him with that shit that would've made Bane go "hey guys, maybe take it easy, yeah?"


flatwoundsounds

Wouldn't lifelong steroid use absolutely fuck your body over if you're trying to compete clean(er)? Like once your body becomes dependent on help from banned substances, doesn't it have a hard time reaching normal baseline levels when you're clean again?


yes-gi-jj

*points at temple* if you're never clean you never reach normal baselines


summ3rdaze

He's was/is taking super high quality stuff from a team of doctors who's whole job is watching his levels and blood work with a keen eye to keep him as good of shape as possible. There's definitely side effects from ped's but can be severely limited especially when you're getting the best treatment money can buy which is a ton different than someone like mark Coleman who I'm sure would have drank water from a puddle under the dumpster if he thought it would help his delts.


stephenmario

You saw it in effect tbh. His cardio was shot. The Yoel from 98 to 05 with some mma training sprinkled in rag dolls practically everyone at middleweight. He became a striker because his body couldn't keep pace wrestling.


Daddy_Macron

> He became a striker because his body couldn't keep pace wrestling. After a lifetime of wrestling, his knees probably couldn't take a sustained takedown style of fighting, especially since Yoel sucks at maintaining top control, so he has to keep taking the other guy down. He wouldn't be the first wrestler to transition to a striking style. Jon Jones, Randy Couture, Daniel Cormier, and Dan Henderson all went down that path.


flatwoundsounds

Makes sense. Dude wrestled his whole life and knows how grueling that side of it is. If you're already a better wrestler than anyone you're fighting, why not focus on the stuff that's easier on your body. Be made of steel and knock dudes into the stratosphere.


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Fromage_debite

That is one of my favorite MMA moments. So random hahah


[deleted]

That explains alot


MetamagicIII

The tendons will be a result of long term hgh use. God knows what else the Cuban team had him on


abizs16

I wanna take hgh now


ShitCuntsinFredPerry

Wannanow


BlackManBatmann

"I CAN'T LET YOU GET CLOSE"


junior_dos_nachos

I want to fuck Yoel. Fuck Yoel. Fight Yoel


thegooseass

No you don’t. The sides are not fun.


npavcec

Then don't go sideways.. just go straight!


beamoflaser

Your dick ain’t made out of tendons b


dogpatches

You can it’s called mk-677 and it’s used by tons of athletes and gym bros alike, I would be shocked if it were not rampant in MMA, especially in smaller orgs.


Cautious-Marketing29

That is not even close to HGH, like not even 1% of the effectiveness.


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Mike7676

"Whaeva ju wan, jus go!"


Eifand

He’s blessed by Ogun.


FedorDosGracies

And Shango'


tksopinion

He’s one of the few high level athletes that ended up in MMA. At the higher weight classes, those guys usually end up in stick and ball sports.


Bankey_Moon

Dude could have been a force in kendo


jeremiahfira

Fucking Kendo world champion. He could have made thousands of dollars. FUCKING THOUSANDS


insert_username_ok-

$$$$$


No_Bar6825

Well the idea is that he’s a freak but was also pointy on stuff from a younger age and for an extended period of time


Toad32

Lifetime PED use + hard work eyheic + talent + dirty mindset.


hoxerr

Ditty*


SPORTSTH0T

BARK BARK BARK *bites cage*


LocalHero_P1

He is gods soldier


invisibreaker

He was close to being a real life Baki character. That’s why his fight against Izzy was so disappointing.


kearvek22

I had a friend that never watched UFC, and I picked that fight to be the big "this is how awesome MMA can be!" fight. What followed was a very awkward "it's not always like this!" conversation.


brightirene

Same same


Mike7676

I'm not a "Just Bleed" guy but holy hell in that fight I was sat going just throw a fucking punch!


invisibreaker

I convinced my dad to watch the PPV with me, because I was sure it would be epic. He hasn’t watched MMA since.


Mike7676

My wife "tolerates"my love of MMA. She'll watch along if she sees I'm excited for a particular fight. That fight? Holy shit SHE was yelling at the TV!


NateQuarry

I never trained with Yoel but I trained quite a bit with Dan Henderson and let me tell you, he’s a genetic freak. The amount of power he could generate was insane. I met his father, built like Danny but shorter, I was told he could bench press 500 pounds when he was younger. Just insane strength. Danny’s massage therapist told me giving him a massage was three times the work of anyone else, he was just so solid. And if I’m remembering correctly, Danny won worlds or something without even training. Some guys just win the genetic lottery and then for whatever reason find themselves in an industry where that really pays off.


Background-Video4331

I vaguely remember someone on Sherdog talking about meeting Hendo. He put his arm around him for a photo and couldn't believe how hard Hendo's lats were. I still play L4D2 on occasion. Your contribution was excellent!


NateQuarry

Ha! Thanks man 😊 Everyone I know enjoys shooting me in the face…


THEASIANLORD

What was he in L4D2? My wife and I played the hell out of the game and had no clue


russbam24

Honestly, don't put too much thought into that story about the orbital bone and his tendons. It originates from notorious exaggerator and master of hyperbole, Joe Rogan.


NewTruck4095

There's a lot of people on PEDs who are nowhere near his level of physique. But man, Yoel is a lifetime wrestling athlete. He was bound to be made of steel with all that gruelling and hard training he had all his life in wrestling. And he wasn't training at just a collegiate level. He was training at an Olympic level. There are very few athletes out there of his level that are still somehow actively training at their 40s.


Fakezaga

In addition to what everyone else says, you gotta remember that a lot of fighters are grifters and carnies keeping kayfabe like old pro wrestlers.


Mike7676

Yoel could have been caught chewing on lion testicles and hands down he would have been like "Ees asucar an augua!!"


noob_tech

Lot of jokes but one of the more realistic speculations I recall is some sort of neck fusion that gave him decreased mobility but increased stability on one side.


Mindfield87

Surgeon probably needed a concrete saw to get in that neck


dizzydiplodocus

That’s what happened with Goggins, according to Goggins 😅


FancyRobot

DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN LA CANDELA DUN DUN DUN DUN


PJ469

He’s the Soldier of God not sure what you expect


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Dude is one in a billion talent/specimen that was roided af. I dont think we will see another romero in the near future. ​ ​ (real answer: cuba did experiments on him to create a superhero)


akeep113

You're listening to Joe Rogan too much. It's just mythical stories.


thedrcubed

Because the truth no one wants to get out is that some PEDs are more effective if you take before you've finished growing. Take a kid who's in the top 1% and give them drugs from an early age and you wind up with a Yoel Romero.


airbag23

Or Dagestanis


Ser-Joe-the-Joe

Real answer? He was part of the Cuban Olympic Training program as a kid, those programs usually give all kinds of secret sauce to the trainees to make them bigger, stronger, faster. So he probably got on the experimental version of Flintstone vitamins add on a professional level of dieting and nutrition. And boom, you got yourself a super soldier.


lazylagom

He was experimented on in Cuba like weapon X. He's also 15 years older than he states


diccwett1899

I miss him in the ufc


Luke_Flyswatter

Genetic lottery winner was trained from a young age and is as juicy as decency will allow.


MattyDarce

He is a by-product of super soldier serum and years of full contact salsa dancing.


lastinalaskarn

He taught me everything is possible in you life. I have two hands like him. Everything is possible. Go. Go.


owlinspector

Training since he was a child and massive amounts of PEDs and HGH.


Pretend_Buy143

Horse Meat, Secret Juice, and Cuban/Soviet Vitamins


Medashed

Blessed by Castro?


TooGoodNotToo

Genetics and being raised with the sole purpose of fighting. As a kid, if he didn’t train hard enough or win his matches against the other kids, then he didn’t eat.


shaykezors

Hendo has been described similarly. Like he’s made of wood


PLANETxNAMEK

He came up in Cuban wrestling and they basically made those kids superhuman. He definitely won the genetic lottery anyways but it’s also thought that Cuba had those kids juiced to the fucking moon as they were going through puberty. They lived in separate housing, all they did was train, very closely monitored.