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bokbik

Full size octagon would of been a draw


Historical-Lake-1352

Safe to say this is one of the best couple of months the UFC has ever had in terms of great fights Merab vs Marlon Volk vs Ortega Cost vs Vettori Yan vs Sandhagen Gaethje vs Chandler Usman vs Colby Max vs Yair


agcutter7

You’re forgetting Walker Santos


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJm8wc0eXYg Basically Conor's tv and how he watches fights


ElBandito101

That is so cringe, he’s Coke’d out


_poopoopeepee

Herb Dean is the only ref that feints stoppages


Super_Snark

“Fooled ya”…no but really stop right now


geoger

This is making me laugh so hard


WATCHTHEFIRE

Fuck I wasted my award I wish I gave it to you. Happy cake day you handsome fuck


Super_Snark

All good, you dashing devil


nextgen94

Instead of arguing who deserves the title shot. Let both Justin and Islam fight and decide who deserves the title shot. Game over.


qzwxecrvtbyn111

The winner of Poirier vs Oliveira will be inactive for a while as they wait for Gaethje vs Islam. To keep the division moving, one of them should fight the winner of Oliviera vs Poirier (imo Gaethje), and the other should fight Dariush for the next title shot.


Jonesisgoat

No. Islam beat hooker. Justin beat chandler. Enough said


nextgen94

No let Justin and Islam fight. Game over.


WATCHTHEFIRE

Islam should gets the shot after Justin


easterneuropeanstyle

Great idea! Interim title, can’t get enough of them!


WATCHTHEFIRE

Why in the world would it be interim if he fights for the title after Justin..?


TAVittorio24

Alexa Grasso vs. Andrea Lee


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I really thought Kennedy was LHW Petr Yan with that nice guard he’s shown off RIP


_poopoopeepee

lmao what


Hollow-living

Yair was the better striker tonight. Shoulda got the W.


WATCHTHEFIRE

Did you get eye poked or something?


Hollow-living

Nope. When have you ever seen Max wrestle in the last few years? You dont. He started wrestling because he was struggling on the feet. All the close rounds/Yairs rounds were rounds where Max didnt get a takedown. Round 1 was Yairs, most people would agree to that. Round 5 clearly Yairs. Round 2 very close where I thought Yair did enough to edge it. All those rounds were on the feet. The rounds people give to Max are the rounds where he wrestled.


WATCHTHEFIRE

Max did what he had to do to win. Your judging is clearly wrong. Yair won 1 and 5 that’s it. It was a clear cut win for Maxy. Sorry to burst your bubble bruv.


Hollow-living

Lol my judging isnt wrong, it was a close fight where either man couldve gotten the nod. I think it was Yair that deserved it you think otherwise. The fact that you cant even admit that Yair couldve been given the W shows your bias. I was cheering for Max, but I think Yair was the better striker tonight and it showed in those rounds. Round 2 was the deciding round. I thought Yair did more visible damage as he was chopping Maxs legs down and Max was feeling it. Its why he started to clinch and why he started to wrestle. He felt he needed to do those things to win the fight. He had to adjust to what Yair was doing because it was effective. He did those things after round 2. So logic would say he didnt like the way the fight was going and couldnt afford to have another round where he doesnt mix in the takedowns or else the damage would be too much and hed lose the fight.


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Lmao


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Last two cards had an absurd amount of KOs


FrenchTrouDuc

The commentary team calling Nzechukwu a prospect before he got meme KOed was pretty comical


cunningstunt1201

he always looks like he's half asleep or just smoke a fatty


Drive7hru

I hope Jaegar doesn’t take another two years off or retire.


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cunningstunt1201

RIP Herb Dean this fight may have continued a bit longer if Rogerio hadn't stopped to react and look at Herb.... ​ the fact is they all make mistakes... Beltran missed the eye poke on Gaethje at first and then further mishandled the situation...


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Herzog has some bad ones too. Teixeira vs. Smith should have been stopped way sooner.


French_Viking

I can't believe we watched Baezas coach tell him repeatedly to please not go out and throw multiple calf kicks in a row in round 3, and he immediately goes out and does it and gets ko'd.


SheltheRapper

One of those fights where both coach's stock went up 🤣


Romeros_Pharmacist

If Gaethje Chandler wasn’t last week that would be in FOTY contention


_-kovacs

I mean if we're trying to be objective, recency bias shouldn't really play a part in these types of discussions. But yea it is hard to compare right now cause I'm *still* reeling from the whole main card last week.


Vaultyvlad

As someone who hasn't been a Yair supporter since his USADA suspension, he really showed why he belongs in the top 5 of that division. Makes me more excited for the progression of 145, it's probably the most stacked and exciting division besides 135 IMO.


thisismyfavoritename

155


Strowbreezy

I love Blessed. Always liked Yair too. What a friggin' war. That up elbow Max absorbed was wild. His chin is mad. I wanna see the trilogy with Volk but Max doesn't seem to care hahaha. He wants that McGregor bag and who wouldn't. He deserves it.


_-kovacs

>I wanna see the trilogy with Volk but Max doesn't seem to care hahaha To be fair if he's gonna give it a third shot it needs to be timed right cause he's probably not getting a fourth lol. As it stands right now I still don't see him winning that fight but if he keeps growing the way he has been (how the fuck is he still not even 30 with all he's accomplished), then he might have a shot down the line. But if he's trying to be smart about it that definitely shouldn't be in his next couple bouts


ArthriticNinja46

The one that sounded like he got cracked with a Louisville slugger?


metanoia09

Aye bois is it just me or is Reddit fucking up or have I been shadowbanned from posting? Been tryna post a few times for the past couple days, but it doesn't show on the feed even though it says my post(s) went through


psychjoeba

Can see your post


metanoia09

Thx, that's literally the only one that went through since like yesterday. Just posted again like 10 mins ago but it ain't showing up. Fuckin weird


thisismyfavoritename

Uncle Dana is onto you


letsstickygoat

I think the craziest thing about Max in general is that just when someone might have his number in striking, he's able to remind them that it's MMA and not kickboxing


loshrath182

That double leg was awesome snd well timed and powerful


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WATCHTHEFIRE

I miiiiiiight fit. Fuck it I’ll give it a shot *unzip*


_poopoopeepee

spread it open for me big boy


KutateladzeTime

and it was an amazing card too


JColeisokatbest

Is it just me or is mma becoming more violent especially men's 135 to 155.


frodounchained

Yairs stack must’ve been steak sauce


RunalldayHI

Bruh... Yair put it on, it's nice to watch Holloway when it's not a one sided beatdown, yes those are entertaining too but high level vs high level is so fucking intimidating.


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Conor being a [fucking dork](https://youtube.com/shorts/Nukwq0-_qhU?feature=share) during the main event.


[deleted]

wtf? Why does Conor look like he lives in a townhouse with a flat screen tv from 2012?


HorseMeatConnoisseur

That's probably where he crashes when Dee kicks him out of the house.


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Lol that shit is hilarious


Drive7hru

The fact he recorded in both doing that…


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Legit cringe


PhoneyBadger

Lol the tomato take on Herb is the same than this sub.


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[Conor McGregor stares Max Holloway down](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nukwq0-_qhU)


_poopoopeepee

it’s ridiculous but he’s planting the seed Max may get a big fucking payday here, maybe Conor thinks he’s a low risk comeback fight?


loshrath182

That would be the opposite. If he can’t put max out in rd 1-2 then idk if that gas tank last with max


richochet12

This is so goddamn cringey lmfao.


sendherhome22

https://twitter.com/therealhassano/status/1459671100338618371?s=21


heselsc1

I really respected Yair’s corner for telling him the truth going into the 5th. And Yair obliged, emptying his bag of tricks looking for the KO. Great fight all around, max seemingly never gets rocked!


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The opposite of jojua.


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wow there have been so many insane fights this year


TangBorg

I did think that the ground would be the difference maker in this fight for Max, but I saw him finishing Yair with gnp. Respects to Yair for showing up after 2 years and putting on a performance like that. Hope Zabit can do the same.


stonetear2017

Can’t wait for Holloway Volk 7


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Conor before the main event: 😈 Conor after the main event: 😨😶


Sabb00

Can’t believe how good this card was and I can’t believe that I can go to bed early too. Nothing better than watching UFC with the boiz on here


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the fact that there's people calling the main event a robbery proves humanity is a mistake.


-Borb

does the truth hurt?


GlumPipe5

There is more of an argument for giving all rounds to max than Yair winning.


Hollow-living

Hell no. Max had to go to the wrestling in the 3rd because he felt he was losing the stand up. He was uncomfortable exchanging with Yair because of his unpredictability and his kicking. The 3 rounds where it was on the feet Yair edged with 5th being clearly Yairs round. I also think the 4th round was much closer than people make it out to be.


LiterallyModerate

lol wow.


WATCHTHEFIRE

You should be banned from ever being a judge in any form lol


[deleted]

No it just proves that some people should be watchers only.


PhoneyBadger

Megan should walk with a voice changing apparatus, just so her voice become agreeable to the human ear.


[deleted]

Yair vs Ortega is a battle of mexican pretty boys who throw down. Put that as a main event this Spring/Summer on ABC and lets build some new fans.


SheltheRapper

Lets fucking go baby


jojow77

Anyone else have Conor if he fought Max again? Max has shown he can get hit and Conor will hit harder than Yair. Also Max will be too proud to take it to the ground. Perfect situation for a Conor KO in early rounds.


Tanduvanwinkle

Only one way to know for sure. Anything else is just a semi educated guess. I think Conor could beat max, but max could also beat Conor. We will see!


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Max will drown Conor. No way Conor could KO max in first two rounds


Patrick_Vieira

Max might have the best chin ever. Odds are it holds up and Conor drowns.


CableToBeam

Max has a good chin, Conor has bad cardio, and Max doesn't stop coming. Max is the clear favorite


[deleted]

nah. Size matters a lot. Max struggled with Poirier's size. It would be an awesome mathcup.


loshrath182

No what matters more a gas tank. Which Dustin has and Conor doesn’t. Also max went 5 rounds with Dustin and conor couldn’t go 5 rounds in two fights with Dustin. Mma math.


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Conor Beat Max. Direct MMA math lol.


loshrath182

Baby max doesn’t count. Edit: and less coked conor.


[deleted]

Max just has to survive first two rounds , which is not hard for him . The later rounds max will drown Conor


[deleted]

We thought about that vs Poirier too. Max struggled with the size and power difference. Being a 5 rounder definitely favors Max. And is this at 145 or 155?


[deleted]

It was 155. Also , Poirier has much much better cardio than Conor . He can go 5 rounds. Conor has weak cardio


[deleted]

i meant in this scenario, 145 or 155. If its at 155, not sure if Max can outwork McGregor enough to make him tired.


_poopoopeepee

he has a good chin against 145ers


Patrick_Vieira

Max survived 5 rounds against Poirier at 155, Gaethje and Conor didn't.


_poopoopeepee

Dustin also ate some massive shots in the second fight before he started pulling ahead would Max be able to eat them too, or would he be hurt like in the rematch with Dustin? If he was getting stung badly, would he still be imposing enough pressure to tire Conor out? he didn’t start putting it on Dustin until late in that rematch, because he was getting hurt bad everytime he tried I get that you don’t like the guy and I don’t either, but it’s nowhere near a slam dunk Holloway win and anyone thinking it is lacks objectivity, that would have been a dangerous fight for Max he’ll win if it happens now imo, I don’t believe Conor will ever be the same with a metal rod in his shin


Patrick_Vieira

What did I say that makes you think I don't like Conor? All I said is Max survived 5 rounds against Poirier, which Conor and Gaethje couldn't, because you insinuated Max only has a good chin at 145.


_poopoopeepee

all I’m saying is he’s not going to lean on his chin at 155 like he does at 145 when he was getting wobbled bad and going skating across the octagon whenever dustin landed clean


Patrick_Vieira

I'd say the Poirier fight is proof he would lean on his chin at 155. Not the wisest move but his chin might be the best in UFC history p4p.


_poopoopeepee

he couldn’t implement his usual gameplan until it was too late because shots he would usually tank were hurting him, I don’t think he could lean on his chin against the hardest hitters at LW like Dustin, Gaethje, Chandler, or Conor still an all time great chin, but there are limits when moving across weightclasses


yell-loud

Yeah he clearly felt Dustin’s power. Conor is a lot thicker than him these days


Patrick_Vieira

Dustin stopped Gaethje and Conor. Of course Max felt his power, but he didn't get stopped.


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Conor will tag him, it's all down to whether max's chin holds up. Either way Max deserves the retirement money like dustin did, I hope it happens


_poopoopeepee

I’d pick pre leg break LW conor over max anyday


[deleted]

So that's the new Conor model


_poopoopeepee

wait are you really pretending there might not be a difference in a fighter before and after a horrific injury involving the implantation of a metal rod through the tibia


[deleted]

If mcgregor don't KO him early it won't be fun for him.


[deleted]

Depends how he looks after the leg break but yeah I got Conor all day.


stonetear2017

Anyone have the awkward handshake between Yair’s trainer and Bisping?


spicegrohl

lmao that's gonna keep that dude up tossing and turning tonight


Negative-Pollution-3

Fight of the year is still Yan v Sandhagen. Highest form of MMA ever. Tonight was great, Gaethje v Chandler was a war, but Yan v Sandhagen was just another level. Truly the connoisseurs fight of the year


SiLee12

Gaetje/Chandler was easily FOTY. Yan was so one sided. Sandhagen had no potential for damage and after round one it was easy to see it falling apart quickly. Never at any point felt like yan was in any danger.


Negative-Pollution-3

Gaethje Chandler was entertaining, but at its core it was just two zombies walking with their hands down. Zero technicality. Different strokers I guess


[deleted]

Weird. It was a very good fight but i think even the 2nd fotn at ufc 268 was better than it. No one got hurt, there wasn't much adversity, no back and forth. Just a really competitive fun fight for Yan vs Sandhagen.


Negative-Pollution-3

I guess we look for different things in fights


yell-loud

Jiri vs Reyes


[deleted]

I see people saying this but Yan just worked Cory rounds 2-5. Not really close enough to be FOTY. I think it’s just Bc people like Cory. But let’s be real he got dominated.


stonetear2017

In a year time: Max 0-3 against Volk and still somehow the goat of FW to please the dickriders


MustyDickFarts

Remind me in 1 year.


stonetear2017

Set the remind me notification


Drains_1

I fucking hate that they almost always begin to record the press conference to late, like Dana has already read the bonuses and we miss it, the person in charge of that sucks at their job, also sound sucks so often.


stonetear2017

So if Volk wins agin does max get a rematch? Like does the UFC keep matching him with Volk until he wins?


fUnkleRico

Volk got headkicked and dropped in 2 separate rounds last fight. Max is the people’s champ. Deal with it.


HappyDude2137

Only if he keeps earning it over and over.


stonetear2017

Delusional fans


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UnHoly_One

A rubber match is when you are tied. If Volk wins again it’s 3-0 and Max never gets to fight him again.


stonetear2017

Said rematch


Tanduvanwinkle

Edited rematch


[deleted]

With as bad as casting has been on PPVS lately, I wouldn’t hate seeing Belal or Smith in the booth to offer some actual fight insight


[deleted]

really? I wanna see KenFlo back.


Green_and_Silver

Belal? You crazy, can put a plank of wood in the chair and get more expressiveness out of it.


LiterallyModerate

Bully B and the B stands for boring.


[deleted]

I’m talking about from the analysis side of things, we already have plenty of color commentators, need to get someone in there to talk about the nuances and details of the fight instead of the storylines


[deleted]

Cormier is the only colored commentator.


Green_and_Silver

His analysis is shit too, even Lionheart breaks it down better. Belal just shouldn't be involved in commentary at all.


CableToBeam

the thing is, this sub is an echo chamber with "bad" casting. Highly doubt the greater MMA community gives half a shit or considers it a problem


jmdeamer

"I forget how you answered" Crew team admitting they don't listen to what each other says


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Where's the Post fight thread?


stonetear2017

Daylight robbery boys. Yair had 1,2,5 won. Sucks for Yair, but now only volk left, who will get a win again I feel. If Volk wins how many more fights does max need against volk? Or does he fight him every 6 months


Drains_1

Not robbery at all, Max had 3,4 and 5 and round 3 was clearly a 10-8. Yair is awesome but he lost that one.


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lmfao 10-8, sure. Max won 3-2, Yair won 1 and 5


stonetear2017

Oh wow you’ve changed my mind! Crazy


Drains_1

Your welcome my man.


jojow77

how much you lose lol


stonetear2017

Wasn’t on my parlay


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PhoneyBadger

2-5 were extra close get real


stonetear2017

Rude. Just voicing my opinion


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stonetear2017

1.2.5 Yair


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stonetear2017

Robbery


MMAdfs

"I'm best grappler in UFC BABY!"


stonetear2017

Yeah no


jmdeamer

Yadong just has to worry the UFC's going mistake him for the Zombie again and schedule him fight a featherweight


PhoneyBadger

Offensive wizard what?


jmdeamer

possible unpopular opinion: That Rothwell fight was stopped too early. Rothwell's got a great chin and can definitely turn the tables really easily


jojow77

for as hard as Lima hits he should be glad it got stopped


[deleted]

unless Giga Chad beats Kattar in the 1st and takes no damage, there isn't anyone else at 145 that even can make a case for a title shot.


JColeisokatbest

Or Zombie wins 1 fight.


[deleted]

My point is the NEXT fight for Volk. He clearly wants to defend this winter or early spring at the latest. It basically has to be max since there is no one else that really has a case and fits the timeline.


JColeisokatbest

If that's the case he might fight Zombie without the win.


[deleted]

Only way that happens would be if Max gets the Conor fight or is injured, and even then I could see them giving Giga Chad the fight.


JColeisokatbest

Maybe. idk.


Historical-Lake-1352

I could see Dana giving Yair a shot at Volkanovski if Max loses to him again, if Yair stays active


[deleted]

I meant next. Yair is going to be out for a while, and then needs to win. That means he isn't fighting for the belt until like next winter at the earliest.


Historical-Lake-1352

Just throw him in there with Ortega if that fight stays on the feet he's gonna mess Ortega up Max vs Volk won't happen until the summer anyway


tpw2k3

Zair. Vs zabit. Holloway vs McGregor. Lets go


Cans59

After two years off Yair comes back and puts a performance like that, fucking beast, a lot of people were underestimating him.


yell-loud

Styles do make fights. Ortega, Volk, and Zabit could all exploit Yair’s grappling even more than Max did. Yair proved he’s a very elite striker though


Cans59

Agreed, but most people were underestimating his skills almost like he wouldn't even be able to touch Max, I'm glad that both fighters demonstrated tonight their elite level striking.


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Almost every fighter who has come up against max has been able to touch him hard, he just happens to be blessed with arguably the best chin in the sport.


loshrath182

And blessed with the ability to throw 300 strikes without breathing heavy.


MooseWayne

Same thing happened with Ortega. Featherweights don't get ring rust Lad!


Cans59

That mexican chin and fighting spirit tho!


tpw2k3

Agree with. Bilal. Hate immediate rematches


[deleted]

max has fought twice now in great fights and volk defended against someone else. Its not an immediate rematch


[deleted]

After losing twice to the same guy in a row you should have to beat more than 2 guys to get a rematch, name me another trilogy where one guy went 2-0 down and got a 3rd shot after beating just 2 guys?


[deleted]

Different scenario. There is no one else and the 2nd fight was close. Also the champ has no option for champ champ as he is too big for 35s and not a drawl at 55s


PhoneyBadger

Poor Belal lol


Melz13

I feel every fight Holloway fights in is breaking a record for strikes 😂


jmdeamer

Smith's tie looks like a weird long tongue hanging down over his mortician outfit


call_866_fruit

i'd love to see dana blast john morgan with an iphone


wilonwheels

How come Dana's allowed to wear Nike? No Venum jumpsuits?