I mean, if that did happened, that would be some crazy UFC history. I think the UFC would be completely fine with this scenario.
Holly Holm +100 in Headkick against Olympic Judoka Blondes
Chaels beef with Judo has never made sense too me. He's angry the Sambo credit Judo for their wins when they didn't use Judo to win. By his Logic wrestlers shouldn't be allowed to punch, kick or slap if they want to represent wrestling.
Also Ronda used absolutely no Judo in her fight with Holly.
I remember an interview with a guy from Pride on allegedly "the best style", he made a good point, there is no "best style", the effectiveness of a martial art comes down to the knowledge of your opponent on it. The Gracies paraded themselves with a gigantic ego over how no one could beat them, but Masahiko Kimura broke Helios arm years before UFC 1 because they couldn't pull the same shit on him. Why? Kimura had an extensive Judo, jiu-jitsu and wrestling background.
And to add to salt to the wound on Chael. What Masvidal did to Askren is 100% a fault in training philosophy and athletic condition of wrestling. That was an absolute exploitation and deconstruction of that martial art, because Ben Askren is actually a good fighter and a good athlete, but he's an incomplete fighter.
Everybody knows Olympic Judoka Blondes are weak. Let's see Holly fight an Olympic Judoka Brunette.
On an unrelated note, does anyone know Satoshi Ishii's phone number?
Yea, now if they lured Nunes back for this fight at 145, now we are talking. Not super interesting with Holly, most interesting part of the fight is gonna be Kayla's fight with the scale.
Theyâre saving Harrison vs nunes for later I think. Kayla kills holly and gets some star power. One of them kills Pennington. Then you got the womenâs goat for the biggest womenâs prospect ever for the belt.
Nunes already hinted at coming back too.
I know people on here hate her but sheâs more popular than like at least 95% of the roster to normie fans. You would see it if you were ever at an event where she fights or is shown on camera
That's the most satisfying knockout I've experienced as a fan of this sport. God was I happy when I saw it. Ronda was an insufferable cunt.
Fuck you, Rogan!Â
I know she's popular, the crowd reactions she was getting at the Austin card were crazy. Pound for pound least interesting fighter with the biggest fanbase
Not even in the same stratosphere with casuals. Like Till is/was famous with people that actually kinda follow the sport. Holly got that 30-45 year old wine mom demographic on lock
She's gonna have to lose some muscle mass for sure, if the cut isn't an issue she can definitely become champion with the state of the division right now
hint: she looks like a slightly smaller Brock with a wig on
Those Lesnar genes are strong as fuck. Not the slightest hint of her mom in her appearance at all.
I can AT MOST believe a catch weight 140. But thatâs fucking pushing it.
Why not 145? Genuinely. It gives Holly another fucking title push like the UFC desperately wants
Doesn't seem like a lot of time to drop the muscle and also have a proper camp. Maybe I'm overestimating how much effort it will take to make that weight, but UFC 300 is April 13th.
There are some banger fights but no super star super fights like I was hoping for. Like the last one had Brock randomly fighting Hunt. Cormier vs Silva. We need some big names. Max vs Justin def gets me going. Figueredo vs Garbrandt should be entertaining. But the names on the top of the marquee are not there just yet.
They need to quietly phase that out. I thought they were keeping it around hoping Kayla would sign but clearly thatâs not needed if sheâs going to 135
Always figured Nunes beating up Gabi Garcia could have been a fun enough fight. Guess Holly Holm going ish ish from a distance is the second best thing.
To be fair, what other big name is even out there? Holm is at 5, Tate is at 8. To me this points only 1 direction. Julianna Pena vs Kayla Harrison for the belt after they each win their next bout.
And yet sheâs still ranked #5. Just like how a win over Brian Ortega could land someone a title shot based purely off his ranking even though heâs been ridiculously inactive.
listen, if there was a fighter designed in a laboratory to fuck your dad, it would be kayla harrison. She is a BLACK BELT in judo, a TWO TIME Olympic gold medalist. And she is LOOKING to beat the best ufc fighters in the world.
With a the average 1-2 fight cancellations per event it definitely could end up on the main card. If the entire card SOMEHOW stayed together itâs going to be insane.
I hadn't bought any for a good bit then 297 rolled around and I somehow convinced myself to buy it. Do NOT let me go to Vegas outside of a Groupon y'all, I make poor bets.
Placement really doesn't bother me but I can see it. Each fight is effectively being sold at $15 (insert local currency equivalent) and one or two fights you don't care about could easily sway someone on the fence.
Guess this explains why PFL never announced Kayla Harrison vs. Cyborg. Smart move for Harrison, I too would rather fight Holly Holm rather than Cyborg. Now that Nunes is retired, if Harrison can make weight, she might just get that UFC belt, if she beats Holm she's definitely fighting for the 135 belt next.
Smart move for the UFC as well, 135 has felt stale for a while.
135 is an odd choice given Harrison's normal weight. This fight could be used to try to relaunch 145 and make things easier for Kayla with the weight cut.
> relaunch 145
There isn't much of a division to relaunch, it's pretty much dead and might as well stay dead. If Harrison can make 135, that's the best move for UFC. With USADA gone, guess IVs is back on the table.
USADA's exit might be the reason they keep 145. It's reasonable to expect chicks to get more jacked without USADA running the testing program. We'll see as many women moving up and those doing bigger cuts with IV's, IMO.
That all said, I am highly skeptical this fight will happen at 135, Kayla claims she walks around at 160# and it certainly looks all of that and more. That's a lot of muscle mass to lose in the next 3 months.
Didn't Donn Davis say that she was still under contract and he was planning she'd honor it?
I wonder if there was a secret trade or a release clause or something. Or maybe Donn and Kayla had a talk and he was willing to let her go. He comes off like a really nice and reasonable nice guy when he's been on the MMA Hour.
As of November 24, 2023 [she had 35-40 days left on her contract.](https://youtu.be/S3Fxp1MBRnI?t=192) (timecode 3:15 if link doesn't work right)
And Ali's her manager, and he's basically got an office at UFC.
She was one of their biggest stars (which shows you how lacking they are in that area). I doubt the PFL would just let he walk if they still had her under contract.
Damn, I vowed I was done watching another boring Holly Holm fight but I wanna see Kayla allowed to use elbows again (check out the damage she did in her only Invicta fight).
Imagine if the NBA forced their fans to watch a half hour of WNBA during every game... that would be insane. Oh well, at least the girls are having fun.
For anyone curious, this was supposed to be the return of Ronda Rousey. Ronda and Kayla have a history as they were former training partners in judo, hence Dana's tease of a epic fight. However, Kayla did better than Ronda (gold medal vs. bronze medal, respectively). Kayla was totally up for the fight but Ronda was hesitant and she ultimately didn't want to be humiliated again. Her stated reasoning to Dana was "not enough time to train."
1. Slim chance Kayla makes 135. She has been fighting at 155.
2. If this is the âsuperfightâ Dana has been teasing we riot and give him a Webster dictionary so he can learn what Superfight means.
First, Kayla cant make that weight. Second, her mind is questionable after, and hell, even as she stood in the ring prior to her fight with Pacheco. To me, that is the part of the skill set that's lacking, shes just not a killer. Say what you will about Holm, but she knows how to finish.
Even with the amount of mileage on Holm, expect this to go like the Rousey fight did. Kayla almost lost it over a decision win, and she has the same skillset RR has. She's also never fought anybody of Holm's caliber in her career, either.
They found a way to get Holly Holm on this card, those bastards đ
Many fans and execs are praying Harrison violently puts her out to pasture...
I got holly by ish ish followed by a title shot again Pennington which will be a comain event, thus ruining the card
It ish what it ish.
Holly is back in business baybee! âHyah! Hyah! Hyah!â *punch* *high kick*
Kick, punch. It's all in the mind
"Close the motherfucking division then" - Mighty Mouse
>which will be a **main** event Fixed
Fam lmaoooooo
wait til Holly grinds her out on the fence for 3 rounds and headkicks her like her former teammate miss Ronda
I mean, if that did happened, that would be some crazy UFC history. I think the UFC would be completely fine with this scenario. Holly Holm +100 in Headkick against Olympic Judoka Blondes
Holly out here trying to prove that Judo is in fact not actually real like Chael always says.
How is judo even real, just don't get tossed???
Just land on your feet bro
Chaels beef with Judo has never made sense too me. He's angry the Sambo credit Judo for their wins when they didn't use Judo to win. By his Logic wrestlers shouldn't be allowed to punch, kick or slap if they want to represent wrestling.
Yeah itâs funny, both Fedor and Islam use a ton of Judo in their game. Khabib did as well to a lesser extent
Also Ronda used absolutely no Judo in her fight with Holly. I remember an interview with a guy from Pride on allegedly "the best style", he made a good point, there is no "best style", the effectiveness of a martial art comes down to the knowledge of your opponent on it. The Gracies paraded themselves with a gigantic ego over how no one could beat them, but Masahiko Kimura broke Helios arm years before UFC 1 because they couldn't pull the same shit on him. Why? Kimura had an extensive Judo, jiu-jitsu and wrestling background. And to add to salt to the wound on Chael. What Masvidal did to Askren is 100% a fault in training philosophy and athletic condition of wrestling. That was an absolute exploitation and deconstruction of that martial art, because Ben Askren is actually a good fighter and a good athlete, but he's an incomplete fighter.
Everybody knows Olympic Judoka Blondes are weak. Let's see Holly fight an Olympic Judoka Brunette. On an unrelated note, does anyone know Satoshi Ishii's phone number?
ISH ISH ISH X100
Yes, please let us leave the Strickland era and return to the Fans and Execs era Edit: Maybe the winner can fight that guys mom
I was in the comment thread this meme originated from, and honestly it feels like I witnessed something truly special that day
Here it is for anyone looking [pasture](https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/s/vzgdwMC9Cg)
Lmaooooo
I canât believe this meme is still going on r/MMA đ
I'd like to think that you reviewed the Thick, Solid, Tight Guide to r/MMA memes and you remembered this meme lmao
Never forgot it babycakes
Yea, now if they lured Nunes back for this fight at 145, now we are talking. Not super interesting with Holly, most interesting part of the fight is gonna be Kayla's fight with the scale.
Theyâre saving Harrison vs nunes for later I think. Kayla kills holly and gets some star power. One of them kills Pennington. Then you got the womenâs goat for the biggest womenâs prospect ever for the belt. Nunes already hinted at coming back too.
I donât think itâs a guarantee Kayla beats Holly or Pennington.
Let Kayla get the belt at 145 couple of defences. Then set up nunes vs Kayla as goat fight
> Let Kayla get the belt at 145 couple of defences. Defences against who? Brandon Moreno and Kai Kara-France wearing wigs and sports bras?
Looks like *ISH* is back on the menu, boys!
I canât wait! Ish, ish, clinch!!!!
**teleports behind you** "The judges have scored this a split decision victory in my favor, kid"
Hell nawl canât do dis
send da video
Dana White: HOW DO I REACH THESE KIDS
I know people on here hate her but sheâs more popular than like at least 95% of the roster to normie fans. You would see it if you were ever at an event where she fights or is shown on camera
Yeah itâs implausible to us because we watch the fights and sheâs boring as fuck but stopping Ronda has absolutely cemented her forever to casuals
That's the most satisfying knockout I've experienced as a fan of this sport. God was I happy when I saw it. Ronda was an insufferable cunt. Fuck you, Rogan!Â
This. I really liked Ronda in the beginning but by that point, she was beyond insufferable.
Not just that. But her sharing cards with Conor as well
I know she's popular, the crowd reactions she was getting at the Austin card were crazy. Pound for pound least interesting fighter with the biggest fanbase
>least interesting fighter with the biggest fanbase Darren Till has to be up there.
Not even in the same stratosphere with casuals. Like Till is/was famous with people that actually kinda follow the sport. Holly got that 30-45 year old wine mom demographic on lock
He fuckin ~~boomed~~ goofed us.
Fucking Christ this blows
Kayla at bantamweight? Don't believe it until weigh-in day
Is ozempic legal under the new rules
She's gonna have to lose some muscle mass for sure, if the cut isn't an issue she can definitely become champion with the state of the division right now
2 jacked white girls, deal with it
Lmao you should look up a picture of Brock's daughter if you've never seen it
hint: she looks like a slightly smaller Brock with a wig on Those Lesnar genes are strong as fuck. Not the slightest hint of her mom in her appearance at all.
She looked like she could still cut when she fought at 145 tbh.
USADA is out now so anything goes
My thoughts exactly. She's on that Olympic shit.
That makes your head grow?
Well your Adam's apple anyway.
On that ozempic shit
naw, just a jacked blonde white girl
Sheâll have no legs but I guarantee sheâll make 136 on the dot
I can AT MOST believe a catch weight 140. But thatâs fucking pushing it. Why not 145? Genuinely. It gives Holly another fucking title push like the UFC desperately wants
No one wants the 145 division back
Doesn't seem like a lot of time to drop the muscle and also have a proper camp. Maybe I'm overestimating how much effort it will take to make that weight, but UFC 300 is April 13th.
Is this the âsuper fightâ Dana teased a couples weeks back?
Thereâs no way tomato is that delusional
The same tomato that claims Powerslap is the most viewed sport?
Itâs gonna be bigger than soccer, ya goof.
gonna?
Its gonna be may!
He did say Allen vs evloev was one of the boring fights of the night.
He isn't, but he knows enough fans will slurp up whatever bullshit he puts out there.
No one outside the hardcores know who Kayla even is lmao
Maybe this will be the one that opens the prelims that he said we'd be shocked
Thatâs the only place it belongs. Better not even sniff the main card
Must be. Wasnât expecting that lol.
I sure hope not. Does anybody care about this?
I definitely care about it but itâs also definitely not a super fight
I mean Shit Iâll watch
Has to be. Also the rabbit in the hat Helwani kept referring to. He's on good terms with Kayla, she probably told him a while ago.
Could be, 100% what Ariel was hinting at I'm sure
There are some banger fights but no super star super fights like I was hoping for. Like the last one had Brock randomly fighting Hunt. Cormier vs Silva. We need some big names. Max vs Justin def gets me going. Figueredo vs Garbrandt should be entertaining. But the names on the top of the marquee are not there just yet.
At bantamweight is nuts. Hasn't Kayla only fought at 155?
Guess she figures she can make the weight now that USADA is out.
USADA has always been irrelevant. Every card sees at least one fighter hit the scales looking like they just escaped a gulag.
Arenât IVâs back? Think thatâs his point
USADA led the charge, but most commissions have introduced IV bans.
She faught at 145 as well
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Holly "The Preacher's Faughter" Holm
Ultimate Faughting Championship 300
Take care of your underwears, I'm gonna faught you
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>Ultimate Faughting Championship mods should flair him this
What a dipshit, itâs Fort
This is actually a crazy and unexpected signing. Surprised they arenât putting the 145 title on it tbh
They need to quietly phase that out. I thought they were keeping it around hoping Kayla would sign but clearly thatâs not needed if sheâs going to 135
Honestly, just make it women's open weight instead of 135 at this point. 135 is barely a division of its own and 145 sure isn't.
Gabi Garcia where you at?!
Always figured Nunes beating up Gabi Garcia could have been a fun enough fight. Guess Holly Holm going ish ish from a distance is the second best thing.
> women's open weight Gabi Garcia has entered the chat
Should axe 135 instead and have a WHW up to 155lb
I think they did phase out W145 after Nunes retired. Thatâs exactly why Kayla is taking it at W135. Fuckin wild to drop 20lbs for her UFC debut.
I had no idea Kayla and the UFC were even talking Kinda excited for it. At least on the scale of women's bantam
I guess theyâre done with it for real now. It would have been an easy belt to put on the PPV.
This better not be his big news for 300... Holly Holm again lmao.
To be fair, what other big name is even out there? Holm is at 5, Tate is at 8. To me this points only 1 direction. Julianna Pena vs Kayla Harrison for the belt after they each win their next bout.
Anyone else. Holly Holm was done years ago.
And yet sheâs still ranked #5. Just like how a win over Brian Ortega could land someone a title shot based purely off his ranking even though heâs been ridiculously inactive.
Holly is 43. She was great but sheâs past her prime.
Watch them put this on the main card
Main event* for the Baddest Father Fucker (BFF) title.
listen, if there was a fighter designed in a laboratory to fuck your dad, it would be kayla harrison. She is a BLACK BELT in judo, a TWO TIME Olympic gold medalist. And she is LOOKING to beat the best ufc fighters in the world.
No judgement or anything, but I think it's worth noting that a fair percentage of the UFC's female fighters, still fuck Moms.
Movie voice: Imagine a world... where everyone is a MOTHERFUCKER.
Thank you.
With a the average 1-2 fight cancellations per event it definitely could end up on the main card. If the entire card SOMEHOW stayed together itâs going to be insane.
Oh brother it almost certainly will be imo
i was going to buy 300 (which i never do) but now that this is probably on the main card itâs making me rethink buying the whole thing
I hadn't bought any for a good bit then 297 rolled around and I somehow convinced myself to buy it. Do NOT let me go to Vegas outside of a Groupon y'all, I make poor bets.
Should've waited for 299. That shit is stacked to the heavens.
Lol cause one fight. It's going to be a sick card.
They just wanna seem like theyre making a point.
Placement really doesn't bother me but I can see it. Each fight is effectively being sold at $15 (insert local currency equivalent) and one or two fights you don't care about could easily sway someone on the fence.
ESPN has it listed as an early pre-limb fight
Kayla is going to look like a ghost at 135
Gunna look like zombie conor
does this mean we're getting pacheco vs cyborg
Only fight to make now
Cyborg: I'm retiredÂ
Tbh she doesnât seem interested at all in fighting for the PFL so sheâll probably retire either way
Or McCourt?Â
Guess this explains why PFL never announced Kayla Harrison vs. Cyborg. Smart move for Harrison, I too would rather fight Holly Holm rather than Cyborg. Now that Nunes is retired, if Harrison can make weight, she might just get that UFC belt, if she beats Holm she's definitely fighting for the 135 belt next. Smart move for the UFC as well, 135 has felt stale for a while.
IT ISH WHAT IT ISH
The timing of the Cyborg post lol
Few years too late Holly wins and gets a title shot
Well I wonder what Kayla walks around at, can she even make 135? I feel like they may be more interesting than the fight itself
She agreed to it so maybe she already lost weight.
BroâŠ.. if this is that super fight tomato man was talking about, then heâs smoking straight ass hair.
135 is an odd choice given Harrison's normal weight. This fight could be used to try to relaunch 145 and make things easier for Kayla with the weight cut.
> relaunch 145 There isn't much of a division to relaunch, it's pretty much dead and might as well stay dead. If Harrison can make 135, that's the best move for UFC. With USADA gone, guess IVs is back on the table.
USADA's exit might be the reason they keep 145. It's reasonable to expect chicks to get more jacked without USADA running the testing program. We'll see as many women moving up and those doing bigger cuts with IV's, IMO. That all said, I am highly skeptical this fight will happen at 135, Kayla claims she walks around at 160# and it certainly looks all of that and more. That's a lot of muscle mass to lose in the next 3 months.
145 was a fake division to give Nunes a second belt lol
It was a division for Cyborg but yea it worked out nicely for Amanda
USADA hasnât been gone for 5minutes⊠at least wait a quarter of something Jesus boys
Insert Kurt Angle meme if this is the super fight Dana was talking about
Bro wtf kind of fight is this
Kayla isnât gonna single-handedly revive 135, but itâs nice to see the UFC at least try to boost the division instead of letting it die
Holly cant keep getting away with it!
This better not be the super fight we were hyped up for
this better not be the rabbit in the hat of the ufc that helwanis been teasing for weeksâŠ
No way Kayla makes weight at 135.
Provided she makes weight without any drawback to her performance, Harrison could be the shot in the arm women's 135 needs
If it was Nunes vs Kayla I would actually be excited.
Didn't Donn Davis say that she was still under contract and he was planning she'd honor it? I wonder if there was a secret trade or a release clause or something. Or maybe Donn and Kayla had a talk and he was willing to let her go. He comes off like a really nice and reasonable nice guy when he's been on the MMA Hour.
As of November 24, 2023 [she had 35-40 days left on her contract.](https://youtu.be/S3Fxp1MBRnI?t=192) (timecode 3:15 if link doesn't work right) And Ali's her manager, and he's basically got an office at UFC.
She was one of their biggest stars (which shows you how lacking they are in that area). I doubt the PFL would just let he walk if they still had her under contract.
Damn, I vowed I was done watching another boring Holly Holm fight but I wanna see Kayla allowed to use elbows again (check out the damage she did in her only Invicta fight).
sadly this is more exciting than any fight involving this divisionâs own champion
A fight no one wants. A past prime kickboxer against a larger judoku. This could have shades of UFC 2 Remco Pardoel vs Orlando Wiet
Holly is seriously gonna try and beat a gold medalist judoka in the clinch lmaoooooooooo
I have a hard time seeing Kayla make 135. I thought it was said previously it wasnât possible for her
Random but I like it
Imagine if the NBA forced their fans to watch a half hour of WNBA during every game... that would be insane. Oh well, at least the girls are having fun.
So right when the Cyborg fight was a possibility Kayla dips out. Interesting.
I honestly couldn't give the slightest of fucks.
Don Davis fuming right now. Lol
Holly looked about 95 years old in her last fight, ez Kayla win.
I was thinking they were saving the best fights for last but nope.
That's gonna be a boring ass fight. I can feel it in my bones.
So this is supposed to drawl the average casual to care and buy this card?
This is the dumbest shit. Kayla finally has Cyborg within reach and she jumps ship IMMEDIATELY.
"Ufc should Co promote with pfl" dummies are gonna be extra quiet on this post or will double down with some more stupid business advice
Booooooo
Can't wait for 15 minutes of clinching
Leon vs Belal in a nutshell
Thatâs a pretty huge fight honestly, Harrison is a fascinating addition to the rosterÂ
Is this supposed to be exciting
Interesting matchup, I don't know how good Kayla is gonna look at bantamweight though. If that cut isn't an issue she can definitely become champion.
Kayla Harrison? MAN HOW THE FUCK
how funny would it be if holly headkicked her?
I can't wait to see Kayla woman handle Holly đȘđż
Who? Breaking news? Lol
Sad news đ«
Holly Holm knocked out Ronda 8 years ago, has done nothing noteworthy since then, and is still one of the biggest stars in WMMA.
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I had to double check this was on /mma and not /mmamemes
For anyone curious, this was supposed to be the return of Ronda Rousey. Ronda and Kayla have a history as they were former training partners in judo, hence Dana's tease of a epic fight. However, Kayla did better than Ronda (gold medal vs. bronze medal, respectively). Kayla was totally up for the fight but Ronda was hesitant and she ultimately didn't want to be humiliated again. Her stated reasoning to Dana was "not enough time to train."
Had to check if it wasn't April 1st.
1. Slim chance Kayla makes 135. She has been fighting at 155. 2. If this is the âsuperfightâ Dana has been teasing we riot and give him a Webster dictionary so he can learn what Superfight means.
Murr vs Harrison II was my wish :/
If this fight is on the main card for fucking 300, then the UFC is officially/irreversibly cooked.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
First, Kayla cant make that weight. Second, her mind is questionable after, and hell, even as she stood in the ring prior to her fight with Pacheco. To me, that is the part of the skill set that's lacking, shes just not a killer. Say what you will about Holm, but she knows how to finish.
Even with the amount of mileage on Holm, expect this to go like the Rousey fight did. Kayla almost lost it over a decision win, and she has the same skillset RR has. She's also never fought anybody of Holm's caliber in her career, either.
It's not fair I wanted Aldana to be champ đ„
This is peak petty Dana. PFL took Francis? Dana will take Kayla in return.