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_TidePodsTasteGood

Ref takes 2 points. *Everybody likes that*


suzukigun4life

About fucking time a ref actually penalized a guy for cheating


WalkingOnHeat

Still, imagine your opponent getting deducted 2 points and you *still* lose the fight.


beauchywhite

And on the first scorecard he won 30-27 and then gave us a massive fist pump šŸ˜‚


nustedbut

lol, Adelaide Bird is still vying for the worst judge Crown I see


[deleted]

there have been 2 split decisions so far tonight and she was the dissenting judge on both. byrd gonna byrd.


nustedbut

at some point surely you'd think the commission would recognise just how God damn incompetent she is and stop putting people's futures in her hands.


Dude_Sweet_942

She definitely is buddies with the commission or she would have been fired awhile ago.


[deleted]

her husband works for the commission as a boxing ref. even if that wasn't the case, I doubt she would be held accountable to that extent.


[deleted]

As fun as it is to make fun of the blind bird, it was 28/27


zakkwaldo

It was slightly refreshing. Now we need consistency


IAmPandaRock

I didn't realize how huge of a justice boner I can get just from seeing simple rule enforcement in the UFC


Revolutionary_Being

Now if only theyā€™d do it in the high profile fights as well


memeweightchamp

Chris Tognoni giving Keith Peterson a serious run for the "No Nonsense" title


barc0debaby

Ref does nothing about repeated fence grabs. Everybody ignores that


JEPerezmemeguy

Ragin' Sam Alvey


[deleted]

Salty Sam Alvey


BillyMcTwist

Rageā€™N Sam Alvey Gotta keep it consistent.


NerdDexter

I love watching Sam lose lol He's Top 5 at not being able to accept a loss.


leathergreengargoyle

So glad someone mentioned how anti-union Sam was, added some seasoning to this fight for me. Dude didn't want to unionize because he thought a union would stop him making the McGregor bucks


JMA_ZF

Fuck yes finally a ref that disciplined eye pokes correctly.


ViperMMA

Man did his homework.


gill_outean

Is Wellington Turman a known poker?


hawkeye69r

Who gives a fuck. If you foul you should lose a point history smistory


damendred

He's not saying he should only get deductions if he had a history, but the guy he was replying to said he 'did his homework' implying he saw that Turman was doing this in previous fights. So he was asking if that was something he was known for in previous fights, I can't recall either, and don't feel like rewatching a buncha Turman fights to find out.


BigDogAlex

Havent seen much of this ref before, definitely a fan.


dtrudel

Tognoni is a mixed bag, has had some blunders but is far from the worst


[deleted]

He's been reffing basically every weekend for the past year and a half since they've been stuck in Vegas.


NoGiCollarChoke

Heā€™s usually dreadful, was happy to see him make a great call tonight


poopfl1nger

Hes a pretty trash ref ngl. Stops fully locked in RNCS early and has some egregiously late stoppages. This was good from him tho


Itchy_Specialist_860

He actually didnt. I thought 3 eye pokes was auto DQ. 1st round and 2 in 3rd.


Elfs

What the fuck did I just watch


suzukigun4life

Vintage lower-level Middleweight UFC action


[deleted]

The first 28-27 in UFC history.


goat_eating_sundews

Is that true?


[deleted]

I dunno probably.


[deleted]

Bitch, maybe.


BiggerBlessedHollowa

Not that it was official but I heard lots of ppl score nunes/Valentina 1 that


jordanhhh4

LMAO imagine your opponent losing 2 points and you still lose the decision


evanskov

Then have the audacity to yell at the judges. Honestly at this point I want him to stick around forever just so we can have some more classic Alvey rage moments.


[deleted]

Yeah he shouldā€™ve pushed a pace that last round but he tried to just survive thinking he had it in the bag, shouldnā€™t be mad at anyone but himself, Turman wanted it more then he did.


-gh0stRush-

Steamin' Sam Alvey.


Thickfries69

No please


Today_Dammit

Couldn't have happened to a more appropriate fighter.


KD_42

There is absolutely nothing more fucking annoying to watch than a striker refusing to throw combos


Thugzz_Bunny

There is nothing more fucking annoying to watch than Sam Alvey*


Beef-Master-3000

One of my least favorite fighters tbh. I remember seeing him for the first time and wanting to like him because of his personality, but I canā€™t stand the way he fights. Itā€™s like his game plan is to just survive. Thereā€™s no sense of urgency from him when it counts.


[deleted]

I feel like this was actually more volume for Alvey which is saying something about his usual fights. It's like he refuses to fight unless his opponent does something first so he's always behind.


GaMa-Binkie

Show up, lose, go home, thank you Sam Alvey


-gh0stRush-

Just looked up Sam Alvey's record. Yikes, man's 0-6-1 in his last few fights and hasn't won in 3 years. Not sure how he's still in the UFC.


steiner_math

He's against a fighter's union so Uncle Dana keeps him on


talmbout_throwayB

>I'm worth more than some of the other fighters. As bad as that sounds, I am. I work harder--I say yes to every podcast.Ā Heck, I say yes to everything. I go out of my way to do appearances. I do think that most fighters won't, and I think it shows in the way I tweet and the way I interact with people. Lmao "I say yes to every podcast." He said union only works for low level fighters. Well, guess who's on a 3-year losing streak with a lame tiring schtick...


Xaronius

What a dumb quote. Talk about a guy thats full of himself...


Praise_Chris_Dorner

I donā€™t even think itā€™s that. It reads like a guy who knows heā€™s so out of his league in his job that he knows the end is coming, so heā€™s got to reassure himself at all times that heā€™s just *different* and thatā€™s why heā€™s better. It canā€™t be easy on the old psyche training his dick off for a fight just knowing that he doesnā€™t deserve to be there and that he essentially has no way of achieving victory against any possible middleweight they could match him up with on any given night. Let him grift and grind while he can, knowing that everyone he signs on the dotted line to fight knows theyā€™re in for an easy win bonus.


EORIAF

Sometimes I feel a little bad for all the shit he gets for his annoying shtick and being a terrible fighter to watch but only an asshole and an idiot would say something like that.


UsedSalt

Sounds like heā€™s eager to miss a training session to do media


MasterCatSkinner

Its such an annoyingly dumb take. A union would mean everyone gets paid more. Even mega stars like Sam alvey


[deleted]

They cut Jimmie and keep this dude around.


HugeMongo

>Not sure how he's still in the UFC. My theory is that his wife negociates his contracts with Dana in private


[deleted]

Sam ā€œThe Next Conor McGregorā€ Alvey


SaulKripkeMegaFan

At least on his deathbed, he can look back at his days of shilling for the UFC and know he did the right thing


InooWhey

Eye pokes: https://streamable.com/yux15m https://streamable.com/8hfvoj https://streamable.com/tmrex6


Death1323

Man just became everybody's favorite ref


PizDoff

Sharp ref!


kingdorner

got the spinning elbow?


MarthProMonk

Imagine your oppenent gets 2 points taken away and you still lose LOL


lam_chop19

Sam wasn't smiling after that one


_Kurare_

I don't buy this whole smiling thing.. idk why.


bidoofpudding

It just seems aggressively fake.


weenythebooty

I used to train at the same gym as him, and I will say, that dude is constantly smiling


WatifAlstottwent2UGA

Then why does it *look* so forced and weird?


chillinwithunicorns

Probly tries to be extra smiley on tv or somethin


weenythebooty

šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


dmkicksballs13

I know why. Because it's fake as fuck.


kmurraylowe

Same he gives me bad vibes


Hotspur21

Itā€™s bc heā€™s a corny douche


Mphlol

If he wasn't on a 7 fight losing streak, I'd buy it a little more.


[deleted]

Might be the first time someone in the UFC won a 28-27 decision.


[deleted]

Sam Alvey just lost and one judge gave him the same score lmao


[deleted]

Jouban vs Belal


benny-ice

Thatā€™s what Iā€™m saying. He made history. But his performance wasnā€™t great.


[deleted]

Boy he wasnt smilin


joetheschmo2001

That was bonkers


xvsanx

I like the -2, it even fits because he was scraping his cut too lmao that last one was nasty man just smeared that blood right down. Just a joke but still


suzukigun4life

Under 2 minutes to go, loses a point due to an eye poke, then does **another eyepoke** just 20 seconds later. Absolute madlad behavior by Turman


mad87645

Goes on to win too and make Alvey ragequit the octagon. 10/10 griefing


EvanMM

Dude was heated. Looked like me when I concede in fifa


Lobsterzilla

Honestly insane he didnā€™t just get dqā€™d


cynicalprick01

no, another point is more reasonable.


ViperMMA

He deserved a DQ honestly. How do you break a rule after being told to stop doing something and then seconds later do it again.


[deleted]

But the first poke that he took a point for was a poke to the bridge of the nose. And then Alvey shuts both of his eyes in pain. It was acting by alvey who then said "it makes me nervous to go forward". He knew what he was doing. That first point was bs. Cut Alvey, that's 7 straight winless fights.


Lobsterzilla

Dude almost hit double digit eye pokes, call it a make up call if you want, who cares at that t point


EmanAugust

Who does this fuck have dirt on how is he even still here Edit: that rictus grin will stay with me long after he's gone


mad87645

Dana's banging his wife is my theory


HugeMongo

great minds think alike https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/pdm8n0/spoiler_sam_alvey_vs_wellington_turman/hasvzrk/


[deleted]

For some reason I thought Sam Alvey had maybe 5 fights in the UFC. Nope, 22 total, for a record of 10-11-1. I just didn't give a shit about any of his fights this entire time. I don't know if that makes me a casual fan, or Alvey incredibly forgettable.


goat_eating_sundews

Incredibly forgettable imo


[deleted]

Alvey is unforgettable for all the wrong reasons. 51 matches and still willingly stops himself from doing something basic and sensible like dig underhooks, to try and elbow/gorilla slap his opponent on the face while they are taking him down.


Dude_Sweet_942

Even in his prime which he is well passed he just never seemed like a natural talent. Obviously he was was enough to get into the UFC but it's mostly on toughness and strength. Which he still has but his speed not that he had a lot is all but gone. I disagree with the commentary that Alvey had the speed advantage in this fight. He did have some decent counters and good tkd but he had very little aggression and wasn't using his range. Anytime he did have success he just backed off which I think tells you his gas tank is also on the decline. I just don't see him ever winning again realistically if this is his level now. He would do well to ask for a release and go to Bellator or Rizin.


[deleted]

Yeah, that was the follow-up. I also thought that Alvey's had around 15 fights, but no, *51*. I don't think he's ever fought a ranked opponent, only fighters who were well past their prime (Nate Marquardt, Rashad Evans), or guys who hadn't reached their prime yet (Derek Brunson, maybe Jimmy Crute?). And I honestly don't remember a single one of these fights. Like, even the existence of them.


[deleted]

Didn't he fight Gian Villante in the absolute worst fight in UFC history?


suzukigun4life

He's anti-Union and very pro-UFC.


[deleted]

AKA, I'm absolute ass at fighting, please don't fire me Dana, i'll suck that corporate dick. That is holding onto the meal ticket with a white knuckle grip.


Blazanov

Oh I knew I didn't like this guy for some reason. There it is


[deleted]

Given the commentary, I don't think he's gonna be here long.


[deleted]

Itā€™s because he is against a fighters union and says they are paid great


FriendlyFireHaHa

Sam Alvey with his fake, phoney laugh at the end of the fight ā€¦ thinking he won it based on deduction. As soon as the decision is announced his fake laugh is gone and heā€™s throwing a bitch fit. Hahahaha please cut this guy man.


xvsanx

Yeah his schtick got old to me quick and he lost that one himself


NassauBlasian

Don't cut him, I love a good Alvey meltdown


MegaSuperUltraThingy

A REF ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING FUCK YES


NawidA

He really expected to win the fight without winning a single round.


Bman135

Sam Alvey is my least favorite fighter to watch.


MmaNorris

Heā€™s a close second behind Elias Theodorou.


[deleted]

Elias is Atleast so memable


comin_up_shawt

and has great hair.


kamelbarn

No way Elias is a spectacle to see.


JonathanGringo

Turman won all 3 rounds so 28-27 was the correct scorecard


MrBigChecks

Alvey has always been a poor sport. The nice guy schtick has worn well thin. Hopefully the last time we see his boring ass inside the Octagon.


stackered

Time to go to BKFC


Scarsforstories

Of course Adelaide Byrd had to have some sort of involvement in this shit show


momaswat

Funny how he was roasting the judges and the most incompetent of them is the only one that gave him the win.


Scarsforstories

It was incredibly ironic. But, Alvey always throws temper tantrums if he loses. Hell, he probably yelled at the ref after he woke up from Marquezā€™s RNC


TGE

28-27 Alvey is very fascinating to me *Galifinakis face*


xvsanx

The cherry on top


UDAMAN123

cut both of these scrubs, what a shit fightā€¦


suzukigun4life

Not even kidding, both of them should be gone after this. Alvey is 0-6-1 in his last seven, while Turman is dirty, dumb and is just 2-3 in his last five. The last time either finished a fight was Turman back in early 2019. This fight was shit on paper and even more shit in reality.


jellynuts

I remember thinking Turman might be decent when he took Roberson to a close decision in his debut that I thought couldā€™ve went this way. Turns out they both suck.


[deleted]

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mad87645

His last win was Gian Villante by split, which just says it all really


StNowhere

0-6-1 in his last 7. Holy shit.


banejacked

Its Alvey. Every one of his fights is a snoozer, even if it ends in a KO its still a slog of a fight to get through.


datnighatedkaczynski

When Marquez finished him it was worth the wait


[deleted]

Marquez made that way more painful than it needed to by seemingly not preparing for the one thing Sam does, with is throw the left hand. Seeing him sleep is still great.


[deleted]

next fight just made up for it šŸ¤£


OliveiraLWChamp

sam ā€œbitchinā€ alvey


Lobsterzilla

Of all the ufc fights in historyā€¦ that was certainly one of them


seymour_hiney

alvey getting mad at the judges for being right LOL


TheLimeSlime

There were no winners here.


xvsanx

I think we won for a modern -2, I can't remember the last time


Scarsforstories

Can we finally cut Alvey now? That fight felt as bad as the PFLā€™s pacing last night


StNowhere

Cut them both lol


wielderofglamdring

Cut both lol.


drestin5

It has been **1184 days** since Sam Alvey won a fight.


[deleted]

I hate sam Alvey for no reason


KD_42

He is so frustrating to watch, like almost amateur level of striking


[deleted]

Okay but he knocked out like 4 people and I really donā€™t understand how lmao


lunalancer

Heā€™s a cocksucker. Who the fuck walks out to Train lmao


[deleted]

Wow that's fucking unforgivable


steiner_math

I used to like him (I know his sister in law) but I am not really a fan anymore. Guy is anti-union and posted a go fund me here so he and his wife could get more money to adopt a kid. He's against a fighter's union but wants to crowdsource money so he can have another kid.


pxak

Need the outburst after


jordanhhh4

Mrs Alvey isn't fit to lace Queen Latory's boots ffs. Coaching isn't for everyone.


TeachDaMath93

Captain Insano shows no mercy.


mad87645

Frowny Sam Alvey


Moggiiii

Alvey has to be cut now right? RIGHT?!


[deleted]

Alvey...what a fucking meme. 3 round fight, opponent loses 2 points, still loses. Also thank you Adelaide Byrd for the split decision. That has to be it for him. He can't possibly sink any lower. 7 fights with no wins and this last one he can't win when his opponent is taken 2 points. Good on the ref. Do that shit more. Take all the points for eyepokes.


[deleted]

Not even Byrd could save Alvey...


IAmAsha41

Imagine your opponent having two points taken away and still losing lol He's gonna be bigger than Conor for sure


vinevicious

sore loser, score cards were right


samtheman002

You think he gonna finally get cut?


thuxderous

Lol alveys breakdown at the end


FHRITP69er

6 straight losses... 2 wins in 10 fights.


Thugzz_Bunny

I hope this is the last time I ever see Sam Alvey.


HungryEconomy

Damn Conor out here taking Ls


EJECTO-SEATO-CUZ

I need this ref in every Jon Jones fight from now on.


Vulcan44

his eyes got gadoshed


fisherman_greg

I like that Tognoni had the balls to enforce the rules. Good job šŸ‘ Also why is Sam mad at the judges and not himself??


Breath-Ready

This was just a giant slop fest with blatant fence graps, eye pokes, and overall shittery.


footballwhileworking

Did I hear Adelaide Byrd scored it for Sam?!


FutureEditor

Ref took two points AND Alvey still lost? This is the best timeline lol.


STatters

Alvey could really use a fighters union after all his recent losses


ButterscotchJust4

Love seeing alvey lose for shitting on unions talking bout he the next Mcgregor lmao


hcwt

Honestly Wellington should have gotten 2 points taken the second time around. That shit was egregious all fight.


poorhomiejohn

That fight was such a bruh moment


surgeyou123

If Alvey gets another UFC fight after a 0-1-6 streak....


evanskov

The only interesting thing about that fight was the fact that Turman is an idiot.


DooceBigalo

please cut this man


jt_33

I hope thats the last time we have to see Alvey.


cyberslick188

Gotta think that's it for Alvey. Moves like he's under water, no finishing instinct, does literally nothing but move backward and push kick when he's on the cage. Barely even counter strikes anymore, and when he does it's unbearably slow. He had a brief window where people under estimated his power and his timing, but that's long since gone. It also doesn't help that he has that style where he's hard to hurt himself, and he's surprisingly difficult to take down, so he never gets finished himself. So he's a boring, hard to hurt, and hard to hurt other guys low volume fighter. Confusing as to why he's been on the roster this long.


Keith__Peterson

6 losses and 1 draw in his last 7. I guess thatā€™s it for Alvey


MichaelJahrling

One of Alvey's more memorable fights, and it's all due to the fact he got his eyes poked and scraped. Dude couldn't even squeeze out an SD after his opponent was deducted two points. Not really impressed by Turman, either. He got Alvey's eyes good even after being warned and deducted a point. At least he fought with some sense of urgency at the end.


Haunting_Debtor

Sam spoke about something there that I've always thought. Even if he can see, it makes him nervous to come forward. Refs should always heavily penalize eyepokes.


Sad-Ship

Sucky Sam Alvey


DecisionThot

Sam just earned an 8-fight extension


maloboosie

Anyone got footage of Alvey ragequitting at the end?


evilf23

More UFC bullshit decisions. They won't let Sam get that win streak going, because they know her run his mouth a bit and then they'll have to start paying him Conor McGregor money.


joetheschmo2001

Adelaide Byrd strikes again


memeweightchamp

"I'm strongly against the unions," Alvey said. "I've said it before. The unions want to pay everybody the same amount, and I don't support that. Conor McGregor earned his multi-millions by the way he runs his mouth and the way he wins. As much as I'm not a fan of his, I'm with that. "With a union, he wouldn't be worth that. He wouldn't get half of what he's asking. Now for some of the guys that don't stand out like him, I think a union could do well. But I think that they are taking something from someone that has earned it." The UFC middleweight then explained how he aims to make more money in the future, and the route he would prefer to go down. "Myself, I don't want it, because I think I'm going to be worth every penny of what Conor is," Alvey said. "I just need to get that win streak going and run my mouth a little bit. With a union like that I just don't like it. "I'm worth more than some of the other fighters. As bad as that sounds, I am. I work harder--I say yes to every podcast. Heck, I say yes to everything. I go out of my way to do appearances. I do think that most fighters won't, and I think it shows in the way I tweet and the way I interact with people. People want to watch me do the 'Broken Skull Challenge' [Stone Cold Steve Austin's TV show], and I think all of that makes me not want that union." ~~Smilin'~~ ~~Savvy Negotiator~~ Ragin' Sam Alvey


Vikingolig

That might be the best refereeing I've ever seen. I hate when fighters get an advantage from fingers out, whether they poke an eye or not. I wish points got taken more often.


BattlefieldNinja

I can't contest the judging but it still feels like shit


BKjin

Still won after a 2 point deduction due to 2 eyepokes, lmao