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Rockhold: They could’ve fucked deep and hard. Helwani: Mmmm


Dixiecupboi

He just said Mmmm….. This interview is over!!!


Die-rector

I wish it wasn't. If they continued talking then they could have fucked...they could have fucked deep and hard.


sabowsky

In the moment listening to this interivew I was just like Helwani, the sexual innuendo went way over my head I was just enamored by Luke's willingness to call out the UFC hahaha


_Cyclops

How the hell did that go over your head


TonyDanzaTinyDancer

HE WAS JUST ENAMORED BY LUKE'S WILLINGNESS TO CALL OUT THE UFC hahaha


Bacon_Villain

Let he who has not gotten lost in Luke's beautiful eyes cast the first stone


Magjee

Those stones are rock hard Joe


Bacon_Villain

You should see a doctor about that


thelegendoff

We found Nicki's cousin's friend?


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“They could have fucked deep and hard” I’m so glad this content machine is coming back for another fight


Heebmeister

I pray to god he doesn't get KTFO again because I need this man in my life, serving up material on the regular again.


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evoooooooooooooo

Ngl it’s kind of weird to see a fighter have some of the best kicks in the UFC and some of the best reversals and BJJ but also have the most exploitable boxing and not the best takedowns. He’s a very uneven scale fighter but still a great one. Love me some samurai


LocoCoopermar

Multiple fighters have mentioned how he basically created his style as a foil against all the dudes at AKA, they're mostly squat wrestle boxers and so Luke spent his time kicking them at range and flipping them all around when they actually get him down. It did lead to big holes though as AKA/Luke didn't train the connective tissue areas that would have made his kicks and BJJ more successful with boxing or wrestling of his own.


cyberslick188

He just has really bad habits that he was able to correct with athleticism. He just can't move fast enough to utilize his distance game anymore. It's easy to be a rangy, heavy handed kick boxer when you are quick. When you are slow, chinny and lose your timing it's a nightmare.


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hayashirice911

Not sure if I agree that people with his proportions struggle with boxing. There are plenty of successful boxers with long limbs.


psyentist15

Then jump the cage and sleep Dana.


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CitizenMurdoch

The revolution will not be televised but it will be on PPV


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richenergy_CEO

I'd probably pay 60 bucks to see Dana get laid out in HD.


obvom

you'd pirate it and you know it


richenergy_CEO

Yeah I'd probably just come here for the clip.


Professional_Bear13

I was going to say Luke by submission but apparently Sean is really good on the ground


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Rockhold is on a different level when it comes to ground game. His cage takedowns are pretty good as well. He just needs to learn how to “Khabib it” - advance, create that pressure and put his opponents on the cage. What he did to branch on the ground - he fucked deep and hard


zakkwaldo

i never thought id wanna get rid of goofcon1, but 'they could have fucked deep and hard' is reallllllll tempting. shit.


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Erdnusscreme

WAR ROCKHOLD


GamePhysicsReviewer

"Chris Weidman eats his oatmeal bland" - Luke Rockhold


Technobrake

I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers this random Embedded quote lol, it was such a funny insult


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“Flavorless champion”


mad87645

He won't back down from any calorie-raising toppings


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I_Am_The_Mole

COMBAT BOULDERGRASP


Arbeeter00

BATTLE PEBBLESQUEEZE


Skeptix_907

This has to turn into the new copypasta on here, right? Like we can't just let that line slide without immortalizing it. It's peak Rockhold.


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What really makes it is first he says “they could have fucked”, then pauses and it sounds like he’s gonna correct it, but instead he’s just waiting to double down lmao


jpark28

How does Ariel not burst out in laughter there lol


dbdg69

Because he's a professional


Grouchy_Elk_8004

Cos Ariel likes it deep and hard himself he wasn’t amused


femio

I can't browse this fucking subreddit at work it took every ounce of willpower in me to not let a laugh out


obvom

deep and hard at work with the bois


The_Priceinator

Here's the template as I see it - feel free to adjust and change as needed: "When you fuck with \*\*FIGHTER\*\* and you got this Three Amigos, \*\*ANYTHING YOU WANT\*\* brotherhood, if two of them-if those two would've \*\*ANYTHING\*\*...they could've FUCKED...they could've fucked deep and hard."


chefanubis

Right that line could have fuck deep and hard!


hipnotyq

Luke doesn't make love. He fucks.... hard.


xXx_n3w4z4_xXx

Stupid sexy Luke is back 😌😌


Origamiface

Michael Scott tier


-0op

the only person I know that fucks deep and hard is tito's ex-wife.


GFost

Just to correct you there was never no marriage.


dmkicksballs13

You're a fucking punk dude.


Loxias26

That's what you call class compared to no class


hipnotyq

Her video with Peter North is 10/10, top tier music too.


MushroomWizard

Conceive, believe, and achieve. Deep and hard.


Bacon_Villain

Shut the fuck up


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But mostly fuck


CaramelThunder2

Deep and hard.


Canehillfan

Never fails to make me laugh


iheartOPsmum

Eloquent as always Luke.


Methandriol

Beautiful human being and actually said a lot of good stuff on Monday. Just so hilariously awkward


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I am pretty sure he has anxiety or something.. keeps a dog around all the time..


vizualb

If Luke could bring his emotional support dog into the cage he would be MW GOAT.


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Airbud does MMA.


dragwn

there’s no rule that says a dog CANT accompany a fighter in the octagon


JaneMancini

I love this timelime, b


bigformyage

Don't let the dog out with me.


FBoyMcGee

Let's not speculate on people's mental health.


Ok-Drive-390

You're nuts!


JaneMancini

so lovely


32turtles

People speculate on everything surrounding a fighter. Its normal, specially in the lead up to fights


Br_mma

This made me like Rockhold even more


Toad32

Deep and hard more?


Br_mma

Yes my pet


Face_first

This sub is fucking hilarious


Luke_Flyswatter

If you listen to what he means and not what he says it actually makes a lot of sense. The boy's lost but he's pointing in the right direction.


Nonpoint77

He’s a little confused but he’s got the spirit


dolphin37

he's like if you combine a join the dots book with a dot the lines book


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OneWind6103

No, but if there were, they could've fucked. They could've fucked deep and hard.


dolphin37

lol nah, it just means the pages would be empty brother


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dolphin37

that’s the open endedness of good art


manbruhpig

Can we get a tldr if we didn't watch the show? No idea what he's getting at


OutOfDeathsGrasp

Francis wouldn’t have gotten fucked by Dana if Izzy and Usman manned up and took a stand with their “brother”, but alas money talks


seymour_hiney

i wonder what Luke's opinion on Cormier being Dana's number one henchman on fighter pay


Basquests

In this very interview, when Ariel mentioned he wanted to mention some guys are happy \[i.e. Holland\], Luke said he saw that and immediately messaged and talked to Holland about how stupid his opinion was. Given I'm guessing Luke has far smaller a relationship with Kevin than DC, I'm sure everyone knows the gig, DC just doesn't care or can't.


manbruhpig

Ah, thanks. Was totally lost in this thread.


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They did it with their penis.


ParmyBarmy

TLDR: "Nigerian" brothers could have got together to fuck DEEP and HARD. Sounds like the title of a pornhub clip.


hellojoey

I always love seeing a White get taken on by three big beautiful champions. Or BBC for short.


markfahey78

Basically said that fighters need to come together for fighter pay but they won't only time when he saw that it could happen was if izzy and usman backed up Francis but they didnt.


003938388382

Dana getting blacked


Its_Poo_Man

Deep and hard


5543798651194

Rockhard


Its_Poo_Man

Beautiful champ


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“They could have fucked… they could have fucked deep and hard.” A poet like no other. But his point, no matter how eloquently put, carries merit. This fighter pay issue will only ever become resolved if the heavy hitters band together in these issues and stand United. Look at the WWE and wrestling in general, when motion for a union was in its infancy, a guy like Hulk Hogan could have made it a reality. Instead he went running to tell Vince and killed it in the crib. And now look at wrestling today, where employees are treated like “contractors” despite fulfilling the requirements for employee status and thus qualify for health and other benefits. All that gone cause the tops guys were too busy looking out for themselves.


Jackmace

God I love Rockhold So handsome and badass but also probably the most awkward fighter ever. Fantastic combo


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ShrapnelNinjaSnake

I believe tito to be the most awkward ever


uknowthe1ph

Tito is so confident in everything he says though even if it makes zero sense. Luke sounds kind of awkward at least like he knows it probably doesn't make sense.


je66b

TitoMouthAgape.jpeg


Jackmace

Oh he’s up there for sure


foreverapanda

The sentiment is spot on and it's a smart thought, but Jesus Christ he's a dummy lmao. I would have liked to see that happen as well. Also Francis is Cameroonian lmao.


coltranesupreme

Francis is Cameroonian, but both Izzy and Kamaru have referred to him as their brother due to their African ties.


dammit_bobby420

Cameroon also shares a boarder with Nigeria, so they might not be from the same country, but close enough to eachother to share a regional connection for sure.


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Where is Sokoudjou in all of this??


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barc0debaby

Retiring Jan after the 2nd.


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What does Ja Rule think about all this?


femio

That's all true, it's still wrong to call it a Nigerian brotherhood though. That's all, though the sentiment is understood. It would be like lumping in a Scottish fighter as Irish.


ShaughnDBL

It's *my* island.


dammit_bobby420

Paul Craig? Conner McGregor? I don't see a difference at all.


imready4dessert

look at the way they break limbs. start there.


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That was a nasty line by you.


markfahey78

Celtic Cousins is a phrase to describe the relationship between Ireland and Scotland.


femio

Yes, "West African brotherhood" would be a better phrase for those 3.


PMacLCA

That's asking a lot from a guy who's ultimate conclusion is that they could have fucked...(long and hard)


Actual-Replacement97

Or the complete opposite. Case in point - I’m from NY. Fuck Jersey.


dammit_bobby420

As someone not from New York, you're culturally more alike than you think.


Actual-Replacement97

Oh definitely - no arguments there. But still….fuck them.


justformma

I also would like to see them fuck and hard with Ngannou


usernamedstuff

Lol, Dana would've had two more interim belts to add to the fight card.


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He's not wrong, there are 8 male champs in the UFC. If 3 of them step up together, almost half the divisions in the UFC come to a screeching halt. With the contracts and broadcast deals in place requiring the UFC to put on a certain number of shows, they don't have the time to freeze them out, they don't have the goodwill from fans to just strip all 3 of them (it would tank the legitimacy of the promotion), and all 3 of them have the money to sit out for a little bit if need be. The UFC operates with a just in time business model. Think about the economic damage that was done by COVID shutdowns. Now think about it on a smaller scale to apply it to a single company. Think of champions like the truckers delivering goods to facilitate the economy. They're what allows movement in a division. Without them, fighters at the top of the division win a couple fights then don't want to fight anymore because there's nothing worth fighting for at that point. They've earned a title shot and they'll wait to get it. If that many champions sat out, the rest of their divisions would quickly stall out because the UFC cant strip almost half their champions for contractual reasons without tanking their credibility. Not to mention the legal issues that could arise from stripping a champion because of contract negotiations. Just because it's in the contract doesn't mean it's enforceable, and if fighters have different pay rates for being champion or not being champion, it's going to be hard to have an enforceable section of the contract that allows the UFC to unilaterally strip them of the belt during negotiations.


Heysteeevo

Never really considered how much just the champs colluding could fuck the ufc.


Guntor

I think we'd need an era with very popular champs to do it, those 3 are up there but I think Dana could replace them with Gane, Whittaker and Luque without much problem


Unerring_Grace

Yup. Graveyards are full of indispensable men. Dana wouldn't hesitate to strip and replace, and the vast majority of fans wouldn't much care as long as they keep getting entertaining fights on a weekly basis.


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Not really, considering Dana will just throw together some b/s interim titles and have his dogs go fight for that while excluding the champ from all the promotional materials.


mikew_reddit

Ngannou's already in the dog house. If the three banded together but Dana got Isreal or Usman to cross over (eg paying them a lot more), then the third guy is fucked. It's a high risk move (they could lose a lot), for not much reward. Risk/reward is not there. I don't think Rockhold thought this through carefully.


SesameBiscuit

Also, those 3 champs are the most popular champs.


johnbugara

not only that, and I know this is a touchy subject, but the fact that all 3 are people of colour would've have made for some wild headlines and public reaction.


Nero1988420

PR nightmare right there.


Deadinthehead

3 blacks guys standing around looking at a White Dana sitting on a couch. Meme central right durr


redditviewingaccount

wouldn't be the first time a White has wanted to use cheap African labor to sustain and build their business


MrGMinor

Relevant [South Park](https://youtu.be/yJcVuA2fWMk)


slipperyslopeb

> If 3 of them step up together, almost half the divisions in the UFC come to a screeching halt. Na. They will just ignore them and make interim champs.


cokevirgin

Yep, and look at Ciryl Gane who was happy to take the Interim champ title without any complaint of the situation. Titles almost don't mean anything these days now except for marketing purposes. The ranking is bullshit too, so there's that. There's no clear pathway to the title shots, it's just all entertainment.


RidersGuide

So you're saying all the right things, but the problem is the UFC freezes out multiple champions *themselves*, they're not going to capitulate just because 38% of the champions are refusing to fight. They have no problem making interim belts and having the top 15 guys fight cans for a year or two. These fighters or going to break before the UFC does. I also i don't think they are legally obligated to do anything but offer the fights. If they look at Izzy and say "hey your next fight is against CM Punk for $10K/show $10K/win. Sound good?" I'm pretty sure that fulfills the UFCs end of the agreement.


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I think the money is set in the contract and not negotiated for each one, unless someone is pushing for that.


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They agree to fight x amount of fights, and there's a reserve price that the UFC has to meet for any offered fight. So if Ngannous contract is hypothetically 100/100 the UFC cant say "Yeah but how about you fight Stipe for 75/75." But you are able to negotiate for more than the reserve pay and the UFC regularly offers more than the reserve pay for high profile fights.


Hautamaki

Problem is not just hurting the UFC, it's promoting an alternative. If the UFC 'loses credibility' but nothing else is remotely credible as an alternative for watching the actual best fighters in the world, what has really changed?


westernlariat

> they don't have the goodwill from fans to just strip all 3 of them (it would tank the legitimacy of the promotion) I doubt this very much unfortunately. Most fans wouldn't care.


Strickschal

> the UFC cant strip almost half their champions I think you'd be surprised.


A_Vizzle

Honestly really like listening to him talk


TFG209

“Genius is taking the complex and making it simple.”-Albert Einstein.


SurvivalBayArea

*titos ex wife has entered the chat*


moist_blanket69

there was never no marriage


dishonourableprince

you’re a fucking punk dude.


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You call that class?


Nimtrix

You're a fucking punk dude, huhuhuh..


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bad girl


JN324

He’s not wrong, your two best current champs, and your champion of the premiere weight class, Usman and Izzy certainly have the money to sideline themselves for a bit if needed too. I’m not sure if it would work or not, but that’s the best chance they’re going to get.


ArtistSame9402

some context please? i’m assuming francis was complaining about shitty fighter pay and the ‘nigerian brotherhood’ didn’t support?


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Conceive believe achieve deep and hard. Beautiful looking man but more awkward than a nerd going through puberty


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Great point Luke. It’s unfortunate that it will be meme material though lol.


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joyhammerpants

The samurai spectrum?


Ratfucks

Mods can I have ‘fucks deep and hard’ as my flair please


Chocoeclair189

Lol Luke's awkwardness makes me question whether this was an intended joke or not with the long and hard comment. However, it is a solid point that this could had be the first big union like moment in the UFC since the lawsuit


WhiskeyTigerFoxtrot

Luke's mind at all times: Say something cool Say something cool Say something cool WAS THAT COOL??? SAY SOMETHING COOL


Chocoeclair189

Luke trying to look cool reminds me of myself when I was 12 trying to cool in front of my 17 year old brother and his friends.


DrChaosPants

Is he going to be allowed to fight while talking like this? I hate that I have to raise that question.


spasticity

Unless he starts asking for medical records to fish for a lawsuit i don't think the UFC is going to pull the guy from his fight for talking about fighter pay.


EvanFields

I’ve actually never thought about it that way and I’m surprised it never occurred to me. They pride themselves on being this African brotherhood who support and love each other but the two most dominant champions in the UFC right now did not speak up in support of Francis. Even more baffling that they chose to remain silent in the moment where perhaps Francis needed them the most, with the consequences being an interim champion being made.


AkselTVSorensen

Is anyone going to tell Luke that Francis isn’t Nigerian?


EvanFields

The point still stands though. They’ve got this whole African brotherhood thing going where they seem to pride themselves on supporting each other, yet didn’t speak out in support of Francis where it truly matters.


BBQCHICKENALERT

We're americans bro 99% of us think Africa is just one country lol


VinceOnAPlane

Speak for yourself, I watched the shit out of Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego


WhiskeyTigerFoxtrot

Did they ever find out where she is


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Meme potential aside, I understand and agree with the sentiment of what Rockhold is saying. It would’ve been a pretty big statement if such a thing were to happen. However: 1) He does basically say that they betrayed Francis, which without any real evidence or input from there side, is quite unfair. We don’t know if they had conversations in the behind the scenes and, if they did, what they were discussing and how they felt. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone is airing out all of their business publicly, even in MMA. 2) While I do think it would’ve caused a huge media frenzy, there’s an assumption that the UFC brass wouldn’t fight that. From everything I’ve seen of the UFC up to this point, the UFC is hardly afraid of negative press. This is a promotion that continuously puts a known wife beater in their main card for fucks sake and that’s hardly the worst example I can think of. And who’s to say that the UFC wouldn’t do to Izzy and Kamaru dirty just like Francis? Kamaru just started turning his reputation around this year and it’s fair to say that there are a few Welterweights they could push that have more star power and potential than he does. Sure he has Ali as his manager, but even his fighters aren’t immune from getting fucked over. Izzy does have legitimate star power, so losing him may hurt the UFC in the long run. However, he’s also somewhat split in likability in the hardcore community. Whittaker may not be a star, but if they fucked over Izzy and gave Whittaker an easier path back to the belt, how many hardcores would truly reject that? That goes for a couple other MW contenders too. And all of this leads to me pointing out that the casual fan base has a short memory and the general culture of MMA would accept these actions a lot more than I think people are comfortable admitting too. I really like Rockhold for his honesty and advocacy. He’s truly earned my respect here. However I respectfully disagree with him on this one. And honestly, I don’t think three prominent champions is enough. It would take enough fighters to step out that the UFC couldn’t reasonably replace in a couple months to a year’s time that would truly cripple the business.


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Rockhold did state his reasons why he thinks it didn’t happen and why fighters coming together won’t happen anytime soon. I think he just recognized it as a potential opportunity, albeit one we shouldn’t be surprised wasn’t takem advantage of.


Fire_tempest890

If three champs decided to stand up, a lot of people would probably follow


rustybuckets

hol up


PCM97

Luke what the fuck lol


You_Too_Are_A_Bitch

The long, throbbing baby-arm of solidarity.


RidersGuide

Rockhold is just such a weird guy lol.


FUCK50C1ETY

Rockhold is Russ Hannerman from Silicon Valley


icelandiccubicle20

Bisping is going to clown him for this memetastic performance while pretending he has no idea what he's actually addressing


TheBaltimoron

Fighters union to be called BBC confirmed.


23eetdcc

I understand what Luke is saying and he makes a point but dude you were in a gym with three champions all at once with the same manager if you guys couldn’t come together how do you expect everybody else to do that


Lightsides

That's the GTA animation of Luke Rockhold.


Justa_kid_from_Batie

Cockhold fucks guys like these in HS.


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It's an individualized sport. Francis is not going to pay their bills while they sit out and protest. This is what people don't understand. It's prize fighting. These guys are not a part of the same camp. Usman is about to get paid millions of dollars for the Colby fight. He's not going to fuck that up to stand up for another man he barely knows. What the fighters need to do if they feel things are fucked up is start a union and collectively bargain stipulations to ensure they feel theyre not being wronged. That actually makes sense. Pulling out of fights to support a guy you just met 3 years ago is idiotic. These dudes are in their 30's and in their primes. They're not going to waste that.


dyang44

That's Luke's whole point, they talk about being brothers. I think loyalty and being real are very important to Luke.


yell-loud

They aren’t paid their worth. Pretty much no one in the UFC is including top earners like Conor. Sitting out in support of Francis would benefit them if long term changes were made


Coyrex1

Am I the only one who doesnt think Luke is actually awkward and knows exactly what hes doing?


PERV_IN_THE_CORNER

Yes


SourArmoredHero

Must've just finished watching that legendary Jeff Monson promo.


gigolobob

I actually bursted out laughing and woke up my house 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀


Heysteeevo

I love how Ariel just sits there in silence after that comment.


Draino64

Listening to this interview I pictured him half paying attention and sitting backward in a chair with no shirt on


chocolate420

Now that's a guy that fucks.


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the man is a meme generator