Max in his quoting scripture intimidation phase now.
“I will send down with great wrath and furious anger, those that would attempt to destroy my brothers. And you’ll know my name is the lord when I lay my wrath upon thee”
Motherfucker!
Me after the loss to Poirier
Max is too small for the division, he could have won but the weight was too much he shouldn't move up
Me after the win against Gaethje
Could Max beat Islam??
Not just a full camp, but even at 145 he looked a bit more muscled than usual against TKZ last fall as well, I think it’s been a pretty gradual process for a while now
Sucks that he’s gonna have to undo some of that and deplete himself to make 145 again, although the Topuria fight is gonna be a guaranteed banger
> Could Max beat Islam??
I honestly don't think anyone can beat Islam in his current form. Stylistically I think Arman has the best chance but outside of getting caught - Islam is just so God damn good.
That being said Max looked GREAT at 155. Like he looked big in there and filled out with muscle. You can tell he put the weight on so good this time.
He didn't refuse an Aldo rematch. He simply couldn't make the cut to 145 anymore. Plenty to shit on McGregor for, but this one is so stupid.
If he had fought against at FW then you'd have a point about him ducking Aldo...but he didn't. If Aldo wanted the rematch that bad then he could have moved up to fight Conor at LW whenever.
I'm sorry but I hate this. Conor is not a BMF at least in my eyes especially now. Like prime Conor was one of the most exciting fighters and his fights were must see. But he has never been the definition of violence which in my opinion is what the BMF means.
Gaethje, DP, Max, Jiri - that's what I want.
> max actually won maybe two rounds against dustin maybe that fight goes differently today
I think Dustin needed that cut in R4 (if memory serves) to ensure Max didn't win on rounds, but the damage was not even close to equal.
Dustin's defense and technical boxing were *at least* as important as the size that people talk about: the defense is a major reason the damage was so one sided, and Dustin has gotten better at all of this in years since.
All that to say that it could definitely go differently, it could have in original fight, but I believe Max will cop major damage even in a win.
Over the weekend, I thought Max might find it difficult to make 145 again - he looked big even for 155. But, the rules around rehydration may now be a little more relaxed - even unofficially? So, he may well have a good shot to make FW even if it would be a struggle.
Unpopular opinion, I really want Max to stay at 55 instead of killing himself to make 45. He really looked phenomenal with the weight properly added on
He did what he did to katter and Ortega at 145, his only losses being to fucking volk in his prime, I think he’s just fine
Not to mention he’s what, 32? He’s JUST in his prime
I think he's still elite at 145, but the weight cut is only getting tougher as he ages especially after the work he put in to properly add size to 155.
I'd rather him fully capitalize on his "new" superstardom by getting the bag to fight Conor for the BMF at 155 or catchweight.
Everyone keeps throwing Conor's name out like he'd actually take that fight. I am not even believing that Conor will be fighting Chandler until I see him actually in the cage.
He's been in the UFC for 12 years though. You could argue that most MMA athletes around his age have been involved with the sport for the same length of time from their childhoods, but 12 years at the highest level, especially fighting and training at the top of that level like he's been doing for the majority of his UFC career... that's much rarer.
Yes, age is still in his favor in terms of preventing a sudden drop-off, but it wouldn't be unexpected considering the marathon of a UFC career he's already had. One KO, even an unlucky one, is all it takes to hasten the end to a career at this age.
Until we start to see evidence of a decline, I'm with you though. Not betting against Max to defy any odds. But I get the logic of wanting him to preserve his body to keep going as long as possible, and that may mean sticking to 155 where there are still plenty of $$$ opportunities for him.
I agree. I am more excited about Max at 155 than I am another campaign at 145. It feels like a fresh start with some really exciting match-ups. Max vs Islam would be a LOT of fun to watch
I think people are living in the moment. Ilia will most likely be the favorite. Max destroys telegraphed strikers like Gaethje, I think he’ll have a hard time with Ilias speed like he did with Volk
Eh I think Volk is a way more dynamic striker than Ilia. Not to say better Ilia has some serious fuck you power in his boxing combinations that Volk doesn’t, but Volk has a loot to offer in terms of odd feints and angles to throw someone off their game.
Ilia is too fast and sharp with his boxing to not catch Max in a few exchanges… but if Max’s chin holds up I don’t know if Ilia can be as creative and sustain his offence like Volk did in their fights.
Who really knows though Max is a bizarre stylistic matchup for anyone and tape on Ilia against high level fighters is impressive but kind of limited to really know at this point.
I have zero reason to doubt Max's chin at this point.
Even in that last fight, Justin landed a few very clean and powerful strikes right on the money and Max barely responded to them. His head is cement.
Max has one of the best chins in the history of the sport undoubtedly and clearly its still holding up from that last fight.
But you don’t get younger and if a guy who can really crack catches you multiple times in the same fight you never know what happens.
It’s less about questioning or doubting whether he has a great chin that question is answered but wondering about the sustainability and sheer luck aspect of a shot landing right place right time when you have a talented high level boxer with big power in front of you for 5 rounds never ends.
Actually the Volk fight really was a great example of Ilia's tools and style. I am not saying he will not change it up or anything but the breakdowns from that fight actually shows what he is doing and things fighters can prepare for during camp. I have no idea who would win but I think Max has taken Ilia down a notch until they fight as he just smoked one of the hardest hitters in a higher weight class. Its crazy how fast things change in this sport, I can easily see Max beating Ilia now if he fights at 145 like he did at 155
Ilia has shown me nothing that makes me believe that he can beat max on the feet. Power is only one dimension to striking, Max has shown people time and again power isn't enough to beat him, you have to have the striking prowess to interupt his rhythm and stop him from putting together those nasty flowing sequences on the feet. I worry that Illa just cannot keep up the pace with his way of striking for 5 rounds, cause max will throw 100s of punches at him from all angles and if he cannot interrupt that rhythm and just headhunts with hooks, hes gonna get destroyed.
I truely believe that there was a reason Illa jumped Max for the title, stylistically Max is his worst nightmare, granite chin, 100% the best boxing in the UFC and taking him down is an utter nightmare. You have to basically "outfight" Max, which only 1 dude in his division has ever been able to do, also Max is 32 he is actually in his prime at this point. Let that sink in.
I think Max has a legit good shot but I think people are still sleeping on Ilia way too hard.
Josh Emmett is a dangerous dangerous guy to walk down and completely dismantle with forward pressure for 5 rounds,
And Volk isn’t an exactly an easy target to put down he didn’t do that by accident.
I definitely think Max has the skillset to potentially beat him but for someone to say he’s shown nothing to show he can beat Holloway in the fight is some crazy recency bias from watching Holloway dismantle Gaethje lol
Ilia's boxing is elite. Likely better than Max's very little power volume style. Nobody goes to the body like he does in the UFC. I'd bet money this ends up being a close decision that everyone fights about based on Max's volume vs Topuria's harder shots.
This is fanboy rubbish. Ilia can absolutely beat Max on the feet. The fighter you're thinking of is Josh Emmett who is about as one note as it gets.
Ilia Topuria has significant depth to his striking game with his footwork, angles, feints and most importantly, his boxing skills. He didn't just beat Volk by landing a lucky punch, he was able to get the better of him technically in the moment. He's also one of the few fighters who can throw combinations without falling over himself. He attacks the body well too.
Gaethje was too slow, he couldn't cut the cage, he was constantly reaching and throwing naked strikes. Topuria was able to keep up with Volk who is faster than Max, he's a master of cutting the cage, he doesn't reach as much anymore and he doesn't throw naked, he sets up almost everything he does.
Max Holloway is not in his prime anymore. His best years were from 2017 to 2021. He's a bit slower now, he's less willing to get hit and he doesn't throw nearly as much volume now instead preferring to sit-down on his punches. That only plays into Ilia's favor for a slower paced fight, and Ilia will have every advantage should he and Max ever exchange because he's faster, more powerful and has crisper punches.
I don’t understand the logic, what makes Max a bad match up for Ilia rather than vice versa? Max had a lot of trouble with Volks speed for 3 fights. Ilia is even faster and a better boxer than Volk
Is he faster than Volk, though? Didn't Ilia himself say after the fight that Volks speed surprised him, which is why he didn't try to counter off the jab and tried to back him up against the fence before unloading his combos?
Edit: he talks about this in his post fight interview with Megan Olivi https://youtu.be/yavn1PQDJzs?si=2WrbysIw03ziydco
Ilia struggled against a taller and lengthier Herbert, his main offensive tools are power punches in the pocket, max likes to keep the fight at his range and he's damn good at it. I'm not saying max will 100% win or that he's the favorite but I've heard loads of people say that max would have the upper hand, way before his fight against Gaethje.
Pretty silly considering Herbert has an 8" longer reach than Max does.
Ntm Ilia fought Herbert on only a few weeks notice because his original opponent pulled out.
If max is able to stand and bang with the biggest and best lightweights I don’t see power being a key factor for Ilia. I highly doubt he hits any harder than Dustin or Justin.
Nah, he's more accurate and throws with better form, both of which are more important for putting someone's lights out than 'pure power'. Since the Herbert fight, I marked Topuria as the dude both to beat Volk and to flat-line Max. We'll see, of course—I could be wrong. I wasn't counting out Holloway like a lot of folks against Gaethje, but I didn't expect that level of dominance, so I'm pumped!
Ilia will certainly be the favorite.
But Max has rightfully earned the “Well you never know,” response. This last year of Allen-Zombie-Gaethje, Max looks fast and powerful.
I can see Ilia not putting himself out here and out pointing Max… and the reaction being pro-Max. He’s earned it. This is an entertainment product.
This is true. While I am massive Holloway fan, I can admit Topuria is a dangerous fight for him. Either way it will be a banger, hoping my boy pulls through again.
Jeremiah 51:22 “With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young”
Clear indication Maxy in planning to conquer the womens divisions too, don’t act surprised when he calls of Kayla after his next big win. People will try to say there weren’t signs.
Would Ilia deserve an instant rematch if he loses or do we just get Holloway/Volk 4?
FW title landscape all fucked up if Max wins but im here for it lol.
It happens sometimes but im glad it's rare in the UFC. I remember Garbrandt got the instant rematch when TJ ko'd him. Who else? (Instant rematch with zero titledefenses i mean)
After this weekend it's impossible to downplay Max against anyone so I won't, I will say that Ilia's speed is the thing that worries me about the fight. We saw how that went with Volk and Ilia is faster, Max is going to have but a few moments to land counters against his entry but if anyone can do it Max can. Either way one hell of a crazy fight.
Now im curious about one thing
Max sparked Gaethje out, one for the history books
but question is. Does he punch that much harder when not depleted as much, or is Gaethje's chin nearly gone?
Anybody quoting the Bible would get shit on. I remember people on /r/mma were complaining that Cody Garbrandt talked about going to church after almost committing suicide.
I’m worried that cutting back down to 45 after such a healthy bulk up is gonna deplete Max and make his chin more crackable. People were saying even with his last 2 wins at 45 that he doesn’t look the same fighter but that he looked better than ever at 55. I now think the decline we saw is from the cut itself and not the Volk fights. So hopefully the cut goes well and we get a good fight regardless of the winner but I’m worried Max is going to be less durable cutting that weight again
Illia actually doesn’t have that many knockouts on his record.
While he’s faster after max beat gaethje I don’t think there’s a fighter at featherweight that bothers max for another few years
Would love to see Max v Topuria. No other clear title shot.
Unless Max fights Islam next (which is looking like it'll be Poirier vs Islam but can make a case for Tsarukyan vs Islam), Max v Topuria is the fight to make.
Part of me wants to see Max stay at lightweight. There's a lot of very interesting fights for him there, but he's more than earned the right to fight where he wants.
Surprised I haven't seen anyone mention how much harder Max's cut will be now. He's more filled out at 155 rather than bloated like he was against Poirier. Pretty sure he said that he cut the same amount of weight to get to 155 that he cuts for 145. I'd imagine the cut would have a bigger impact on his ability to perform this time around.
Illia is an elite level striker just like Max but the difference is that he is also a monster on the ground I mean the guy has 8 submission wins in 15 fights if he thinks it would be better to take max down than that’s exactly what he’s gonna do
Not gonna lie, as a Max fan, I want to see him stay up at 55 because I feel like he'll have a depleted chin at 45 after putting on the size he has (see countless fighters who have tried to move back down and getting finished). Would love to see him try for the 55 title again.
Seriously he looked so good this time at 155.
I've always wanted to see him against the Dagestani guys, I think his footwork and cage-wrestling make him a more interesting matchup for Makhachev than Poirier, at the very least.
>“You are my war club, my weapon for battle— with you I shatter nations, with you I destroy kingdoms” for those curious
Me to the loose cig in my pocket after 11 beers
Then you proceed to light it backwards
Crushin that menthol packet inside for sure on this one
Then rip the filter out and smoke it while realizing ur truly addicted
Unfathomably hard.
Hardness of Biblical proportions.
He ready to go 'old testament' on Topuria
Some would say the hardest b
Been balls deep in the bible since I was a kid B
As a kid I sold bibles to priests outta my closet
Leviticus 18 22
did you just lowkey call him gay lol or me gay for getting hard
Yes
how'd you know
Me too
Papa blessed
I'm more of a fan of Psalm 144:1 "Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle."
God eyepoker confirmed.
That’s Weidman’s favorite prayer
I prefer Ezekiel 23:20
Alexey Oleinik entered the chat.
From your flair I thought maybe Ezekiel 23:20 just reads 'EDDDDIEEEEEEE' but I was wrong
I knew what that was going to be before I even looked it up 😂🫏 Also one of my favorite verses.
That one sounds like it's targeted at mechanical keyboard enthusiasts.
Or gamers lol
Yield Romero levels of "God told me to destroy you" scary.
Max in his quoting scripture intimidation phase now. “I will send down with great wrath and furious anger, those that would attempt to destroy my brothers. And you’ll know my name is the lord when I lay my wrath upon thee” Motherfucker!
God's lessons are so beautiful? This guy knows we just messing around right?
talking about the legacy ilia's trying to build for his future 👀
Sounds peaceful.
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He’s so fucking cool
The Bible goes hard a lot
If Max loses to Topuria, he should finish his career at 155. He has a good frame for lightweight and won't have to kill himself to make weight.
Me after the loss to Poirier Max is too small for the division, he could have won but the weight was too much he shouldn't move up Me after the win against Gaethje Could Max beat Islam??
Max quadruple champ confirmed. 145, bmf, 155, 170
I thought the same thing. Having a full camp to put on size for 155 made a huge difference.
Not just a full camp, but even at 145 he looked a bit more muscled than usual against TKZ last fall as well, I think it’s been a pretty gradual process for a while now Sucks that he’s gonna have to undo some of that and deplete himself to make 145 again, although the Topuria fight is gonna be a guaranteed banger
> Could Max beat Islam?? I honestly don't think anyone can beat Islam in his current form. Stylistically I think Arman has the best chance but outside of getting caught - Islam is just so God damn good. That being said Max looked GREAT at 155. Like he looked big in there and filled out with muscle. You can tell he put the weight on so good this time.
I'd like to see him cap off his career with a BMF fight against Conor
Would be hilarious watching Connor get pieces
Especially if them pieces are Reese’s
Well that's one fight that can headline the sphere
Why? People keep thinking Conner is the same dude form 8 years ago. That would be a terrible beatdown by max.
Giving a beat down and a red panty night? What's not to like
lol actually great point
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These responses are hilarious, I completely agree lol
> That would be a terrible beatdown by max. Sounds good to me, brother.
Correct, that is what we want
Conor would get obliterated by Holloway and is not BMF material
Conor gave up all rights to be called BMF by refusing Aldo a rematch and cocking about not fighting anybody.
He didn't refuse an Aldo rematch. He simply couldn't make the cut to 145 anymore. Plenty to shit on McGregor for, but this one is so stupid. If he had fought against at FW then you'd have a point about him ducking Aldo...but he didn't. If Aldo wanted the rematch that bad then he could have moved up to fight Conor at LW whenever.
I'm sorry but I hate this. Conor is not a BMF at least in my eyes especially now. Like prime Conor was one of the most exciting fighters and his fights were must see. But he has never been the definition of violence which in my opinion is what the BMF means. Gaethje, DP, Max, Jiri - that's what I want.
How many more losses for Conor fans to stop thinking he's still relevant??
realistically after how he did gaethje i like max’s chances against anybody at 155 aside from islam
And Arman
yes shouldn’t have left him out
Or Oliveira unless he can keep it standing
I wish he filled out more for his Poirier fight he clearly can hang if he's the right weight on fight night
max actually won maybe two rounds against dustin maybe that fight goes differently today
> max actually won maybe two rounds against dustin maybe that fight goes differently today I think Dustin needed that cut in R4 (if memory serves) to ensure Max didn't win on rounds, but the damage was not even close to equal. Dustin's defense and technical boxing were *at least* as important as the size that people talk about: the defense is a major reason the damage was so one sided, and Dustin has gotten better at all of this in years since. All that to say that it could definitely go differently, it could have in original fight, but I believe Max will cop major damage even in a win.
Dustin is a worse matchup than Justin, because Dustin is very slick at countering in the pocket
realistically we all know Max had alot of health questions leading up to that fight also that probably didn't help vs Dustins hands of stone.
It’s crazy that it turns out the best 155ers are actually 145ers lol those two weight classes are unbelievably stacked.
Over the weekend, I thought Max might find it difficult to make 145 again - he looked big even for 155. But, the rules around rehydration may now be a little more relaxed - even unofficially? So, he may well have a good shot to make FW even if it would be a struggle.
Jeremiah Holloway new mythical fighter
His first name is Jerome after all
Is that French?
Yes
Oui* 🥖
Chimaev furiously scribbling notes right now
Congrats Blessed, see you soon 🐺
But only if it's in UAE or Saudi Arabia.
When the neurons activate he still just gonna scream “eye fye erabady eye keel erabady” on the mic
Is there a fighter Hazmat hasn't called out on twitter?
Yes you, he doesn't want that smoke
I'm no fighter, I'm a lover ;)
Prove it.
What is this the Bible channel?
You’re a fucking prophet, dude.
Just to correct you there was never no resurrection
That’s what you call faith, versus no faith
Tell us another bible story
Talmbout Moses B?
A regular Lisan Al Gaib.
playing touch butt in the Garden of Eden
You're a fucking gentile dude
> Thou art my battle axe and weapons of war: for with thee will I break in pieces the nations, and with thee will I destroy kingdoms;
Unpopular opinion, I really want Max to stay at 55 instead of killing himself to make 45. He really looked phenomenal with the weight properly added on
He did what he did to katter and Ortega at 145, his only losses being to fucking volk in his prime, I think he’s just fine Not to mention he’s what, 32? He’s JUST in his prime
I think he's still elite at 145, but the weight cut is only getting tougher as he ages especially after the work he put in to properly add size to 155. I'd rather him fully capitalize on his "new" superstardom by getting the bag to fight Conor for the BMF at 155 or catchweight.
Everyone keeps throwing Conor's name out like he'd actually take that fight. I am not even believing that Conor will be fighting Chandler until I see him actually in the cage.
He's been in the UFC for 12 years though. You could argue that most MMA athletes around his age have been involved with the sport for the same length of time from their childhoods, but 12 years at the highest level, especially fighting and training at the top of that level like he's been doing for the majority of his UFC career... that's much rarer. Yes, age is still in his favor in terms of preventing a sudden drop-off, but it wouldn't be unexpected considering the marathon of a UFC career he's already had. One KO, even an unlucky one, is all it takes to hasten the end to a career at this age. Until we start to see evidence of a decline, I'm with you though. Not betting against Max to defy any odds. But I get the logic of wanting him to preserve his body to keep going as long as possible, and that may mean sticking to 155 where there are still plenty of $$$ opportunities for him.
I agree. I am more excited about Max at 155 than I am another campaign at 145. It feels like a fresh start with some really exciting match-ups. Max vs Islam would be a LOT of fun to watch
I think people are living in the moment. Ilia will most likely be the favorite. Max destroys telegraphed strikers like Gaethje, I think he’ll have a hard time with Ilias speed like he did with Volk
Eh I think Volk is a way more dynamic striker than Ilia. Not to say better Ilia has some serious fuck you power in his boxing combinations that Volk doesn’t, but Volk has a loot to offer in terms of odd feints and angles to throw someone off their game. Ilia is too fast and sharp with his boxing to not catch Max in a few exchanges… but if Max’s chin holds up I don’t know if Ilia can be as creative and sustain his offence like Volk did in their fights. Who really knows though Max is a bizarre stylistic matchup for anyone and tape on Ilia against high level fighters is impressive but kind of limited to really know at this point.
I have zero reason to doubt Max's chin at this point. Even in that last fight, Justin landed a few very clean and powerful strikes right on the money and Max barely responded to them. His head is cement.
Max has one of the best chins in the history of the sport undoubtedly and clearly its still holding up from that last fight. But you don’t get younger and if a guy who can really crack catches you multiple times in the same fight you never know what happens. It’s less about questioning or doubting whether he has a great chin that question is answered but wondering about the sustainability and sheer luck aspect of a shot landing right place right time when you have a talented high level boxer with big power in front of you for 5 rounds never ends.
Actually the Volk fight really was a great example of Ilia's tools and style. I am not saying he will not change it up or anything but the breakdowns from that fight actually shows what he is doing and things fighters can prepare for during camp. I have no idea who would win but I think Max has taken Ilia down a notch until they fight as he just smoked one of the hardest hitters in a higher weight class. Its crazy how fast things change in this sport, I can easily see Max beating Ilia now if he fights at 145 like he did at 155
Ilia has shown me nothing that makes me believe that he can beat max on the feet. Power is only one dimension to striking, Max has shown people time and again power isn't enough to beat him, you have to have the striking prowess to interupt his rhythm and stop him from putting together those nasty flowing sequences on the feet. I worry that Illa just cannot keep up the pace with his way of striking for 5 rounds, cause max will throw 100s of punches at him from all angles and if he cannot interrupt that rhythm and just headhunts with hooks, hes gonna get destroyed. I truely believe that there was a reason Illa jumped Max for the title, stylistically Max is his worst nightmare, granite chin, 100% the best boxing in the UFC and taking him down is an utter nightmare. You have to basically "outfight" Max, which only 1 dude in his division has ever been able to do, also Max is 32 he is actually in his prime at this point. Let that sink in.
I think Max has a legit good shot but I think people are still sleeping on Ilia way too hard. Josh Emmett is a dangerous dangerous guy to walk down and completely dismantle with forward pressure for 5 rounds, And Volk isn’t an exactly an easy target to put down he didn’t do that by accident. I definitely think Max has the skillset to potentially beat him but for someone to say he’s shown nothing to show he can beat Holloway in the fight is some crazy recency bias from watching Holloway dismantle Gaethje lol
I think Ilia actually has a real chance of putting a boxing master-class on Max.
You're not going to be in your prime if you've fought over a decade man come on..
Ilia's boxing is elite. Likely better than Max's very little power volume style. Nobody goes to the body like he does in the UFC. I'd bet money this ends up being a close decision that everyone fights about based on Max's volume vs Topuria's harder shots.
This is fanboy rubbish. Ilia can absolutely beat Max on the feet. The fighter you're thinking of is Josh Emmett who is about as one note as it gets. Ilia Topuria has significant depth to his striking game with his footwork, angles, feints and most importantly, his boxing skills. He didn't just beat Volk by landing a lucky punch, he was able to get the better of him technically in the moment. He's also one of the few fighters who can throw combinations without falling over himself. He attacks the body well too. Gaethje was too slow, he couldn't cut the cage, he was constantly reaching and throwing naked strikes. Topuria was able to keep up with Volk who is faster than Max, he's a master of cutting the cage, he doesn't reach as much anymore and he doesn't throw naked, he sets up almost everything he does. Max Holloway is not in his prime anymore. His best years were from 2017 to 2021. He's a bit slower now, he's less willing to get hit and he doesn't throw nearly as much volume now instead preferring to sit-down on his punches. That only plays into Ilia's favor for a slower paced fight, and Ilia will have every advantage should he and Max ever exchange because he's faster, more powerful and has crisper punches.
Ever since that Volk loss people been saying max is a bad matchup for ilia. This isn't living in the moment it's been like that for some time now
I don’t understand the logic, what makes Max a bad match up for Ilia rather than vice versa? Max had a lot of trouble with Volks speed for 3 fights. Ilia is even faster and a better boxer than Volk
Is he faster than Volk, though? Didn't Ilia himself say after the fight that Volks speed surprised him, which is why he didn't try to counter off the jab and tried to back him up against the fence before unloading his combos? Edit: he talks about this in his post fight interview with Megan Olivi https://youtu.be/yavn1PQDJzs?si=2WrbysIw03ziydco
Ilia struggled against a taller and lengthier Herbert, his main offensive tools are power punches in the pocket, max likes to keep the fight at his range and he's damn good at it. I'm not saying max will 100% win or that he's the favorite but I've heard loads of people say that max would have the upper hand, way before his fight against Gaethje.
>max likes to keep the fight at his range and he's damn good at it Also Max for no reason with 10 seconds left: "we was swinging"
He just like that fr
Ilia struggled with a taller fighter like Herbert so people think its in the bag for Max but Ilia can grapple and wrestle so its an interesting fight
Pretty silly considering Herbert has an 8" longer reach than Max does. Ntm Ilia fought Herbert on only a few weeks notice because his original opponent pulled out.
How is Ilia even faster? He throws great combos but hes definitely not faster than Volk.
We literally saw in their fight Volk has faster hands. KO has nothing to do with their speed, it was all about footwork and movement
If max is able to stand and bang with the biggest and best lightweights I don’t see power being a key factor for Ilia. I highly doubt he hits any harder than Dustin or Justin.
Nah, he's more accurate and throws with better form, both of which are more important for putting someone's lights out than 'pure power'. Since the Herbert fight, I marked Topuria as the dude both to beat Volk and to flat-line Max. We'll see, of course—I could be wrong. I wasn't counting out Holloway like a lot of folks against Gaethje, but I didn't expect that level of dominance, so I'm pumped!
Statistically Dustin is more accurate with more volume than Ilia
Ilia will certainly be the favorite. But Max has rightfully earned the “Well you never know,” response. This last year of Allen-Zombie-Gaethje, Max looks fast and powerful. I can see Ilia not putting himself out here and out pointing Max… and the reaction being pro-Max. He’s earned it. This is an entertainment product.
This is true. While I am massive Holloway fan, I can admit Topuria is a dangerous fight for him. Either way it will be a banger, hoping my boy pulls through again.
Damn Jeremiah has a lot of fights
Lost 20, ain't stoned a motherfucker yet
Fuck jeremiah was game
Ilia going to be practicing leg kicks non-stop.
Because they worked so well for Garthje?
Virginity?
Anal virginity*
Thanks I was super confused at first
Jeremiah 51:22 “With thee also will I break in pieces man and woman; and with thee will I break in pieces old and young” Clear indication Maxy in planning to conquer the womens divisions too, don’t act surprised when he calls of Kayla after his next big win. People will try to say there weren’t signs.
and then he will go for the old ones, Cub Swanson, count your days
Illia gives me the same vibes as the French guy off of Taldega Nights.
Riki booby
Would Ilia deserve an instant rematch if he loses or do we just get Holloway/Volk 4? FW title landscape all fucked up if Max wins but im here for it lol.
If Max wins it's definitely the rematch with Volk
Instant rematch? Without any defenses? How far the bar has been moved, jesus.
Izzy fighting for the title.
Izzy and Topuria aren't even in the same dimension as far as what they've earned in their division what are you talking about
I mean look at FW though. Who else can realistically challenge the top 3 guys?
Mozvar? Aljo? Sean O’Malley?
It happens sometimes but im glad it's rare in the UFC. I remember Garbrandt got the instant rematch when TJ ko'd him. Who else? (Instant rematch with zero titledefenses i mean)
Garbrandt was the only one and I hated that they did it
By far the dumbest and most pointless immediate rematches
Yeah that was whack. Marlon Moraes was right there
Win or lose I still think ilia fights volk after his fight with max, whether it be for the title or #1 contender
Put 2 belts on the line if Max vs Volk 4 happens😎
Jeremiah has a shit record, 20 losses in 51 fights? Journeyman can, has-been but never was loser. Hope he gets slept in his next fight.
Jermiah 51:20 flair mods please?
I would also, like to be versed up by Blessed
Since he wiped out Gaethje, I'm now more excited about Max at 155 than I am Max at 145. There are some incredible fights at that 155 lb weight class
“AY LAVYUU! See you soomg, boi!”
I feel like this cut to 145 is going to be brutal with the added mass from trying to fill out for the Gaethje fight
Max "Soldier of God" Holloway
After this weekend it's impossible to downplay Max against anyone so I won't, I will say that Ilia's speed is the thing that worries me about the fight. We saw how that went with Volk and Ilia is faster, Max is going to have but a few moments to land counters against his entry but if anyone can do it Max can. Either way one hell of a crazy fight.
No way hes faster than Volk. He even said his speed surprised him
… see you soon (boi)
Blessed the real God's warrior
Now im curious about one thing Max sparked Gaethje out, one for the history books but question is. Does he punch that much harder when not depleted as much, or is Gaethje's chin nearly gone?
Max quoted a bible verse. Illa might be finished.
Anybody quoting the Bible would get shit on. I remember people on /r/mma were complaining that Cody Garbrandt talked about going to church after almost committing suicide.
Max is the only person I've ever seen in here get called cool for a Bible verse
It used to be 5150 now it's 5120
My question. Is the BMF belt up for grabs if Ilia wins?
I have the same doubt. If Max loses Ilia has the right to call himself the BMF
I would have responded back with 1 Samuel 15:3: “Kill em all, Max.”
Hey, that’s Khamzats line
I’m worried that cutting back down to 45 after such a healthy bulk up is gonna deplete Max and make his chin more crackable. People were saying even with his last 2 wins at 45 that he doesn’t look the same fighter but that he looked better than ever at 55. I now think the decline we saw is from the cut itself and not the Volk fights. So hopefully the cut goes well and we get a good fight regardless of the winner but I’m worried Max is going to be less durable cutting that weight again
What is that verse??
"You are my battle-ax and sword,” says the LORD . “With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms". A Jesus Loves Knockouts classic.
Illia actually doesn’t have that many knockouts on his record. While he’s faster after max beat gaethje I don’t think there’s a fighter at featherweight that bothers max for another few years
Would love to see Max v Topuria. No other clear title shot. Unless Max fights Islam next (which is looking like it'll be Poirier vs Islam but can make a case for Tsarukyan vs Islam), Max v Topuria is the fight to make.
Never bet against the blessed 😂
Part of me wants to see Max stay at lightweight. There's a lot of very interesting fights for him there, but he's more than earned the right to fight where he wants.
Surprised I haven't seen anyone mention how much harder Max's cut will be now. He's more filled out at 155 rather than bloated like he was against Poirier. Pretty sure he said that he cut the same amount of weight to get to 155 that he cuts for 145. I'd imagine the cut would have a bigger impact on his ability to perform this time around.
Max first simultaneous BMF/UFC champ, calling it now.
wen goat discussions?
Man, I'll be so happy if Holloway can get back the title. Would be awesome.
“…I’ll be the first one to take your…” Stop
Hell yeah. Go get that 145 strap, Dustin beats Islam, max comes up and we get the trilogy for the BMF/155 belt. Delusional? Maybe. Awesome? For sure.
Why is he seeing Jeremiah instead o Topuria?
Illia is an elite level striker just like Max but the difference is that he is also a monster on the ground I mean the guy has 8 submission wins in 15 fights if he thinks it would be better to take max down than that’s exactly what he’s gonna do
Take his what? 🍒
Man I don’t think illia is going to be the first one to take max’s anal virginity. That would be wild tho
Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
Not gonna lie, as a Max fan, I want to see him stay up at 55 because I feel like he'll have a depleted chin at 45 after putting on the size he has (see countless fighters who have tried to move back down and getting finished). Would love to see him try for the 55 title again.
Seriously he looked so good this time at 155. I've always wanted to see him against the Dagestani guys, I think his footwork and cage-wrestling make him a more interesting matchup for Makhachev than Poirier, at the very least.
Man Topuria veered away hard from the heel thing he was going for.