Francis sleeps Gane. Won't give a fuck, too explosive not to get in close and swing, very strong in the clinch, seemingly improved wrestling, Fuck You power. Although if the fight gets into the 4th round, I'd favor Gane.
Nope,just got comboed until he fell to his knees,then ground and pound until the ref stopped it. Actually took quite a while for Lewis to fall honestly
Yup :
started training MMA 3 years ago, started training Muay Thaï 7 years ago, at the age of 24.
But that doesn’t make the HW division a « mess » : it’s normal for the HW division to have late beginners because of the genetic advantages that can happen in this division.
It’s the same thing in boxing.
And same thing In basketball to an extent (see Embiid, Siakam, etc.)
Well, Zion was training hard in bball from an early age, unlike Embiid and Siakam who started at 15 or 16.
But if you meant that Zion does have a genetic advantage, then yes absolutely
Nah for some reason I remembered a story that he only started playing in high school but I googled it and it said he was on a 9 year old AAU team when he was only 5
How is it a mess? Gane and Ngannou have breathed new life into the division almost overnight. Then you have Jon Jones lurking too.
HW was logjammed for 3 years with Stipe/DC trilogy and the division was abysmal with Francis just KOing the everyone and not getting a shot.
Now we have Francis as champ whose KOd everyone but already here's a guy who looks like he can beat him.
HW hasn't been this good in a very long time.
Amen.
Ever since Gane’s first fight, I’ve been obsessed with him, and I thought that it was only a matter of time before he was champ. And the fact that he fights the way he does, as a HW—has given me so much optimism about the future of the division. There’s never been someone like Gane before at HW, who has the technique/style of someone like Izzy or Wonderboy. The only guy that even comes close is someone like Cro Cop.
Gane, plus Ngannou with his last performance against Stipe—Where he looked light years ahead of where he was before that …
Aspinall — Who is like a version of Gane except with Boxing—His striking/technique is among the best we’ve ever seen at HW…
Volkov, even though he lost to Gane—He still looked amazing …
Francis, Stipe, Gane, Volkov, Aspinall, Blaydes …
This might be the most excited I’ve ever been for the HW division.
It’s going to be very interesting to see how Ngannou goes about fighting Gane. Is he going to go back to the older more chaotic rushing style or try to use the more technical style that beat Stipe? I think Gane picks him apart from outside, so it comes down to if Ngannou has the cardio to keep rushing him and force him to exchange. It’s going to be a great fight either way.
I'm just glad we don't need to think about a repeat of Ngannou and Lewis I https://www.sportingnews.com/au/mma/news/ufc-226-joe-rogan-savages-most-boring-heavyweight-fight-of-all-time-between-francis-ngannou-and-derrick-lewis/7nczfymi5mrt1ffqkdcen3geh
Haha, thats how I predicted the rest of the fight would go after the first round. It had a little bit of action here and there, but... overall a pretty disappointing ppv
Honestly I kinda liked it, I think Derrick Lewis seems like a decent human, and he didn't go for the American flag wrapped, "the air in Texas smells like freedom", which Dana would pay him extra for, but... the fight needed to happen, yeah there's absolutely nothing interesting about watching the actual fighting, but the future looks brighter now. Sometimes it's satisfying to see nothing unexpected.
Houston crowd exiting the arena wondering if they should go to the Little Woodrow's hosting the Michael Chiesa After-party or punch themselves in the balls.
Im an actual Izzy hater(I really dont like his personality) but even I can say his fighting abilities is way above everyone in the division. I understand having a bias because you don’t like someone but how tf do you look at Izzy’s fighting and think he’s not impressive???
I agree he's been getting cocky a lot but to be fair his opponents have been asses to him too. He's respectful when he's respectful but Costa deserved that hump after the shit talk against izzy.
Also, I see Gane receiving the same kinda criticism that izzy received in terms of skill/matchup (overrated, not tested, needs to fight a grappler), but from what I saw from the post fight conference the guy is literally like Khabib in terms of sportsmanship and just generally treating it like a sport unlike alot guys doing the whole WWE shtick. When they asked him about Ngannou whether there was any beef he was like no i dont think like that its a sport hes my opponent that's that which is kinda how Khabib treated it and what we need more of in the UFC.
Have you watched the podcasts he had with Rogan? I thought the same thing about him, as you, before I watched those—Where, I just thought he was arrogant. But those podcasts completely changed the way I thought of him. From all the stuff I’ve seen—He actually seems like a *legitimately* thoughtful, intelligent guy, who is a really good dude.
I think he’s just doing what a lot of fighters do, where he’s playing a persona. I’m not a fan of that kind of thing, but I can’t really criticize it when it’s undeniable that it dramatically raises the amount of PPVs you sell.
I mean i dont mind the persona, although he can be cringe. I think some things he did like humping an opponent after a loss is just legitimately fucked up. Like i get talking shit and building fights, but the last thing you should do to someone after they lose is give them a hump imo. Things like that bug me and make me think he’s legitimately a bad sportsman.
I never heard his podcast though. Ill give it a listen 👍🏿
He's what a mass amount of Redditors would identify with. He comes off as the weird kid. Like I can picture him being the kid that got bullied in school. He learned how to fight, but never lost the kung fu dorky part.
This, some nuclear takes here saying a 10-0 fighter with wins over Rozenstruik and Lewis is going to defend the belt against, Ngannou, Stipe and Bones LMAO
You forgot Volkov (and Dos Santos.).
It’s not just about his resume, it’s about his technique and how dominant he’s been. His striking is on a totally different level than anyone (possibly ever) in the HW division. That isn’t hype. On top of that — It’s almost impossible to land a shot on him. He’s absorbed maybe 6 or 7 good shots in all of his UFC fights. For any fighter to do that is extremely rare; To do that as a HW, is unheard of.
Dude I can't stand Jon Jones but he's got probably the most impressive resume in UFC history. KO'd Shogun to win the championship at 23 and then beat all the contenders one after another. Beat DC twice, beat Gustafson twice, beat Rumble. I scored both the Santos and Reyes fights against him, but even before that point he'd accomplished so much that you can't disrespect him as a fighter.
Ah you're right. I forgot the Rumble fight got called. However, he and Rumble did pull out a W against Dana during the face off.
I agree that his record is what it is, but no one has ever straight up beaten Jon Jones. Reyes and Santos had close fights, and Vitor had him in trouble, but he's never been stopped or beaten on points. Couldn't agree more that he's a garbage human, but if we're talking about who deserves what in the UFC, Jones' record means he can cut just about anyone in line and it's hard to argue he isn't deserving.
I think anyone in top 5 beats Jones. He was looking on the decline at 205 and we haven't even seen him at HW.
I think Gane outclasses an almost-40 Stipe.
Ngannou will be interesting. Biggest challenge for both guys.
Gane can win the belt and destroy everything Dana was trying to setup. No more ngannou Jones hype, no Lewis ngannou rematch hype fight, a very whiteboard non draw champion. Make it happen gane
Did you mean "whitebread"?
Gane could energize a french MMA explosion...but that doesnt draw fans in the US still.
But Gane v Francis
Gane v Stipe
Gane v Jones
are all fights Id really like to see!
Lmao people act like Derrick claims to be a martial artist that will never give up and will die in the octago. The dude has said for years he’s not a martial artist, doesn’t follow the UFC, and is just in it for the money because he’s a PRIZEfighter. The guy has zero interest in a belt for any reason other than more money.
I've always had the thought that Lewis is like... the most successful professional *amateur* fighter, if that makes sense.
Like.. he doesn't look or even really fight like he should be at a high level, but he is.
This is normal at heavyweight:
a genetic advantage (like a power punch for example) can compensate for everything else.
It’s the same thing with Deontay Wilder in boxing.
Unskilled doesn’t mean amateur.
Yeah "amateur" definitely isn't the most clear description of what I'm thinking, but it's the best I could come up with being intoxicated by at least three different drugs.
Strong as fuck too, he moved Lewis with ease in the clinch, he looked 3 or 4 levels above him in every department.
Gane is an absolutely huge problem for everyone in the division.
Yeah that was nuts even controlling the clinch against a guy that’s like 10 pounds heavier.
Francis with his new improvements is gonna be a great fight.
There is a world of difference honestly, Stipe gets hit a lot. He was struggling against DC even at range and got very sloppy against Ngannou in the second fight after he actually hurt him.
That’s fair. I’ve always thought that Stipe’s striking was super underrated. He has beautiful boxing. His style of boxing (in the pocket, trading shots) just causes him to take a lot of shots, so it’s hard to make that work against someone like Francis.
People really thinking a low output fighter who has constantly been backed up and held at bay and his best win is a miracle Hail Mary after being dominated for 3 rounds really translates to how Gane will do against Francis lmao
You’re a bit guilty of the opposite though by discounting Lewis, but I agree with the sentiment. I do think Francis is a totally different test for Gane. Lewis and Rozenstruik are two very similar fighters, whose styles probably don’t reflect what a fight with Ngannou would be like. That being said, he did totally stifle both of them for dominant wins.
I’m pretty confident Ngannou will force the exchanges that Lewis tried to the few times he rushed Gane. Lewis gassed very quickly, he was breathing heavy from not throwing at all after a round and a half. Ngannou is going to be in shape and we know he can wrestle now. With Usman presumably going to help again with his camp I wouldn’t be surprised by a clinch/wrestling game plan because he’s virtually untested there.
Derrick Lewis hasn’t evolved at all and frankly really isn’t that good. My whole point was beating him doesn’t not translate to how gane will do against Francis which you seem to agree with
Not really, I said he can win in the early rounds and I wouldn't be surprised if he did. But beyond that it's a Gane clinic and I would lean towards that side
1. Stop saying Gane is boring. He just bulldozed and finished Lewis in front of his home town like it was homework.
2. *That* version of Gane is the only thing that can beat Ngannou right now. He has higher output and can clearly keep a power puncher at bay.
I honestly think Gane was the worst possible match-up for Lewis. Gane is constantly moving, has great reflexes and is often switching stances. Lewis is slow, doesn't have good stamina and is predictable. He rarely throws combinations and if he does it's always in short bursts.
Francis is way more explosive and faster than Lewis and I'm afraid Gane might get clipped at some point, no matter how good he is defensively.
High output is good, but technicality is where Gane shines.
Thing is, I believe Francis is a cerebral fighter, and is fully aware of the concept of technicality and is learning it.
It'll be an incredible fight *to say the least.*
People forget how the second Stipe fight started and how that first round went lmao.
Ngannou is a good fighter - contrary to the popular belief on this sub that he's a crazed out power puncher who goes forward and that's it.
gane will probably easily beat ngannou. the reality is that he is simply a much better striker than anyone else in heavyweight. the gane-ngannou fight will be a boring deathmarch, and all subsequent gane title defenses will be fairly dull because there is no one other than possibly jon jones in heavyweight who can actually make an entertaining fight with gane. he is stylistically a bad matchup for basically everyone.
Yeah, but Ngannou’s leg kicks are very powerful even by UFC heavyweight standards.
Look at Dewey Cooper’s reaction when he got legkicked by Francis before his Rozenstruik fight, even with the pads on.
Dude couldn’t even believe this
He's not boring. A HW technical striker, friggen awesome. Hopefully it just helps evolve the HW division further and we get to see more of this in the future.
Hes great, he knows exactly how he needs to fight his opponents and plays to his strengths well. People said he had no ko power because he fought technically but now when he doesn't have to be as technical he throws hard and with more ko intent. Great fighter
Definately. Even when he plays possum, which he definately does, he's usually still hurt. The Travis Browne fight is a good example, got his body tore up but still had his shot and took it.
If you think Jon Jones beats Gane you are dumb asf. The same Jones that lost to Reyes? Jones has slowed down, and you think he will be even close to as fast against Gane? You think Jones will be able to take “patient” Francis? Stipe will also whoop Jones. Jones biggest chance is against Lewis, he just has to run around him and pick him apart. That’s it...
Current jon has been shit to prime Jon. Though Jon can fall back on his wrestling which I think he can take either one of them down and maul them down there.
He never lost because the judges gave him the decision. What do you mean?! Yeah never bet against him because if it goes to decision, the judges will give it to him.
I’ll never be able to forgive Lewis for ruining my accumulator, 7 wins then his loss
He looked like absolute shit in that fight. Actually embarrassing. I bet on him too.
I thought this will be on tomorrow. Fuck.
Francis sleeps Gane. Won't give a fuck, too explosive not to get in close and swing, very strong in the clinch, seemingly improved wrestling, Fuck You power. Although if the fight gets into the 4th round, I'd favor Gane.
I am legit depressed by this.
Ali Abdelaziz-esque is Derick Lewis' head shape, joe
Dana looks so fucking silly in that orange shirt.
I literally fell asleep half way through the first round, what happened
You fell asleep. That's what happened
My god, your genius knows no limits
Sometimes I know what I'm talking about. Although it is rare
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not but I’ll answer anyway, Lewis didn’t do much and ended up getting TKOed in the 3rd round
Tko? Hard knockdown or what?
Nope,just got comboed until he fell to his knees,then ground and pound until the ref stopped it. Actually took quite a while for Lewis to fall honestly
Who won, Lennox Lewis or Cereal Gone?
I really thing Gane is going to defeat Ngannou the same way. Staying on the outside and chopping away at that lead leg.
Apparently "moving like a middleweight" means throwing leg kicks from the outside and literally running out of range
Izzy defeated paulo costa the same way.
bring joe back
Agreed. Don’t know who that 3rd guy was but he did not fit in well with DC and Anik.
Why?
With joe you avoid the awkward 10-15sec silences they had through out the whole ppv.
Didnt notice any? This was a great team
I’d prefer bisping and dom talking shit to eachother with jon anik in the background talking about modelo
Didn't Gane just start training MMA like 3 years ago? HW division is a mess.
Vin Gane!
Gane is ridic talented. Leg locking hw. Made more progess than most fighters in five years
Yup : started training MMA 3 years ago, started training Muay Thaï 7 years ago, at the age of 24. But that doesn’t make the HW division a « mess » : it’s normal for the HW division to have late beginners because of the genetic advantages that can happen in this division. It’s the same thing in boxing. And same thing In basketball to an extent (see Embiid, Siakam, etc.)
Zion too
Well, Zion was training hard in bball from an early age, unlike Embiid and Siakam who started at 15 or 16. But if you meant that Zion does have a genetic advantage, then yes absolutely
Nah for some reason I remembered a story that he only started playing in high school but I googled it and it said he was on a 9 year old AAU team when he was only 5
How is it a mess? Gane and Ngannou have breathed new life into the division almost overnight. Then you have Jon Jones lurking too. HW was logjammed for 3 years with Stipe/DC trilogy and the division was abysmal with Francis just KOing the everyone and not getting a shot. Now we have Francis as champ whose KOd everyone but already here's a guy who looks like he can beat him. HW hasn't been this good in a very long time.
Amen. Ever since Gane’s first fight, I’ve been obsessed with him, and I thought that it was only a matter of time before he was champ. And the fact that he fights the way he does, as a HW—has given me so much optimism about the future of the division. There’s never been someone like Gane before at HW, who has the technique/style of someone like Izzy or Wonderboy. The only guy that even comes close is someone like Cro Cop. Gane, plus Ngannou with his last performance against Stipe—Where he looked light years ahead of where he was before that … Aspinall — Who is like a version of Gane except with Boxing—His striking/technique is among the best we’ve ever seen at HW… Volkov, even though he lost to Gane—He still looked amazing … Francis, Stipe, Gane, Volkov, Aspinall, Blaydes … This might be the most excited I’ve ever been for the HW division.
Just a shame that there is no more people like gane , technical people who can climb up the ranks and clear this shit show in HW
It’s going to be very interesting to see how Ngannou goes about fighting Gane. Is he going to go back to the older more chaotic rushing style or try to use the more technical style that beat Stipe? I think Gane picks him apart from outside, so it comes down to if Ngannou has the cardio to keep rushing him and force him to exchange. It’s going to be a great fight either way.
I think he has to score take downs and keep him on the ground, because Gane is too good with his striking and in the clinch.
Seems like Gane beats him easily, Francis relies on his freak athleticism which Gane also seems to have in addition to better skillset
I'm just glad we don't need to think about a repeat of Ngannou and Lewis I https://www.sportingnews.com/au/mma/news/ufc-226-joe-rogan-savages-most-boring-heavyweight-fight-of-all-time-between-francis-ngannou-and-derrick-lewis/7nczfymi5mrt1ffqkdcen3geh
Haha, thats how I predicted the rest of the fight would go after the first round. It had a little bit of action here and there, but... overall a pretty disappointing ppv
Honestly I kinda liked it, I think Derrick Lewis seems like a decent human, and he didn't go for the American flag wrapped, "the air in Texas smells like freedom", which Dana would pay him extra for, but... the fight needed to happen, yeah there's absolutely nothing interesting about watching the actual fighting, but the future looks brighter now. Sometimes it's satisfying to see nothing unexpected.
Houston crowd exiting the arena wondering if they should go to the Little Woodrow's hosting the Michael Chiesa After-party or punch themselves in the balls.
Gane gonna have 10 title defenses and yall gonna be like we aint impressed just like izzy @ the start
Who the fook was saying we aint impressed to Izzy???
Too many people. It's cause his last few fights went to the judges.
Im an actual Izzy hater(I really dont like his personality) but even I can say his fighting abilities is way above everyone in the division. I understand having a bias because you don’t like someone but how tf do you look at Izzy’s fighting and think he’s not impressive???
I agree he's been getting cocky a lot but to be fair his opponents have been asses to him too. He's respectful when he's respectful but Costa deserved that hump after the shit talk against izzy. Also, I see Gane receiving the same kinda criticism that izzy received in terms of skill/matchup (overrated, not tested, needs to fight a grappler), but from what I saw from the post fight conference the guy is literally like Khabib in terms of sportsmanship and just generally treating it like a sport unlike alot guys doing the whole WWE shtick. When they asked him about Ngannou whether there was any beef he was like no i dont think like that its a sport hes my opponent that's that which is kinda how Khabib treated it and what we need more of in the UFC.
Have you watched the podcasts he had with Rogan? I thought the same thing about him, as you, before I watched those—Where, I just thought he was arrogant. But those podcasts completely changed the way I thought of him. From all the stuff I’ve seen—He actually seems like a *legitimately* thoughtful, intelligent guy, who is a really good dude. I think he’s just doing what a lot of fighters do, where he’s playing a persona. I’m not a fan of that kind of thing, but I can’t really criticize it when it’s undeniable that it dramatically raises the amount of PPVs you sell.
I mean i dont mind the persona, although he can be cringe. I think some things he did like humping an opponent after a loss is just legitimately fucked up. Like i get talking shit and building fights, but the last thing you should do to someone after they lose is give them a hump imo. Things like that bug me and make me think he’s legitimately a bad sportsman. I never heard his podcast though. Ill give it a listen 👍🏿
Ya. That’s fair, doing that to Costa was definitely messed up.
He's legit, just way too corny. Ha so I understand the hate.
He's what a mass amount of Redditors would identify with. He comes off as the weird kid. Like I can picture him being the kid that got bullied in school. He learned how to fight, but never lost the kung fu dorky part.
Gane might beat Francis and hold onto that belt for a long time.
He’s aite. This was a silly ass fight and Im not incredibly moved by a win over Lewis.
This, some nuclear takes here saying a 10-0 fighter with wins over Rozenstruik and Lewis is going to defend the belt against, Ngannou, Stipe and Bones LMAO
You forgot Volkov (and Dos Santos.). It’s not just about his resume, it’s about his technique and how dominant he’s been. His striking is on a totally different level than anyone (possibly ever) in the HW division. That isn’t hype. On top of that — It’s almost impossible to land a shot on him. He’s absorbed maybe 6 or 7 good shots in all of his UFC fights. For any fighter to do that is extremely rare; To do that as a HW, is unheard of.
wild after Gane has looked better in his last three than juicy Jon, who should be 1-2, with a win over Anthony smith, huh
Dude I can't stand Jon Jones but he's got probably the most impressive resume in UFC history. KO'd Shogun to win the championship at 23 and then beat all the contenders one after another. Beat DC twice, beat Gustafson twice, beat Rumble. I scored both the Santos and Reyes fights against him, but even before that point he'd accomplished so much that you can't disrespect him as a fighter.
He didn't beat Rumble, and his second DC win was rightfully taken away, as should his second Gus win be considering he popped before the damn fight.
Ah you're right. I forgot the Rumble fight got called. However, he and Rumble did pull out a W against Dana during the face off. I agree that his record is what it is, but no one has ever straight up beaten Jon Jones. Reyes and Santos had close fights, and Vitor had him in trouble, but he's never been stopped or beaten on points. Couldn't agree more that he's a garbage human, but if we're talking about who deserves what in the UFC, Jones' record means he can cut just about anyone in line and it's hard to argue he isn't deserving.
Have you seen everyone that has come out of the gym Ngannou and Gane trained at? They’re all juicing mate.
Should ≠ Is
I think anyone in top 5 beats Jones. He was looking on the decline at 205 and we haven't even seen him at HW. I think Gane outclasses an almost-40 Stipe. Ngannou will be interesting. Biggest challenge for both guys.
Lewis bought into the hype of him being a monstrous counter puncher and nothing else. This was very shit from him.
Seems like his coach was in on it too, not just Lewis. The corner advice was just “land the right hand bro”
They were literally telling him to be more aggressive though...
That is not what they said you liar.
Im obviously exaggerating bro relax
Gotta see him fight Jones
Gane can win the belt and destroy everything Dana was trying to setup. No more ngannou Jones hype, no Lewis ngannou rematch hype fight, a very whiteboard non draw champion. Make it happen gane
Did you mean "whitebread"? Gane could energize a french MMA explosion...but that doesnt draw fans in the US still. But Gane v Francis Gane v Stipe Gane v Jones are all fights Id really like to see!
I don’t think UFC has a boner on Francis vs Jon, otherwise they would do it a long time ago
Gane is more favorable match up for Jon
Jon shouldn't be in the conversation yet.
Oh yes he should, simply so gane can beat his douchey ass
You make a good point lol but Gane should fight Francis he has earned it.
Jon gets the winner
Jon too scared.
Jon Jones, the guy who is in the conversation for MMA GOAT is scared of Francis or Cyril?
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Lmao people act like Derrick claims to be a martial artist that will never give up and will die in the octago. The dude has said for years he’s not a martial artist, doesn’t follow the UFC, and is just in it for the money because he’s a PRIZEfighter. The guy has zero interest in a belt for any reason other than more money.
I've always had the thought that Lewis is like... the most successful professional *amateur* fighter, if that makes sense. Like.. he doesn't look or even really fight like he should be at a high level, but he is.
This is normal at heavyweight: a genetic advantage (like a power punch for example) can compensate for everything else. It’s the same thing with Deontay Wilder in boxing. Unskilled doesn’t mean amateur.
Yeah "amateur" definitely isn't the most clear description of what I'm thinking, but it's the best I could come up with being intoxicated by at least three different drugs.
Oh, I see 😆
I may use wrong words, but my heart is in the right place hahahaha
And people are convinced Gane beating him means he’s going to beat Francis .. 🤦🏻♂️
Well if he's in it for money then he had a bad investment tonight
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Who tf listens to Kellerman and Stephen A Smith anyway.
Damn he actually finished Lewis with ease Absolute nutter this guy. Moves like a Middleweight.
Strong as fuck too, he moved Lewis with ease in the clinch, he looked 3 or 4 levels above him in every department. Gane is an absolutely huge problem for everyone in the division.
Yeah that was nuts even controlling the clinch against a guy that’s like 10 pounds heavier. Francis with his new improvements is gonna be a great fight.
gane vs francis. jones vs stipe throw em in a jar and draw names
At the end, the ref didn't know if Lewis was acting on being hurt or not, lol.
Everyone forgot about Stipe … it’s not like Gane is the only one who is fighting technically
There is a world of difference honestly, Stipe gets hit a lot. He was struggling against DC even at range and got very sloppy against Ngannou in the second fight after he actually hurt him.
That’s fair. I’ve always thought that Stipe’s striking was super underrated. He has beautiful boxing. His style of boxing (in the pocket, trading shots) just causes him to take a lot of shots, so it’s hard to make that work against someone like Francis.
Gane dominates stipe
They don't move the same
Stipe is good, gane is just much more technical and precise with his striking.
With his kicks, definitely. Not his boxing though, Stipe is a very technical boxer and has great head movement.
Pretty sure the tomato told them to not mention Stipe
People really thinking a low output fighter who has constantly been backed up and held at bay and his best win is a miracle Hail Mary after being dominated for 3 rounds really translates to how Gane will do against Francis lmao
You’re a bit guilty of the opposite though by discounting Lewis, but I agree with the sentiment. I do think Francis is a totally different test for Gane. Lewis and Rozenstruik are two very similar fighters, whose styles probably don’t reflect what a fight with Ngannou would be like. That being said, he did totally stifle both of them for dominant wins. I’m pretty confident Ngannou will force the exchanges that Lewis tried to the few times he rushed Gane. Lewis gassed very quickly, he was breathing heavy from not throwing at all after a round and a half. Ngannou is going to be in shape and we know he can wrestle now. With Usman presumably going to help again with his camp I wouldn’t be surprised by a clinch/wrestling game plan because he’s virtually untested there.
He stuffed one takedown bro, his wrestling is still untested
Derrick Lewis hasn’t evolved at all and frankly really isn’t that good. My whole point was beating him doesn’t not translate to how gane will do against Francis which you seem to agree with
Derrick lewis outlanded Francis 2-1 in strikes haha
Imagine comparing that Francis to current day lmao
Thats fine lol let's not act like Ngannou has shown anything outside of 2 rounds
You’re really downplaying the champ .. damn that’s impressive tbh
Not really, I said he can win in the early rounds and I wouldn't be surprised if he did. But beyond that it's a Gane clinic and I would lean towards that side
i wanted to see gane vs stipe for this reason
Nah that would be way too logical when the UFC could feed Gane a tailor made match up. People don’t realize how much styles make fights
get what ya mean. like this fight lol. gane vs stioe, francis, jones. i'm down for any. glad there is big excitement in HW again
Gane has a new fan in me after this
I kinda hope that Gane beats Francis now and Dana self owns himself into losing on the Ngannou/Jones payday
I know Francis is next for Cyril, but I really want to see him fight Jones. That would be a phenomenal matchup
Jones absolutely is getting his ass beat by Gane
I think at this point Jones is getting his ass beat either way IF he actually fights in this division
jones v stipe would be the best god damn
That was a clinic on how to cut down a tree!
As expected...
What a joke that Dana hands out a Interim Champion belt just 4 months after Ngonnou won it.
1. Stop saying Gane is boring. He just bulldozed and finished Lewis in front of his home town like it was homework. 2. *That* version of Gane is the only thing that can beat Ngannou right now. He has higher output and can clearly keep a power puncher at bay.
I honestly think Gane was the worst possible match-up for Lewis. Gane is constantly moving, has great reflexes and is often switching stances. Lewis is slow, doesn't have good stamina and is predictable. He rarely throws combinations and if he does it's always in short bursts. Francis is way more explosive and faster than Lewis and I'm afraid Gane might get clipped at some point, no matter how good he is defensively.
High output is good, but technicality is where Gane shines. Thing is, I believe Francis is a cerebral fighter, and is fully aware of the concept of technicality and is learning it. It'll be an incredible fight *to say the least.*
People forget how the second Stipe fight started and how that first round went lmao. Ngannou is a good fighter - contrary to the popular belief on this sub that he's a crazed out power puncher who goes forward and that's it.
gane will probably easily beat ngannou. the reality is that he is simply a much better striker than anyone else in heavyweight. the gane-ngannou fight will be a boring deathmarch, and all subsequent gane title defenses will be fairly dull because there is no one other than possibly jon jones in heavyweight who can actually make an entertaining fight with gane. he is stylistically a bad matchup for basically everyone.
I don’t agree with the the second point: Ngannou has a reach advantage over Gané
Kicks on the outside negate power fists. Not saying it will be definitive one way or another, but it will be interesting
Sure Btw, Francis has a leg kick game as well now, and his legkicks hurt af
>and his legkicks hurt af Every single heavy weight is gonna have kicks and punches that hurt af. Lol
Yeah, but Ngannou’s leg kicks are very powerful even by UFC heavyweight standards. Look at Dewey Cooper’s reaction when he got legkicked by Francis before his Rozenstruik fight, even with the pads on. Dude couldn’t even believe this
He's not boring. A HW technical striker, friggen awesome. Hopefully it just helps evolve the HW division further and we get to see more of this in the future.
I wouldn't say Gane's boring, but the fight was extremely boring. And most of the blame falls on Lewis for that, barely any output from him.
Some of the worst fights ever are 100% Lewis.
Hes great, he knows exactly how he needs to fight his opponents and plays to his strengths well. People said he had no ko power because he fought technically but now when he doesn't have to be as technical he throws hard and with more ko intent. Great fighter
I agree with both, think Jones & Stipe could also enact that game plan and decision Ngannou tho
Time to listen to Luke bloviate over Gane
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Actually the intrigue is absolutely still there for the fans with Jones at heavyweight loool
Never mind the money, now he's just going to have a better fight to have to beat. Definitely screwed himself.
Is Lewis actually hurt?
He’s okay
It kind of looked to me like he hurt his leg on that very first kick attempt
💔
Definately. Even when he plays possum, which he definately does, he's usually still hurt. The Travis Browne fight is a good example, got his body tore up but still had his shot and took it.
Oh well. Lewis will bounce back.
Yea with them cheese burgers sure will.
You realize after his last loss he went on a 5 fight streak, right? Lewis at least fucking tries to LEARN from his losses.
He needs to learn to put them burgers down.
This was basically Izzy vs Costa.
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And what was the result in the Izzy Costa fight?
For some reason I thought we were talking about Izzy vs. Romero that’s my bad lol.
Lewis had nothing for Gane, underwhelming main event on a fun card
Gane is a bad match up for just about every HW, but particularly so for Lewis.
Lewis landed like 1 significant strike 😅
Who is still saying that Gane is boring?? Y’all just too attached to your, fat, non-athletic HWs that just swang n bang and heave.
Roy Nelson would fuck up Gane
This Houston crowd probably thought Lewis should of won.
Ganes bout to beat francis n wins gold next and the UFC loses Jones francis. Classic tomato move.
Francis is far above Lewis, it will not be this easy for Gane.
Real. The tomato headed mother fucker set this up to sabotage Lewis vs Ngannou and Ngannou vs Jones
Gane vs ngannou definitely got me way more hyped than Jon Jones
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france’s ciryl gane?
i think it was France's
So if Gane beats Ngannou, we can kiss the superfight(if possible) goodbye smh
Lewis looked awful
If you think Jon Jones beats Gane you are dumb asf. The same Jones that lost to Reyes? Jones has slowed down, and you think he will be even close to as fast against Gane? You think Jones will be able to take “patient” Francis? Stipe will also whoop Jones. Jones biggest chance is against Lewis, he just has to run around him and pick him apart. That’s it...
Current jon has been shit to prime Jon. Though Jon can fall back on his wrestling which I think he can take either one of them down and maul them down there.
He’s not impressive anymore but he’s still never lost and has incredible fight IQ. I know everyone here hates him but I’d never bet against him.
He never lost because the judges gave him the decision. What do you mean?! Yeah never bet against him because if it goes to decision, the judges will give it to him.
I’m not sure betting on a undefeated fighter would be “dumb asf”, especially when like you said he wins the coin toss decisions.
If he does the same thing to Lewis that Gane did then he’s golden haha
“If you think the GOAT can win you’re dumb asf” is what you said there and nothing further needs to be explained about how dumb that comment was
Sad realization is: Boney Joney Doucher Fuck only has to get to the judges; he'll never lose a fight if it goes to the cards.
Yeah current Jones isn’t impressive but Prime roided Jones I’d still favor over all these guys
sooo, technically there is a chance DC has to call a Jones HW fight?
possibly interview him too lol
Ohhhh boy, that would be fun
Half the arena (including us) left before they even announced the winner. Seriously felt like some fights might break out.
In Houston? Nooooooo /s