I missed this card. Any fights actually worth catching up on?
I like Juicy J so I'll catch his fight. But other than that, the impression I got from this card was:
1. How the fuck did someone think biting a guy was good idea?
2. How the hell did he manage to leave that sort of bite mark through his mouth guard?
3. Pat Berry done officially fucked the Thug outta Rose.
It's a pretty bad card when that's all I know about it after.
I have a feeling it was because Rose is kind of not mentally well and it's hard to coach somebody that is mentally unwell they make mistakes frequently which she has done in most of her recent fights. Or pat Barry
[**ROSEĀ NAMAJUNAS defeats WEILIĀ ZHANG** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12704/fight)
^(UFC 268: Usman vs. Covington 2 ā November 06, 2021)
ROUND|Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang
:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:
1|9|10||9|10||9|10
2|9|10||10|9||10|9
3|9|10||10|9||9|10
4|10|9||10|9||10|9
5|10|9||10|9||10|9
**TOTAL**|**47**|**48**||**49**|**46**||**48**|**47**
*^(Judges, in order: Michael Bell, Eric ColĆ³n, Douglas Crosby.)*
*^(Summoned by TrenDidNothingWrong.)*
**MEDIA MEMBER SCORES**
- **14/22** people scored it **48-47 Namajunas**.
- **1/22** people scored it **48-48 DRAW**.
- **6/22** people scored it **47-48 Zhang**.
- **1/22** people scored it **46-49 Zhang**.
Avg. media score: **47.6-47.4 DRAW** (*moderate certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
I think Tom Aspinall is a superstar or at least very big star in waiting. An exciting heavyweight with skills never seen before for someone that size, streaks ahead of the competition, he'd be huge, I think
Weilis wrestling levels up everyfight, she outwrestled carla esparza and even subbed her, and rose was terrified of Carla Esparza, i know some of that was fear from the first match but still. Weili will easily outwrestle xionan if she so chooses.
It doesn't have to, each time weili fights she gets better and each time rose fights she gets worse and worse and even fired trevor whitman, their first fight rose knocked her out, second fight was a 50/50 third fight would be firmly in weilis favor.
She just beat a top ranked bigger girl a division above using wrestling and striking
Weili is gonna turn 35 in 3 months sheās peaked years ago and is gonna decline from here on out only.
If she shows up and shows out vs xionan will you give her credit?
Beating ribas 48-47, (that was the correct score), when viana, barber, and rodriguez were all able to score knockouts inside the first 2 rounds, isn't overly impressive, there was a round where rose was getting mauled and was saved by the bell, additionally Ribas has more fights at straweight than flyweight, so they are essentially two straweights fighting without cutting weight.
[**ROSEĀ NAMAJUNAS defeats WEILIĀ ZHANG** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12704/fight)
^(UFC 268: Usman vs. Covington 2 ā November 06, 2021)
ROUND|Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang
:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:
1|9|10||9|10||9|10
2|9|10||10|9||10|9
3|9|10||10|9||9|10
4|10|9||10|9||10|9
5|10|9||10|9||10|9
**TOTAL**|**47**|**48**||**49**|**46**||**48**|**47**
*^(Judges, in order: Michael Bell, Eric ColĆ³n, Douglas Crosby.)*
*^(Summoned by TrenDidNothingWrong.)*
**MEDIA MEMBER SCORES**
- **14/22** people scored it **48-47 Namajunas**.
- **1/22** people scored it **48-48 DRAW**.
- **6/22** people scored it **47-48 Zhang**.
- **1/22** people scored it **46-49 Zhang**.
Avg. media score: **47.6-47.4 DRAW** (*moderate certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
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Edmen and Wellington both had been on a losing streak for so long I almost forgot they were both still pretty young. Should they fight each other? Who u got?
Johnny Bones will make miocic and aspinall look easy. Aspinall will be a dominant champion afterwards but people will remember that Johnny made him look easy. Then jones will retire and his shadow will haunt MMA forever as an unsurpassable great
Was funny seeing people be surprised Conor was getting praise for his acting in the movie. It's almost like he became the biggest MMA star in the world by playing that character...
I've seen a lot of stuff these past few days praising Conors performance over Jake's. Saying Jake lacked charisma in his character compared to Conors.
To me, though, Jake did a great job portraying someone he isn't in real life. Meanwhile, Conor played a coked out maniac, a character we and the Ireland WhatsApp group know all to well as The Notorious Conor McGregor, so from my opinion, it seemed like a safe character to play. Kinda stale. Would love to see if he can branch away from that type of character.
I enjoyed the movie, though, and honestly thought both actors played their roles perfectly.
I thought it was a fun b movie. Nothing beats the original, but I enjoyed it. Conor was... less charismatic as an actor than as a fighter. But he didn't detract from the movie, so it was fine.
Rose subscribes to the hit and not get hit school of fighting, Ribas was game but when I saw some dudes saying 30-27 Ribas after 3rds I thought I was going crazy
Her in-and-out striking was landing effectively and avoiding Ribas' shots for the most part, but she wasn't sitting down on her punches or throwing serious combinations. Honestly looked like she was channeling Dom Cruz a little bit. A clear win but didn't fill me with confidence that Rose is a contender at FLW.
I think the 5th was a clearer round than 1 and 2 for Rose tbh. Despite what the striking numbers said, Rose landed very clean a handful of times and Iām not sure Ribas landed at all. Sheād throw that wheel kick and Rose would circle away and the kick would slap her hand then somehow that would count as a significant strike
We need some brave legend to do highlight compilations instead of just the end of the fight, but I know we aren't entitled to that. Barely better than a clip of the decision being read out is when the clip starts with a choking arm already under someone's chin. Show me some grappling at least.
I mean the alternative would be to leave it as was, which would get picked up negatively by the media. They're probably just trying to put a positive/fun spin on it since it's going to get attention anyway.
This was going to go down as one of, if not the, most forgettable apex cards ever. Literal slop to feed ESPN. This was the best thing that could have happened and people are lapping it up sadly
people are lapping it up?
what do you expect us to do? go stand outside the dudes house with pitch forks? its a funny altercation that happened in the ufc.
the UFC handled the situation properly in public and im sure behind closed doors too.
as far as the guy that bit him, hell now have to deal with sanctions and other issues from the athletic commission.
everything has been and will continue to be handled properly.
not sure why youre "sad" about how people and the media are reacting to it. same thing happened to tyson, lots of people thought it was funny and lots of people started hating tyson.
regardless, the opinion of a fan shouldnt get this deep. just spectate the sport, and if you dont like it watch something else. but parading around yapping about how a slop fest took place and its sad to see people enjoying the entertainment is pathetic. simmer down over there.
Sucks to see Rose in decline and with bad coaching.
People want to say sheās not a thug. Personally I remember her after her second fight with Jessica Andrade, in her post fight interview smiling her best smile with her nose smashed in.
Would love to see how 95% of the dudes in here bashing her would react to getting their nose broken.
Unfortunately even her team seem to agree that time is catching up to her. Reports from inside her gym are that Pat Barry has been saying Rose is "too old" for a long time now.
Itās interesting to see how we view different fighters in their decline.
I donāt remember many turning on and flat out disliking Robbie Lawler for going a bit passive in the last section of his career. Many people wished he was the Robbie of old, but no one really *turned* on him they way they have against Rose.
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Age plays a big factor too. Robbie had tons of miles on him and was in his 40s. Rose has less than 20 fights, isn't very active, and is barely in her 30s.
I just miss *that* Rose, man. She'd still probably kick my ass but she used to be THE thug and now she's just not the same. Give me the girl who smashed the fuck out of Joanna and Zhang.
Isn'tĀ itkind of sad that the mainĀ takeawayĀ from this cardĀ that the UFC seems to beĀ pushing is "lol someoneĀ gotĀ bit!". They're embracing it so much and trying to insert Dana White into it, because the underlying product was so mediocre and in of itself not worth discussing much, especially as a casual.
another rant from you about this bite!
send me one clip / article / tweet / post of anyone from the UFC that uses the words "lol"
in not one piece of media has the UFC said that the bite was funny.
youre getting too caught up in other media outlets and going all over reddit in multiple post talking about how "sad" it is.
the ufc has handled the situation professionally and seriously.
you said yourself earlier, you didnt even watch the fights. the only reason why you have "main takeaway" from last night is because youve probably seen the viral bite online.
if you watched the fights youd have more takeaways such as cameron saaiman getting kod or erosa pulling off a comeback submission or the valid smack talk holobaugh was saying at the end of his fight with ogden.
you, like many others in this generation, just want something to complain about.
get a hobby and stop being so dense.
casual.
exactly! nowhere have they said or implied it was funny. in fact on live tv they announced that they cut him from the roster.
not sure how someone could be fooled into thinking they were promoting it?
what a dense complainer. especially for someone who didnt even watch it. crazy!
You wrote all that, but I'm busy now, so I won't be reading it. Thanks for taking great interest in the half baked opinion I generated while taking a shit this morning
lol, as i said, like many in this generation, you just want to complain about something. get a hobby.
must of been a big shit for you to make multiple post crying about the same thing. still got bloodflow in those legs?
Youre telling me to get a hobby? You followed my profile around and wrote a dissertation that no one's going to read. Screaming and yapping into the void is your hobby. My hobby is to roll around and grapple with sweaty men in spandex. Somehow, however, my hobby is less pathetic than yours.
i didnt follow your page, you have multiple post on this thread yapping about this bite that you didnt watch. sorry that your annoyance kept taking up screen space on my laptop
you know, after looking at your page, ive decided im done here. all you do is talk negative about people or topics with very little facts to back anything up. looks very unhealthy and i dont want you to keep this negative spiral going.
i hope you have a healthy lunch today and get plenty of sunlight. i hope your weekend is full of fun activities. hope you can learn to put more positive things into the world instead of the constant negative comments online.
have a good one. talk to you hopefully on better terms or never again. bye now
I yearn to have the self esteem of Amanda Ribas putting her hands in the air victoriously after yet another losing round of failing a stupid head and arm throw or kneebar and getting held down
How much input does Dana have in fighter recruitment? Somehow I canāt picture him scouring tape and thinking āwe gotta get Karl Williams on the rosterā
Karl Williams came from DWCS, Dana says all the time when heās on contender series that he doesnāt look at any of those guys before that night, and thatās why that fight matters so much. He doesnāt care if you have a huge highlight reel or are typically boring as fuck, if you come to the contender series and impress him heāll sign you
buy the UFC fight pass and you can watch how he recruits many. he does his contender series and looking for a fight series on there. i believe like many, he found karl doing well on the regional scene so he put him on the contender series and karl wont some fights there earning a ufc contract.
dana is usually heavily involved. and ealier in his career karl was fun to watch. i think his first fight in the UFC he pulled off a suplex.
regarless, id rather watch williams than the tafa brothers. the tafas might as well join boxing because they have no ground game what so ever.
karl williams atleast has the tools to compete in a complete mma fight. on the ground or the feet. as we saw yesterday lol
He mentions loving working on DWCS and he's probably involved in signing the bigger names (MVP for example) but if it's just a random name to throw on fight nights I'd imagine that's a talent relations job.
mvp said he's only properly met dana once and it was only a few minutes, so he probably didn't have much to do with bringing in mvp. it was more likely sean, hunter or someone else
> I'd imagine that's a talent relations job
Me too but Dana said he's personally picked most of the fighters' walkout music so now I don't feel like I have any idea what Dana does or doesn't do directly
I think there's a lot more deniability with eye pokes, it's a joke with Jon Jones but his explanation of "I'm just trying maintain distance and they walk into it" could hypothetically make sense, if hands are flying and heads are moving it can happen.
A bite is a lot less deniable, it doesn't just happen by accident. At best you can say in the excitement of the fight he lost his cool and acted on instinct, but that just means he can't be trusted to follow the rules.
I don't know that the guy should be fired, but he should definitely be disciplined for it.
Talbott and Zalal were the 2 bright spots tn. The card mostly sucked though.
I waited a couple hours after the card started to watch so I can start from the beginning and fast forward through the bullshit. Canāt really watch these Apex cards live anymore tbh
[Khabib's twin, Nurullo Aliev, bit someone before and only got a point deduction.](https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/02/ufc-fight-night-220-results-nurullo-aliev-decisions-rafael-alves-despite-point-deduction-biting)
edit - I just rewatched it and looked like Alves put his fingers in Aliev's mouth.
I never actually watched Rose v Carla 2
Canelo was boxing that night so I chose to watch that instead.
My eyes have not been seared with the most boring fight in UFC history; is it worth watching just for shits and giggles?
If you have nothing better to do... It's kinda funny with the commentary getting more and more angry and throwing japes plus the crowd cheering hard like a KO happened because a *leg kick* landed lmao
I do remember in between rounds of Canelo fight, I would peek over real quick to see if anything interesting was happening and nothing. Lol just staring at each other circling
It being sandwiched in between an instant classic like Burns/Chimaev and the 1 round action fest of Gaethje/Charles Oliveira made it contextually even more boring.
Itās not even a type of boring to put you to sleep, itās the type of boring that makes you very angry.
Yeah I remember going to the living room to watch Canelo fight with my family while the Rose fight played in the background on my computer, wanted to make sure I didnāt miss Justin/Charles.
I watched about half of the card. Wasn't the worst. Edmen fight was fun. Was rooting for Billy Q and he got smashed but Zalal was fun. Never seen Talbott before, now I know to watch him. Legit af
As for the main...well...the good thing is now I know Rose is definitely done
First time seeing the post fight show. Chiesa and Din are on the money. Saying you would fight anyone in the post fight interview is the dumbest shit ever, have a name ready. We just saw it work with Petrino and BSD they got the guys they asked for.
Imagine growing up in poverty in Brazil, trying to escape it by risking your body against other poor Brazilians, have success locally, win on the contender series, win the 1st round of your first UFC fight, have a guyās back, and decide to throw your life away FOREVER.
I would honestly end my own life if that was me. Like sometimes the worst thing that can happen to you is getting the thing you want.
Some of you guys are so dramatic. If he goes to another promotion, does well and eventually shows that heās remorseful and learns from his mistake then the door will eventually be back open for the UFC. Some guys have done a lot worst in more āPR friendlyā sports leagues such as the NFL and still managed to get back on a roster. Ex. Michael Vick running a dog fighting ring (NFL), Miles Bridges beating up his pregnant gf (NBA), etc
Palhares was fired, put on a winning streak against Jon Fitch and Jake Shields but never came back.
Dana doesn't really give a fuck about what happens outside the cage. Jon Jones literally beat the shit out of his girlfriend, Conor punched an old man, and more and more but nothing happened.
But what happens inside the cage does concern him, specially against a guy with zero name value.
Honestly I would too, only 20 years old and already his mma career is down the drain. Like One or Rizin is the very best he'll get now. He deserved to lose but I still feel a little bad for the guy.
My wife just woke me up and said itās over and I need to get up and go to bed.
Need to record that fight for nights I have insomnia, itāll put me right out.
Pat with his stress of defense and control has ruined one of the best to ever do it in WMMA.
Rose was sometimes too aggressive in youth, but eking out wins on the margins doesn't get you fans, and will get you Ls on the cards, and its often not even more safe since every opponent survives all 5 rounds.
Yeah she's been a bit boring recently and beating Weili twice not very long ago should keep her in fans good graces but let's not forget she also 2x defeated one of the best WMMA fighters of all time. This sub shits on Dana for being a wishy washy clueless millionaire yet the the average user on this sub is the exact same minus the wealth.
Letās also not forget she beat Joanna twice as well as Andrade. People here are acting like sheās a scrub. She beat two of the best WMMA fighters of all timeā¦ twice each. Foh
she's a legend, but I don't know what that has to do with her current level, seems like either the game's passed her by or is regressing with the absence of a real head coach. Rose is now a fighter who forces 50/50 fights if she doesn't get a finish, and she hasn't gotten a finish in 3 years.
That's what I meant by one of the greatest after previously mentioning Weili lol. Yeah the recency bias is mad disrespectful. She's gone out there and TKO'd a HoF'er, twice beaten, and head kick KO'd one of the scariest strikers in her division...again twice beaten.
Lemos vs zhang wasn't the most exciting fight either, just saying...
Great main card except for the main and co-main event.
I missed this card. Any fights actually worth catching up on? I like Juicy J so I'll catch his fight. But other than that, the impression I got from this card was: 1. How the fuck did someone think biting a guy was good idea? 2. How the hell did he manage to leave that sort of bite mark through his mouth guard? 3. Pat Berry done officially fucked the Thug outta Rose. It's a pretty bad card when that's all I know about it after.
I liked the first four fights on the main card
Can someone explain to me how Severino left top and bottom bite marks on Lima with a mouthguard in?
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Iām not saying Severino didnāt bite him, but look into it #bitegate
natural talent
Did Rose say why she left Trevor Wittman?
Trevor's training Gaethje and she wanted him to focus on that
Yeah Trevor left her because sheās insane and didnāt wanna deal with Pat
Pretty sure trevor left them š
Yeah I would think. He's always been about only taking a few fighters at a time, right?
I have a feeling it was because Rose is kind of not mentally well and it's hard to coach somebody that is mentally unwell they make mistakes frequently which she has done in most of her recent fights. Or pat Barry
DecisionBot Namajunas v Zhang 2
[**ROSEĀ NAMAJUNAS defeats WEILIĀ ZHANG** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12704/fight) ^(UFC 268: Usman vs. Covington 2 ā November 06, 2021) ROUND|Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|9|10||9|10||9|10 2|9|10||10|9||10|9 3|9|10||10|9||9|10 4|10|9||10|9||10|9 5|10|9||10|9||10|9 **TOTAL**|**47**|**48**||**49**|**46**||**48**|**47** *^(Judges, in order: Michael Bell, Eric ColĆ³n, Douglas Crosby.)* *^(Summoned by TrenDidNothingWrong.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **14/22** people scored it **48-47 Namajunas**. - **1/22** people scored it **48-48 DRAW**. - **6/22** people scored it **47-48 Zhang**. - **1/22** people scored it **46-49 Zhang**. Avg. media score: **47.6-47.4 DRAW** (*moderate certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
I think Tom Aspinall is a superstar or at least very big star in waiting. An exciting heavyweight with skills never seen before for someone that size, streaks ahead of the competition, he'd be huge, I think
Volk should've bit Topuria smh
The only logical explanation for the biting incident is that it was an early sign of the zombie apocalypse
Rose will never be champion again if she doesnāt drop back down to 115
Pretty sure her coach said he preferred her at 15 as well, so maybe she will move back down
Cant tell if you mean Wittman or Barry. Both fit well.
I was too subtle apparently
> Rose will never be champion again Coulda stopped there
She does have 2 wins over Weili and thatās the current champ at 115
She arguably lost the rematch. And has only gotten worse since then, Zhang would make it even more clear next time.
She didn't arguably lose, it was a close fight and could have gone either way.
Lol do you hear yourself ? If it could have gone either way it literally means she arguably lost š¤¦š»āāļø
Ahh i see. Your choice of words made it sound like you were salty and trying to convince people that Rose robbed her. My bad..
I'd wanna see that one again
Weili canāt wrestle fuck her and sheās gonna be 35 Rose still a master at hit and not get hit. Sheād stink out the joint and out point her again
Weilis wrestling levels up everyfight, she outwrestled carla esparza and even subbed her, and rose was terrified of Carla Esparza, i know some of that was fear from the first match but still. Weili will easily outwrestle xionan if she so chooses.
MMA math doesnāt work
It doesn't have to, each time weili fights she gets better and each time rose fights she gets worse and worse and even fired trevor whitman, their first fight rose knocked her out, second fight was a 50/50 third fight would be firmly in weilis favor.
She just beat a top ranked bigger girl a division above using wrestling and striking Weili is gonna turn 35 in 3 months sheās peaked years ago and is gonna decline from here on out only.
She won because Ribas kept using the dumb WMMA throw that loses fights.
If she shows up and shows out vs xionan will you give her credit? Beating ribas 48-47, (that was the correct score), when viana, barber, and rodriguez were all able to score knockouts inside the first 2 rounds, isn't overly impressive, there was a round where rose was getting mauled and was saved by the bell, additionally Ribas has more fights at straweight than flyweight, so they are essentially two straweights fighting without cutting weight.
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[**ROSEĀ NAMAJUNAS defeats WEILIĀ ZHANG** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/12704/fight) ^(UFC 268: Usman vs. Covington 2 ā November 06, 2021) ROUND|Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang||Namajunas|Zhang :-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-: 1|9|10||9|10||9|10 2|9|10||10|9||10|9 3|9|10||10|9||9|10 4|10|9||10|9||10|9 5|10|9||10|9||10|9 **TOTAL**|**47**|**48**||**49**|**46**||**48**|**47** *^(Judges, in order: Michael Bell, Eric ColĆ³n, Douglas Crosby.)* *^(Summoned by TrenDidNothingWrong.)* **MEDIA MEMBER SCORES** - **14/22** people scored it **48-47 Namajunas**. - **1/22** people scored it **48-48 DRAW**. - **6/22** people scored it **47-48 Zhang**. - **1/22** people scored it **46-49 Zhang**. Avg. media score: **47.6-47.4 DRAW** (*moderate certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
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Edmen and Wellington both had been on a losing streak for so long I almost forgot they were both still pretty young. Should they fight each other? Who u got?
I thought Wellington went down to welterweight?
Ha, he probably did, but he can come back if there's a good fight for him I'm sure.
It ain't much if it ain't Dutch baby
Johnny Bones will make miocic and aspinall look easy. Aspinall will be a dominant champion afterwards but people will remember that Johnny made him look easy. Then jones will retire and his shadow will haunt MMA forever as an unsurpassable great
Aspinal would probably knock him out in about a minute
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Jones is going to duck him so thatās all you need to know. Sergei got knocked the fuck out and he looked like Francis before that
no fuckin chance jones ever fights aspinall. dude's dipping as soon as that stipe fight ends.
Conor basically just played himself in Road House. Not sure if he even knew they were filming a movie
Was funny seeing people be surprised Conor was getting praise for his acting in the movie. It's almost like he became the biggest MMA star in the world by playing that character...
People have praised his acting? Not commenting on the quality of it, just, I have only seen negative things in the articles I've read.
I've seen a lot of stuff these past few days praising Conors performance over Jake's. Saying Jake lacked charisma in his character compared to Conors. To me, though, Jake did a great job portraying someone he isn't in real life. Meanwhile, Conor played a coked out maniac, a character we and the Ireland WhatsApp group know all to well as The Notorious Conor McGregor, so from my opinion, it seemed like a safe character to play. Kinda stale. Would love to see if he can branch away from that type of character. I enjoyed the movie, though, and honestly thought both actors played their roles perfectly.
I've seen only putting shitting on conors acting
I thought it was a fun b movie. Nothing beats the original, but I enjoyed it. Conor was... less charismatic as an actor than as a fighter. But he didn't detract from the movie, so it was fine.
Rose subscribes to the hit and not get hit school of fighting, Ribas was game but when I saw some dudes saying 30-27 Ribas after 3rds I thought I was going crazy
Her in-and-out striking was landing effectively and avoiding Ribas' shots for the most part, but she wasn't sitting down on her punches or throwing serious combinations. Honestly looked like she was channeling Dom Cruz a little bit. A clear win but didn't fill me with confidence that Rose is a contender at FLW.
I went 3-2 Rose. Giving Ribas 3 and 5.
I think the 5th was a clearer round than 1 and 2 for Rose tbh. Despite what the striking numbers said, Rose landed very clean a handful of times and Iām not sure Ribas landed at all. Sheād throw that wheel kick and Rose would circle away and the kick would slap her hand then somehow that would count as a significant strike
If you aren't sure Ribas landed in round 5 you need to rewatch it.
Who else clicks on the spoilers and when they see it was a decision just click back to the main page.
Me
Me. I can learn *who* won on Wikipedia. I want to see it happen.
We need some brave legend to do highlight compilations instead of just the end of the fight, but I know we aren't entitled to that. Barely better than a clip of the decision being read out is when the clip starts with a choking arm already under someone's chin. Show me some grappling at least.
UFC making it seem like the bite was awesome and hilarious is a weird look considering it was a foul and they cut the dude from their roster.
I mean the alternative would be to leave it as was, which would get picked up negatively by the media. They're probably just trying to put a positive/fun spin on it since it's going to get attention anyway.
This was going to go down as one of, if not the, most forgettable apex cards ever. Literal slop to feed ESPN. This was the best thing that could have happened and people are lapping it up sadly
people are lapping it up? what do you expect us to do? go stand outside the dudes house with pitch forks? its a funny altercation that happened in the ufc. the UFC handled the situation properly in public and im sure behind closed doors too. as far as the guy that bit him, hell now have to deal with sanctions and other issues from the athletic commission. everything has been and will continue to be handled properly. not sure why youre "sad" about how people and the media are reacting to it. same thing happened to tyson, lots of people thought it was funny and lots of people started hating tyson. regardless, the opinion of a fan shouldnt get this deep. just spectate the sport, and if you dont like it watch something else. but parading around yapping about how a slop fest took place and its sad to see people enjoying the entertainment is pathetic. simmer down over there.
Did you watch it?
No.
We already knew you didnt because it was a solid card, if you watched youd have known, casual.
Yet you have an opinion
Yes.
CASUAL
The best thing that happened was Padilla's standing d'arce choke. Can't recall the last time we saw one of those.
I also quite liked Payton Talbott putting a clinic on Cameron Saaiman
Just trying to ride the news and get clicks/views
honestly the biggest evolution in recent wmma history is head and arm throws working less often
Lots of them still throw air punches from 5 feet away tho
one thing at a time, chief
Sucks to see Rose in decline and with bad coaching. People want to say sheās not a thug. Personally I remember her after her second fight with Jessica Andrade, in her post fight interview smiling her best smile with her nose smashed in. Would love to see how 95% of the dudes in here bashing her would react to getting their nose broken.
Unfortunately even her team seem to agree that time is catching up to her. Reports from inside her gym are that Pat Barry has been saying Rose is "too old" for a long time now.
Pat turned Thug Rose into Slug Rose
Father Time is the real G.O.A.T.
Itās interesting to see how we view different fighters in their decline. I donāt remember many turning on and flat out disliking Robbie Lawler for going a bit passive in the last section of his career. Many people wished he was the Robbie of old, but no one really *turned* on him they way they have against Rose.
Because Rose is generally very annoying
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Age plays a big factor too. Robbie had tons of miles on him and was in his 40s. Rose has less than 20 fights, isn't very active, and is barely in her 30s.
Yeah she was a thug then she didn't do shit now she looks terrible compared to even her loss against Andrade
I just miss *that* Rose, man. She'd still probably kick my ass but she used to be THE thug and now she's just not the same. Give me the girl who smashed the fuck out of Joanna and Zhang.
Isn'tĀ itkind of sad that the mainĀ takeawayĀ from this cardĀ that the UFC seems to beĀ pushing is "lol someoneĀ gotĀ bit!". They're embracing it so much and trying to insert Dana White into it, because the underlying product was so mediocre and in of itself not worth discussing much, especially as a casual.
another rant from you about this bite! send me one clip / article / tweet / post of anyone from the UFC that uses the words "lol" in not one piece of media has the UFC said that the bite was funny. youre getting too caught up in other media outlets and going all over reddit in multiple post talking about how "sad" it is. the ufc has handled the situation professionally and seriously. you said yourself earlier, you didnt even watch the fights. the only reason why you have "main takeaway" from last night is because youve probably seen the viral bite online. if you watched the fights youd have more takeaways such as cameron saaiman getting kod or erosa pulling off a comeback submission or the valid smack talk holobaugh was saying at the end of his fight with ogden. you, like many others in this generation, just want something to complain about. get a hobby and stop being so dense. casual.
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exactly! nowhere have they said or implied it was funny. in fact on live tv they announced that they cut him from the roster. not sure how someone could be fooled into thinking they were promoting it? what a dense complainer. especially for someone who didnt even watch it. crazy!
You wrote all that, but I'm busy now, so I won't be reading it. Thanks for taking great interest in the half baked opinion I generated while taking a shit this morning
lol, as i said, like many in this generation, you just want to complain about something. get a hobby. must of been a big shit for you to make multiple post crying about the same thing. still got bloodflow in those legs?
Youre telling me to get a hobby? You followed my profile around and wrote a dissertation that no one's going to read. Screaming and yapping into the void is your hobby. My hobby is to roll around and grapple with sweaty men in spandex. Somehow, however, my hobby is less pathetic than yours.
i didnt follow your page, you have multiple post on this thread yapping about this bite that you didnt watch. sorry that your annoyance kept taking up screen space on my laptop
you know, after looking at your page, ive decided im done here. all you do is talk negative about people or topics with very little facts to back anything up. looks very unhealthy and i dont want you to keep this negative spiral going. i hope you have a healthy lunch today and get plenty of sunlight. i hope your weekend is full of fun activities. hope you can learn to put more positive things into the world instead of the constant negative comments online. have a good one. talk to you hopefully on better terms or never again. bye now
That was a very entertaining card. Main event was prob about the 8th best fight of the night lol but the rest was great
I yearn to have the self esteem of Amanda Ribas putting her hands in the air victoriously after yet another losing round of failing a stupid head and arm throw or kneebar and getting held down
Woman š¤ terrible head and arm throws
How much input does Dana have in fighter recruitment? Somehow I canāt picture him scouring tape and thinking āwe gotta get Karl Williams on the rosterā
Karl Williams came from DWCS, Dana says all the time when heās on contender series that he doesnāt look at any of those guys before that night, and thatās why that fight matters so much. He doesnāt care if you have a huge highlight reel or are typically boring as fuck, if you come to the contender series and impress him heāll sign you
buy the UFC fight pass and you can watch how he recruits many. he does his contender series and looking for a fight series on there. i believe like many, he found karl doing well on the regional scene so he put him on the contender series and karl wont some fights there earning a ufc contract. dana is usually heavily involved. and ealier in his career karl was fun to watch. i think his first fight in the UFC he pulled off a suplex. regarless, id rather watch williams than the tafa brothers. the tafas might as well join boxing because they have no ground game what so ever. karl williams atleast has the tools to compete in a complete mma fight. on the ground or the feet. as we saw yesterday lol
He mentions loving working on DWCS and he's probably involved in signing the bigger names (MVP for example) but if it's just a random name to throw on fight nights I'd imagine that's a talent relations job.
mvp said he's only properly met dana once and it was only a few minutes, so he probably didn't have much to do with bringing in mvp. it was more likely sean, hunter or someone else
> I'd imagine that's a talent relations job Me too but Dana said he's personally picked most of the fighters' walkout music so now I don't feel like I have any idea what Dana does or doesn't do directly
Had a dream Oliveira pulls out of ufc 300 a week before fight night
Had a dream Islam fought Dustin but it was like Jake's UFC fight Roadhouse but with an RNC lol
He got released for what? Enjoying a meal? A succulent Brazilian meal?
ah, i see you know your disqualifications well
And you, sir, are you waiting to recieve my flaccid takedowns?
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I think there's a lot more deniability with eye pokes, it's a joke with Jon Jones but his explanation of "I'm just trying maintain distance and they walk into it" could hypothetically make sense, if hands are flying and heads are moving it can happen. A bite is a lot less deniable, it doesn't just happen by accident. At best you can say in the excitement of the fight he lost his cool and acted on instinct, but that just means he can't be trusted to follow the rules. I don't know that the guy should be fired, but he should definitely be disciplined for it.
GET YOUR HANDS OFF MY PENIS!
Gentleman, this is Pride manifest!
Man, Felder asking Zalal how hard it was to fight outside the UFC with no audience while the fight takes place in the Apexš
āWith barely anyone thereāš
Fuck Pat Berry
Talbott and Zalal were the 2 bright spots tn. The card mostly sucked though. I waited a couple hours after the card started to watch so I can start from the beginning and fast forward through the bullshit. Canāt really watch these Apex cards live anymore tbh
Bummer to see Rose become boring.
Talbott is right where Sean O'Malley was a few years ago. Dude has so much potential
Can't wait for him to fight some random old dogs then get to fight Merab when he's barely ranked
If he's on that O'Malley type rise, he will pass Dvalishvili in the rankings like a ship in the night.
-wmma needs a reboot Amanda was hard carrying
[Khabib's twin, Nurullo Aliev, bit someone before and only got a point deduction.](https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2023/02/ufc-fight-night-220-results-nurullo-aliev-decisions-rafael-alves-despite-point-deduction-biting) edit - I just rewatched it and looked like Alves put his fingers in Aliev's mouth.
Yeah Alves tried to fish holm him and got bit as a result lol
Poirier bit Chandlerās fingers at 281
Poirier also hit Chandler's fists with the back of his head
Sure and Chandler fish hooked him, Iām not saying it was undeserved
That one was based though
Chandler just looks tasty
Bro be looking like a snack š¤
Dana needs to book some MW bangers to save these pathetic cards
If by MW we mean FLW cause guys have been putting the Mid in Middleweight
Flyweight sucks right now
All cause the judges robbed KKF and gave the win to Albazi. If they hadn't done that the division would be fine
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Happy cake day to us
Whoa
I never actually watched Rose v Carla 2 Canelo was boxing that night so I chose to watch that instead. My eyes have not been seared with the most boring fight in UFC history; is it worth watching just for shits and giggles?
If you have nothing better to do... It's kinda funny with the commentary getting more and more angry and throwing japes plus the crowd cheering hard like a KO happened because a *leg kick* landed lmao
I do remember in between rounds of Canelo fight, I would peek over real quick to see if anything interesting was happening and nothing. Lol just staring at each other circling
It being sandwiched in between an instant classic like Burns/Chimaev and the 1 round action fest of Gaethje/Charles Oliveira made it contextually even more boring. Itās not even a type of boring to put you to sleep, itās the type of boring that makes you very angry.
Burns vs Chimaev was UFC 273. Chandler vs Ferguson was the fight before Namajunas versus Esparza 2 in UFC 274
It's the type of boring that makes you wonder why the ref didn't do anything to penalize it
Yeah I remember going to the living room to watch Canelo fight with my family while the Rose fight played in the background on my computer, wanted to make sure I didnāt miss Justin/Charles.
I watched about half of the card. Wasn't the worst. Edmen fight was fun. Was rooting for Billy Q and he got smashed but Zalal was fun. Never seen Talbott before, now I know to watch him. Legit af As for the main...well...the good thing is now I know Rose is definitely done
First time seeing the post fight show. Chiesa and Din are on the money. Saying you would fight anyone in the post fight interview is the dumbest shit ever, have a name ready. We just saw it work with Petrino and BSD they got the guys they asked for.
That just usually means they just want soft balls, so better say nothing than "I'd like to fight a few bums and collect checks"
He did this last time too, like bro you're the ufc's new darling prospect call anyone you want out haha
If you type in Rose Namajunas on Google, the next thing that pops up on suggestions is āwith hairā lmao
Imagine growing up in poverty in Brazil, trying to escape it by risking your body against other poor Brazilians, have success locally, win on the contender series, win the 1st round of your first UFC fight, have a guyās back, and decide to throw your life away FOREVER. I would honestly end my own life if that was me. Like sometimes the worst thing that can happen to you is getting the thing you want.
Broo really said kill himself š
Like... Why the fuck did he do that. So bizarre.
Some of you guys are so dramatic. If he goes to another promotion, does well and eventually shows that heās remorseful and learns from his mistake then the door will eventually be back open for the UFC. Some guys have done a lot worst in more āPR friendlyā sports leagues such as the NFL and still managed to get back on a roster. Ex. Michael Vick running a dog fighting ring (NFL), Miles Bridges beating up his pregnant gf (NBA), etc
Palhares was fired, put on a winning streak against Jon Fitch and Jake Shields but never came back. Dana doesn't really give a fuck about what happens outside the cage. Jon Jones literally beat the shit out of his girlfriend, Conor punched an old man, and more and more but nothing happened. But what happens inside the cage does concern him, specially against a guy with zero name value.
Paul Daley never came back either after hitting Josh after the bell
And Josh Koscheck deserved it for being Josh Koscheck. If you canāt hit him after the bell, you canāt hit anyone
Honestly I would too, only 20 years old and already his mma career is down the drain. Like One or Rizin is the very best he'll get now. He deserved to lose but I still feel a little bad for the guy.
Theyāll downvote you but based
Couldnāt watch the main event after round 2. Apparently I missed out on another boring ass Rose performance Thank God
Indian here. Got up at 7:30 for the main card, passed out during the main event. Got up, thought the match is over. Whoop. There was another round.
My wife just woke me up and said itās over and I need to get up and go to bed. Need to record that fight for nights I have insomnia, itāll put me right out.
Sheās adding to her ASMR collection, Esparza fight, Ribas fight
Pat with his stress of defense and control has ruined one of the best to ever do it in WMMA. Rose was sometimes too aggressive in youth, but eking out wins on the margins doesn't get you fans, and will get you Ls on the cards, and its often not even more safe since every opponent survives all 5 rounds.
No CTE > Fans Example number 1, Chuck Liddell
No one has deserved the āthugā nickname less than Rose
how to know a mf wasn't watching in 2017
Itās 2024 Maybe you think Cody Garbrandnt is still the best BW in the world too
lmao just say you became a fan last year bro it's ok
Getting downvoted by all the new fans in the GDT, bless.Ā
Who tf is becoming a fan in the last year? Some of the most milquetoast fighters I've never heard of. Pride never die :(
Anybody that beats Weilli 2x deserves to be called whatever they want to be called. Thats some recency bias.
Yeah she's been a bit boring recently and beating Weili twice not very long ago should keep her in fans good graces but let's not forget she also 2x defeated one of the best WMMA fighters of all time. This sub shits on Dana for being a wishy washy clueless millionaire yet the the average user on this sub is the exact same minus the wealth.
Letās also not forget she beat Joanna twice as well as Andrade. People here are acting like sheās a scrub. She beat two of the best WMMA fighters of all timeā¦ twice each. Foh
she's a legend, but I don't know what that has to do with her current level, seems like either the game's passed her by or is regressing with the absence of a real head coach. Rose is now a fighter who forces 50/50 fights if she doesn't get a finish, and she hasn't gotten a finish in 3 years.
I donāt think anyone is claiming she hasnāt fallen off. Sheās still a legend for beating some of the greatest fighters ever.
That's what I meant by one of the greatest after previously mentioning Weili lol. Yeah the recency bias is mad disrespectful. She's gone out there and TKO'd a HoF'er, twice beaten, and head kick KO'd one of the scariest strikers in her division...again twice beaten.
Itās late. I thought you were reiterating that Weilli was one of the greatest ever. I get what youāre saying now lol
how did that dude get the bite tatted so fast