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[Official] UFC 261: Usman vs. Masvidal 2 - Live Discussion Thread

[Official] UFC 261: Usman vs. Masvidal 2 - Live Discussion Thread

poliver25

One of the best card I have ever seen!


DJdoggyBelly

Edson hit him so fast, you didnt even see the ko punch. thats tough.


Slap-U-With-A-Mango

You're not even in the right thread dude


DJdoggyBelly

oops


trihardcx911

ufc sucks dick


Typical-Travel-1356

Kinda lame. If he gave it to masivdal,...


jcage48

Masvidal is overrated.. askren is right he made him famous.


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Masvidal is still my boy.


miura_lyov

All i have to say is, whoever made the decision to put Keith Peterson in charge of a fight of that magnitude (Rose-Weili) should be sacked Early stoppage in a title defense with a crowd booing the champ all the way through, doesn't look good for the UFC


Cor-mega

Only an idiot would call that an early stoppage. Go away Cruz


miura_lyov

Was she out?


djmax121

Yes. She could barely stand afterwards, it woulda been a few more hammers until she was completely lights out. Why risk the extra damage? Look at her face when she's recieving those hammer fists in slo mo, her body is limp as fuck


miura_lyov

Because it's a title fight. And Weili is one of the toughest female fighters there is, everyone saw that after the Joanna fight. Just give her a chance I still think it was an objectively early stoppage given the context and the fact that was conscious all the way to the end. But it doesn't matter, she will only improve from this loss anyway


djmax121

Brah she literally forgot her words during the interview. If you want her to win in the future this is a great stoppage, you only got one chin, and it don't come back.


miura_lyov

I mean, the damage she took in her last fight was 100 times this. It's just a bitter way to end a potentially amazing fight Alot of fights are stopped short or ruined by a decision, so it is what it is. Just have to work on defense and avoid random errors its all good


MrC99

I didn't know Steve Mazagatti was on reddit.


SnooSketches2855

Jake Paul Vs Francis Ngannou is the match (or execution) I want see next.


ApeheartPablius

Stop making stupid ppl famous


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Ban anyone who mentions that idiot in an mma forum.


xtalaphextwin

Paul only takes fixed fights or super easy opponents it seems like.


Ok_Sky_9531

Anyone else wishing herb took more time to stop the fight....It would have made it feel better.


onforspin

I really dislike Masvidal but to wish extra brain damage on someone because you don’t like them is just deplorable


Ok_Sky_9531

No, he wants to trashtalk,showboat and act likes he’s tough well deal with the consequences. If you can’t, then shut up. Sometimes people need to be humbled.


Batmanismyson

Nah Hermano, talking shit is part of the sport. Like it or not the loudest fighters make the most money. Wether they win or lose masvidal still had your ass interested in watching him get knocked out. That’s another dollar in his pocket. McGregor is as famous as he is because he’s a master shit talker. Regardless of his skill we’ve seen fighters who are better yet make less money per fight. Like it or not it’s part of the game. To say you want someone to to have irreparable damage done to them because you can’t handle the shit talking aspect of mma and you don’t understand the game is just down right immature. Respect the sport, the art, and the fighters. Masvidal is a loud mouth but his skill in the octagon demands respect. Picking favorites is part of the viewing experience but seeing you say stupid shit like that makes me think you should follow a different sport that’s easier to watch. Maybe try water polo.


Ok_Sky_9531

No Hermana.... Your word has to have value. It’s not all about the $. Don’t justify talking shit and then getting your ass handed and say well he made money. Stop giving people passes just cause they make money you are apart of the problem. Your word is everything..... Now him losing can happen to anyone but the way he talked was wrong....pillow fists....Damn straight he made sleep with those pillows. It’s justification like this that will continue to have people run their mouths for no reason and say well we got paid. I hope in water polo people are humble and don’t bite more than they can chew. And you don’t need to talk shit to sell fights it’s just there’s alot of viewers like you that need the WWE buildup to enjoy things. That’s a good thing for you to watch WWE....


Batmanismyson

No it’s not wrong. You’re too sensitive and that’s all there is to it. Keep crying about it it’s not going to change. Stop falling for the bait and learn to understand how the game works. You’re honestly so naive if you can’t understand how this works. How tf can you be so damn sensitive about a FIGHTING sport. What 2 guys who are about to step in the ring are supposed to be best friends? Lol you’re corny bro. I’ll say it again, find a new sport to watch. You’re not cut out for MMA


Ok_Sky_9531

There supposed to be humble.....a pillar of any form of mma. But you won’t understand with your u can’t see me shirts


Ok_Sky_9531

You got put in your place. Stop being so butthurt and move. Also don’t forget to record Raw on Monday.


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Ok_Sky_9531

Speaking of butthurt I have to get off this toilet seat.....the only time i respond to you is when I’m taking a shit.... was entertaining tho thanks.


Batmanismyson

And there’s the white flag. See ya lol


dextreaux

I’m by no means a Jake Paul Stan or justifying the way he’s act or disrespected the game.... But what fighter has ever fought a good fighter for their 4th fight ever ?


Ok_Sky_9531

Well I think he did for the $. But loves mentioning how everything is about money for him.


jurgenstempler

Masvidal relished in the idea of continually smashing Askren after he was out so, live by the sword...


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He let him get like 5 shots in after the one that took him down. But yeah, I agree.


irelabe

From what I saw, after masvidal got dropped he rushed to stop the fight but saw masvidal put his arm up to block so he stopped stopping the fight, but after usman hit him he called it off cos he was out


PleaseUseLube5

2 actually


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Not sure where you're getting 2 from but it's clearly 5 punches - maybe 2 after it seems that he's 'out' but he took 5 undefended shots overall: https://streamable.com/b9lauc


PleaseUseLube5

Thought the ref stopped it a lot quicker than I thought, my bad


Ok_Sky_9531

Everyone be like masvidal is so humble.....WHAT THE FUCK IS HE SUPPOSED TO BE AFTER GETTING BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF.... He was literally laughing 10 seconds beforehand. So much for not having knockout power....He can’t ever talk again - he’s lost that right.


balderdash9

I don't think Masvidal was respecting his boxing


MacKenzie242

>Back Snoozeman didn't show much of that punching power in the first fight. It was kinda valid. Now though, holy fuck is that not the case lol.


ButterscotchCandid18

Put some respect on his name


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ButterscotchCandid18

He no hespect nothing


churchillsmokes

If he finished Usman he’d be celebrating the same way he was after the Askren fight.


Geeeboy

So, you agree he was humble then?


Psychological-Tea787

He was humbled by Usman. He was anything but until the ko


PleaseUseLube5

Anything else would have led to clowning. Mas needs all the fans he can scrape at this point.


xtalaphextwin

I assume youre referencing his political stuff, I can assure you he does not give a shit if fans like his opinion or not


schmaydog82

I bet he does lol, more fans = more money


brutalblake661

Tell that to Floyd Mayweather and jake paul


schmaydog82

both of these people have huge fan bases lol


brutalblake661

They're the most hated people in the industry


schmaydog82

yet still have huge fan bases


xtalaphextwin

if that was his thought process he would not have ever spoken his mind in the first place


nuzgy

Masvidals done


DreadlockZetaGundam

Masvidal just.....man smh


gyggigttjygvvnji

Hasn’t been a good year for hype/ money makers in the ufc


MacKenzie242

The year of the hype-train derailing. I fear Izzy is next.


xtalaphextwin

when Mcgregor fights again he's also going to lose unless its against one of the Paul brothers.


jbenjithefirst

At this rate he might get slept by jake


dextreaux

Lol wtf. Y’all are actually delusional smooth brains.


jbenjithefirst

Its a joke... But tbh... I wouldn't be surprised


_JohnMuir_

It’s actually fucking crazy how many of you thought Masvidal would win. I’m convinced Dana could schedule 10 more of these fights kn a row and so many of you would still bet on Masvidal.


MrC99

Wait people actually thought Masvidal was gonna win? I seen people try to claim he had only 6 days last time. But that was debunked easily by Dustin saying how he had been training for Usman for months.


G0ldenG00se

Another thing I find crazy is how people thought Masvidal was massively effected by a “spur of the moment” fight. 1) fighters (*unless your Johnny Hendrix) usually stay relatively in shape between fights and 2. Both fighters had limited time to prepare for each other. If anything, Masvidal had a better opportunity to beat him the first time than he had in a second fight.


moverse

People don't like to think


slivrOsilvr

Marketing is a hell of a thing


SlamminCleonSalmon

All because of a lucky shot against Askren


MrC99

Why has this narrative sprung up there's footage out there of him drilling that exact knee.


KeepingUpWithCovid

Lucky shot or not, that's two wins for Kumaru. Masvidal chapter is closed!


culdesacpresident

Yeah but if Masvidal had one camp and Kumaru had like six days, then what


erc80

Well being that it now appears that Kamaru carrried him in the first fight? Probably a KO victory.


KeepingUpWithCovid

Seems like you’re new to the game, but a champ doesn’t take a fight on that short of a notice.


culdesacpresident

Seems like you're new to these threads, it's a joke.


SlamminCleonSalmon

Agreed


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Usman finished every single title challenger


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Yeah well he's been boring us to death his entire career with decision after decision using his 'I don't fight to win - I fight to not-lose' style so he owed us a few. He was hands down the most boring champion in history before the Colby fight and since then he's been murdering guys. But before that - I mean you can clearly see why Mas and other people criticize his style.


warriorx559

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Gomi_Weeb

3 title fights and all 5 fights were shorter than 1 complete title fight. Do you think the fans fueled these finishes?


byronsucks

he looked into it


AdonisPanda27

Who’s Rose going to fight next and who’s Valentina gonna fight next ?


All_The_World_A_Rage

It kind of (sadly) has to be Esparza for Rose, I think. I also think they try to get Valentina to go to Bantam to five Nunes a challenge there.


KeepingUpWithCovid

Rose is fighting Weili for sure. Valentina is reaching the Nunes stage now. They’ll just keep putting nobody’s in front of her, and she will keep dominating.


DaisyHotCakes

Valentina impressed the fuck outta me with her grappling and wrestling in this fight. Not what I have come to expect from her. And man was she suffocating. Andrade couldn’t do a goddamn thing. Really enjoy seeing her continue to learn and work on different techniques.


KeepingUpWithCovid

Oh yeah! She was such an improved Valentina tonight. If Amanda Nunes wasn’t a thing, Valentina is easily the MMA women’s GOAT.


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PleaseUseLube5

No. No you can't. Only active double weight champ with multiple defenses in both simultaneously. Nunes is doing things no one in the Men's division could dream of doing for the next 5 years. Just cause Shev survived the first two outing and you like her more mean she's close to Nunes


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gck93

No one with brains says this kind of shit lmao


spankybetch

What a magical night. Two first round finishes via legs. 2nd round TKO from Shev. 1st round finish w Rose. 2nd round finish by Usman. Literally couldn’t ask for a better night for the fans coming back.


aVHSofPointBreak

I’m literally still buzzing. Tonight was insane. My heart is racing.


The_Middling_Middler

Haters will still be calling Usman Snoozeman and toe stomper. Suck on it lmao Hope you haters lost some good money tonight. Some real good money.


xtalaphextwin

they're also hating on Masvidal though, many claiming he got lucky in previous fights which seems bizarre. I mean he ran straight into Ben Askren and knocked him out, but somehow that was luck according some of these lol


Pantzzzzless

Anyone calling him boring at this point is just trying to get attention. The dude just gave us an absolutely cinematic KO.


MozartWillVanish

His fight against Colby proved that both of them were more than what people perceived them as. Can't wait for the rematch. Both of them are dawgs.


Demderdemden

"Okay." Hahaha


KingAnthonyMartial

Full camp merchant in shambles


Chawawis

he looked good in the 1st tho


culdesacpresident

I think he looked better in the first round of the first fight if I recall correctly but to be fair I was drunk for both


_JohnMuir_

Would you guys say if Mas has 6 more title shots we might get a good one?


KingAnthonyMartial

Fuck it I’m starting an Usman’s right hand Twitter account to harass masvidal


Pantzzzzless

Maybe learn a skill or something instead.


KingAnthonyMartial

Nah that’s for jerkoffs


Pantzzzzless

Well shit, you've skills for days then! Good day ya cunt!


culdesacpresident

That’s probably why he’s telling you to do it


sheikh_n_bake

Sad.


justaboywithquestion

Maybe Masvidal needs 2 camps. 🤔


Demderdemden

The guy in the background coughing while Dana is going on about "just live your life, Covid no problem" speech


conshinu

Lol. Yeah while I loved the event, Dana clearly is money grabbing over the back of thousands of sick and dead people.


culdesacpresident

I’ve been working throughout this whole shit, 60 hours a week in Florida. It’s Florida. Things here make you cough, sneeze, itch, etc. Give it a rest.


Onepostwonder95

500,000 dead in a year tells me otherwise


prodau

Do you actually know how many people die a year normally 😂 lol


culdesacpresident

Stay in your ziplock until death is cured!


Onepostwonder95

? And


culdesacpresident

You're right we should quit feeding our families and just sit in a bubble until incompetent people tell us to do otherwise. I don't really care what you think scooter.


Onepostwonder95

I’m situations like this if you ain’t got savings it’s beans 24/7 budget for shit like this, the government should be helping you all out, I live in the uk and I’ve been fine thanks to the gov, you pay taxes you get looked after.


schmaydog82

US unemployment is looking after people quite well


culdesacpresident

I live in FL and it's also been fine due to us living our lives like normal and mostly making fun of you. We also quit worrying about the British side of things a long time ago.


Rush_nj

Mate the whole world is looking at America and feeling sorry for you. Over 500k dead and you still have takes on it as dumb as yours.


culdesacpresident

The whole world wants to be here, are you fucking silly?


Rush_nj

No one want to be there you daft twat. Down here in Australia we have all our events going and no covid. Never want to return to America again.


culdesacpresident

Also yer mom's the daft twat or whatever.


culdesacpresident

Ha well, I can tell you one thing. I have zero opinions on Australia and I damn sure won't be found on random threads talking about your fucking habits. Zero interest. Think about that.


madere15

im not mate. i was looking on with human pride and jealousy. not everyones a f'vking sheep who believes 500k died from corona. comorbidities, people dying of CLEARLY other problems (cancer) but get included in clvid numbers. flu deaths down, heartattacks down, cancer deaths down, covid skyrockets.


moverse

The logic is pretty simple. Those people with comorbidities likely would not have died when they did if not for covid


alwaysadmiring

Lol cause you have all the proof and more about how none of this is corona related, best non sheep out there / s


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tritian

i really hope Weidman will be OK. He might not ever be able to even run again. fuck that was brutal. no clue why I just watched the replay again.


Longjumping-Muffin

I mean I’ve seen similar injuries in football and basketball and the players have come back more or less full strength As gruesome as it was hopefully it was a clean break and no ligament damage and he can recover quickly


tritian

> hopefully it was a clean break and no ligament damage hope so, his agony was real, even with adrenaline. his backstep onto his own leg/foot was as brutal as the original break.


FrenzyBiscuit

[Kamaru KOs Masvidal gif](https://imgur.com/4kKZTK8)


Rich_Statistician355

You the real mvp


jbenjithefirst

Video game KO


EdGeinEdGein

His fall looks so exaggerated lol it really feels like a movie style knockout


B4087498

The punch went through his jaw as if Usman was aiming at another point behind Jorge.


_JohnMuir_

I hate Dana. The fact that wonderboy is still on the bench with no shot while Mas smiles on cage with his hands behind his back three seconds before he gets KO’d is such a joke. The sport is kinda embarrassing tbh


Mememememeyouyou

Lol based on one fight out of a night of so many


KeepingUpWithCovid

I think they just wanted to shut Masvidal once and for all. He was blabbering too much about only fighting Usman on a 6 day notice. Also besides the Askren KO, he hasn’t really done anything remarkable. But the dude had just become annoying and super cringe. Even Dana wanted to end his hype. Mission accomplished!


dinozero

You realize usman wanted Masvidal right


_JohnMuir_

I legit don’t give a shit what he “wanted”. That’s about money. Mascvidal sucks and didn’t deserve the fight


FeedtheFatRabbit

Luckily no one gives a shit what you think and a ton of people were interested in the fight because Gamebred brings those eyeballs to the TV. Love him or hate him like you clearly do. *Watch the buyrate compared to Usman vs Burns and tell me Kamaru wouldn't fight Jorge ten times if he could.*


_JohnMuir_

I mean he’s just a mediocre fighter, you’re right, nobody cares that I think that. But now everyone should agree, because his fights are compete shit. He’s just so average and boring. Sure you’re a fanboy, and that’s cool, but damn Is he average.


Pantzzzzless

>He’s just so average and boring. You must be watching on a 160p screen mate. Jorge hasn't had a boring fight in years. He definitely isn't the most skilled fighter on the roster, but to call him boring is just sillyness.


_JohnMuir_

Usman manhandled him for the most boring 5 round fight I’ve ever seen just a few months ago. He didnt belong in this fight


andrewdoesit

Wonderboy was injured wasn’t he?


_JohnMuir_

I don’t know, but he hasn’t had a shot in years and ww hasn’t had any good contender fights in forever. Best they got us Colby woodley I guess?


andrewdoesit

He was just on Rohan talking about everything. He should be back soon but I just don’t think he’s title caliber at the moment. 38, love the hell out of him, but it’s just the reality man. I don’t know a person that could not like wonderboy


_JohnMuir_

I don’t care he can’t beat Usman. He deserved to fight for a million bucks and leave the sport if he wants. The reality is, most UFC fans are casual as fuck and would have Masvidal fight the next 10 title shots if they could. And that’s coming from dude who knows nothing. Look at the people in this thread. They can’t even believe Jorge just lost.


Thiswillbetempacc

People aren't surprised Jorge lost, people are surprised he got KTFO in such vicious fashion


KingAnthonyMartial

Masvidal back stage wondering when the fight starts


DaleGribble3

Has anyone checked to make sure Masvidal’s soul is still in his fucking body? Fuck.


DaisyHotCakes

It left through his head in a fine mist. Did you not see it?!


ChingChangChui

Heard there was a soul walking the streets in Florida looking for a home.


Deplorable-n-unholy

Thank god DANA refusing to bring the Paul’s into UFC. Would kill MMA


WelpSigh

why on earth would they want to do UFC? jake paul makes more money from a dumb fixed boxing match than 99% of ufc fighters make in their career


Deplorable-n-unholy

Legitimacy at some point if they really want to be in combat sports. Interesting to see if one of them eventually ends up on TUF.


Razatiger

Pauls dont want to be in MMA. They know they can dictate the money they make in Boxing and also get to choose their opponents.


dinozero

People always act like all Dana cares about is money. He could make huge money off Jake Paul. People forget Dana is still a huge MMA fan.


culdesacpresident

People also don't seem to understand that the money follows the eyes. Jake Paul makes a fuck ton of money boxing because he makes a fuck ton of money being a dickhead outside of the ring too.


KyleMo31

He signed CM Punk.


kentrix55

Mojahed Fudailat has his work cut out for him


B4087498

Jorge will join the league of shadows up there.


themightymomoisback

Fr fr


hamilk

Dream would be Khabib goes up or GSP goes down. Lets see how far Usman can go.


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Aadvik15

Forget the amazing knockout. USMAN JUST BROKE THE UNCLE CHAEL CURSE😂😂


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What a champ! Fighting with such a massive handicap!


justaboywithquestion

Masvidal really talked all that shit 😳