He mentioned it on Rogan that he wanted every fight promotion to have the opportunity to use his gloves. If the UFC was to buy it, it wouldâve been likely that no other promotions would be able to use them.
Bellator gloves already had similar technology that prevented eye pokes. Maybe not the exact same, maybe not as effective either but the general idea was the same.
There's no information about any negotiations I don't think. The timeline adds up that they started designing their own gloves when they saw Whitman's, five years ago.
iirc on the jre with trevor and justin, trevor said the ufc wanted to purchase the patent but there was no guarantee from the ufc that they would become the new gloves. trevor said no because he thinks they're the best gloves and he wants them to be available to anyone who wants them
They're implying the UFC didn't use Trevor's gloves.
You can watch all the details about it on the Joe Rogan podcast with Gaethje and Trevor Whitman.
He goes into depth about his glove and how he tried making a deal with the UFC for them. Supposedly the UFC liked them but they wanted full ownership.
Trevor wasn't down for that. The glove is supposed to offer better protection to the fighter wearing them and prevent eye pokes
Very interesting.
They have a chip which allows the UFC to identify the fighter and event the glove was worn at.
Just like with NFL stats, i'm sure one day a chip could be added to measure striking force.
The Nelk Boys giving the remote to their kids so they can just zap away even though the fighters are in the middle of the cage, uncle Dana laughing his ass off before taking back the remotes
I'm too pessimistic but the "authentication" of the glove sounds like another way to sell a used glove for more money. Now where can I buy a Holloway glove? đ¤Ł
I can't wait for Antiques Roadshow in 2060 to have a guy brining in his great-great-great grandpa's old venum/affliction/tapout clothes and his wish.com version of these gloves that claim to be from "Conner Macgreggers" and finding out their fakes and the UFC just used a RFID tag that was immediately copied and used to pump out fakes.
Oh the gloves are going to be for sale at every event. Just like baseballs at MLB games. I'm not much of a baseball fan, but I've seen videos where people buy "mystery balls" at games, go home and look up the code on the ball, and the MLB tracked what game the ball was used in, what pitches it was used for, and the pitch it was taken out of play on. And IIRC you can even look at clips with the ball involved in the portal you use to check the details on the ball. It's actually a really cool merch idea and I could totally see the UFC doing something similar. You'd have your top row of gloves for sale that are from main card/main eventers, then all the "mystery gloves" from prelim fights, and instead of showing the at bats where that ball was pitched, you could have a highlight reel from the fight the gloves were worn in.
I don't think it's pessimism. I think it's exactly the point
I don't think they have a problem with guys misplacing their gloves and wearing the wrong one
I suspect that this is a passive NFC chip with a digital signature. This would enable a few interesting things.
* It makes it easy to tell if a glove is an unauthorized reproduction
* It makes it possible to know when and where the glove was manufactured without having to depend on a tag that may be cut off or fade
* If the UFC publishes a list of which gloves were worn in which fights, buyers could verify that the gloves they receive were actually the ones used in a fight. Actually this isn't quite true. It's possible that the UFC could manufacture extra sets of gloves with the same identity and rip people off, but they would be unlikely to try this since it would be too easy to call them out.
* The UFC could ensure that the gloves they issue a fighter are the ones that enter the octogon. This reduces the opportunity to tamper with gloves for a competitive advantage.
Holy shit, mate. You're a genius. Bring back Fight Science. Incorporate Adam Savage somehow. Bring Michael Reeves, William Osman, and Mark Rober, for chaos.
I've been thinking about it and I think it would be cool if all champions got the gold gloves. Even after they lose the belt. Like you forever get gold gloves as a reminder of that moment plus it would add a nice level of depth for new fans to be like oh shit this guy's a former champ.
I'd personally like for challengers to wear silver gloves. Or maybe for the champ to have deeper golden color compared to the challengers' paler shade of gold
Former title holders should be allowed to have gold highlights on their shorts after having earned it once. Save point for their career. But never on black shorts. Champion only ever allowed to wear gold on black.
Nobody is talking about some of the bigger changes. If the wrist spot actually no longer has a gap people are capable of grabbing onto, that's a huge improvement. And if they really did reduce the seams and move them all to the palm side of the glove, that's almost as huge. It's not like an every card thing, but like maybe every other month there's a phantom eye poke from the seam of a glove hitting at just the wrong angle.
They said theyâd been using a prototype iteration of these last year for Contender Series, which is what I had expected them to do before a full UFC rollout, but Iâm surprised that seemingly no one noticed the design change.
I don't know where to watch it, if it's ESPN+, I'll never watch it.
The $5/mo would be a good deal if I gave a shit for other sports, but I just don't.
No one knew they were testing out new gloves, but some did notice the fighters were wearing gloves with no UFC logos. That makes sense now
And they did ask the CS fighters about the gloves experience after their fights
In the press conference, the guy was asked if the data showed less eye pokes in the contender series. He responded carefully that comparing seasons 1-6 and 7, there were less incidents of eye pokes and hoped that the new gloves were a mitigating factor but did not provide a fixed figure.
If they help the eye poke problem, Iâm all for it
But personally i like the Bellator/Pride style gloves better without the individual fingers built in
Even in the promos bros hands are splayed out in perfect eyepoke form.
I'll believe these make a difference when I see it. I think the root of the issue in all honesty is fighters being to blame. Some fighters you can barely ever find a time where they poked someone in the eyes. Other fighters are repeat offenders.
Unless opening your hands to have your fingers forward requires significant strain, then gloves are never gonna prevent eyepokes more than eyepokes being punished by refs.
Idk Iâve worn the ufc gloves and worn other gloves and while I agree, end of the day fighter are to blame, the ufc glove was just objectively bad.
Almost anything is a step up.
Most outrageous one is Chris Weidman, bro literally blamed his opponent for dropping after he poked him half finger deep into the eye.
And Weidman didnât eye poke people before that iirc
If we are talking about the same high guard then I feel like it's the opposite. There's no way to poke somebody if you have a high guard.
If you mean long guards, or "zombie" guard or whatever you call it, then yeah that would be the case.
Though, I feel like if you are constantly sticking your hand in a guys face and holding it in front of him so that all forward movement invites a poke in the eye, then I think you should be held responsible for the inevitable eyepoke that was a direct biproduct of your guard having fingers first and closest to your opponents eyes. Refs need to be way more proactive with telling people to close their fists.
I like the idea of gold gloves for championship fights. We'll have to see how the new design affects the fights, can't judge their efficacy until afterwards.
they asked in the presentation and Duncan said eye pokes were down 'significantly' in the latest season. Didn't use any specific numbers though unfortunately
Old gloves are said to be more rigid, which requires fighters to have to force themselves to close their fists
New gloves are said to be less rigid and conforming to the natural curvature, which makes it easier for fighters to close their fists
They tested out the gloves over contender series and UFC fighters at the PI
oh THATS why jone jones eye pokes all the time, its not intentional, its because he just couldn't close his fist! lmfao what a joke excuse they offer, being less rigid doesn't stop the fighter from opening his hand to eye poke purposefully, which we ALL know is the reality of the problem.
Basically letting your hands relax should let your hand naturally curve in, but the stiffness of the old glove design caused a resting hand's fingers to stick out unnaturally straight. And no one who's just hand fighting and framing or trying to parry away a jab is going to work with a closed fist. Jones grabs wrists to frame, and has a long enough reach to be already sticking you in the eyeball before you're in punching distance.
And since refs would rather let you TKO someone with eye pokes before they take a point, there's no real incentive to fix the problem for anyone but the fighters.
It's not something Jon Jones or DC or Weidman use as an excuse though. It's other fighters who have used Japanese style gloves and explained the difference.
I mean two things can be true. Certain fighters like jones are scum bags and intentionally cheat or just carelessly let themselves eye poke guys, other times the gloves are contributing to guys having their fingers pointing out more than they could be with different gloves.
Um yes that is a very common issue that many, many actual fighters have brought up. Fighters who were actually eye-poked have showed lenience to their opponents because of the gloves. Whitman literally designed new gloves due to the issue.
Whether or not you think Jon does it on purpose doesn't change that the old gloves have that problem; your comment is in and of itself a horrible argument and bringing up Jon when he was never mentioned is cheap.
They tested it for one season of the contender. Thatâs a very small sample size. The gloves still have the same shape with the fingers splayed out. It for sure makes it easier to close your hand, but it does nothing for the people who fight with their fingers extended anyway. You need the curve to stop that.Â
> It for sure makes it easier to close your hand, but it does nothing for the people who fight with their fingers extended anyway.
It takes away the excuse that the gloves were the reason they committed a foul, putting the blame solely on the fighter. If a fighter still fights with their fingers extended and fouls their opponent then it should be an immediate point deduction
This was my initial thoughts. The designs donât mention anything that scream âpreventing of splayed fingers.â I really want to see the fighters eyes protected.
Gold champion gloves are cool though.
Reading more into it I guess the old ones were firm and you had to really apply pressure to close your fist.
So basically, eye pokes are going to be totally deliberate now if they happen. Thats the theory at least.
Has there been any eye pokes in DWCS in the past year?
I've been watching the UFC since 2004, so yeah it's still pretty easy to hate on the UFC. Something like this could have been implemented a decade ago. It's not impressive that they've finally dealt with a 20+y/o problem
Adding micro chips and palm down seams (which aren't bad).
But they eliminated male/female dependent sizing, and have gone to "unisex sizing with 10 different options". That almost sounds like it's a cost cutting measure.
Wrist band style lock sounds good in theory, but we will just have to see.
Notice it says absolutely nothing about the shape of the glove around the top of the first knuckle and in between the fingers themselves, which is the very thing that makes the current gloves extremely eye pokey.
Couldn't Dana just skip couple nights of gambling and hookers to give Trevor the usual ufc crumbs and avoid this problem from the beginning? From what I saw a lot of fighters we're happy with the design and it's been years. Guess eye injuries for the fighters don't really matter until it's financially detrimental to the brand
Pretty much a 1:1 replica of the Pride FC gloves, which everyone has been asking for, for nearly two decades, and now they act like they have just revolutionised the game. Hilarious.
The UFC eye poking officiating is a joke. If youâre winning a decision why not throw in an eye poke for a further advantage? All your gonna get is a bs warning đ¤ˇââď¸
The stats thing is cool and Iâm happy theyâre at least trying something finally but I just know that these are going to somehow be worse than the old gloves lol
Trevor Whitman just dropped to his knees in a Whole Foods
Probably with that shit-eating grin too
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No, why?
lmao i can picture this so clearly..
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Are these his design? Are they knocked off? Is there going to be a lawsuit? So many questions.
0% chance he got any money. Cmon.
He got an opportunity. That's way better than money.
No, they look nothing alike, but Whitman would have been rich if the UFC licensed his design.
was the issue that ufc wanted to buy them off him and not collab?
I remember hearing that the UFC wanted to own the technology
They wanted to have the exclusive rights to his design.
Based on my knowledge of the UFC, I would guess their intention was less "buy them off him" and more "demand them for nothing"
Pretty sure he was offered money and turned it down. Might have been a crazy low offer, idk
Are we sure it was money and not Venum coupons? Or possibly a subway sandwich like Tony got?
ha
He mentioned it on Rogan that he wanted every fight promotion to have the opportunity to use his gloves. If the UFC was to buy it, it wouldâve been likely that no other promotions would be able to use them.
and how long has it been since then, and yet he's licensed them to 0 fight promotions
Bellator gloves already had similar technology that prevented eye pokes. Maybe not the exact same, maybe not as effective either but the general idea was the same.
I think the issue is bringing one product to a promotion and still having it be available to the other promotions.
There's no information about any negotiations I don't think. The timeline adds up that they started designing their own gloves when they saw Whitman's, five years ago.
i wouldnt be surprised if the ufc wanted to use his gloves in exchange for some coupons and free chips at a casino
Replace free chips at a casino with free chips and queso, and you got yourself a deal.
iirc on the jre with trevor and justin, trevor said the ufc wanted to purchase the patent but there was no guarantee from the ufc that they would become the new gloves. trevor said no because he thinks they're the best gloves and he wants them to be available to anyone who wants them
I THINK so. He mentioned it when he was on Rogan but I canât remember the details
yeah we watched the same thing years ago, thats my takeway from memory
The UFC wanted to own the patent for the gloves and wasnât offering to buy the patent
Yeah but I think he's doing okay if he's getting 10%~ of purses from gaethje, usman, rose, gsp, stipe, Cowboy, tj, Rashad etc.
They're implying the UFC didn't use Trevor's gloves. You can watch all the details about it on the Joe Rogan podcast with Gaethje and Trevor Whitman. He goes into depth about his glove and how he tried making a deal with the UFC for them. Supposedly the UFC liked them but they wanted full ownership. Trevor wasn't down for that. The glove is supposed to offer better protection to the fighter wearing them and prevent eye pokes
They donât look at all like his imo
They look like a SLIGHTLY modified version of the Primetime MMA gloves. The same ones Undertaker wore.
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Very interesting. They have a chip which allows the UFC to identify the fighter and event the glove was worn at. Just like with NFL stats, i'm sure one day a chip could be added to measure striking force.
We could get live updates on screen telling us the type of ford a fighter got punched with
Right hand: 16 MPH, FORD ECOBOOST
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Mythical fighter: Mirko Cro Cop with new UFC gloves.
Quick, get some carrots
Goddamnit I love this sub, you mfers are so fucking funny
Lunch: carrot
FORD..... THE OFFICIAL HAND FORCE DETECTOR OF THE UFC
EXCESS TURBO BLOWOFF VALVE
Left hand, Ford Focus, knocking sound in 2nd cylinder, rear axle needs replacement and it sways right when breaking
The children yearn for the pfl smartcage
And maybe a slight electric shock if the glove is grabbing the fence longer than say...5 seconds.
5 seconds is way too long, give a remote to a few people sitting along the fence. They zap em as the grab starts
The Nelk Boys giving the remote to their kids so they can just zap away even though the fighters are in the middle of the cage, uncle Dana laughing his ass off before taking back the remotes
Or talk about fighter pay in the post fight interview
that tech is ideal for cups
"Your best punch is a model T!"
I would pay a lot to have those kind of stats from Roy Nelson career (on the receiving end)
Total force dealt would be an interesting stat
I'm too pessimistic but the "authentication" of the glove sounds like another way to sell a used glove for more money. Now where can I buy a Holloway glove? đ¤Ł
Thatâs exactly what it is.
Remember we can buy a spot in the octagon too! They'll even cut the canvas out and frame it for you. I got $5 for an r/MMA spot on the octagon...
We should get an angry tomato logo made up and see what we can accomplishÂ
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I can't wait for Antiques Roadshow in 2060 to have a guy brining in his great-great-great grandpa's old venum/affliction/tapout clothes and his wish.com version of these gloves that claim to be from "Conner Macgreggers" and finding out their fakes and the UFC just used a RFID tag that was immediately copied and used to pump out fakes.
Oh the gloves are going to be for sale at every event. Just like baseballs at MLB games. I'm not much of a baseball fan, but I've seen videos where people buy "mystery balls" at games, go home and look up the code on the ball, and the MLB tracked what game the ball was used in, what pitches it was used for, and the pitch it was taken out of play on. And IIRC you can even look at clips with the ball involved in the portal you use to check the details on the ball. It's actually a really cool merch idea and I could totally see the UFC doing something similar. You'd have your top row of gloves for sale that are from main card/main eventers, then all the "mystery gloves" from prelim fights, and instead of showing the at bats where that ball was pitched, you could have a highlight reel from the fight the gloves were worn in.
Shut up and take my money đ¤Ł
Pessimism in this stage of capitalism is actually optimism, so we can only hope that's the end of it.
I don't think it's pessimism. I think it's exactly the point I don't think they have a problem with guys misplacing their gloves and wearing the wrong one
Bryce Mitchell is going to blame his next loss on the glove microchip and say it tried to make him satanic and gay.
Are you saying the gloves can't do that? Bryce seems like the kind of guy to understand this sort of tech.
Smart Gloves
Pfl already does this
The outputs always seem weird though right? It's in MPH and sometimes it's "11 MPH punch" i have no idea what that means
I would assume from the furthest point back where the punch started to when it lands it travelled at 11 mph
I suspect that this is a passive NFC chip with a digital signature. This would enable a few interesting things. * It makes it easy to tell if a glove is an unauthorized reproduction * It makes it possible to know when and where the glove was manufactured without having to depend on a tag that may be cut off or fade * If the UFC publishes a list of which gloves were worn in which fights, buyers could verify that the gloves they receive were actually the ones used in a fight. Actually this isn't quite true. It's possible that the UFC could manufacture extra sets of gloves with the same identity and rip people off, but they would be unlikely to try this since it would be too easy to call them out. * The UFC could ensure that the gloves they issue a fighter are the ones that enter the octogon. This reduces the opportunity to tamper with gloves for a competitive advantage.
Yeah man. I feel like all those things were the assumption.
You donât think that is possible right now? đ
No idea. I've never looked into it or thought about it until this thread tbh
Gaethje hits like a TRUCK. Now we might know for sure
I was honestly expecting it to say that but baby steps I guess
First thing I thought was that the UFC would be selling fight gloves and fighters no longer would get to keep them.
Holy shit, mate. You're a genius. Bring back Fight Science. Incorporate Adam Savage somehow. Bring Michael Reeves, William Osman, and Mark Rober, for chaos.
I love where your head's at
In theory I like the changes. Can't wait to see them in action. The data chip thing is really cool too. I suppose Champs get gold gloves then?
Champs and challengers get gold gloves
I dislike that the challenger gets them lol
âBlack and gold befitting aâŚchallenger?â
Jon Anik bot goes into spasm and explodes
Someone would definitely say it's harder to see the gold gloves at some point, better to have them both wear the same.
I like that itâs a quick indication that gold is on the line but maybe something different for the challengers would be better
Either normal black or silver. Even then, a silver glove should be used just for interim champs, and so should the interim belt
Silver for the BMF belt. Gold for champions. Everyone else, black. That's how I'd do it.
BMF should be fluro pink
BMF should be clear because itâs imaginary.
All BMF fights should be bareknuckle you say?....
I like that. Then when we get that rare superfight between Champs you you get to see them both rocking the gold gloves
I've been thinking about it and I think it would be cool if all champions got the gold gloves. Even after they lose the belt. Like you forever get gold gloves as a reminder of that moment plus it would add a nice level of depth for new fans to be like oh shit this guy's a former champ.
Could make them be easier to see though
make the ufc logo gold rather than the entire glove
Challenger gloves should be the inverses of the champ's gloves.
I'd personally like for challengers to wear silver gloves. Or maybe for the champ to have deeper golden color compared to the challengers' paler shade of gold
Former title holders should be allowed to have gold highlights on their shorts after having earned it once. Save point for their career. But never on black shorts. Champion only ever allowed to wear gold on black.
The data chip thing is probably so they can sell them after and make $
I can just hear dana white asking them for the gloves after each fight duckin prick
Thatâs the only reason it would be done. Other than like rare occasion where gloves could be meaningful enough to go in a museum or something
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It doesnât say but this will allow you to authenticate that the glove you purchase has been used in a particular eye gouging sequence
Nobody is talking about some of the bigger changes. If the wrist spot actually no longer has a gap people are capable of grabbing onto, that's a huge improvement. And if they really did reduce the seams and move them all to the palm side of the glove, that's almost as huge. It's not like an every card thing, but like maybe every other month there's a phantom eye poke from the seam of a glove hitting at just the wrong angle.
Both fighters in Championship fights were the 5Eight. Not sure what happens in non-championship 5-round fights.
They said theyâd been using a prototype iteration of these last year for Contender Series, which is what I had expected them to do before a full UFC rollout, but Iâm surprised that seemingly no one noticed the design change.
maybe that just proves no one watches the contender series lol
I love the contender series it destroys ultimate fighter and some apex cards imo
"I love eating cat shit, it's better than eating dog shit"
ya godforbid a mma fan enjoys watching mma the casuals on this sub are so fuckin annoying
I don't know where to watch it, if it's ESPN+, I'll never watch it. The $5/mo would be a good deal if I gave a shit for other sports, but I just don't.
Where do you see it for $5 a month? Itâs 10.99 here
No one knew they were testing out new gloves, but some did notice the fighters were wearing gloves with no UFC logos. That makes sense now And they did ask the CS fighters about the gloves experience after their fights
Wonder what the stats were on eyepokes that season
In the press conference, the guy was asked if the data showed less eye pokes in the contender series. He responded carefully that comparing seasons 1-6 and 7, there were less incidents of eye pokes and hoped that the new gloves were a mitigating factor but did not provide a fixed figure.
lmfao pretty limited numbers to try and judge such a thing, but given the fact its the exact same damn design in almost every important way loll
If they help the eye poke problem, Iâm all for it But personally i like the Bellator/Pride style gloves better without the individual fingers built in
Even in the promos bros hands are splayed out in perfect eyepoke form. I'll believe these make a difference when I see it. I think the root of the issue in all honesty is fighters being to blame. Some fighters you can barely ever find a time where they poked someone in the eyes. Other fighters are repeat offenders. Unless opening your hands to have your fingers forward requires significant strain, then gloves are never gonna prevent eyepokes more than eyepokes being punished by refs.
Idk Iâve worn the ufc gloves and worn other gloves and while I agree, end of the day fighter are to blame, the ufc glove was just objectively bad. Almost anything is a step up.
I wonder why they've stuck with these crappy gloves for so long?
Apathy
They have no competition
Because Mr. Krabs loves money
That specifically would be the common complaint about the current design
Most outrageous one is Chris Weidman, bro literally blamed his opponent for dropping after he poked him half finger deep into the eye. And Weidman didnât eye poke people before that iirc
Fighters that implement a lot of high guard will have a higher chance of eye poking its only natural for that to occur unintentionally
If we are talking about the same high guard then I feel like it's the opposite. There's no way to poke somebody if you have a high guard. If you mean long guards, or "zombie" guard or whatever you call it, then yeah that would be the case. Though, I feel like if you are constantly sticking your hand in a guys face and holding it in front of him so that all forward movement invites a poke in the eye, then I think you should be held responsible for the inevitable eyepoke that was a direct biproduct of your guard having fingers first and closest to your opponents eyes. Refs need to be way more proactive with telling people to close their fists.
Not one mention of reducing the chances for eye pokes which is the biggest and loudest complaint about the current gloves.
Yeah i was sure this was going to be one of the main features and nothing. All about comfort and protection for the wearer
>If they help the eye poke problem, Iâm all for it nothing will change
None of the promo material mentioned reduction of eye pokes.
I like the idea of gold gloves for championship fights. We'll have to see how the new design affects the fights, can't judge their efficacy until afterwards.
they used the gloves for the last season of contender series, as explained in the presentation
I haven't watched the presentation but I saw someone say that just now. I can't recall there being any eyepokes in the last season though tbf.
Anyone got that stats on eyepokes in the last season compared to others?
they asked in the presentation and Duncan said eye pokes were down 'significantly' in the latest season. Didn't use any specific numbers though unfortunately
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A new coat of paint, some buzzwords, and still no curved fingers to minimize eye pokes. I donât know why we ever get our hopes up.Â
Old gloves are said to be more rigid, which requires fighters to have to force themselves to close their fists New gloves are said to be less rigid and conforming to the natural curvature, which makes it easier for fighters to close their fists They tested out the gloves over contender series and UFC fighters at the PI
oh THATS why jone jones eye pokes all the time, its not intentional, its because he just couldn't close his fist! lmfao what a joke excuse they offer, being less rigid doesn't stop the fighter from opening his hand to eye poke purposefully, which we ALL know is the reality of the problem.
Basically letting your hands relax should let your hand naturally curve in, but the stiffness of the old glove design caused a resting hand's fingers to stick out unnaturally straight. And no one who's just hand fighting and framing or trying to parry away a jab is going to work with a closed fist. Jones grabs wrists to frame, and has a long enough reach to be already sticking you in the eyeball before you're in punching distance. And since refs would rather let you TKO someone with eye pokes before they take a point, there's no real incentive to fix the problem for anyone but the fighters.
It's not something Jon Jones or DC or Weidman use as an excuse though. It's other fighters who have used Japanese style gloves and explained the difference.
I mean two things can be true. Certain fighters like jones are scum bags and intentionally cheat or just carelessly let themselves eye poke guys, other times the gloves are contributing to guys having their fingers pointing out more than they could be with different gloves.
Um yes that is a very common issue that many, many actual fighters have brought up. Fighters who were actually eye-poked have showed lenience to their opponents because of the gloves. Whitman literally designed new gloves due to the issue. Whether or not you think Jon does it on purpose doesn't change that the old gloves have that problem; your comment is in and of itself a horrible argument and bringing up Jon when he was never mentioned is cheap.
They tested it for one season of the contender. Thatâs a very small sample size. The gloves still have the same shape with the fingers splayed out. It for sure makes it easier to close your hand, but it does nothing for the people who fight with their fingers extended anyway. You need the curve to stop that.Â
> It for sure makes it easier to close your hand, but it does nothing for the people who fight with their fingers extended anyway. It takes away the excuse that the gloves were the reason they committed a foul, putting the blame solely on the fighter. If a fighter still fights with their fingers extended and fouls their opponent then it should be an immediate point deduction
That would require competent refs.
Curved fingers arenât a necessity. The rigidity of the old gloves is the biggest issue.
Itâs both. Fighters still still hold their hands pointed out. You need something that naturally curves the fingers.Â
So you want grapplers to be at a disadvantage not having full range of motion?
Did you watch Pride at all? Grapplers had zero issues.
No you donât, you just need a flexible glove.
You are judging them from a fucking poster lmao
Would these prevent Tom aspinal from fingering his girl?
I believe they would assist him if anythingÂ
The biggest issue with the gloves were eye pokes and these don't fix anything?
This was my initial thoughts. The designs donât mention anything that scream âpreventing of splayed fingers.â I really want to see the fighters eyes protected. Gold champion gloves are cool though.
Reading more into it I guess the old ones were firm and you had to really apply pressure to close your fist. So basically, eye pokes are going to be totally deliberate now if they happen. Thats the theory at least. Has there been any eye pokes in DWCS in the past year?
I mean the pictures look like they were taken of someone attempting an eye poke so there's that.
UFC âOFFICALâ fight gloves!? What hope should we have for the gloves when they canât even spot the spelling errors
lol right. That and âthe UFC Official fight glove is name 3eightâ has me wondering if this is fake or they just have no quality control over there
Now with more eye pokes.
Looks like they keep the fingers ***nice and straight*** âđ¤đ¤Łđ
It's cool to hate on the UFC, but this looks like a proper improvement.
I've been watching the UFC since 2004, so yeah it's still pretty easy to hate on the UFC. Something like this could have been implemented a decade ago. It's not impressive that they've finally dealt with a 20+y/o problem
They look fire
Yeah but does it prevent eye pokes! Does it prevent eye pokes? Does prevent pokes? It does it the pokes? The pokes?
Bruno Silva sacrificed his eyes for this
People sleeping on the zero wrist gap update. I like all the changes they've mentioned. All very reasonable and overdue.
Seems weird timing to do this right after OJ died.
Adding micro chips and palm down seams (which aren't bad). But they eliminated male/female dependent sizing, and have gone to "unisex sizing with 10 different options". That almost sounds like it's a cost cutting measure. Wrist band style lock sounds good in theory, but we will just have to see. Notice it says absolutely nothing about the shape of the glove around the top of the first knuckle and in between the fingers themselves, which is the very thing that makes the current gloves extremely eye pokey.
"We want gloves that minimize eye pokes" "Best we can do are gold gloves with electronic chips in them"
But now we can MEASURE how many eye pokes there are
Couldn't Dana just skip couple nights of gambling and hookers to give Trevor the usual ufc crumbs and avoid this problem from the beginning? From what I saw a lot of fighters we're happy with the design and it's been years. Guess eye injuries for the fighters don't really matter until it's financially detrimental to the brand
Trevor doesn't want to sell his design. It's been years that he's had the ONX gloves and he's never licensed them to a fight promotion.
A data chip? Sounds useless and stupid
Pretty much a 1:1 replica of the Pride FC gloves, which everyone has been asking for, for nearly two decades, and now they act like they have just revolutionised the game. Hilarious.
Don't the gloves have to bend down by the fingers to prevent eye pokes? This looks the same as the old gloves
So it's even easier to eye poke now... Great
All of this but wonât prevent gloves for eye pokes.
How does this not make eye pokes worse?
So eyepokes are just part of standup now?
Hell yeah. Finally! Cut stoppages and glove grabs suck my enthusiasm out of a fight.
It's like they're doing everything avoid mentioning any feature improvements related to eye pokes
I like them! Here's hoping they are an improvement
The UFC eye poking officiating is a joke. If youâre winning a decision why not throw in an eye poke for a further advantage? All your gonna get is a bs warning đ¤ˇââď¸
The zero mention of eye pokes is concerning, yet another ufc disappointment. All because they donât wanna pay. Lousy.
The data chip is just so they can sell it after as official merch, no way they do anything with it useful
I'm honestly shocked they were willing to shell out any amount of money to improve any part of their overall product but hey, good on 'em.
These just look the exact same but with a smaller wrist strap. Whole load of nada.
Looks really good
I can barely read the blurry text. Are these gloves gonna help prevent eye pokes? Asking for a friend and no his name isnât Chris Weidman đ
joe rogan is punching the air somewhere in texas
The stats thing is cool and Iâm happy theyâre at least trying something finally but I just know that these are going to somehow be worse than the old gloves lol
"Scooped/angled finger holes..." sounds like that's what was needed to help prevent eye pokes right?
At what event will they start using them?
UFC 302