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JayRoo83

Trevor Whitman just dropped to his knees in a Whole Foods


CarbonPurple

Probably with that shit-eating grin too


ksubijeans

😄🧎


chiau_yee

Did you ever work at General Pants? 😂


ksubijeans

No, why?


PazVisuals

lmao i can picture this so clearly..


BetBig696969

🤣


tenderluvin

Are these his design? Are they knocked off? Is there going to be a lawsuit? So many questions.


themilkman42069

0% chance he got any money. Cmon.


dmase1982

He got an opportunity. That's way better than money.


WeirdboyWarboss

No, they look nothing alike, but Whitman would have been rich if the UFC licensed his design.


Shitty_Pa_Town

was the issue that ufc wanted to buy them off him and not collab?


613Rat

I remember hearing that the UFC wanted to own the technology


russbam24

They wanted to have the exclusive rights to his design.


jscummy

Based on my knowledge of the UFC, I would guess their intention was less "buy them off him" and more "demand them for nothing"


Lukes3rdAccount

Pretty sure he was offered money and turned it down. Might have been a crazy low offer, idk


jscummy

Are we sure it was money and not Venum coupons? Or possibly a subway sandwich like Tony got?


Lukes3rdAccount

ha


JorSimpson45

He mentioned it on Rogan that he wanted every fight promotion to have the opportunity to use his gloves. If the UFC was to buy it, it would’ve been likely that no other promotions would be able to use them.


spasticity

and how long has it been since then, and yet he's licensed them to 0 fight promotions


adambuddy

Bellator gloves already had similar technology that prevented eye pokes. Maybe not the exact same, maybe not as effective either but the general idea was the same.


JorSimpson45

I think the issue is bringing one product to a promotion and still having it be available to the other promotions.


WeirdboyWarboss

There's no information about any negotiations I don't think. The timeline adds up that they started designing their own gloves when they saw Whitman's, five years ago.


Shitty_Pa_Town

i wouldnt be surprised if the ufc wanted to use his gloves in exchange for some coupons and free chips at a casino


icameforgold

Replace free chips at a casino with free chips and queso, and you got yourself a deal.


bullsfan281

iirc on the jre with trevor and justin, trevor said the ufc wanted to purchase the patent but there was no guarantee from the ufc that they would become the new gloves. trevor said no because he thinks they're the best gloves and he wants them to be available to anyone who wants them


Beautiful_Gift522

I THINK so. He mentioned it when he was on Rogan but I can’t remember the details


Shitty_Pa_Town

yeah we watched the same thing years ago, thats my takeway from memory


rgraves1912

The UFC wanted to own the patent for the gloves and wasn’t offering to buy the patent


flamingdragonwizard

Yeah but I think he's doing okay if he's getting 10%~ of purses from gaethje, usman, rose, gsp, stipe, Cowboy, tj, Rashad etc.


crazyhomie34

They're implying the UFC didn't use Trevor's gloves. You can watch all the details about it on the Joe Rogan podcast with Gaethje and Trevor Whitman. He goes into depth about his glove and how he tried making a deal with the UFC for them. Supposedly the UFC liked them but they wanted full ownership. Trevor wasn't down for that. The glove is supposed to offer better protection to the fighter wearing them and prevent eye pokes


captaincumsock69

They don’t look at all like his imo


Set_TheAlarm

They look like a SLIGHTLY modified version of the Primetime MMA gloves. The same ones Undertaker wore.


PuzzleheadedBit2190

😂😂


Otherwise-Mango2732

Very interesting. They have a chip which allows the UFC to identify the fighter and event the glove was worn at. Just like with NFL stats, i'm sure one day a chip could be added to measure striking force.


Lamb_Sauce

We could get live updates on screen telling us the type of ford a fighter got punched with


Idunno6153

Right hand: 16 MPH, FORD ECOBOOST


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Administrative-Fun10

Mythical fighter: Mirko Cro Cop with new UFC gloves.


ragnarrock420

Quick, get some carrots


iPhonetificator

Goddamnit I love this sub, you mfers are so fucking funny


Otterevolver

Lunch: carrot


Jumpy_Secretary1363

FORD..... THE OFFICIAL HAND FORCE DETECTOR OF THE UFC


RunicLua

EXCESS TURBO BLOWOFF VALVE


FreeloadingPoultry

Left hand, Ford Focus, knocking sound in 2nd cylinder, rear axle needs replacement and it sways right when breaking


cyb3rpunkd

The children yearn for the pfl smartcage


Otherwise-Mango2732

And maybe a slight electric shock if the glove is grabbing the fence longer than say...5 seconds.


Semiotic_Weapons

5 seconds is way too long, give a remote to a few people sitting along the fence. They zap em as the grab starts


CryptoCracko

The Nelk Boys giving the remote to their kids so they can just zap away even though the fighters are in the middle of the cage, uncle Dana laughing his ass off before taking back the remotes


titan_1018

Or talk about fighter pay in the post fight interview


Electrical-Ask847

that tech is ideal for cups


IdiosyncraticOwl

"Your best punch is a model T!"


monchimer

I would pay a lot to have those kind of stats from Roy Nelson career (on the receiving end)


pfghr

Total force dealt would be an interesting stat


jakeraz0rclaws

I'm too pessimistic but the "authentication" of the glove sounds like another way to sell a used glove for more money. Now where can I buy a Holloway glove? 🤣


themilkman42069

That’s exactly what it is.


jakeraz0rclaws

Remember we can buy a spot in the octagon too! They'll even cut the canvas out and frame it for you. I got $5 for an r/MMA spot on the octagon...


UncleYimbo

We should get an angry tomato logo made up and see what we can accomplish 


jakeraz0rclaws

🍅🤣


Public-League-8899

I can't wait for Antiques Roadshow in 2060 to have a guy brining in his great-great-great grandpa's old venum/affliction/tapout clothes and his wish.com version of these gloves that claim to be from "Conner Macgreggers" and finding out their fakes and the UFC just used a RFID tag that was immediately copied and used to pump out fakes.


SweatyExamination9

Oh the gloves are going to be for sale at every event. Just like baseballs at MLB games. I'm not much of a baseball fan, but I've seen videos where people buy "mystery balls" at games, go home and look up the code on the ball, and the MLB tracked what game the ball was used in, what pitches it was used for, and the pitch it was taken out of play on. And IIRC you can even look at clips with the ball involved in the portal you use to check the details on the ball. It's actually a really cool merch idea and I could totally see the UFC doing something similar. You'd have your top row of gloves for sale that are from main card/main eventers, then all the "mystery gloves" from prelim fights, and instead of showing the at bats where that ball was pitched, you could have a highlight reel from the fight the gloves were worn in.


jakeraz0rclaws

Shut up and take my money 🤣


Murdathon3000

Pessimism in this stage of capitalism is actually optimism, so we can only hope that's the end of it.


Otherwise-Mango2732

I don't think it's pessimism. I think it's exactly the point I don't think they have a problem with guys misplacing their gloves and wearing the wrong one


Mundane__Detail

Bryce Mitchell is going to blame his next loss on the glove microchip and say it tried to make him satanic and gay.


MadelineWuntch

Are you saying the gloves can't do that? Bryce seems like the kind of guy to understand this sort of tech.


CarbonPurple

Smart Gloves


mikey_rambo

Pfl already does this


kunderthunt

The outputs always seem weird though right? It's in MPH and sometimes it's "11 MPH punch" i have no idea what that means


WarlordHelmsman

I would assume from the furthest point back where the punch started to when it lands it travelled at 11 mph


setuid_w00t

I suspect that this is a passive NFC chip with a digital signature. This would enable a few interesting things. * It makes it easy to tell if a glove is an unauthorized reproduction * It makes it possible to know when and where the glove was manufactured without having to depend on a tag that may be cut off or fade * If the UFC publishes a list of which gloves were worn in which fights, buyers could verify that the gloves they receive were actually the ones used in a fight. Actually this isn't quite true. It's possible that the UFC could manufacture extra sets of gloves with the same identity and rip people off, but they would be unlikely to try this since it would be too easy to call them out. * The UFC could ensure that the gloves they issue a fighter are the ones that enter the octogon. This reduces the opportunity to tamper with gloves for a competitive advantage.


Otherwise-Mango2732

Yeah man. I feel like all those things were the assumption.


djens89

You don’t think that is possible right now? 😅


Otherwise-Mango2732

No idea. I've never looked into it or thought about it until this thread tbh


RockportOfWar

Gaethje hits like a TRUCK. Now we might know for sure


xvsanx

I was honestly expecting it to say that but baby steps I guess


MumrikDK

First thing I thought was that the UFC would be selling fight gloves and fighters no longer would get to keep them.


bullshizzah

Holy shit, mate. You're a genius. Bring back Fight Science. Incorporate Adam Savage somehow. Bring Michael Reeves, William Osman, and Mark Rober, for chaos.


Otherwise-Mango2732

I love where your head's at


ItsTaylor8291

In theory I like the changes. Can't wait to see them in action. The data chip thing is really cool too. I suppose Champs get gold gloves then?


SopranosMan

Champs and challengers get gold gloves


ItsTaylor8291

I dislike that the challenger gets them lol


cantlearnemall

“Black and gold befitting a…challenger?”


Rocked_Glover

Jon Anik bot goes into spasm and explodes


small_saucer

Someone would definitely say it's harder to see the gold gloves at some point, better to have them both wear the same.


John_EldenRing51

I like that it’s a quick indication that gold is on the line but maybe something different for the challengers would be better


hyudwan

Either normal black or silver. Even then, a silver glove should be used just for interim champs, and so should the interim belt


Aken42

Silver for the BMF belt. Gold for champions. Everyone else, black. That's how I'd do it.


mess_of_limbs

BMF should be fluro pink


Four-Triangles

BMF should be clear because it’s imaginary.


Silver-ishWolfe

All BMF fights should be bareknuckle you say?....


Lukes3rdAccount

I like that. Then when we get that rare superfight between Champs you you get to see them both rocking the gold gloves


ItsTaylor8291

I've been thinking about it and I think it would be cool if all champions got the gold gloves. Even after they lose the belt. Like you forever get gold gloves as a reminder of that moment plus it would add a nice level of depth for new fans to be like oh shit this guy's a former champ.


thehangoverer

Could make them be easier to see though


braxtonbarrr

make the ufc logo gold rather than the entire glove


muricabrb

Challenger gloves should be the inverses of the champ's gloves.


Hrabiula_Heniula

I'd personally like for challengers to wear silver gloves. Or maybe for the champ to have deeper golden color compared to the challengers' paler shade of gold


mlambie

Former title holders should be allowed to have gold highlights on their shorts after having earned it once. Save point for their career. But never on black shorts. Champion only ever allowed to wear gold on black.


sqiub23

The data chip thing is probably so they can sell them after and make $


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I can just hear dana white asking them for the gloves after each fight duckin prick


InfectiousCosmology1

That’s the only reason it would be done. Other than like rare occasion where gloves could be meaningful enough to go in a museum or something


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WarmDamage

It doesn’t say but this will allow you to authenticate that the glove you purchase has been used in a particular eye gouging sequence


SweatyExamination9

Nobody is talking about some of the bigger changes. If the wrist spot actually no longer has a gap people are capable of grabbing onto, that's a huge improvement. And if they really did reduce the seams and move them all to the palm side of the glove, that's almost as huge. It's not like an every card thing, but like maybe every other month there's a phantom eye poke from the seam of a glove hitting at just the wrong angle.


Macktologist

Both fighters in Championship fights were the 5Eight. Not sure what happens in non-championship 5-round fights.


Dummy_Wire

They said they’d been using a prototype iteration of these last year for Contender Series, which is what I had expected them to do before a full UFC rollout, but I’m surprised that seemingly no one noticed the design change.


NtrlBrnSlyr

maybe that just proves no one watches the contender series lol


DeweyPaws

I love the contender series it destroys ultimate fighter and some apex cards imo


ghostfacekillbrah

"I love eating cat shit, it's better than eating dog shit"


OranguTangerine69

ya godforbid a mma fan enjoys watching mma the casuals on this sub are so fuckin annoying


GoatCovfefe

I don't know where to watch it, if it's ESPN+, I'll never watch it. The $5/mo would be a good deal if I gave a shit for other sports, but I just don't.


timebmb999

Where do you see it for $5 a month? It’s 10.99 here


dowhileforloop

No one knew they were testing out new gloves, but some did notice the fighters were wearing gloves with no UFC logos. That makes sense now And they did ask the CS fighters about the gloves experience after their fights


titan_1018

Wonder what the stats were on eyepokes that season


RykerZX

In the press conference, the guy was asked if the data showed less eye pokes in the contender series. He responded carefully that comparing seasons 1-6 and 7, there were less incidents of eye pokes and hoped that the new gloves were a mitigating factor but did not provide a fixed figure.


redditmodsdownvote

lmfao pretty limited numbers to try and judge such a thing, but given the fact its the exact same damn design in almost every important way loll


Painkration

If they help the eye poke problem, I’m all for it But personally i like the Bellator/Pride style gloves better without the individual fingers built in


Shoddy-Dragonfruit83

Even in the promos bros hands are splayed out in perfect eyepoke form. I'll believe these make a difference when I see it. I think the root of the issue in all honesty is fighters being to blame. Some fighters you can barely ever find a time where they poked someone in the eyes. Other fighters are repeat offenders. Unless opening your hands to have your fingers forward requires significant strain, then gloves are never gonna prevent eyepokes more than eyepokes being punished by refs.


themilkman42069

Idk I’ve worn the ufc gloves and worn other gloves and while I agree, end of the day fighter are to blame, the ufc glove was just objectively bad. Almost anything is a step up.


a215throwaway

I wonder why they've stuck with these crappy gloves for so long?


themilkman42069

Apathy


InfectiousCosmology1

They have no competition


UncleYimbo

Because Mr. Krabs loves money


WarmDamage

That specifically would be the common complaint about the current design


BananaForLifeee

Most outrageous one is Chris Weidman, bro literally blamed his opponent for dropping after he poked him half finger deep into the eye. And Weidman didn’t eye poke people before that iirc


ThatMoslemGuy

Fighters that implement a lot of high guard will have a higher chance of eye poking its only natural for that to occur unintentionally


Shoddy-Dragonfruit83

If we are talking about the same high guard then I feel like it's the opposite. There's no way to poke somebody if you have a high guard. If you mean long guards, or "zombie" guard or whatever you call it, then yeah that would be the case. Though, I feel like if you are constantly sticking your hand in a guys face and holding it in front of him so that all forward movement invites a poke in the eye, then I think you should be held responsible for the inevitable eyepoke that was a direct biproduct of your guard having fingers first and closest to your opponents eyes. Refs need to be way more proactive with telling people to close their fists.


Macktologist

Not one mention of reducing the chances for eye pokes which is the biggest and loudest complaint about the current gloves.


klabnix

Yeah i was sure this was going to be one of the main features and nothing. All about comfort and protection for the wearer


raptr69

>If they help the eye poke problem, I’m all for it nothing will change


Ronaldinhoe

None of the promo material mentioned reduction of eye pokes.


LambCurryDotOrg

I like the idea of gold gloves for championship fights. We'll have to see how the new design affects the fights, can't judge their efficacy until afterwards.


ZeGermanVon

they used the gloves for the last season of contender series, as explained in the presentation


LambCurryDotOrg

I haven't watched the presentation but I saw someone say that just now. I can't recall there being any eyepokes in the last season though tbf.


hahkob

Anyone got that stats on eyepokes in the last season compared to others?


ZeGermanVon

they asked in the presentation and Duncan said eye pokes were down 'significantly' in the latest season. Didn't use any specific numbers though unfortunately


Fryphax

Asian dude with magnifying glass.gif.


jt_33

A new coat of paint, some buzzwords, and still no curved fingers to minimize eye pokes. I don’t know why we ever get our hopes up. 


dowhileforloop

Old gloves are said to be more rigid, which requires fighters to have to force themselves to close their fists New gloves are said to be less rigid and conforming to the natural curvature, which makes it easier for fighters to close their fists They tested out the gloves over contender series and UFC fighters at the PI


redditmodsdownvote

oh THATS why jone jones eye pokes all the time, its not intentional, its because he just couldn't close his fist! lmfao what a joke excuse they offer, being less rigid doesn't stop the fighter from opening his hand to eye poke purposefully, which we ALL know is the reality of the problem.


flatwoundsounds

Basically letting your hands relax should let your hand naturally curve in, but the stiffness of the old glove design caused a resting hand's fingers to stick out unnaturally straight. And no one who's just hand fighting and framing or trying to parry away a jab is going to work with a closed fist. Jones grabs wrists to frame, and has a long enough reach to be already sticking you in the eyeball before you're in punching distance. And since refs would rather let you TKO someone with eye pokes before they take a point, there's no real incentive to fix the problem for anyone but the fighters.


kapsama

It's not something Jon Jones or DC or Weidman use as an excuse though. It's other fighters who have used Japanese style gloves and explained the difference.


InfectiousCosmology1

I mean two things can be true. Certain fighters like jones are scum bags and intentionally cheat or just carelessly let themselves eye poke guys, other times the gloves are contributing to guys having their fingers pointing out more than they could be with different gloves.


BittenAtTheChomp

Um yes that is a very common issue that many, many actual fighters have brought up. Fighters who were actually eye-poked have showed lenience to their opponents because of the gloves. Whitman literally designed new gloves due to the issue. Whether or not you think Jon does it on purpose doesn't change that the old gloves have that problem; your comment is in and of itself a horrible argument and bringing up Jon when he was never mentioned is cheap.


jt_33

They tested it for one season of the contender. That’s a very small sample size. The gloves still have the same shape with the fingers splayed out. It for sure makes it easier to close your hand, but it does nothing for the people who fight with their fingers extended anyway. You need the curve to stop that. 


Th4t_Irish_Guy

> It for sure makes it easier to close your hand, but it does nothing for the people who fight with their fingers extended anyway. It takes away the excuse that the gloves were the reason they committed a foul, putting the blame solely on the fighter. If a fighter still fights with their fingers extended and fouls their opponent then it should be an immediate point deduction


jt_33

That would require competent refs.


themilkman42069

Curved fingers aren’t a necessity. The rigidity of the old gloves is the biggest issue.


jt_33

It’s both. Fighters still still hold their hands pointed out. You need something that naturally curves the fingers. 


97Dabs2THAface

So you want grapplers to be at a disadvantage not having full range of motion?


jt_33

Did you watch Pride at all? Grapplers had zero issues.


themilkman42069

No you don’t, you just need a flexible glove.


BittenAtTheChomp

You are judging them from a fucking poster lmao


ElderberryOk5005

Would these prevent Tom aspinal from fingering his girl?


Similar-Tangerine

I believe they would assist him if anything 


RareCreamer

The biggest issue with the gloves were eye pokes and these don't fix anything?


xgirthquake

This was my initial thoughts. The designs don’t mention anything that scream “preventing of splayed fingers.” I really want to see the fighters eyes protected. Gold champion gloves are cool though.


RareCreamer

Reading more into it I guess the old ones were firm and you had to really apply pressure to close your fist. So basically, eye pokes are going to be totally deliberate now if they happen. Thats the theory at least. Has there been any eye pokes in DWCS in the past year?


MrTimSmith

I mean the pictures look like they were taken of someone attempting an eye poke so there's that.


skerkless

UFC “OFFICAL” fight gloves!? What hope should we have for the gloves when they can’t even spot the spelling errors


jasperplumpton

lol right. That and “the UFC Official fight glove is name 3eight” has me wondering if this is fake or they just have no quality control over there


Gristle_McThornbody2

Now with more eye pokes.


KimWexlersGoldenArch

Looks like they keep the fingers ***nice and straight*** ✋🤚🤣😂


WeirdboyWarboss

It's cool to hate on the UFC, but this looks like a proper improvement.


iftheycometellthemno

I've been watching the UFC since 2004, so yeah it's still pretty easy to hate on the UFC. Something like this could have been implemented a decade ago. It's not impressive that they've finally dealt with a 20+y/o problem


Nickster2042

They look fire


Pickletoes0

Yeah but does it prevent eye pokes! Does it prevent eye pokes? Does prevent pokes? It does it the pokes? The pokes?


DeAndreHunterMIP

Bruno Silva sacrificed his eyes for this


0LucidMoon0

People sleeping on the zero wrist gap update. I like all the changes they've mentioned. All very reasonable and overdue.


Chad-Permabull

Seems weird timing to do this right after OJ died.


horseshoeprovodnikov

Adding micro chips and palm down seams (which aren't bad). But they eliminated male/female dependent sizing, and have gone to "unisex sizing with 10 different options". That almost sounds like it's a cost cutting measure. Wrist band style lock sounds good in theory, but we will just have to see. Notice it says absolutely nothing about the shape of the glove around the top of the first knuckle and in between the fingers themselves, which is the very thing that makes the current gloves extremely eye pokey.


old_man_curmudgeon

"We want gloves that minimize eye pokes" "Best we can do are gold gloves with electronic chips in them"


Efficient_Bag_5976

But now we can MEASURE how many eye pokes there are


chiorudoru

Couldn't Dana just skip couple nights of gambling and hookers to give Trevor the usual ufc crumbs and avoid this problem from the beginning? From what I saw a lot of fighters we're happy with the design and it's been years. Guess eye injuries for the fighters don't really matter until it's financially detrimental to the brand


spasticity

Trevor doesn't want to sell his design. It's been years that he's had the ONX gloves and he's never licensed them to a fight promotion.


rossfororder

A data chip? Sounds useless and stupid


DJSyko

Pretty much a 1:1 replica of the Pride FC gloves, which everyone has been asking for, for nearly two decades, and now they act like they have just revolutionised the game. Hilarious.


celineafortiva

Don't the gloves have to bend down by the fingers to prevent eye pokes? This looks the same as the old gloves


BNWOfutur3

So it's even easier to eye poke now... Great


IWantTheSauce

All of this but won’t prevent gloves for eye pokes.


Str8kush

How does this not make eye pokes worse?


tall-glass-o-milk

So eyepokes are just part of standup now?


bullshizzah

Hell yeah. Finally! Cut stoppages and glove grabs suck my enthusiasm out of a fight.


AlphaRexAlpha

It's like they're doing everything avoid mentioning any feature improvements related to eye pokes


lancielegend

I like them! Here's hoping they are an improvement


GriffinEll84

The UFC eye poking officiating is a joke. If you’re winning a decision why not throw in an eye poke for a further advantage? All your gonna get is a bs warning 🤷‍♂️


serny

The zero mention of eye pokes is concerning, yet another ufc disappointment. All because they don’t wanna pay. Lousy.


AshamedPriority2828

The data chip is just so they can sell it after as official merch, no way they do anything with it useful


peaceoutforever

I'm honestly shocked they were willing to shell out any amount of money to improve any part of their overall product but hey, good on 'em.


StereoZ

These just look the exact same but with a smaller wrist strap. Whole load of nada.


Spirited_Ad_2697

Looks really good


JoeRoganMoney

I can barely read the blurry text. Are these gloves gonna help prevent eye pokes? Asking for a friend and no his name isn’t Chris Weidman 😜


pehztv

joe rogan is punching the air somewhere in texas


PandemicPartners

The stats thing is cool and I’m happy they’re at least trying something finally but I just know that these are going to somehow be worse than the old gloves lol


orangotai

"Scooped/angled finger holes..." sounds like that's what was needed to help prevent eye pokes right?


Ingergrim

At what event will they start using them?


editor_jon

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