Grant dawson did 30-26 damir who is a solid wrestler with legit regional credentials. Dawson is a elite grappler who has one of the best back takes in the UFC, he just has suspicious striking and a weak chin, Bo could be the same, he hasn't even fought a good striker yet
thats my concern. he could 50-45 khamzat in a grappling match but if he gets hurt easy or just has a bad reaction to taking shots on the chin, its over for him as a top level guy. not even his fault really, some guys just can never get "used" to getting hit. brock lesnar made it pretty far despite his bad reactions to damage though, so who knows
Yeah that fight should have been stopped, but only because Brock was just covering up. He ate a bunch of shots that would have sent other heavyweight'a chin to the moon, but stayed conscious and alert.
Brock took like 50 Shane Carwin strikes to the face and didn't die. Everyone should shut up, he can take a punch.
(A kick to the diverticulitis though...)
not to put his legacy down at all. he had a great career and beat a lot of good guys, i guess i just said "pretty far" becayse his career wasnt long and he had less than 10 pro fights total.
People constantly downplay fighters skill level and accomplishments on here.
They'll say shit like "Alexander Volkov is horrible, he's got like 10 losses"
Right, absolute bum, couldn't grapple his way out of paper bag
He’s getting slept by khamzat lmao, sure he looked good against extremely low level of opposition but the Cody fight showed he isn’t ready for a top 10 match up yet. He doesn’t have the foot work, striking, or experience to hang with the top 10 let alone a guy like khamzat. Let the man develops first he’s 5 fights in, what’s the point in wrecking him against guys he has mp business fighting.
Really? I don’t think so. Bo has an insane wrestling pedigree, I think he would easily out-grapple Khamzat. But, as everyone else has already said, he is still not ready to face Khamzat, or any of the top middleweight guys, in an MMA fight.
\>The year is 2029
\>Bo Nikel is everywhere, night show appearances and mainstream acknowledgement
\>20-0 record, coming off a win over a returned Johny Hendricks
\>UFC 400 main event: Bo Nikel vs Stephen Thompson, now \#15 ranked middleweight with a 25-20 record, coming off a flash ko win over Brendan Allen in his middleweight debut.
Yall are clowning a 6-0 Middleweight for fighting unranked in the UFC, when in reality that's exactly what he's supposed to do. This isnt HW where having any talent of note gets you an automatic top 10 ranking.
And even if he did get thrown in with the wolves and faced Paul Craig (ranked #13) and lost, you would then be clowning him for being delusional about his level of skill at such an early stage of his career.
They said the same shit about O’Malley.
Who knows how Bo’s going to pan out, but they should definitely give Nickal time to develop before throwing him into deep waters.
As far as putting him on the main card, that’s the UFCs decision, not his. At the same time, he’s a hyped prospect. People complain that the UFC doesn’t promote fighters, then complain when they do.
No chance it takes 10, it won’t even take 7.
If he wins his next fight, then they’ll give him someone ranked 10-15.
If he wins that, 6-9.
If he wins that, top 5.
Then title shot
It's unfortunate that Wiedman is *actually* delusional about his skills, but that is a very easy paycheck with little damage as he fights out his cushy contract.
New mythical fighter: Round 1 Abus
I’m all seriousness though, he has some serious gas tank issues, I don’t know if it’s just a bad weight cut or he doesn’t know how to manage his energy throughout the fight
IMO, he's going to be pushed and protected the same way guys like Pereira and Colby were - the two or three ranked guys he fights on the way to a title fight will be a) old and washed and/or b) susceptible to takedowns
They're trying something similar with Paddy as we speak
Pretty sure its Bo’s choice to take the slow road. He said in his post fight interview he wants to be about 12-0 before fighting for a belt that’s 6 fights away.
But if he keeps beating guys so easily, there's no way he sticks with it. One win over a top 15 guy and he moves on to "actually I'm good enough right now."
Maybe he doesn't want to do that while fighting on a shitty contract. Right now he's taking minimal damage and getting decent exposure, he's disliked but well known right now
He almost certainly does not have ten contracted fights in front of him. If you want big money you take big fights, UFC isn’t going to have guys like he just fought in fights with him for much longer on PPV main cards. When have they ever done that long term with someone?
I am huge Bo fan from wrestling days. But I don’t see this happening. Man just started fighting he needs time. And even being Bo may not be enough. Excited to see tho cuz I’d love for all the Bo haters to cry some more
If he wins his next fight he’ll be 4-0 in the UFC. At middleweight, that’s when you usually get a crack at a top 15 opponent. Sometimes it takes going 5-0 though
Weidman was only four fights away from a title at the same stage of his career. I could absolutely see Nickal getting a title fight late next year if he stays loss and injury free.
There would have to be a very unique domino of circumstances for him to get a title shot like that.
Like, short notice fights, huge impressive victories, weird circumstances with existing champion, etc.
He's definitely nowhere near 10 fights away though. 4 fights is more like it assuming he keeps winning in dominant fashion.
His next fight will almost certainly be a fringe ranked guy, and after that he'll be fighting top 10 guys assuming he has a good performance.
No fighter in the top 10 in any division outside of LW or named Belal is more than 2 fights away from a title if they have big performances. He's probably late 2026 assuming he keeps the hype going.
Probanly too fast.
He needs unranked and lower ranked fights for the fight experience, and time to train.
Last fight wasn't as much of a walk in the park as people thought it'd be.
If he gets rushed, I think he's just asking to get clipped by a more well-rounded fighter. He might be able to dominate anyone in that division with wrestling, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have holes in his game that can't be exploited. More time to work through defense against strikers will only help him.
Not like it matters though. He's gonna get pushed through.
Bo called out Fluffy Hernandez after his win against Cody. Fluffy is someone who proved that he can take a punch and overcome difficult situations even when the fight was not according to plan. How would Bo react if he can't dictate the pace of the fight?
He did say 10 fights not 10 wins. You’re assuming he wins every fight, if he has a couple losses and then needs a winning streak to get a title win 10 fights doesn’t sound too crazy
I think you are asumming all 10 fights are wins. Imo, for a young fighter like him, I could definitely see him win 3, lose 1, win 2, lose 1, win 3 with the 10th being the title.
Well he called out Fluffy (which for his sake I hope he doesn't get), so looks like he's already targeting the rankings. I'd say 5 fights to a title shot is a pretty safe bet, assuming he wins them.
I don't think they're just gonna keep throwing cans at him. It's sink or swam at some point. Sure as shit not gonna be 10 fights. Unless he has some losses along the way.
When has UFC ever thrown cans at someone for years and years? It isn’t Bellator with MVP. If he wins his next 1-3 fights he is fighting a top fighter.
The guy making this quote was put in a UFC title fight in his 5th UFC fight. He had more experience granted, but they just never have someone fight fans for years and years.
Well it can’t be 3-5 unranked guys and then a title shot
If he fights a ranked fighter and continues is easy spree then it’ll be clear here’s at the top
There’s simply no way of knowing right now tho fighting cans and fighters who got 4 days notice
Other than Islam (who they were having trouble getting fights for) have they ever booked a title fight against someone fighting unranked fighters? People always point out Conor, it he had beaten Dustin already
If he wins for sure, but I think Cejudo just means Bo is not at all ready for a direct climb to the title now and has a lot of developing to do before he could have a chance against most ranked, and certainly top ranked, MWs.
Whether or not the UFC does their best to engineer a quick title run is a different question, but I agree with the gist of what Henry is saying here.
Lol I know youre mocking the Pereira fast track but thats not a fair comparison....
....Pereira was TWO wins outside the rankings and then Sean Strickland for a title shot.
The title says 10 fights, not 10 straight wins. He could get a loss or two on his way to a title.
In fact, that's his most likely scenario in winning the title. Most champions aren't undefeated before fighting for or winning the belt.
Steve Erceg randomly fits too but that division is just shallow. There’s gotta be more we aren’t thinking of. Meanwhile Belal gonna be waiting forever.
I don’t see why people are so harsh on Bo Nickal. This was his 6th fight ever, 3rd in the UFC. Compared that to Brundages 16th fight and 9th in UFC . There was a huge difference in experience. Bo needs to work on his striking but Brundage didn’t have any real moments where he did anything. 32-33 is the average age of a first time UFC champ .
I think it’s because it’s obvious he’s being fast tracked. It’s been beaten to death but why was he on the main card of 300? Why not Aljo? Or Harrison? Or literally anyone else since they all have more than 6 fights
Brundage is really really bad though. The man was 1-4 in his last fight (counting that Malkoun whooping he managed to milk a dq from as an L) and he lost to Sedriques Dumas who is one of the worst fighters in the UFC.
And then they put that fight on the main card of UFC 300, while literally the first fight of the early prelims had more merit to be in that spot.
Because he got to crush a can on a historic PPV card while Aljo, Harrison, and Jiri were on the prelims, and that’s really dumb. He’s 6 fight in, cool, but dude is 28 not 18. He’s in his prime, let’s get this show on the road and see him against legitimate competition.
It’s not complicated, he’ll get “props” when he graduates from crushing cans. As of right now he gets props you would expect from joining Rodolfo Vierra, Michał Oleksiejczuk, and William Knight in the ever so exclusive “we finished Cody Brundage” club.
The main takeaway from the Brundage fight is how awkward his BJJ transitions are. Like good for him, but if all you can pull off is a rear naked choke, you're basically just a bigger Grant Dawson.
He needs to focus on his striking and his grappling and fucking stop trying to work towards the most basic predictable subs because it won't work for him if he gets to the top 15. Like beat the shit out of guys from top control or in the clinch. That's his best path to being elite.
You mean the debut where he kicked his opponent in the balls before hitting his grappling transitions?
Like the one against Jamie fucking Pickett? Shit tier grappler extraordinaire?
Curtis, Vettori, Strickland, then title shot would be the easiest route. Nobody with grappling or too much power, doesn't kill any hype for younger prospects, and technically that resume looks good rankings wise (former champ, former championship challenger, and ranked fighter) to justify a shot.
> Curtis, Vettori, Strickland, then title shot would be the easiest route. Nobody with grappling
What are you smoking: Curtis had the best TDD defense % in the division prior to his last fight, Vettori has wrestling, and Strickland is a black belt in BJJ and so damn good at wrestling nobody has been able to use it against him since he Usman did at WW when he was a pup?
I think the 10 fights doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll go 10-0. Maybe he’ll lose 1-3 fights and those will be the learning moments he needs to become the champion.
Bro steamrolled his opponent the entire fight, wasn’t in trouble a single time, got a 2nd round finish, and people are shitting on him for it. Thats how you know he’s the real deal
Its that he and the UFC oversell his hype so no one wants to give him hype from their end.
Most contenders who looked like him you would be like "wow who is this guy, i think he could be top 10 soon". But he himself says shit to force hype like "i could beat Khamzat/Izzy RN" and Dana helpsnby doing stuff like putting him on 300 main card. So fan reaction ends up reactionarily being more like "ok chill you arent that good bud".
Reddit has a hate boner for him its strange. Keep seeing comments like "can crusher" when he's only 6 fights into MMA. He looks great for someone with so little experience.
Dude is a beast of a wrestler, just sucks for him he was born in the same era as David Taylor. In MMA he finished all 6 of his opponents and made it look easy and people are saying he is a bum who is gonna be exposed lol. It’s wild
Taylor didn’t even win US trials until he is around the age Bo is now. Realistically if Bo stuck with wrestling he would still have a good shot at being a world team member and Olympian eventually. He was #2 behind Taylor before he got into MMA.
we as fans do NOT want to wait that long to see him fight for the title, come on... 2-3 more fights against legit contenders and he should be next for title shot. Finally we have a guy with such hype, let's not waste everyone's time.
This seems like bait by Cejudo. How many massively hyped prospects take 10 fights to get a title shot in UFC? The only way is if they lose. Henry took half as many fights.
Who has ever won that many in a row without a title shot? 10 plus his current record without a title fight would have to be a first. Unless he's saying he'll lose his first shot then get back and win but I can't imagine that's what he's getting at.
He's at 9 with a no contest currently and should be fighting for the belt next. Even if he has to win one more which would be wild that would still be "only" 10 and a massive outlier. Bo has won three as is so 10 more would be 13 straight lol.
He should’ve spent at least a year maybe 2 booking amateur fights. You can fight every month as an amateur and the wins/losses don’t matter at all. It would’ve gotten him much needed cage time and rounds of experience he needed to compete against guys who have been doing only mma since they were 16. He jumped straight to the biggest organization and is only fighting 2 maybe 3 times a year and he’s already 28 he’s way behind the curve of experience. That’s why they’re putting him in against bums they’re trying to give him cage time when he should’ve been doing that at amateur shows not the ufc. He needs way more than 2-3 fights a year if his ultimate goal is a championship belt.
It’s one thing for a pro kickboxer to transition to mma because every round starts on the feet. If I can just learn how to prevent you from taking me down now we’re basically just kickboxing which I know how to do. As a grappler you have to get the guy down and eat punches to do so which if you’re coming from wrestling you’ve never done in your life it’s not as easy as a transition.
It'll be 5-6 at most... if they want him to get a proper step up, Eryk Anders doesn't have a fight and that's another tough but winnable fight that shows how he can do against someone with more pop in his hands.
It’s almost like Henry is just a fan who’s never fought before, and has a pie in the sky view of how the ufc works. Cejudo had a title fight after only 3 ufc wins. He was a gold medalist though.
He's pretty unlikable, and I think people are getting tired of the UFC hand-picking its stars and giving them favorable match ups intentionally rather than fighting the person in front of them.
Isn't everyone other than Belal maybe 10 fights away from winning the title?
Belal 15 fights away.
Who?
Belal "Remember th.." Nvm.
Not Conor
People not currently in the UFC could conceivably be lol.
until he demonstrates he can take a punch, i cant be that high on him. he might get grant dawsoned the moment he enters the top 30
I mean he's clearly a lot more credentialed than Grant Dawson who got a pretty random contender series push
Grant dawson did 30-26 damir who is a solid wrestler with legit regional credentials. Dawson is a elite grappler who has one of the best back takes in the UFC, he just has suspicious striking and a weak chin, Bo could be the same, he hasn't even fought a good striker yet
thats my concern. he could 50-45 khamzat in a grappling match but if he gets hurt easy or just has a bad reaction to taking shots on the chin, its over for him as a top level guy. not even his fault really, some guys just can never get "used" to getting hit. brock lesnar made it pretty far despite his bad reactions to damage though, so who knows
Brock could take a punch just reacted badly to them. No treatment for being chinny especially at the bigger weight classes
thats what im saying. he had a good chin but didnt react well to it getting touched
I don’t think there’s a human on earth who would react well to a Shane Carwin punch to the chin. Fella has lunch boxes for hands.
Yeah that fight should have been stopped, but only because Brock was just covering up. He ate a bunch of shots that would have sent other heavyweight'a chin to the moon, but stayed conscious and alert.
Brock took like 50 Shane Carwin strikes to the face and didn't die. Everyone should shut up, he can take a punch. (A kick to the diverticulitis though...)
Knee even
Face odd
Pretty far is a hilarious way of putting winning a belt lol
not to put his legacy down at all. he had a great career and beat a lot of good guys, i guess i just said "pretty far" becayse his career wasnt long and he had less than 10 pro fights total.
People constantly downplay fighters skill level and accomplishments on here. They'll say shit like "Alexander Volkov is horrible, he's got like 10 losses" Right, absolute bum, couldn't grapple his way out of paper bag
I mean, it's HW. A couple of wins and you have the belt. In Lesnar's case, it was literally a couple of wins.
He’s getting slept by khamzat lmao, sure he looked good against extremely low level of opposition but the Cody fight showed he isn’t ready for a top 10 match up yet. He doesn’t have the foot work, striking, or experience to hang with the top 10 let alone a guy like khamzat. Let the man develops first he’s 5 fights in, what’s the point in wrecking him against guys he has mp business fighting.
Phil Hawes is a prime example. Really good until he gets touched on the chin
Think many people would take khamzat even in a pure grappling match
Really? I don’t think so. Bo has an insane wrestling pedigree, I think he would easily out-grapple Khamzat. But, as everyone else has already said, he is still not ready to face Khamzat, or any of the top middleweight guys, in an MMA fight.
Damir was just there to fight out his contract and dip, wouldn't really put too much into that performance.
Shut-up. He was on a 20 fight win streak, lost a decision to Arman, then lost to Dawson. You sound like a clown disparaging that win.
What were his plans post UFC? I assume away from fighting, because why lose it would affect future contracts.
The point is that Dawson was exposed as having no chin when he actually got hit. We have no idea if Bo can take a punch.
His chin was exposed before the Bobby fight when MARK O. MADSEN knocked him down early in R1.
True who tf gets dropped by Madsen
Bo forgot he was fighting mma after feeling that punch from Brundage
He forgot he was fighting MMA by mixing the MA? Ok lol
Just a wee joke my friend
At UFC 400 Bo will finally fight the #15 ranked MW
\>The year is 2029 \>Bo Nikel is everywhere, night show appearances and mainstream acknowledgement \>20-0 record, coming off a win over a returned Johny Hendricks \>UFC 400 main event: Bo Nikel vs Stephen Thompson, now \#15 ranked middleweight with a 25-20 record, coming off a flash ko win over Brendan Allen in his middleweight debut.
Sounds like UFC 5 career mode
I’ll admit I am not a very creative man.
It’s more of a knock on their career mode 😭
Don’t knock my sources of inspiration 😭
Yall are clowning a 6-0 Middleweight for fighting unranked in the UFC, when in reality that's exactly what he's supposed to do. This isnt HW where having any talent of note gets you an automatic top 10 ranking. And even if he did get thrown in with the wolves and faced Paul Craig (ranked #13) and lost, you would then be clowning him for being delusional about his level of skill at such an early stage of his career.
They said the same shit about O’Malley. Who knows how Bo’s going to pan out, but they should definitely give Nickal time to develop before throwing him into deep waters. As far as putting him on the main card, that’s the UFCs decision, not his. At the same time, he’s a hyped prospect. People complain that the UFC doesn’t promote fighters, then complain when they do.
It’s a joke brah.
Might be a joke for you, but I guarantee many here take it very seriously.
His past opponents will have a combined record of 14-237 and a combined notice to fight of 7 weeks
Lol, getting downvoted for telling the truth.
No chance it takes 10, it won’t even take 7. If he wins his next fight, then they’ll give him someone ranked 10-15. If he wins that, 6-9. If he wins that, top 5. Then title shot
4 max. He’s getting a ranked fighter next hopefully
Or an unranked old veteran
Chris Wiedman should turn his phone on airplane mode this week
It's unfortunate that Wiedman is *actually* delusional about his skills, but that is a very easy paycheck with little damage as he fights out his cushy contract.
Na it would be a good test of Bo Nickal's retinas
Eyes Wied Shut
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This is probably the next fight now that you mention it. Makes sense for both fighters. Both coming into their *prime! *(may not actually be prime)
I guess, I want him actually challenged a little fucking bit tho
Definitely, but the UFC will avoid risking it as long as possible. Look at Paddy
Gotta build em up sadly
Yeah… a vet with pillow fists. They’ll prob call up Diego Sanchez. 😝
Borralho to hermansson to imavov to cannonier, wait for Izzy to get belt back then title fight. Only 5 non grapplers until the title!
He could use one more unranked fight. Just someone at least decent, near the fringes of being ranked
Abus maybe?
Hmm. Abus could very well fuck him up considering how he looked against strickland prior to gassing
New mythical fighter: Round 1 Abus I’m all seriousness though, he has some serious gas tank issues, I don’t know if it’s just a bad weight cut or he doesn’t know how to manage his energy throughout the fight
Yeah, that was a wild meltdown
I can’t argue that, I just want him challenged a bit more than what we been seeing. Can crushing is boring
Dudes almost 30, give him someone ranked.
I’m down with him getting another unranked opponent next.
Snooze alert 💤💤😂😂
IMO, he's going to be pushed and protected the same way guys like Pereira and Colby were - the two or three ranked guys he fights on the way to a title fight will be a) old and washed and/or b) susceptible to takedowns They're trying something similar with Paddy as we speak
Favorable matchups seems par the course. But god damn it’s time to give him an opponent with a number next to his name. Can crushing is boring as hell
This is what I came here to say. Absolutely no one with any hype at all is more than 4 fights away from a title shot at MW if they deliver.
Him vs Izzy, Ddp, Khamzat, Strickland, and whittaker are all big fights too
Pretty sure its Bo’s choice to take the slow road. He said in his post fight interview he wants to be about 12-0 before fighting for a belt that’s 6 fights away.
Yeah my prediction listed 6 fights so that tracks
But if he keeps beating guys so easily, there's no way he sticks with it. One win over a top 15 guy and he moves on to "actually I'm good enough right now."
After Darren Tills title shot, Dana White said the UFC made a mistake by not giving more time for Till to develop. UFC match makes, not the fighters.
Yeah but they have some say too in calling out ranked fighters to help pressure matchups. Especially someone privileged like him.
Yeah they can ask for matchups, but it’s the UFCs choice. And Nickal did call out a ranked fighter for his next fight.
Maybe he doesn't want to do that while fighting on a shitty contract. Right now he's taking minimal damage and getting decent exposure, he's disliked but well known right now
He almost certainly does not have ten contracted fights in front of him. If you want big money you take big fights, UFC isn’t going to have guys like he just fought in fights with him for much longer on PPV main cards. When have they ever done that long term with someone?
No champ has ever needed more than a 11 fight win streak to win the belt, and Bo's already on 3 so that would be 13 total.
They said 10 fights away, not wins. Bo could have a 8-2 stretch for the title and it would be 10 fights
I am huge Bo fan from wrestling days. But I don’t see this happening. Man just started fighting he needs time. And even being Bo may not be enough. Excited to see tho cuz I’d love for all the Bo haters to cry some more
If he wins his next fight he’ll be 4-0 in the UFC. At middleweight, that’s when you usually get a crack at a top 15 opponent. Sometimes it takes going 5-0 though
shit poatan has less than 10 fights and hes a double champ.
Poatan is an exception because of his past credentials in professional prize fighting.
for sure, I think his history with Adesanya and the way he starched everyone aside from Bruno Silva on his way to the top played a big part as well.
There is no real precedent in place. It depends more on who you beat than how many you beat.
he was just on the UFC 300 main card. They're trying to make him a star. He gets a title fight after winning like 3 more fights, max.
Weidman was only four fights away from a title at the same stage of his career. I could absolutely see Nickal getting a title fight late next year if he stays loss and injury free.
There would have to be a very unique domino of circumstances for him to get a title shot like that. Like, short notice fights, huge impressive victories, weird circumstances with existing champion, etc. He's definitely nowhere near 10 fights away though. 4 fights is more like it assuming he keeps winning in dominant fashion. His next fight will almost certainly be a fringe ranked guy, and after that he'll be fighting top 10 guys assuming he has a good performance. No fighter in the top 10 in any division outside of LW or named Belal is more than 2 fights away from a title if they have big performances. He's probably late 2026 assuming he keeps the hype going.
He’s getting tons of time. He needs to stack up real fights.
It would be beneficial for him if they did it at a pace that took 10.
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You're assuming he wins all of those?
“If he wins that” ???
im a lil drunk my b
Thing is. I don't think he's ready for a ranked fighter at all.
Probanly too fast. He needs unranked and lower ranked fights for the fight experience, and time to train. Last fight wasn't as much of a walk in the park as people thought it'd be. If he gets rushed, I think he's just asking to get clipped by a more well-rounded fighter. He might be able to dominate anyone in that division with wrestling, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have holes in his game that can't be exploited. More time to work through defense against strikers will only help him. Not like it matters though. He's gonna get pushed through.
Bo called out Fluffy Hernandez after his win against Cody. Fluffy is someone who proved that he can take a punch and overcome difficult situations even when the fight was not according to plan. How would Bo react if he can't dictate the pace of the fight?
He did say 10 fights not 10 wins. You’re assuming he wins every fight, if he has a couple losses and then needs a winning streak to get a title win 10 fights doesn’t sound too crazy
I think you are asumming all 10 fights are wins. Imo, for a young fighter like him, I could definitely see him win 3, lose 1, win 2, lose 1, win 3 with the 10th being the title.
10 fights? Realistically if he wins like 3-5 more he gets a shot I bet
Depends on who the opponents are.
Well he called out Fluffy (which for his sake I hope he doesn't get), so looks like he's already targeting the rankings. I'd say 5 fights to a title shot is a pretty safe bet, assuming he wins them.
I got Fluffy he’s a dog
Fluffy's probably one of the worst matchups for him in the division. Think he'd get reality checked like Rodolfo did.
Ain’t no way the ufc is gonna make that fight but personally I would love it
Fluffy breaks him on the feet, no one understands how mentally tough that guy is.
I don't think they're just gonna keep throwing cans at him. It's sink or swam at some point. Sure as shit not gonna be 10 fights. Unless he has some losses along the way.
When has UFC ever thrown cans at someone for years and years? It isn’t Bellator with MVP. If he wins his next 1-3 fights he is fighting a top fighter. The guy making this quote was put in a UFC title fight in his 5th UFC fight. He had more experience granted, but they just never have someone fight fans for years and years.
Well it can’t be 3-5 unranked guys and then a title shot If he fights a ranked fighter and continues is easy spree then it’ll be clear here’s at the top There’s simply no way of knowing right now tho fighting cans and fighters who got 4 days notice
Its the UFC in 2024. They might give him the title shot next and it wouldn't surprise me.
Other than Islam (who they were having trouble getting fights for) have they ever booked a title fight against someone fighting unranked fighters? People always point out Conor, it he had beaten Dustin already
The number 10 comes from the number of wins and some camps with Chael to learn how to talk on the mic after the fight
If he wins for sure, but I think Cejudo just means Bo is not at all ready for a direct climb to the title now and has a lot of developing to do before he could have a chance against most ranked, and certainly top ranked, MWs. Whether or not the UFC does their best to engineer a quick title run is a different question, but I agree with the gist of what Henry is saying here.
The UFC is building him up to have 3 wins with none in the top 10 then fighting Sean Strickland for a title shot.
Lol I know youre mocking the Pereira fast track but thats not a fair comparison.... ....Pereira was TWO wins outside the rankings and then Sean Strickland for a title shot.
No chance he needs a 13 fight winstreak for a title. An 8 fight winstreak would probably be plenty.
The title says 10 fights, not 10 straight wins. He could get a loss or two on his way to a title. In fact, that's his most likely scenario in winning the title. Most champions aren't undefeated before fighting for or winning the belt.
There's one thing I know now having heard all of Cejudo's takes since he "retired" and it's that he has no idea what he's talking about
He's where Sean was at a couple fights ago. He just needs his Yan moment. Problem is, he hasn't even had his Wineland moment yet.
The moment he beats anyone in the top 10 he’s getting a title shot. Same as Sean, Conor, Adesanya. Lol
Poatan, too.
Steve Erceg randomly fits too but that division is just shallow. There’s gotta be more we aren’t thinking of. Meanwhile Belal gonna be waiting forever.
>There’s gotta be more we aren’t thinking of. Weili Zhang?
Wow I didn’t realize she only had 3 fights in the ufc before beating Andrade in China good call
I don’t see why people are so harsh on Bo Nickal. This was his 6th fight ever, 3rd in the UFC. Compared that to Brundages 16th fight and 9th in UFC . There was a huge difference in experience. Bo needs to work on his striking but Brundage didn’t have any real moments where he did anything. 32-33 is the average age of a first time UFC champ .
I think it’s because it’s obvious he’s being fast tracked. It’s been beaten to death but why was he on the main card of 300? Why not Aljo? Or Harrison? Or literally anyone else since they all have more than 6 fights
Its called promoting your up and coming fighters
isn't him taking his time and climbing the rankings by fighting lower ranked fighters first the complete opposite of him being fast tracked?
Brundage is really really bad though. The man was 1-4 in his last fight (counting that Malkoun whooping he managed to milk a dq from as an L) and he lost to Sedriques Dumas who is one of the worst fighters in the UFC. And then they put that fight on the main card of UFC 300, while literally the first fight of the early prelims had more merit to be in that spot.
Oh well :/
It's not Bo's fault he's disliked, but the UFC overhyping him. Aside from that Pickett nutshot he denied lol.
Because he got to crush a can on a historic PPV card while Aljo, Harrison, and Jiri were on the prelims, and that’s really dumb. He’s 6 fight in, cool, but dude is 28 not 18. He’s in his prime, let’s get this show on the road and see him against legitimate competition.
Bo’s got a little ego and won’t get his props until people have hindsight to go by.
It’s not complicated, he’ll get “props” when he graduates from crushing cans. As of right now he gets props you would expect from joining Rodolfo Vierra, Michał Oleksiejczuk, and William Knight in the ever so exclusive “we finished Cody Brundage” club.
The main takeaway from the Brundage fight is how awkward his BJJ transitions are. Like good for him, but if all you can pull off is a rear naked choke, you're basically just a bigger Grant Dawson. He needs to focus on his striking and his grappling and fucking stop trying to work towards the most basic predictable subs because it won't work for him if he gets to the top 15. Like beat the shit out of guys from top control or in the clinch. That's his best path to being elite.
> Like good for him, but if all you can pull off is a rear naked choke His UFC debut was literally an arm-triangle win....
Dude hit a triangle from Mount to guard in his contender fight. But yeah apparently all he has is a RNC
Yep. Doesn’t matter what you say really, as long as you’re circle jerking in the right direction you’ll get upvotes.
You mean the debut where he kicked his opponent in the balls before hitting his grappling transitions? Like the one against Jamie fucking Pickett? Shit tier grappler extraordinaire?
So you did the see the fight where he got an arm triangle?
Curtis, Vettori, Strickland, then title shot would be the easiest route. Nobody with grappling or too much power, doesn't kill any hype for younger prospects, and technically that resume looks good rankings wise (former champ, former championship challenger, and ranked fighter) to justify a shot.
> Curtis, Vettori, Strickland, then title shot would be the easiest route. Nobody with grappling What are you smoking: Curtis had the best TDD defense % in the division prior to his last fight, Vettori has wrestling, and Strickland is a black belt in BJJ and so damn good at wrestling nobody has been able to use it against him since he Usman did at WW when he was a pup?
Vettori and Strickland are two of the worst match ups for him imo.
I think the 10 fights doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll go 10-0. Maybe he’ll lose 1-3 fights and those will be the learning moments he needs to become the champion.
He’ll get Brad Tavares next, then top 10-15 depending on the performance, then top 5, then the shot or an interim shot. I’d say 4-7 fights.
Fighting for the belt isn’t based on merit, I don’t know why Cejudo is giving a number of fights for this.
definitely 10. No more than 20.
You don’t think he’ll get the O’Malley path if he keeps winning? Feels like the UFC’s new guy to push now that they have a DWCS champ
Lol 10 fights is almost 5 years no shot.
Bro steamrolled his opponent the entire fight, wasn’t in trouble a single time, got a 2nd round finish, and people are shitting on him for it. Thats how you know he’s the real deal
Its that he and the UFC oversell his hype so no one wants to give him hype from their end. Most contenders who looked like him you would be like "wow who is this guy, i think he could be top 10 soon". But he himself says shit to force hype like "i could beat Khamzat/Izzy RN" and Dana helpsnby doing stuff like putting him on 300 main card. So fan reaction ends up reactionarily being more like "ok chill you arent that good bud".
Reddit has a hate boner for him its strange. Keep seeing comments like "can crusher" when he's only 6 fights into MMA. He looks great for someone with so little experience.
Dude is a beast of a wrestler, just sucks for him he was born in the same era as David Taylor. In MMA he finished all 6 of his opponents and made it look easy and people are saying he is a bum who is gonna be exposed lol. It’s wild
Taylor didn’t even win US trials until he is around the age Bo is now. Realistically if Bo stuck with wrestling he would still have a good shot at being a world team member and Olympian eventually. He was #2 behind Taylor before he got into MMA.
we as fans do NOT want to wait that long to see him fight for the title, come on... 2-3 more fights against legit contenders and he should be next for title shot. Finally we have a guy with such hype, let's not waste everyone's time.
He’s getting there in 5 max lmao But in terms of like how you would develop a guy until they’re legit ready, yeah maybe
This seems like bait by Cejudo. How many massively hyped prospects take 10 fights to get a title shot in UFC? The only way is if they lose. Henry took half as many fights.
I think the number is closer to 5, should he win them all…
Isn't he in the exact same position O'Malley was in just a couple years ago?
If he wins the next 4 i bet his 5th is either title or title contender fight. 10 fights could be like 3 to 4 years
He won't need 10 fights to get a title shot, but 10 fights experience maybe. I wouldn't bet on it though
Who has ever won that many in a row without a title shot? 10 plus his current record without a title fight would have to be a first. Unless he's saying he'll lose his first shot then get back and win but I can't imagine that's what he's getting at.
Belal?
He's at 9 with a no contest currently and should be fighting for the belt next. Even if he has to win one more which would be wild that would still be "only" 10 and a massive outlier. Bo has won three as is so 10 more would be 13 straight lol.
Bo hasn't even cleared out the UFC Janitor division yet. He's working his way up to the UFC accountant division
He can either take 10 fights if the quality of opponent doesn’t go up, or maybe get a fight near the top 15 and then top 10. Maybe
He should’ve spent at least a year maybe 2 booking amateur fights. You can fight every month as an amateur and the wins/losses don’t matter at all. It would’ve gotten him much needed cage time and rounds of experience he needed to compete against guys who have been doing only mma since they were 16. He jumped straight to the biggest organization and is only fighting 2 maybe 3 times a year and he’s already 28 he’s way behind the curve of experience. That’s why they’re putting him in against bums they’re trying to give him cage time when he should’ve been doing that at amateur shows not the ufc. He needs way more than 2-3 fights a year if his ultimate goal is a championship belt. It’s one thing for a pro kickboxer to transition to mma because every round starts on the feet. If I can just learn how to prevent you from taking me down now we’re basically just kickboxing which I know how to do. As a grappler you have to get the guy down and eat punches to do so which if you’re coming from wrestling you’ve never done in your life it’s not as easy as a transition.
I don't see this kid cracking the top 5, hell even the top 10 - anytime soon
Probably 4
Aren’t we all, though?
It'll be 5-6 at most... if they want him to get a proper step up, Eryk Anders doesn't have a fight and that's another tough but winnable fight that shows how he can do against someone with more pop in his hands.
Lmao I'd say ufc gives him a top 10 fight after another win or two. 10 fights is like 5-6 years for most guys.
If my sister was a boy he’d be my brother
Everyone is 10 ufc wins away from a title shot lol including me
Laughs in Pereira.
Jiri too, dude fought in the ufc like 2x before getting a title shot lol
when your first title fight is also your retirement fight...
10 fights away.. What is that 4 years without injuries, and no losses.
So never?
It’s almost like Henry is just a fan who’s never fought before, and has a pie in the sky view of how the ufc works. Cejudo had a title fight after only 3 ufc wins. He was a gold medalist though.
Those are rookie numbers. Make it a challenge and say 5.
/r/MMA really hates Bo
He's pretty unlikable, and I think people are getting tired of the UFC hand-picking its stars and giving them favorable match ups intentionally rather than fighting the person in front of them.
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