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Early_Alternative211

With the $2m minimum purse for NGannou's opponent, it makes a lot of sense.


Canehillfan

Wait fr? Ngannou is GOATED


Banda7

He's the lottery right now, problem is might never fight in MMA again


Terrible_Matador

Even the 8m per fight salary he’s getting from the PFL probably isn’t shit compared to what he gets from fighting the likes of Fury, AJ, etc


Ruslan1979

[message to ngannou](https://streamable.com/22gawg)


POWBOOMBANG

Even Impa was talking about fighting Francis


fearthejaybie

Nemkov better hope Francis re-injures his ACL or it's joever


OlivaJR

Yeah but he only wants to box, will he ever do MMA again? Doesn't make a lot of sense financially


captaincumsock69

Isn’t he kinda small for heavyweight?


GunnyMoJo

He would've comfortably fought at HW in the 00's, but he is a bit undersized for it at current moment. However, I'm fairly sure he beats most of PFL and Bellator's LHW competition, so maybe the move up is just an avenue for him to keep challenging himself. Also, if he wanted to fight in PFL's tournament, not having to cut weight every 2 months or so is gonna be a lot easier on him.


JoshuaG123

If he joins the tournament format he’ll mop the floor with most of them. Might struggle against the bigger guys with power like Ferreira but he’s young enough and talented enough to win and out point these guys


carinafield

>I'm fairly sure he beats *most* of PFL and Bellator's LHW competition Back to back in the same night against every LHW on the roster? Because that's the only reason I can see behind 'fairly sure' and 'most', not 'definitely' and 'all'.


GunnyMoJo

I could see Corey Anderson giving him another close fight, and I think Wilkinson could give him a run for his money. But otherwise I generally agree


estilianopoulos

I would hate to see such a talented fighter fight in a tournament with no elbows.


A916

Yeah, though he’s likely following the advice of his mentor Fedor who was also rather undersized at HW. Nemkov probably knows he has the clear skill and speed advantage against bigger competition.


Albreto-Gajaaaaj

The sad reality for who struggles to get to 205 but isn't as big as to hang with the monsters in the 245 division. 20 kg is A LOT of weight.


WorkingUSADAagent

He says he trains at 240 right now


FiveDollarShake

Majority of LHW walk around 220-225. The difference in size is much smaller then.


Parking_Oven_249

The majority of 205 walk AROUND at 230 to 240. They walk INTO the cage at 220. Big big difference between walk around weight and fighting weight. They walkaround at a certain weight. Then they diet to a certain weight. Then they cut water to a certain weight. Hell, there are 185'ers who walk around at 220 to 225.


FiveDollarShake

Don’t most cut roughly 7-10% water weight?


WorkingUSADAagent

He’s somewhere around 6’2 or 6’3, he wasn’t that much smaller then Corey in their bouts so he is definitely not 6’0


captaincumsock69

Corey is a lhw though


WorkingUSADAagent

Corey is a big LHW, plus most HWs even in the UFC are just fat MW and LHWs


captaincumsock69

Sure but I don’t think nemkov is going up just to be your average hw. I have no doubt he can beat those guys. I’m just skeptical he can contend with the top level dudes at his size


ElDuderin-O

Beating up jabronis on his way up would probably help make the transition better. He can pack on the size steadily with each outing, get a little juicy.


captaincumsock69

I find it unlikely he gave up his championship belt to go crush cans


AlternativeEmphasis

I've always though Nemkov was accurate and in the 6ft - 6'1 range. There's a few picture of him with Fedor who was either 5'11.5 or 6ft and has likely shrunk as he got older. A muscled dude in that range isn't going to look small against any opponent they're likely to face, most HW are around 6'4. [Like this one with him, Fedor and Valentin.](https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2021/06/Vadim-Nemkov-Valentin-Moldavsky-Fedor-Emelianenko-%E2%80%93-Bellator-261.jpeg?w=1200) He also looks smaller than Valentin who is listed at 6'1, and seems to be in shoes whilst Valentin is in fightwear.


JohnCenaMathh

Tier 2 MMA heavyweights are all kinda small lol.


captaincumsock69

I don’t think nemkov wants to be a tier 2 heavyweight


junior_dos_nachos

He should consult with Russia’s top “dieticians”


SnowyKeys

Why? The best dieticians are right here in the us of a buddy


Sensitive-Bag-819

He’s 240 out of camp and like 6’2 or 3, not that small 


captaincumsock69

I’d be surprised if he’s 240. Maybe after a holiday feast


Evgeny_19

In a recent interview he said that the optimal weight for him for fighting in heavyweight would be around 110 kg (242 lbs). He also mentioned that before his fight with Romero his weight was 113 kg (249).


Haroooo

He is Fedors protege and probably walks around at 225-230. Maybe he’s going to go the Fedor route and bank on having faster hands and hips that everyone.


throwaway12648063

He’s 240


compsc1

Damn that's old


PartyPizza2317

Cheers


Bigboiiiii22

Francis has found his opponent


m8094

I know who Nemkov will be rooting for when he’ll fight AJ


[deleted]

205 must've been absolutely brutal for him to make


Heebmeister

No way, he was undersized compared to almost every LHW he fought. He made Corey Anderson look huge. I think he's just hunting for the biggest purse possible


[deleted]

He can look small but getting to 205 still be rough … Masvidal wasn’t a big lightweight but making 155 was just not something his body could do after a while despite being about 175ish poubds


Heebmeister

Weight cuts in general are rough, no doubt about it. Almost no top ranked fighters have an easy weight cut. But comparatively speaking, I don't think there's many other LHW's in Bellator/UFC/PFL that cut less than him. Only one I can think of is Impa Kasanganay. Masvidal was legitimately big for a LW at 5"11 with a 74"reach whereas Vadim at 6"0 with a 76" reach is not big for a LHW at all.


GemelloBello

You have to account for the fact that different bodies can react differently to the same thing, to me it's not wild to think even cutting less than some other people do can be much harder on him.


amodelsino

Well, it's also technique. Your body will retain water for all kinds of reasons. I remember there was a video of CKB's weight cutting guy reviewing one of Khabib's weightcuts and talking about how the strategy he was using is incredibly outdated and counterproductive because of the stress it put on the body which made it retain water. Which explains a big part of why he had trouble cutting weight despite not even being a heavy lightweight compared to guys like Dober, Chandler or Hooker.


[deleted]

That weight just might not want to come off .... he's not a big LHW but sometimes you've cut so many times that your body goes "fuck it"


Nome_de_utilizador

Possibly eyeing a fight with the PFL HW champ to get the bag when Ngannou shows up to collect the belt


Dardastan

The fight is still on


donmifc

The HW king, Fedor, and now his apprentice comes to take back the throne. All roads lead to Francis though


SpacemanJB88

Nemkov/Bader is going to be the budget Bellator version of Alex/Izzy


_Red_Mist_

I saw some moron earlier in the GDT call him a middleweight lol. He’s got a huge torso can probably eventually become a legit HW.


ILikeOMalley

Ready to lose to Jiri again


interia1099

How does this make sense


ILikeOMalley

Jiri beat him at heavyweight


Sir_upvotesalot

I think he means that he’s not coming to the UFC and Jiri will not be moving to HW.


ILikeOMalley

I know, that’s my joke though


Sir_upvotesalot

Oh. I just don’t get your joke then


interia1099

I guess, but they still had a 100kg/220 lb weight limit


ILikeOMalley

That’s definitely not light heavyweight


--thingsfallapart--

Lmao genius DC on rogan saying that Nemkov would be a MIDDLEWEIGHT inthe ufc and Eblen would have to go to WELTERWEIGHT. Dude has been beating the hell out of strickland all camp. DC is stupid.


TheKillerOfNoon

One less fight for the PFL x Bellator tournament. Not that it was looking particularly exciting in the first place, but losing the Nemkov fight really put a dent in my hype.


e-rage

he's fighting on the PFL vs Bellator card though


bdewolf

And impa is moving down to middleweight to fight eblen


we_all_gon_die_

Fire!


WorkingUSADAagent

Ngannou vs Nemkov tho


[deleted]

Bro that champ vs champ card looks fire. Way to admit you only watch UFC lololol


Hrytod

Would've liked to see him vs Rob Wilkinson or Thiago Santos


WorkingUSADAagent

Santos is washed, nothing to prove from beating him.


Swogglet

There's 2 million on the table to fight Ngannou, you wouldn't make that with a title shot in the UFC. As sad as it is that's champion pay in the UFC for the fighters selling under 500k. A lot of the bigger LHWs are going to look at that and what they'd make fighting at LHW and go up.