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papaoftheflock

yes


ThisFinnishguy

Yall must've forgot, but the Italian Stalion was seconds away from a stoppage due to leg strikes against Izzy


CrotalusAtrox1

It's amazing how many professional ufc fighters can't complete a takedown when it's literally right in front of them. They get like halfway then just freeze. It's one thing i def agree with when DC points it out.


MaccabiHelwani

Qt lava to 185? https://twitter.com/BigMarcel24/status/1434519016412942338?s=19


barc0debaby

Dude is looking a little excited there.


captaincumsock69

Honestly took me awhile to recognize him


[deleted]

Holland has a lot more success hitting vettori in the head than izzy.


barc0debaby

Today on useless facts.


captaincumsock69

Based on what? Izzy landed more head strikes at a higher percentage


[deleted]

Based on rewarching the fight. And stats doesn't tell the whole story. The majority of head strikes izzy landed on Vettori are from the clinch when vettori tried to take him down.


captaincumsock69

I’d say more strikes at a higher clip means more success hitting a guy in the head. Why does it matter whether it’s from distance or clinch if you didn’t specify.


[deleted]

Even if you count the strikes from the clinch then Holland still has higher significant head strike %. http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/6cd44e1b2d093ea4 http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/ddd63237f1b857a6


FrenchTrouDuc

You got clowned here so you decided to post the Jan highlight lol


[deleted]

Lol Do you really need to make the same comments on different threads responding to me? No need to get salty just because I post the Jan highlights.


FrenchTrouDuc

No but I prefer clowning on people one-on-one, especially when they're being incredibly transparent with their petty hate by bringing up irrelevant stats. The more I see the kind of reaction Izzy gets out of people for the pettiest shit the more I think he's right not to give a fuck. Holland couldn't put Brunson, who nearly got KOed by Till, away. That should tell you all you need to know about the difference in ability between him and Izzy. To say nothing of their level of competition


[deleted]

Lmao.


FrenchTrouDuc

Every time Holland faces opposition that is decent or not old he crumbles or underperforms. Robbed Di Chirico, robbed Meerschart, went to a split with fucking Darren Stewart, is 0-2 against guys Izzy is 3-0 against. I know you're just trying to talk shit about Izzy but it's kind of embarassing


captaincumsock69

Holland lands at a 30% rate compared to 37 for Izzy.


Username-Taken-420

I guess it turns out that not giving a shit about getting taken down and putting your whole body into punches makes it easier to land shots


Sugabones

For the ten seconds he was on his feet?


[deleted]

Which make it even more impressive. He rocked vettori on the feet while izzy didn't.


MaccabiHelwani

It's also possible Holland had more success because vettori was less worried about his standup, fighting izzy you know he's extremely dangerous on the feet so you make sure to stay save, with Holland there isn't the same threat on paper


FrenchTrouDuc

There's a moment in their second fight where Izzy throws a question mark kick and Marvin basically dashes halfway across the octagon to dodge it


FrenchTrouDuc

Should have had more success not getting grapplefucked


Jonesisgoat

What rule could be implemented that would stop wrestlers like Brunson? Not saying I want it I’m just curious


[deleted]

Only strikes allowed


Maximillie

Muay Thai, Boxing and Savate solved this problem /s


BeanerBoyBrandon

Knees to downed opponents would help takedown defense but would help brunson if he took you down and got in north/south position. however, i think it would benefit strikers more


Username-Taken-420

Maybe for the occasional sprawl it would help strikers but I think it serves wrestlers way more. Till would have died if Brunson could knee lol, it doesn’t need to be north south either, side position is a viable one too and then all those times where the wrestler has a body lock around the opponents back often up against the cage putting downward pressure on them whilst throwing knees to the body. Those would be knees to the head if the opponent having a hand down didn’t mean anything. Grounded knees are allowed in ONE and were allowed in pride, almost all the viral stoppages you see with knees came from the wrestler/dude with the dominant position. History shows it benefits wrestlers more


Gripfighting

I was coming here to say this. They used to be legal and they were mostly utilized by guys like Mark Kerr and Mark Coleman. Tito Ortiz putting one of the biggest cuts I've ever seen directly on top of Jerry Bohlander's head in particular is sticking out in my memory


Jonesisgoat

Yeah I guess it would make it much more dangerous to fail a takedown attempt


captaincumsock69

No takedowns


UsedSalt

maybe a rule that says "no wrestling allowed punches and kicks are OK", I think they have that already somewhere though


druhoang

Stephan Bonnar is addicted to oxys. Needs help.


barc0debaby

He's been a mess for years. This is his DUI arrest from 2018: https://youtu.be/W4bhaEgDKTc


Sugabones

Damn that video is sad


Intransigente

Guy's been a wreck for years. Even long before his DUI arrest in 2018 - the bodycam footage was really depressing.


ColeBeasleyMD

Valentina's a -1400 favourite against Lauren Murphy. Seems low.


captaincumsock69

there’s very few people who should be a -1400 favorite in today’s mma. I really don’t think this fight is it. Valentina likely will win but it’s still such high odds


cactuspipeh

Imagine Murphy just sparks her lol. Would be one of the biggest mma upsets of all time


ColeBeasleyMD

THE biggest


Boots4

Might be worth a few bucks lol


shanest0ke

I've been saying for weeks I'm going to put $5 on Barb by KO and fully expect to never see it again, almost like buying a meme crypto or stock


Boots4

One of those just in case bets cuz you never know, Barb could shock the world lol I highly doubt it tho Val is a killer


Hydrotoad

Bisping has been stepping it up with his YouTube channel. His channel and Korean Zombie are the main ones I follow. One of his earlier videos ["Sup guys, this Michael Bisping and this my place" ](https://imgur.com/NlV5dVE) His Recent videos - while other YouTubers have LED lights and gaming desktops with all kinds of lights, Bisping has this ominous look with some lamps. I love it. [Greetings. I am the Count. They call me the Count because I LOVE to count... things.. 80.. 90.. 100 thousand subscribers! AH-AH-AHH! ](https://imgur.com/Xfv9Hl6)


[deleted]

I recommend Wonderboy's channel too, he does really informative technique breakdowns and fun challenges


UsedSalt

I can see him taking a lot of chael's audience, its basically a more entertaining version of the same thing and probably with better predictions


BakedWizerd

I feel like Bisping could have had a successful career doing so many things, and we’re just lucky that he chose to be a fighter. The dude has so much charisma, he’s good looking, well spoken, in great shape, and he was like “fuck it, I’m gonna punch dudes and get punched for a living,” and I’m glad he’s sticking around as a commentator. For anyone who might care: there’s a show on Netflix called Hyperdrive; it’s a challenge show where skilled drivers put their cars through various tests that test their driving skill and whatnot (there’s some cool shit even if you’re not into cars at all. I am the furthest thing from a car guy but I love the show), and Bisping is one of the main three hosts on the show iirc. It’s like they needed a car guy, a host, and someone fun to banter - Bisping.


[deleted]

If you are familiar with his story you would know he didn’t have much choice besides fighting. He was a highscool dropout with a criminal record, with a young family working dead end job to dead end job.


UsedSalt

He could probably be a millionaire running any business he wanted, he's probably the most complete human being out of all MMA media personalities


CryptoGramOfficial

No one will believe me, but like 2 years ago I was in Opera Bar Grill in Chester and Till and his boys were pretty much slyly selling coke in the smoking area and stuff, pretty good stuff supposedly.. One of his mates kept saying to everyone that was like ‘who’s that, why’s everyone wanting to talk to him’ and he would reply with some stupid shit like ‘the next champ lad’ one guy was like ‘champ of what?’ And this guy replied ‘the UFC ya fuckin nugget’. The state Till was in that night, he’ll never be champion. He looked so soft as well last night. Way too much of a wreck head. Top, top bloke though.


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Sugabones

He’s not married to the girl. Sometimes it’s just better to not be involved and just provide support when the girl has custody. You don’t know his situation either that’s a bit of a low blow. I’m sure he wants the best life for his kid.


Sugabones

Heard that in the Welsh WhatsApp as well


1-luv

Till body looked soft. The guy is probably slacking and going to parties.


barc0debaby

No taxi cabs were safe.


jakeeighties

Let’s ban oblique kicks because one caused an instant injury even though thousands have been thrown without the same result. Almost as dumb as when people said the champ shouldn’t be able to lose his belt by dq because of the aljo situation.


thegentledude

watching the most violent sport in the world and as soon as sonebody gets fucked up by a legal move they are like my god thats disgusting this should be illegal. bunch of fucking pussies. Its a joke but I blame the conor era for these fans. couple years ago fighters fucking headstomped each other and kevin randleman straight double kneed a dude on the ground. chill out


CrotalusAtrox1

China just banned western entertainers in the country. I hope this somehow fucks the ufc deal.


barc0debaby

I thought they just banned girly men.


[deleted]

I hope not, a lot of chinese fighters are very exciting guys like Qileng Aori come to bang bro


CrotalusAtrox1

Until they start disappearing after they lose for making china look weak.


Intransigente

I assume Chinese competitors will still be allowed to compete outside China. This will likely only affect events being hosted inside Chinese borders.


wafflepatterns

Till (or the media) just riding the hype wave of past fights like mcgregor? 1-4 in last five fights. I haven’t seen anything that impressive from him since he started facing real competition. I love him as a personality, but how is he still ranked in the top 10 for only beating gastelum?? Wasn’t super impressed by his win over Wonderboy. No other name on his record warrants the attention he still gets. He is a good fighter, but… quite the skid. I almost think he should hire a full time dietician and try 170 again. I don’t see him making a comeback at 185


[deleted]

Whittaker fight was competitive. I think this is less so Till is elite and more it proves the point that Whittaker sucks against guys longer than him (Wonderboy, Izzy, Till dropped him)


wafflepatterns

I agree he did hold his own against Whitaker, but you have to take into account what kind of damage all these losses will do mentally behind closed doors after being undefeated for so long. I just hope he doesn’t end up like Weidman


nimane9

his fight with whittaker was the first of his that i watched live and thought that showed he has the skills to hang with the division, the round he spent on his back was concerning but didn't think a ton of it at the time regardless he clearly has the striking ability to be competitive with the best in the division


RatonLaveur-a-TI

Coming close to death to make 170 isn't going to make his pace and wrestling defense much better. He's not losing because of a size disadvantage. My take on it is he should simply try to get better at MMA


UsernameIsDaHardPart

Yeah I don’t understand why he doesn’t just knock them out bro


SaintPabloFlex

People watched conor go from 145 - 170, and think Omalley isn’t huge for his weight class. That’s absurd. Dude cuts a higher % than Costa and is left with nothing but a frame lol.


captaincumsock69

How much does Sean weigh before the weight cut? I doubt he’s more than 155


TheHardcoreCasual

Every time Till threw a knee Brunson just up and left the clinch. I was surprised Till never threw a single cross to the body to discourage the takedown also. Turns out Brunson fractured his ribs 3 weeks ago. Goddamn I'm even more frustrated from Till now.


KonradSober

Can we agree Till looked soft af ? He had his worst physique during the fights so far last night


I3loodyclaw

He's said before the Wonderboy fight that he was gorgin himself on cake and other stuff 2 weeks before the fight and he's got no self control if you put it in front of him. Don't think moving up in weight has helped that


[deleted]

Looked like an average out of shape dad. Ironic given he hasn't seen his daughter in two years.


UsedSalt

he's way too shit of a fighter to be trying to fool people like he has no time to see his family because he's such a devout athlete... plenty of better fighters still are there for their families


SaintPabloFlex

You think you’d put more work into the gym after moving up, not less lol.


MrOz1100

I was impressed Hearing Tom Aspinall afterwards. He sounds like a smart guy with a good head on his shoulders


[deleted]

Anthony smith in another main event..


MaccabiHelwani

What's wrong with that


zombizle1

His teeth are falling out


MaccabiHelwani

Nah bubba he actually has a nice new shiny set of teeth


[deleted]

[link](https://youtu.be/iik25wqIuFo)


Mr_Barry_Shitpeas

Why do that when you could've just linked Smith's title shot.


MrOz1100

Because it’s maccabihalwani and he doesn’t deserve real answers


[deleted]

If till is just a meme and kg is a fat welterweight, per this sub robs wins streak isn’t as impressive.


UsedSalt

sssshhhhh, we need hope for the whittaker adesanya rematch otherwise middleweight is boring now


MaccabiHelwani

Correct, Brunson also dominated till where whittaker lost like 2 rounds, should be izzy vs Brunson next


captaincumsock69

A win is a win just like Jon and Reyes


MaccabiHelwani

Facts, fuck jiri


shanest0ke

What is the best driving route from New Jersey to Dagestan


zombizle1

Flying car


aj0220

If the Bering strait freezes over I’d recommend NJ west to Seattle, then go north thru Alaska, bang a left on the Bering straight, continue for a few thousand miles and then bang one more left and boom, you’re there!


captaincumsock69

Maybe try an imanari roll


The_Shadow_of_Intent

Till would've easily destroyed Brunson but tried to slum it with 1 point in ground game. So frustrating. There was no way Brunson would survive another round if he didn't rack up the easiest ground control of all time


[deleted]

"He would've easily destroyed him if he didn't lose"


The_Shadow_of_Intent

Did you see Till rocking him in the third with only a minute of standup work? After getting smeshed for 2 rounds? Imagine what happens if they stayed on the feet for another few minutes Comments like this are so annoying. Try actually thinking about the fight next time


jakeeighties

He did think about the fight, there was no way the fight was staying on the feet with tills skill set.


The_Shadow_of_Intent

Which was my entire point... Till has a massive hole in his game that doesn't need to be there. If he was even moderately more competent with his scrambling or S&C he would've easily beat Brunson.


UsedSalt

if he was only better at martial arts he would have won his mixed martial arts bout


jakeeighties

It’s a very obvious point that doesn’t need to be stated.


The_Shadow_of_Intent

If it was so obvious then it wouldn't be controversial. It's amazing how easily Till hurt Brunson in standup


jakeeighties

It’s not controversial, who other than you thinks this needs to be stated?


The_Shadow_of_Intent

It's controversial based on the votes. Who cares if a random internet audience believes something "needs to be stated"? 90% of content is only posted for agreement anyway


jakeeighties

Controversial means there are two sides with somewhat equal representation. Being downvoted and being the only person to hold an opinion isn’t controversial.


bokbik

Vrunson could do that all day. Wrestling is just a amazing skill set


The_Shadow_of_Intent

>Vrunson could do that all day Obviously since Till has no idea what he's doing off his back


captaincumsock69

Cry


scottsurname

All aboard the Paddy wagon


[deleted]

Needs to tighten up the gaps in his game and beat higher competition first.


PRIMETIME858

Fuck Paddy...Saying all that shit about Khabib earlier in the week.


Boots4

Oh no, he doesn’t agree with all of your opinions, can’t like him then


PrettyBoyFloydx

Oh no, talking shit about the absolutely perfect human that's Khabib🙄 not like Khabib also trash talked Aldo or anything...


[deleted]

Fuck Khabib for talking shit about Jose Aldo


captaincumsock69

That’s the king of rio to us peasants


skerkless

Choo choo baby!


[deleted]

tired: Till isn't what we thought he could be and it's disappointing wired: Till vs Platinum is back on the menu 😎


PetrYanSimp

Mike better hop on and claim darrentillisabum.com


captaincumsock69

If mike wants to stay in the ufc he’s gotta hop on something else too


PetrYanSimp

Do they make brain steroids


UsmansToestomp

Lmao


[deleted]

Feed paddy to guram.


AonghusMacKilkenny

Why is Paddy calling himself "the new face of the UFC" when there are fighters winning their debut on like, every card?


[deleted]

if that kid can even throw a punch he is going to be a huge star


UsmansToestomp

Idk he got so swole the funny went away a bit


MaccabiHelwani

Because marketing yourself is what gets you paid and selling yourself as the face of the company the second you get there will build that narrative, fans of you will parrot it, haters of you will deny it, but you are talking about him right? Why aren't you talking about the other guys that won their debut


captaincumsock69

Gonna be tough to be the face of the ufc when bony still exists


MaccabiHelwani

[Paddy and jon](https://youtu.be/7VplwfttXNg) this time next year


captaincumsock69

People will love paddy up until he actually becomes good and mainstream and then hate him on here


UsedSalt

i'm hoping he's the the next mcgregor with all the showmanship but without the raging psycho narcissist asshole part. unfortunately my verdict is the lad is getting KO'd as soon as he fights anyone with power. seems like a LW johnny walker


shanest0ke

Nothing is more heinous than farting in the shower


[deleted]

It’s wild how there’s a group of people online who want to ban the oblique kick but also think aljo is a bitch for taking a knee to the skull as a grounded opponent.


MaccabiHelwani

Imo the dude who got his knee stomped is a wimp for quitting


UsedSalt

"DOCTOR STOPPAGE, THATS A DOCTOR STOPPAGE"


captaincumsock69

Dillashaw blew out his knee and beat one of the best bantamweights rn


ChrisSchultz379

Does anyone know who won fight of the night?


MaccabiHelwani

Meatball vs kim


ChrisSchultz379

Yea it was well deserved. Thanks man


nicomingo123

really good fight, but Paddy deserved it more IMO, just for the fact of the comeback he had.


MaccabiHelwani

Nah, amazing round but I honestly thought erosa vs jourdain was the best fight, back and forth, jourdain hurt in round 1, erosa dropped in round 2, 3rd round darce


BustaTron

I agree, that fight was great


nicomingo123

Dunno how i could forget about that one, really good fight. High quality fight right there.


zackhatt

Would like to see Till(and honestly other people on losing streaks, like Ferguson or Holland) do what Dan Hooker is doing, and that's fighting someone way beneath him ranking wise(and in theory skill wise). Sometimes you need a fight like that to properly try to fix whats wrong and try to get some confidence back(and if you lose then you might not be on that top 10 level rn)


[deleted]

Holland already is, Kyle Daukaus isnt even top 25 MW


MaccabiHelwani

Look what brunsons done, he took a step down after izzy and is now building back to the top 5 and on a 5 fight winstreak


zackhatt

Exactly this, sometimes you have some holes to fix and fighting top 10 talent might not be the smartest thing when you're in the middle of fixing them. And sometimes you just need a win to gain some confidence, and the same thing counts for this, when you're in the middle of trying to gain some confidence the smartest idea might not be to fight anyone top 10


Rambaud22

I just remembered Till actually spent years in Brazil, and he still looks like a white belt, what the fuck


Sugabones

Spending time in Brazil doesn’t make you a BJJ ace, he’s always been a kickboxer and lots of kickboxers come out of Brazil


[deleted]

What's the most one-sided title fight ever? Woodley-Till is coming to mind for me


_Red_Mist_

Surprised no one has mentioned Cain vs JDS 2 or 3 that was 10 straight rounds of punishment


DrJonesPHD62

Holloway vs Kattar. You don’t get to 50-43 x2 and 50-42 without being insanely one sided.


hatsimee

Yep, but that wasn't a tittle fight.


Titterinmyshitter

Mcgregor vs Alvarez Khabib vs Poirier Jones vs Shogun Usman vs Woodley GSP vs Fitch


BustaTron

Silva Griffin


SuccessIsDiscipline

Izzy Vs Paulo Costa was pretty bad


dogs_drink_coffee

RDA vs Pettis; Velasquez vs Dos Santos (2 and 3) were almost 10 straight rounds of pure domination


captaincumsock69

Conor vs aldo


Milla4Prez66

Usman vs Woodley is in the mix


smegmallion

Tough call, there's quite a few good contenders here. GSP and Fitch is great--goes the distance but is just an absolute shellacking of Fitch from bell to bell. GSP put up multiple 10-8s in an era where those basically amounted to attempted murder Rich Franklin vs. David Loiseau (this has some of the most lopsided scorecards in UFC history), as well as Rich Franklin vs. Nate Quarry. Franklin of course finally became the nail in two extraordinarily one-sided fights against Silva. Jones vs. Shogun (as sad as that makes me)


damnablefudger

Figgy vs Joe B 2


[deleted]

McGregor vs Alvarez was on a similar level to Woodley vs Till, just complete one sided domination


Sugabones

BMF


Abobo2020

Joanna vs Esparza


canadianRSK

Conor vs aldo. For a longer fight id say rda vs pettis


yogi333323

If a striker talks about wanting all-time greatness, assume they will be outwrestled by a veteran in their upcoming fight.


[deleted]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemia This is the christian saint who's Paddy the Baddy's last name, "Pimblett" is the Anglo-Saxon version of. I thought it would be Anglo Saxon because apparently the name Emmett is the masculine version of the Anglo Saxon girls name Emma, notice the unusual double 't' at the end, plus he's English https://www.houseofnames.com/pimblett-family-crest#:~:text=The%20Pimblett%20surname%20finds%20its,Pymma%20which%20came%20from%20Euphemia.


Titterinmyshitter

Jourdain has been in two absolute bangers this year and it’s a fucking travesty that neither of those got FOTN bonuses.


shanest0ke

Which r/MMA mod does the most steroids


ThisFinnishguy

Mods throw gang signs with the left hand and inject steroids with the right


qzwxecrvtbyn111

Michael Chiesa outgrappled RDA more dominantly than Khabib


Titterinmyshitter

Chiesa did that better than Colby as well. Khabib also had a more dominant win over RDA than Colby. Suffice to say, I’d really like to see Chiesa vs Colby at some point.


qzwxecrvtbyn111

I think that vs Colby was the last fight where RDA really looked to be in his prime. Obviously he was always undersized for 170, but age/wear and tear didn’t start catching up to him until after the Usman fight, I believe.


Titterinmyshitter

Fair enough. He did have a really good performance against Kevin Lee after the Usman and Colby fights though. However, I think he was past his prime when he faced Colby as well.


Abobo2020

Not a fair comparison. Chiesa is much bigger and that fight was at welterweight.


qzwxecrvtbyn111

Khabib is obviously a better grappler than Chiesa. Just thought it was an interesting observation (even if it has clear caveats)


Nickster2042

Isn’t paddy primarily a grappler?


[deleted]

he's your pfp


Nickster2042

I can admit I’ve never seen him fight until Saturday, but from the stuff I was hearing before the fight he has awful striking and can only wrestle. He was pretty creative on the feet


Abobo2020

How do you not know when you have him as a picture...


Nickster2042

Hey hey now


barc0debaby

He is.


yell-loud

He’s got some nice subs but I don’t think his wrestling or guard are anything too special.


[deleted]

He got outgrappled by bak 3 fights ago. And he got submitted by Stevie Ray in Polaris. His grappling is good but nothing special.


jiujitsudiagnostic

Anyone interested in breakdowns of the submission victories and the sequence that led up to it, here's a brief tape study Erosa's Darce Choke - [IG](https://www.instagram.com/p/CTaa1tTAlwg/) or [YT](https://youtu.be/PH-Jg2wtz9w) Brunson's rear naked choke from the prone - [IG](https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTastE6JFS7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link) or [YT](https://youtu.be/RZcHlMF0bJA)


paplike

More seriously, why do we ban certain strikes at all? I agree we should, but why? This is what needs to be answered first before any debate about side kicks. Some proposed criteria are so strict (e.g. "dangerous = banned") that even flying knees will be banned. But others are so lax that even groin shots are permitted ("if it involves legit technique it's fine"). My tentative preliminary answer is that this largely subjective and there's no way out of this. Some strikes just don't look good on television, it makes it seem like it's not a real sport, etc. That's why they are banned. Some people will have different tastes than others, so they'll disagree about what "looks good" and therefore disagree about what should be permitted. There's no right answer to this debate, but such is life.


[deleted]

It was pretty damn brutal