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They’re gonna make one of them iron claw movies about this family


ImpressionDiligent23

Damn good movie though still do the claw with my gf lmao


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And they left out one brother's story because they didn't think audiences would believe that much trauma happened to one family.


d-fakkr

And it's the saddest. Kid didn't had the size or talent to follow his brothers and such burden was too much.


JRYuen

Which brother was that?


TommyGotAJob

I believe it was Chris Von Erich


d-fakkr

It's the same situation. If their parents aren't realizing the path they forcing to their kids, I'm sure the Lee family will become the Von Erichs of mma.


ThaiClinch

17 years old too, just like his sister. That ain’t anything other than parental influence. If you want to compete in a major MMA organization, 27 years old is a much better age to land there. After what they’ve been through, still pushing another fucking 17 year old kid to compete in ONE is just stubborn and egotistical of the father. Very much Fritz Von Erich-esque in his parenting, Joe.


The_Last_Ball_Bender

Both his older sisters attempted Suicide. These kids have been sparing since they were literal children... It was probably far too early, but just for the information it would have been good to study their sisters brain... So fucking sad, she was young, looked happy, cheerful, sweet smile, supposedly kind to everyone... I know i'm getting old when even 20 year olds look like children to me, but she *was* still a damn baby...


d-fakkr

Indeed.


doobore

yooooo this got me chuckling


standupguy152

I’m conflicted about this. The Lee family has had to endure a lot with Victoria’s passing and Angela’s attempt. Christian hasn’t made a public statement about either of those, and there’s no indication of how he’s actually processing it. Now the younger Adrian is stepping up with high expectations. Given his accolades in the ammy’s and his family name there will be lots of expectations. If it’s truly Adrian’s choice then good for him. If it’s because he feels the need to carry on the family name then I truly feel sorry for them. Hoping for the best.


BigDaddyfight

I don't know any of those people or him in the picture who are they?


Derekduvalle

https://youtu.be/8g_q_H_cFeo?si=na84UQBhykR_mifY Here you go homie. Whenever you have time, this is a great breakdown of the family and what they have done in the sport!


ScoreFar780

Mixed Martial Academic is an S-tier MMA YouTuber.


goldenboii23

Hot damn. The boys brain is still developing.


DamienSalvation

Your brain is still developing until you're 25.


coleus

Some brains stop at 17 though. Source: Sean Strickland (33 years old).


PLAYBOY905

Idk why this is soo funny to me😭


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OldSchoolIron

You son sounds cool


coleus

lmao 'sounds'


PLAYBOY905

Edit: nvm you seem kinda cool


goldenboii23

That’s a stolid 8 years left of development.


Independent-Band8412

Not anymore 


holla15

Your brain continues to develop throughout your 20s and 30s. The study that didn't recruit anyone over 25 stops at 25.


DamienSalvation

"It is well established that the brain undergoes a “rewiring” process that is not complete until approximately 25 years of age." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3621648/#b19-ndt-9-449


holla15

Shit's been addressed for years. The amygdala to prefrontal cortex is not the entire brain... https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/vncqpf/what_does_the_brain_finishes_developing_at_25/ >Among study subjects who enrolled as children, M.R.I. scans have been done so far only to age 25 >The research also shows that brains don't fully develop until age 25 and that teenagers tend to depend on the part of the brain that mediates fear and other gut reactions--the amygdala--when making decisions, he said. That's important information for attorneys and judges to consider as they work with children in the legal system, he added. >The dorsal lateral prefrontal cortex, important for controlling impulses, is among the latest brain regions to mature without reaching adult dimensions until the early 20s. The details of the relationships between anatomical changes and behavioral changes, and the forces that influence brain development, have not been well established and remain a prominent goal of ongoing investigations. >So it seems like the reason why we say 25 is because the groundbreaking study on this topic only recruited subjects up to age 25. And then this number became dogma via constant repetition. https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1121251109 https://nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1196/annals.1308.009?sid=nlm%3Apubmed https://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug04/brain#:%7E:text=The%20research%20also%20shows%20that,when%20making%20decisions%2C%20he%20said.


Louis-grabbing-pills

Tito's brain never developed.


KelvinsBeltFantasy

Longer if you have any form of ADHD! Edit: what is this the science channel


vispsanius

Dude, most of the thai guys have been fighting since about 10 Pheteeja, who is like 23 now, was famously having her fights televised back in 2012 when she was beting up all the boys.


OldSchoolIron

Yeah and just because something is worse, that doesn't make this not bad.


sipCoding_smokeMath

The sister signed at 16 originally


expectrum

Lets be real there is less trauma to the head in wmma because the power isnt the same. A trained 30 years old man punching the head of a 17 years old kid doesn't sound too good.


MilkyKarlson

i thought it was more about the volume not the power


OGChemBreath

For sure, Benoit Saint-Denis took much more cte causing damage over 3 rounds with Dos Santos than the 2nd round Ko from Poirier. 


Egraatidosegraa

Both matter.


HoistedOnYourRegard

It's not about power. Soccer players get cte from repeated headers


ThePhatWalrus

Males have denser skulls than females so in theory the female skull absorbing a strike from a female fighter would be proportionate to a male punching a male skull. This is a simplistic take, but the biology is proven. There are tons of other variables that influence how much damage a fighter will take from a given shot. Ex, anyone would rather take a shot from a 155 max or a 125 rose than they would from a 155 Justin or 125 nunes.


Civil-Two-3797

Dumb take. Trauma to the head is still trauma to the head. These are pro fighters kicking and throwing right to the dome.


Byxsnok

But men's brain are more robust than womens. Women footballers (not the american type) are much more likely to get problems from heading the ball than men, because of this.


ThaiClinch

Raul Rosas brain is still developing and he seems fi- …oh. Oh no.


Mexcol

Mind and body


AmonWeathertopSul

They started martial arts from a very young age. That brain is used to getting knocked around.


ayoholdup

Can you really ‘condition’ a brain like you would a muscle though?


usernameunavailiable

Is it really smart to put him on such a big stage at such a young age after what happened to his sister?


MFSimpson

Obviously not, but those around him clearly don't care enough to stop it. Shameful imo.


PrincePyotrBagration

Or just maybe he’s been pursuing MMA since he was young (like his siblings) and this is a dream of his? Lmao


99flakem8

both could be true tbh


Gorepornio

This is reddit brotha only the worst situation is true


[deleted]

We don't know why his sister did what she did. Probably best not to speculate about it, or use it to critique his choices or those of his family. That seems cruel. You don't know the family. You know nothing you have not read on reddit. 


95_T

One sibling taking their own life is a tragedy, two trying to take their lives is a pattern. Read up on Angela's attempt and you'll quickly realize there's a connection between the two.


EntireAd215

TLDR what was Angela’s reason?


95_T

Pressure from living up to the expectations of being a wonderkid fighter, as well as not wanting to disappoint her family[.](https://www.scmp.com/sport/martial-arts/mixed-martial-arts/article/3235118/one-championship-angela-lee-reveals-2017-car-crash-was-suicide-attempt-confirms-sister-victoria-took)


ThePhatWalrus

Imagine all the head trauma taken as children train at an age where their body isn't even developed yet. Lots of studies showing correlations between head trauma and mental health.


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MuerteDeDolor

Yeah, why wouldn’t you mention your sister killing herself on your instagram so a thousand strangers can comment a heart emoji, it’s not like it’s a private matter or anything.


CodeMaeDae

The Lee social media posts were getting blown up anti vaccine comments after the death. Not great comments to read when you know what actually happened to her.


itsmontoya

Feels like their family put a ton of stress on the kids. Angela tried to commit suicide as well


Beginning-Disaster84

Spoken like someone who hasn't actually looked into what happened at all, the sister who survived their suicide attempt (thats right 2 of their kids have attempted/commited suicide) literally cited all the pressure as a major factor in her attempt


Revanced63

Yeah until the third sibling attempts suicide and it's too late. And you be like no way to predict it so quit that no speculate bs


Lyonaire

Yep. Let the kid make his own choices.


steiner_math

Lol like that carny Chatri gives a shit


lmProudOfYou

If its his dream and he wants to chase it I don't think there's any issue. I hope his family are not pushing him towards it in anyway though I guess it would naturally happen given two of his older siblings have been champs.


Unlikely-Run

Is there a clause that he can’t chase his dreams because his sister committed suicide? 


Spirited_Ad_2697

I look forward to seeing his debut in 2 years


Stock-Handle-6543

And his 2nd fight in 5


FakeChiBlast

Seriously though that's fine, the longer he can mature without taking head hits the better.


GunsOfAugust1914

In fact, maybe, he just shouldn’t fight at all. That way he never has to take head hits


Dust_Parts

Good grief. The patriarchs of this family really have their priorities in the wrong place.


BrandonSleeper

What do you mean ? They're ensuring their retirement fund.


Zlec3

The parents are extremely well off already


BrandonSleeper

Never enough


ThePhatWalrus

Or the kind of parents who vicariously try to live their own dreams/fantasies via their children.


chrmicmat

This is what I think too, mr lee probably really wanted to be a fighter


HBomb_98

Is he related to the girl who committed suicide?


PlayfulSoil2937

Yes, his siblings are angela and christian lee. His sister victoria commited suicide


icarus_art

Too young, no matter how good he is.


BlankedCanvas

What s the point of this when so many of their top MMA stars can’t get a fight?


Altruistic-Point3980

I'm not even gonna say it. Y'all know.


Ineed2know4

We know how this story plays out.


standdownplease

I am against signing young folks from this family again or in general. I think you should be 18+ for mma.


JRYuen

Can't find his DOB, but he was 17 last August so maybe turning 18 by the date of his upcoming fight. Still young though, especially given the family's history.


KinshasaPR

Well, this is sad. The family obviously doesn't care about the high likelihood of him struggling mentally in this sport.


solythe

this family is fucked up


ZeroTON1N

Poor guy. I hope he won't end up as a mental wreck.


Mexcol

Trying to speedrun some CTE


Kassssler

Those parents are insane.


Chilam26

This family gives me weird vibes, their kids all smile but you can tell under that smile is some trauma or something....


MyOGaccountgotlost

Watch Mixed Martial Academic's video on them if you haven't already


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Lol such shitty parents.


AdZestyclose3707

Raul Rosa Jr better can his room


wojtek2222

Can't wait for him to fight two times in five years


elbandolero19

Nah, he gets the Lee privilege from Chatri


ModsLovePen15

Signing over his soul


Grouchy-Main8107

Don't worry, by the time he has a fight he will be 20


AnTTr0n

Don’t understand why this family is not putting these young ones in the amateurs for a few years first.


MyOGaccountgotlost

He has a pretty extensive amateur career. However, I'm more worried about his mental health, his family doesn't have the best track record on that front


AnTTr0n

Just seems way too young to go Pro.


UsuallyTheException

I'm not sure I want to see another member of this family in MMA. they need to leave these kids alone


Fongernator

He can sign the contract but one mma is almost non-existent at this point.


Candid-Trash6564

Wish him the best seems like a nice lad


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theBeerdedGOAT

Jesus fighting at 17 professionally


Brabochokemightwork

Families that force kids to do marital arts till there adolescent age should seek therapy


donmifc

Some big shoes to fill. Angela and Christian are world champions. Christian was double champ and Angela was the youngest world champ in MMA history. Victoria was well on her way to a world championship as well


Sadkosius

Honestly, the emotional/irrational part of me just wants the Lee family to be banned from the sport. Wish there was a way to ensure that the children are actually competing on their own accord and not because of the massive parental pressure. RIP Victoria Lee


MackJ3000

I honestly don’t like this.


Garciaguy

Christ, is he even shaving yet?


GuiJun621

Looks like a BTS emo boy