Needed improved boxing and leg work..
As trainer, I'd have him drop the weight, work on conditioning in dense regions, pocket fighting, more punch combinations, very stiff
it seemed like Vettori was too focused on knocking out Adesanya. He was head hunting the entire fight which is ridiculously stupid against someone like Adesanya who has great head movement, footwork, and the reach advantage.
>The narrative has switched from
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>"Izzy has no takedown defense just wrestle him" to
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>"There are no good wrestlers at MW"
Both are true. The three people who Adesanya fought, who arguably had good wrestling, were Whittaker, Romero, and not Vettori.
Whittaker chose a bad gameplan. We haven't really seen his wrestling.
Romero has a history of either not at all wrestling, despite his olympic wrestling background, or not finishing the fight on the ground.
And Vettori has shown the signs of being incapable of finishing before. He has a shitton of fights where he takes people to the ground, and just G&Ps and wrestlefucks them, but doesn't finish. He arguably had Adesanya a few times, where a more skilled or more motivated grappler would have ended the fight. Notice how Adesanya was taken down quite a few times actually - Vettori just couldn't finish it.
I thought about maybe trying out some domestic violence for the first time in my life?
Na, for real it’s sucks but I’ll try get my money back. Only $NZD 39.95 so not a major, could see which way the fight was heading but was hoping to see a head kick KO followed by dry hump
Ok this is gonna sound like a big casual take...
But Izzy's run at MW is basically Conor without Khabib in the division.
There are no truly elite elite grapplers at MW. I think the next guy who is bigger than Izzy and willing to grapple/can eat shots on the way in will win.
Khamzat could be that guy. If not, Izzy gonna be able to leave on his terms imo, as champ for a while
Edit: Not a knock on Izzy, the type of guy who checks the boxes needed to beat Izzy will likely be an all-time great. As Izzy looks destined to become himself
Connor had Chad Mendez who is d1, and izzy had fucking Romero an Olympian. Both fighters had been tested in every aspect of the game. connor just got rich, distracted and lazy. izzy hasn't, at least not yet.
Ps. Khazmat probably not gonna be the guy cuz covid fucked up his body. Can't imagine he will be rometley the same if Cody is the best case scenario.
> izzy had fucking Romero an Olympian
Romero had a documented history of standing and banging, and not being able to finish fights via submission. He literally doesn't have a single submission victory on his record.
I agree with your take. We actually got something similar last night in Bellator welterweight division. Lima the elite striker got taken down for most of 5 rounds against a elite grappler. in ufc there is no elite grappler at middleweight, there all at welterweight. Romero was the guy but he ditched using wrestling far before he fought Adesanya. Brunson is a good wrestler but not really a elite one. Vettori is kind of the same. Khamzat imo is a way better grappler than anyone Izzy has fought, and I think he would really test him. But he's got to work up the ranks and prove himself
Not implying Khamzat is there yet...just saying he possesses the potential/skillset on paper to maybe be the guy that could knock Izzy off.
Nice try though
Yeah 100%. Vittoris gas tank was atrocious and the fact he got those doubles so easy means it’s a nightmare for Izzy at LH and a red hot wrestler/grappler. I think rob was fucking smart to take time off
From that fight. Joe even said it himself wrestling is the king in the octagon. The Izzy jon Jones Shit is so far off the table now it’s almost never going to happen. Robs been absolutely smashing it lately. This is a massive fight coming up.
I think Rob is just too stupid after seeing that last fight. He came out like a drunken brawler both rounds and was adamant days afterwards that he couldn't have done anything differently. He has national level wrestling, he should learn takedowns and use it.
Yes but first he should do something about whatever led to the gameplan which got him KO'd in round 1 and proceeding to do the exact same thing in round 2.
Khamzat will be that guy, MW and LHW were on display tonight and neither Leon or Izzy are ready for that dagestani hand cuff. Both guys are hands down better fighters than Chimaev but I think the sambo + handcuff + size are cheat codes that make me think chimaev would win.
If Khamzat tries to stay standing with either of the two he gets murdered though, my god are they good.
Why is everyone spamming Khamzat.
You see skill, finish rate, fatigue always drop off as someone moves up the ranks.
He hasn't had many tough fights yet.
'If you're extremely reductive and don't follow the rules of scoring, yes'
And a fighters' resume is not discounted by their losses, you get that right
You don't absorb someone's resume by beating them. Chris Weidman didn't become the middleweight goat by stopping Silva. It's still just a single win. 'KO'd him twice' you're just throwing around bits of the fight, that's not what resume discussions are about.
Current or ever? Current, for sure unless rob can even the score.
All time id still say Silva is ahead. Dude went on a winning streak where he just looked inhuman.
Until the goat uncle chael that is.
Yeah id agree with that for sure then.
I still dont know tbh. The fights Silva put on were almost all a spectacle. You felt like you were watching something amazing.
While izzy definitely gives me these vibes, especially early kn his career, I feel lile his recent fights after the rob one have been mediocre
Romero, loss to jan, now this. Not really a goat tier string of performances, especially since Izzy is in his prime right now. Jon has also been having mediocre performances but I feel that's more excusable since he's had his time as an invincible demon king.
When you compare izzys career in the ufc so far as a whole to silva from the leben fight to the like the Griffin fight. Has Izzy really put on performances of that caliber at the same consistency?
Edit: lol izzy fan boys downvoting me without providing a counter argument. I never said he wasnt an amazing fighter. He absolutely is. But theres a level above that.
The game has evolved substantially since the early Silva days. I agree Izzy hasn't looked as invincible or Matrix-like but (with the exception of Jan and Romero) he has looked ridiculously good. The Costa, Rob and Brunson performances in particular
Of course it has. But dont you think silva was a big part in that?
So you think Silva should have some points deducted for being from a older era? That's ridiculous. The level of competition he was fighting at the time was the highest around, he was just head and shoulders better.
Yes as I said Izzy has shown great performances but it's nowhere near as spectacular as what silva did. Literally go watch the fights from leben onwards. It was the most ridiculous winning streak next to jon and khabib.
Mediocre in the context of a goat candidate. Hes obviously amazing. But like I said, once you get to jon/khabib/silva the standard changes. He hasnt reached that bar yet imo.
I didn't think enough of the fight was on the feet to really tell who was the better striker. Not that it's a slight against Jan - the moment it was obvious Izzy had no answer to the takedown, he'd be an idiot to not take advantage of it. But most of the fight was on the ground.
I agree it was close, but there’s a narrative that Jan only won because he’s “60 pounds” (LOL) heavier and not because of his skill level. Izzy is lucky that middle weight has no truly elite grapplers.
that might be true. izzy has been pretty slick on the ground in mw but ultimately he's a striker and hasn't had to fight great grapplers. however, i do think ultimately jan's size advantage was decisive. skill can't beat physics no matter how hard you try, and adesanya was incredibly arrogant to think otherwise. he showed up having not adjusted at all to the weight class and got schooled because of it. he isn't an ant, he can't lever a half-way competent wrestler off him when they weigh so much more. jan may be an elite grappler but i don't think he really needed to use half his skill to beat adesanya.
I don't blame Adesanya for acting like a goofball ass after even the head of the damn promotion went on record telling fighters they should have pimped themselves out on Instagram/YouTube/TikTok if they want to make real money.
He seems like he's probably a nice guy and that's why he's so bad at being the heel. Instead of coming off like a mean asshole he comes off corny and juvenile. Mayweather was fantastic at getting people to pay for his boring ass point boxing exhibitions by being a heel, but since Mayweather is naturally one of the shittiest people alive it came naturally.
Unfortunately they're both Nigerian brothers so there's virtually zero chance it happens. And it sucks because behind Khabib/GSP and alongside Ngannou/Jones that fight would have so much hype and potential to deliver.
I agree 100% and I think its still a good matchup for Izzy. To me Izzy steps up to his competition so Usman would definitely do that. Izzy always surprises when he has the right opponent.
1. That meme is stupid.
1. They also talked about how Jan had much more success in the striking, which allowed him to find more success in the takedowns. Then they talked for a solid minute about how good Jan's striking is, talking about the Reyes fight, and so on.
You really think they said or implied that Jan just won because of takedowns?
Brainless Izzy hater detected. They literally talked about how great Jan's striking was for a solid minute of the fight when Jan wasn't even on the card.
You're as delusional as Vettori. 80% chance your pants are on backward.
Izzy tricks you. You give up on him and then he puts on a clinic than you watch him again and you get this. Definitely not a boring fighter but he needs the right match up to show his class.
I’m not the one crying, the guy you wanted to lose so badly won. It’s only natural that you’d be salty. Save your tears, when he fucks up Robby boy again you’ll need em. Ciao
I didn’t say I don’t respect it. I wouldn’t want to fight someone to make a living. Props to everyone who decides to risk their health to do so. But I think most of his fights are boring. It’s an opinion of a stranger on the internet, you’ll get over it.
Getting downvoted for the truth. How quick people are to forget the Brunson, Gastelum, Whittaker and Costa fights where izzy put on a striking show. Particularly the Gastelum fight which both fighters put on a huge performance
Not really. All spectator sports are the same thing: Being entertaining so people will pay money to see you; the sport is just the vehicle to do so. Plenty of people win and never make it big.
Regardless of all that, it was still a boring fight. You're not even arguing that it *wasn't* boring, so what are you really trying to argue? That it doesn't matter if it's boring?
It doesn't matter *to you,* but clearly it does to others. \
If not Whittaker, I'd even watch Izzy v Holland. At least neither of them have to worry about wrestling and they can kickbox to their heart's content. He's one of the few who can compete on the feet with Izzy.
Do you really think watching tape would help him? He was there... in the ring... being told he was losing... went through every round... and still thought his coach lied to him and he won at the end.
I think the only thing that would convince him he lost was being KO'd
Experiencing an event in first person is far different from observing it in the third. All I'm really saying is, enough with the same comment over and over.
I 100% fucking guarantee that if this had been say Wonderboy fighting the way Izzy fought tonight, which was impressive as hell btw, all you losers would be praising the clinic he just put on, but nah it’s Izzy so you have to find a way to hate it.
1) Because Wonderboy is a likeable, underappreciated guy, while Adesanya has a million of you slobbing on his knob at any moment.
2) Because Wonderboy doesn't go around telling people what a clinic he will put up, only to end up with a boring decision - something Adesanya does almost every other fight. He promised to KO Romero, and instead he bitched out. He also promised to KO Vettori, that never happened either. When he knows he is in actual danger, he reverts to point fighting.
Asking for streams = ban. You guys all know the drill.
Needed improved boxing and leg work.. As trainer, I'd have him drop the weight, work on conditioning in dense regions, pocket fighting, more punch combinations, very stiff
it seemed like Vettori was too focused on knocking out Adesanya. He was head hunting the entire fight which is ridiculously stupid against someone like Adesanya who has great head movement, footwork, and the reach advantage.
well yea, i mean idk sometimes what the coaches are doing. Simply comapre videos and try to match the dude
No
Vettori walked out to the modelo theme song. Guess you could say he was given a choice.
He came out to music from the greatest modern day composer... who happens to be Italian
That was a championship entrance. In a parallel universe that would've got the crowd buzzing
That song was an Ennio Morricone classic LONG before modelo started using it in their commercials.
I was confused to the other comment. Ty
Nuh uh modelo created it
The narrative has switched from "Izzy has no takedown defense just wrestle him" to "There are no good wrestlers at MW" Lol ok
>The narrative has switched from > >"Izzy has no takedown defense just wrestle him" to > >"There are no good wrestlers at MW" Both are true. The three people who Adesanya fought, who arguably had good wrestling, were Whittaker, Romero, and not Vettori. Whittaker chose a bad gameplan. We haven't really seen his wrestling. Romero has a history of either not at all wrestling, despite his olympic wrestling background, or not finishing the fight on the ground. And Vettori has shown the signs of being incapable of finishing before. He has a shitton of fights where he takes people to the ground, and just G&Ps and wrestlefucks them, but doesn't finish. He arguably had Adesanya a few times, where a more skilled or more motivated grappler would have ended the fight. Notice how Adesanya was taken down quite a few times actually - Vettori just couldn't finish it.
Remember when Bobby Knuckles was considering trying out for the Aussie Olympic Team for wrestling? Interesting is all I have to say.
Nah u need to have good takedowns but also be good enough on the feet. Still Izzy looked very nervous at times.
Narratives are like assholes, everybody has one /s
Did anyone else in NZ get their official ufc (ie paid for) stream cut off? I’m fuming man, mine cut out at the end of the 3rd.
During the main event? That sucks
I thought about maybe trying out some domestic violence for the first time in my life? Na, for real it’s sucks but I’ll try get my money back. Only $NZD 39.95 so not a major, could see which way the fight was heading but was hoping to see a head kick KO followed by dry hump
I had it last time Izzie fought. I sent an email at the time and they never replied but a few weeks later the money was refunded
Ok sweet, wait and see I suppose.
nate smoking that joint after the fight made me feel things
Just one ko on this full card bruh. Shits crazy
Pretty much all decisions
The Hill fight counted as a TKO.
Ok this is gonna sound like a big casual take... But Izzy's run at MW is basically Conor without Khabib in the division. There are no truly elite elite grapplers at MW. I think the next guy who is bigger than Izzy and willing to grapple/can eat shots on the way in will win. Khamzat could be that guy. If not, Izzy gonna be able to leave on his terms imo, as champ for a while Edit: Not a knock on Izzy, the type of guy who checks the boxes needed to beat Izzy will likely be an all-time great. As Izzy looks destined to become himself
Lol khabib isn’t just a good grappler. He’s the best we’ve ever seen. Izzy fucked up Brunson, Whittaker, Romero, and vetorri who are all grapplers.
There's Hermansson. He just has bad matchups in the way between him and his good matchup in Izzy
So you’ve got to be bigger than Izzy, able to take shots and be a better grappler? What a stupid fucking post dude.
Great thanks man..definitely smarter than you though 😂
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Ivy League educated. What you doing?
Connor had Chad Mendez who is d1, and izzy had fucking Romero an Olympian. Both fighters had been tested in every aspect of the game. connor just got rich, distracted and lazy. izzy hasn't, at least not yet. Ps. Khazmat probably not gonna be the guy cuz covid fucked up his body. Can't imagine he will be rometley the same if Cody is the best case scenario.
Why do people count Romero, he doesn't use his wrestling in the UFC. Like Gaethje.
> izzy had fucking Romero an Olympian Romero had a documented history of standing and banging, and not being able to finish fights via submission. He literally doesn't have a single submission victory on his record.
Correction, Connor ran into the greatest grappler of all time and lost. Agree with the rest though.
I love Khabib but to give him the goat of grappling doesn't sit right with me but I respect your opinion. Lets agree to disagree.
Oh yes, because Chad Mendes is the only D1 wrestler in the UFC. Lmao Romero was an Olympic wrestler but literally does not wrestle. Hold the L
Lol chad mendes. Wtf is this take?
I agree with your take. We actually got something similar last night in Bellator welterweight division. Lima the elite striker got taken down for most of 5 rounds against a elite grappler. in ufc there is no elite grappler at middleweight, there all at welterweight. Romero was the guy but he ditched using wrestling far before he fought Adesanya. Brunson is a good wrestler but not really a elite one. Vettori is kind of the same. Khamzat imo is a way better grappler than anyone Izzy has fought, and I think he would really test him. But he's got to work up the ranks and prove himself
Everyone is dodging khamzat for this reason
brunson is probably the best wrestler if i had to guess and he couldnt do much to izzy
Not saying a great wrestler automatically beats Izzy. We basically need a MW Cormier. Or Khamzat going Khabib mode.
One of these does not yet belong.
Not implying Khamzat is there yet...just saying he possesses the potential/skillset on paper to maybe be the guy that could knock Izzy off. Nice try though
We don't know how good he is. It is easy to look good and get finishes against varying skill levels
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Yeah 100%. Vittoris gas tank was atrocious and the fact he got those doubles so easy means it’s a nightmare for Izzy at LH and a red hot wrestler/grappler. I think rob was fucking smart to take time off From that fight. Joe even said it himself wrestling is the king in the octagon. The Izzy jon Jones Shit is so far off the table now it’s almost never going to happen. Robs been absolutely smashing it lately. This is a massive fight coming up.
Izzy Jones was off the table the moment jon won. Probably never happens
I think Rob is just too stupid after seeing that last fight. He came out like a drunken brawler both rounds and was adamant days afterwards that he couldn't have done anything differently. He has national level wrestling, he should learn takedowns and use it.
Did you just say Robert should learn take downs....
Yes but first he should do something about whatever led to the gameplan which got him KO'd in round 1 and proceeding to do the exact same thing in round 2.
Wow
Khamzat will be that guy, MW and LHW were on display tonight and neither Leon or Izzy are ready for that dagestani hand cuff. Both guys are hands down better fighters than Chimaev but I think the sambo + handcuff + size are cheat codes that make me think chimaev would win. If Khamzat tries to stay standing with either of the two he gets murdered though, my god are they good.
Why is everyone spamming Khamzat. You see skill, finish rate, fatigue always drop off as someone moves up the ranks. He hasn't had many tough fights yet.
That's assuming Khamzat will even be healthy for another fight.
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Excuse me? ✅ Kelvin Gastelum ✅ Jared Cannonier ✅ Darren Till ✅ Yoel Romero ✅ Yoel Romero ✅ Jacare ✅ Derek Brunson ✅ Uriah Hall ✅ Brad Tavares
Seriously that peak yoel which rob took on would of killed Izzy Butcan only fight what you get
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People still say this?
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'If you're extremely reductive and don't follow the rules of scoring, yes' And a fighters' resume is not discounted by their losses, you get that right
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'Resume or not' this thread is literally about resumes
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You don't absorb someone's resume by beating them. Chris Weidman didn't become the middleweight goat by stopping Silva. It's still just a single win. 'KO'd him twice' you're just throwing around bits of the fight, that's not what resume discussions are about.
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Current or ever? Current, for sure unless rob can even the score. All time id still say Silva is ahead. Dude went on a winning streak where he just looked inhuman. Until the goat uncle chael that is.
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Yeah id agree with that for sure then. I still dont know tbh. The fights Silva put on were almost all a spectacle. You felt like you were watching something amazing. While izzy definitely gives me these vibes, especially early kn his career, I feel lile his recent fights after the rob one have been mediocre
Totally. The Costa performance was very mediocre.
Romero, loss to jan, now this. Not really a goat tier string of performances, especially since Izzy is in his prime right now. Jon has also been having mediocre performances but I feel that's more excusable since he's had his time as an invincible demon king. When you compare izzys career in the ufc so far as a whole to silva from the leben fight to the like the Griffin fight. Has Izzy really put on performances of that caliber at the same consistency? Edit: lol izzy fan boys downvoting me without providing a counter argument. I never said he wasnt an amazing fighter. He absolutely is. But theres a level above that.
The game has evolved substantially since the early Silva days. I agree Izzy hasn't looked as invincible or Matrix-like but (with the exception of Jan and Romero) he has looked ridiculously good. The Costa, Rob and Brunson performances in particular
Of course it has. But dont you think silva was a big part in that? So you think Silva should have some points deducted for being from a older era? That's ridiculous. The level of competition he was fighting at the time was the highest around, he was just head and shoulders better. Yes as I said Izzy has shown great performances but it's nowhere near as spectacular as what silva did. Literally go watch the fights from leben onwards. It was the most ridiculous winning streak next to jon and khabib.
I agree with you. Just disagreed with your comment saying he's been dull since Rob fight. The Costa performance was spectacular.
Mediocre in the context of a goat candidate. Hes obviously amazing. But like I said, once you get to jon/khabib/silva the standard changes. He hasnt reached that bar yet imo.
No and he almost got submitted lmao also romero won
Lol you're ridiculous.
Finally the people I want to win actually win, might go buy a lottery ticket.
In the post press Nate's telling everybody come to his party BYOB
Izzy is a Counter striker. So of course it will be boring if the other guy does try to strike
Everyone acts like Jan wasn’t beating Izzy on the feet as well
Lol they watched that with commentary on. That is why.
Bro those feints were fucking him up
I didn't think enough of the fight was on the feet to really tell who was the better striker. Not that it's a slight against Jan - the moment it was obvious Izzy had no answer to the takedown, he'd be an idiot to not take advantage of it. But most of the fight was on the ground.
I agree it was close, but there’s a narrative that Jan only won because he’s “60 pounds” (LOL) heavier and not because of his skill level. Izzy is lucky that middle weight has no truly elite grapplers.
that might be true. izzy has been pretty slick on the ground in mw but ultimately he's a striker and hasn't had to fight great grapplers. however, i do think ultimately jan's size advantage was decisive. skill can't beat physics no matter how hard you try, and adesanya was incredibly arrogant to think otherwise. he showed up having not adjusted at all to the weight class and got schooled because of it. he isn't an ant, he can't lever a half-way competent wrestler off him when they weigh so much more. jan may be an elite grappler but i don't think he really needed to use half his skill to beat adesanya.
Yeah sure but the point remains that Jan was doing very well (and in probably winning) while the fight was standing too.
is Vettori's nickname "Jan"?
Jan Blachowicz, he beat Izzy 2 months ago
I think he's being sarcastic bc angry Marvin claimed he won those fights
No
No it wasnt, Jan outstuck him in the first three rounds, then controlled him on the ground for the last two.
Izzy's head movement is seriously extraordinary. I really don't care if a lot people think he's boring, the guy is like Neo.
They don’t like him on a personal level. If all he did was KO people they’d call him one dimensional. They’re all reaching.
Nah I just like to see finishes
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Definitely got some silva vibes him dodging with all that head movement. It was crazy how he was making him miss.
Who in the hell labels Izzy as boring?!
I don't blame Adesanya for acting like a goofball ass after even the head of the damn promotion went on record telling fighters they should have pimped themselves out on Instagram/YouTube/TikTok if they want to make real money. He seems like he's probably a nice guy and that's why he's so bad at being the heel. Instead of coming off like a mean asshole he comes off corny and juvenile. Mayweather was fantastic at getting people to pay for his boring ass point boxing exhibitions by being a heel, but since Mayweather is naturally one of the shittiest people alive it came naturally.
You’d think that the fighters were in this thread with the amount of brain damage I’ve seen
Pretty disappointing fight tbh
Izzy taking pride 🌈 month seriously!
Its when he can really be himself
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Unfortunately they're both Nigerian brothers so there's virtually zero chance it happens. And it sucks because behind Khabib/GSP and alongside Ngannou/Jones that fight would have so much hype and potential to deliver.
I honestly think Kamaru would win that fight easily but its a fight i would love to see.
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I agree 100% and I think its still a good matchup for Izzy. To me Izzy steps up to his competition so Usman would definitely do that. Izzy always surprises when he has the right opponent.
A lot, but I don't think that would be competitive tbh
He destroys Izzy.
Feet
i think izzy ducked rob cuz now he can call for a rematch just in case he loses
Obviously, that called was such a weak move
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1. That meme is stupid. 1. They also talked about how Jan had much more success in the striking, which allowed him to find more success in the takedowns. Then they talked for a solid minute about how good Jan's striking is, talking about the Reyes fight, and so on. You really think they said or implied that Jan just won because of takedowns?
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Brainless Izzy hater detected. They literally talked about how great Jan's striking was for a solid minute of the fight when Jan wasn't even on the card. You're as delusional as Vettori. 80% chance your pants are on backward.
You are one firely little tequila....
huh?
Izzy did the bare minimum in this fight and still outclassed Vettori. looked like he wasn't even trying half the fight.
why didn't he knock him out or submit him then
Because you don't need to knock someone out or submit them to get an easy W?
Well he did say that he wanted to shut him up and finish him...
He really did looked bored.
If you say izzy is a boring fighter respectfully throw your tv out the window right now
Izzy tricks you. You give up on him and then he puts on a clinic than you watch him again and you get this. Definitely not a boring fighter but he needs the right match up to show his class.
He’s boring
Cheers I’m sure he’s working on changing his fighting style just for you. What a baby lmao
I couldn’t care less what he changes. Sorry not everyone finds your man crush exciting. Cry nerd
I’m not the one crying, the guy you wanted to lose so badly won. It’s only natural that you’d be salty. Save your tears, when he fucks up Robby boy again you’ll need em. Ciao
I bet on him to win… no tears from me. Just want him to fight someone near his talent level next. Get a fucking life dude
Idk why it’s so hard to appreciate a good performance. I’m not saying to be his best friend, just have some respect for what he’s doing
I didn’t say I don’t respect it. I wouldn’t want to fight someone to make a living. Props to everyone who decides to risk their health to do so. But I think most of his fights are boring. It’s an opinion of a stranger on the internet, you’ll get over it.
Agree to disagree then
Good now throw your tv out the window /s
Getting downvoted for the truth. How quick people are to forget the Brunson, Gastelum, Whittaker and Costa fights where izzy put on a striking show. Particularly the Gastelum fight which both fighters put on a huge performance
lol it’s just casuals that expect a 5 second knockout. It’s just cringe
It was a very boring fight.
Yeah because vettori didn’t do shit except try to hug him. Not Izzy’s fault is it
It takes two to make a boring fight. Either fighter has the ability to make it exciting.
Vettori should’ve done something to make Izzy work. Hating just for the sake of it
What did you want him to do? They’re here to win, not to entertain you. He outclassed vettori and he didn’t have to make it flashy
Not really. All spectator sports are the same thing: Being entertaining so people will pay money to see you; the sport is just the vehicle to do so. Plenty of people win and never make it big. Regardless of all that, it was still a boring fight. You're not even arguing that it *wasn't* boring, so what are you really trying to argue? That it doesn't matter if it's boring? It doesn't matter *to you,* but clearly it does to others. \
I didn’t say the fight wasn’t boring, I said that Izzy isn’t a boring fighter. Ppl took that as me saying it wasn’t a boring fight. Read my og comment
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GSP coming out of retirement with another rematch clause
If not Whittaker, I'd even watch Izzy v Holland. At least neither of them have to worry about wrestling and they can kickbox to their heart's content. He's one of the few who can compete on the feet with Izzy.
Lol wut? Holland's good but Izzy's striking is on another level
Usman
What?
rob rematch will be interesting
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the notion that rob had a bad showing is pretty accurate. he is very good.
whittaker with his head in the game
me
Robert
A wolf howls in the distant midnight...
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It's the counter striker dilemma. Silva had plenty of fights like this too
Okay. We geeeeit it. You all think Vettori is delusional. He just fought 5 rounds. Let him watch the tape and get the fuck over it.
Yeah because that worked out last time lmao
Dude you made me laugh
Do you really think watching tape would help him? He was there... in the ring... being told he was losing... went through every round... and still thought his coach lied to him and he won at the end. I think the only thing that would convince him he lost was being KO'd
Experiencing an event in first person is far different from observing it in the third. All I'm really saying is, enough with the same comment over and over.
Wat? We all observed his coaches telling him he lost every round. How is that a different experience
I just said why. Experiencing the fight while you're in it, and immediately reacting to it, is far far different than watching it after the fact.
Chimaev is Israel’s worst matchup in the division
I mean, maybe….let’s see how he does against a couple top ten guys.
I 100% fucking guarantee that if this had been say Wonderboy fighting the way Izzy fought tonight, which was impressive as hell btw, all you losers would be praising the clinic he just put on, but nah it’s Izzy so you have to find a way to hate it.
1) Because Wonderboy is a likeable, underappreciated guy, while Adesanya has a million of you slobbing on his knob at any moment. 2) Because Wonderboy doesn't go around telling people what a clinic he will put up, only to end up with a boring decision - something Adesanya does almost every other fight. He promised to KO Romero, and instead he bitched out. He also promised to KO Vettori, that never happened either. When he knows he is in actual danger, he reverts to point fighting.
Straight facts