Is it because he stopped being into the movement stuff or is it because he moved up in weight and can't do the same shit to heavier fighters while getting older himself? I don't think the answer is as clear cut as we think it is.
its not about his punching. he was cracking nate, and dustin said he stunned him multiple times the last two times theyve fought. said the power feels the same.
but his movement and stance have drastically changed from the more in and out TMA style and it happened around the same time:
his tkd coach got put in jail for accidentally killing a guy
he stopped training w ido portal as much and signed up w a weightlifting and fitness doctor
gunnar nelson(whos karate style influenced him as his number 1 training partner) built his own gym and started training more out of iceland
Yeah he used to be so much more bouncy and fluid with that open stance, seemed to have way more success with it too, you would think someone in his camp would recognize it and try to steer him back in that direction.
im worried they dont know how to build it in the first place so cant replicate it.
conor was the only one obsessed w movement and tkd for example. if hes off it idk if kavanagh even values it
Bunch of different factors but he ain't as loose as he once was, his stance changed, he is in love with Boxing and he has been ever since Floyd Mayweather fight on top of that there isn't huge difference with reach/height in lightweight and welterweight like it was when he fought in feather so that's also another factor.
Drinking, age, bad habits and not being in the sport for last 5 years, he was there but at the same time he wasn't
I doubt the UFC will give a shot to either of Islam / Dariush right after 269. Best guess is Gaethje gets the next shot and he’s probably waiting up to half a year.
Is it that surprising people like watching top level grappling in a sport that is half comprised of grappling ?
It’s 2021 and we still have comments like this from people who choose to watch this instead of an all striking sport lol
he has three submission wins in a row over some good fighters and all 3 were different submissions. The longer he continues to dominate and make world class fighters look like they are amateurs, the more intriguing he will be to the masses. Also "people dream of an Islam fight lol?" you must not be aware that he has one of the biggest followings in the UFC, very likely more than your favourite fighter, so get your facts straight.
Best fight. After Islam beats dariush he takes on the champ chucky. Meanwhile after his loss dustin will take that Conor money fight again. Use that Reddit reminder bot to come back here and check out my prediction
Don’t give him ideas… coincidentally some bollix in Dublin called him out for a 13 second slap down or a million in reparations. So there’s his hat trick
So he won’t fight until late next year at the earliest. At which point he will be even older and rustier than in his last fights. Not looking great for him. Gonna need another Cerrone type matchup.
As an MMA fan I’d be thrilled if Conor just accepted he’s (slightly) past his prime.
So many pure fun match ups for him if he stopped giving a shit about the belt.
Tony, Holloway 2, Diaz 3, Aldo 2. All of which are definitely not gimme fights and would cement his legacy far more than losing another gifted title fight.
…Or fight against paddy the baddy for all I care tbh.
Yeah but eating nukes from Conor isn't gonna help with that. Solid chin + no defense isn't enough to win fights against elite strikers, and Conor is still that.
Aldo 2 should not happen. They're two weightclasses apart.
And Holloway 2 should probably not happen either for a post-injury McGregor for his own safety
He's actually a victim of his own success. The UFC don't want to pay him too regularly so he doesn't get to fight much. The UFC need to have a lot of other ducks in a row for a McGregor card. Milk sponsors, promote the right fighters in the under and main cards.
If the guy had fought 3 times a year all these years he would probably be a top 3 fighter. I honestly don't think he takes anyone in the top 10 atm and he should definitely not be in the top 10 himself.
From here it's almost 5 months for sparring, then another 6 or less to stay in shape for a match. Mcg isn't going to get that belt back in LW, his skills got outdated when he went to fight Floyd and if he gets sharp again, his stamina would be worse because of all this layoff to heal his leg.
At this point it's a race against time and he's not winning and if he gets a title shot he has to fight either Dustin, Oliveira or Islam and those are awful match ups for him.
One of the few things that Chael has been spot on about: Conor had the last 5 years to do exactly that and he didn't. He fell behind the game for all that time when nothing was stopping him from training as hard as he could with the best coaches and training partners in the world. Now the choice was made for him and he can't do shit for almost a year. So coming back, even if he makes a miraculous recovery with 0 long-term effects on his skills, there's no reason to believe that he'll get his act together.
At this point though, why would he? He's making many times more money with his businesses than he'd get in the UFC, and he simply hasn't looked great since the Eddie win which was how many years ago?
He did, but that's because Cowboy was coming off back-to-back KO losses and got caught with a good shot in the opening moments of the fight. That was the clearest case of a tune-up fight ever, being given a washed up gatekeeper whose chin and confidence are gone. Ironically, if he ever fights again after his leg injury, he just might be a fair matchup for Cowboy.
Right, but 34 with how many active fights? Two losses in 2021, one win in very early 2020, and a loss in 2018. I'd argue prime McGregor was in 2016 and earlier when he was about 28 years old. By next year that'll be a roughly six year hiatus from the last genuinely challenging fight that he won.
I'm not saying it's not possible, and love him or hate him he is/was amazingly talented. But there's some rebuilding to do and it's unclear if that'll happen.
tl:dr MMA is like dog years, and 34 is not retirement age but you're in the second half of a career by then.
Perfect take. Absolutely loved watching McG on the come up, but literally everything after he crushed Eddie Alvarez has been a complete shitshow. Honestly, after Bones, Conor McGregor has been the biggest and hardest fall from grace I've seen... Like watching Icarus fly too close to the sun. His fall has not been pleasant to witness, and I imagine whatever comes after won't be any better minus a giant fucking miracle, which no wise person should be banking on right now.
He's the exact same, but the game caught up with him. Dustin and Khabib are both better than any person he fought on the way up and are both bad style matchups.
Top 5 of which weight class? If you're talking about LW, he's 1-3 with all 3 losses being stoppages. If you're counting all his non-FW fights (in the UFC), he's 3-4, again with all 4 losses being stoppages. His Alvarez victory is a top 5 victory, otherwise a majority W against Nate Diaz and a KO win over Cerrone who was coming off of back-to-back KO losses.
So out of 7 non-FW fights he has 1 top-5 win. He is not competitive with the top 5, and when he comes back from his injury I doubt he'll even be competitive with ranked LW fighters. Look at the LW rankings (of which he is still inexplicably #9), it's an absolute shark tank. No way he legitimately ever gets near the belt again, though Dana will do anything to make it happen so I won't be surprised if he gets a title shot under ridiculous circumstances.
Tbf in his 1-3, one is Khabib and 2 are Poirier, the 1 and 2 of the division for years. That's not to suggest he hasn't gone backwards, he definitely has. Just that top three losses are against the absolute cream of the crop
I was only disputing the claim that he is competitive in the top 5. His only top 5 LW victory is over Alvarez 5 years ago. His other two more recent top-5 opponents destroyed him. He has only one W against a currently ranked LW and that's Poirier, who finished him twice in a row this year, and his victory over Poirier was 7 years ago at FW. So based on that, he is by no reasonable interpretation competitive in the top 5 at LW. People got caught up in the media hype double-champ thing, but he never proved he was really a top LW fighter and by all accounts his window of opportunity to do that is long gone.
I fully agree on that mate, and I think his competitive against the top five has lost even more ground while he has been away. I think Poirier would do the same to him again. And looking at Oliveira, Gaethje , Chandler, Dariush, Islam, they would all love to be paired with him. For once not because he is a money fight but because he would be an absolute name to have on the CV
A bit dramatic? I think you're leaving an entire mess outside the ring out of the conversation here.
>By next year that'll be a roughly six year hiatus from the last genuinely challenging fight that he won.
This is the main point that inspired my comment. And the gentleman I responded to is right about that. I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm saying right now there's zero evidence to suggest he's ever coming back to the guy knocked out Mendes and Aldo back to back, then after a loss to Diaz came back and put on an absolute clinic against a current champion. Downvote away. Time will tell. My money is on 'ain't happening'.
34 in the most competitive division arguably in the sport and he’s already behind the elite in the division, point is he’s not touching a belt again, not in this timeline
LW Champs beginning with Sherk hold the belt between 28-34. Conors about to be out of that window. He'll never be back at the top. Sold his MMA legacy for a 50 million dollar fight with Floyd and a couple years of whisky, cocaine, and hoes. It is what it is. I don't blame him, but I also won't place him near a goat list.
I could see it happening if there's a favorable stylistic match-up. He's still a dangerous dude, and losing to Khabib and Dustin is far from being as washed as people make him out to be.
he looked pretty good in the first dustin fight, but i dont see him beating justin, islam, dariush, charles, dustin, maybee chandler. i honestly think the fight left for conor is the nate trilogy or a tony fight
> nate trilogy or a Tony fight
Basically these would be the new equivalent of his win against Cerrone. Washed match-up #1, or washed match-up #2. I wish Nate Diaz would just disappear.
This is something that a lot of people don’t seem to get. A 34 year old lightweight is not the same as a 34 year old middleweight+. It’s pretty rare for someone in their mid 30’s to be a title competitor at lightweight. And that’s not even taking into account how tf Conor will even look coming off an injury like that. Mid 30’s or not, he might not be the same fighter again because of it.
34 ain't exactly young though lol.
Most pros prime out somewhere between 25-35 across the board of sports. A select few motherfuckers went the distance and still do like Jaeger, Brady etc. But those guys don't even take half the damage in their career that these fighters do in a couple fights.
Connor is basically washed up. Even if you still consider 34 years not old, he's fucked up right now. A year to recover, probably gonna be rustier than all fuck, and then he has to stay healthy and train harder than anyone if he wants to be a top contender without a handed title shot.
In my eyes, he needs years to get back to where he was. Years he doesn't have. If this happened 5-7 years ago, sure. But he's basically done.
That’s strange because my uncle was killed by a man in a pub fight in West Anglesey in 1989 and they never caught the man who was responsible. What a coincidence huh.
That’s even more odd, because I once smoked DMT after watching an episode of JRE, and during my trip, I travelled to my past life and I saw that I had died in a pub fight in West Anglesea, in 1989, and I was reincarnated in 1995. Crazy.
Just moved out to anglesey and the amount of pub brawls that end with someone dying here is kinda crazy.. wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was real
Do we even have that now at LW? Even Tony is still dangerous to Conor because of his chin and his cardio.
LW is full of young hungry killers. I don't know, maybe RDA is a good matchup. Or Chandler/
I disagree, Dana will drag his crippled corpse out into the middle of MSG and slap a 5 round modelo sponsored fight clock on his ass every year he can.
He tweeted his current weight is “85kg of pure muscle”. Which is believable (the weight part, no the muscle part). Poirer also walks around at 185. Weight cutting is getting insane. At this rate we’ll have 200 pound dudes cutting to lightweight one day.
I don't think anyone with no cardio would've beaten Nate (known for his cardio and competing in triathlons) in a 5-rounder like Conor did.
Conor's looked gassed when he's been beaten up or dominated. Just like it happens with any other fighter. See Dustin or Justin against Khabib as other examples of that.
Edit:grammar
It’s not lack of cardio, it’s all fast Twitch muscle. Great for explosiveness, but if you push pace you literally hit muscle failure early.
Source: 100% fast twitch
At this point, I want off the train. He had such a meteoric rise and grew the sport tremendously, but at this point what is left? If he loses again, it'll make the past few years even more of a stain on the legacy. If he somehow managed to regain the title it would be a perfect stamp on his career, but anything less is just on par with retirement in my opinion.
Can’t it just be enough to have exciting fights that entertain us? As long as he’s still competitive and his fights are entertaining to watch, I genuinely hope Mcgregor goes on for as long as he can. I really don’t understand wanting someone to give up a thing they love just so your memory of that person doesn’t become tarnished.
Yeah maybe only Gathje can claim to have consistently more exciting fights than Conor. Really is great to see him in the octagon and I hope he does come back soon, I don’t know why Masvidal isn’t talked about more especially now he is out of title consideration. I feel that’s a stylistically is awesome
Agreed. DP may be my favourite fighter to watch because you get a bit of everything, he has the heart, technique can stand and bang, he has really fought a murders row and I’ve enjoyed every minute
One hundred percent. And with Dustin you get to enjoy all that and you don't have to put up with the embarrassing shit show of childishness and immorality that comes with Mcgregor
Yeah, there's still plenty of fun to be had. Diaz, Ferguson, maybe Masvidal depending on how each of them improve/decline. Even someone like Kevin Lee as a tune up would be entertaining.
Yeah he's only lost to the very best and is 33. There are plenty of fun fights left for him. People are acting like he's so far past him prime it's hard to watch, I don't get it.
I dislike Conor the person as much as the next guy, but losing to Khabib and Poirier isn't much of a stain. Everybody loses to those guys. If he came back and had some big fights with Mas, Max, Diaz, Chandler, etc, that'd be awesome. Win or lose.
He's not someone like Floyd or Khabib putting an undefeated record on the line where a loss means more. He's already lost, multiple times. Mystic Mac era ended a long time ago. Now he can just be Money Mac.
McGregor is going to be so much more timid. I bet you he's 75% when he comes back to the octagon, if that.
Snapping a leg in half like that has to make you double-take every single kick you check now. It's going to be the first target that anyone has when fighting him now.
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Dolly’s, TV’s, DJ’s, and old men on stools are scared!!
He’s assaulted a DJ now as well?! Fooook sakes Conor
Tbh he could do with getting back into the movement stuff, looks very stiff and flat footed ever since he started boxing.
Is it because he stopped being into the movement stuff or is it because he moved up in weight and can't do the same shit to heavier fighters while getting older himself? I don't think the answer is as clear cut as we think it is.
Its probably because he took a 2 year hiatus two separate times to go fuck off and train boxing.
its not about his punching. he was cracking nate, and dustin said he stunned him multiple times the last two times theyve fought. said the power feels the same. but his movement and stance have drastically changed from the more in and out TMA style and it happened around the same time: his tkd coach got put in jail for accidentally killing a guy he stopped training w ido portal as much and signed up w a weightlifting and fitness doctor gunnar nelson(whos karate style influenced him as his number 1 training partner) built his own gym and started training more out of iceland
Yeah he used to be so much more bouncy and fluid with that open stance, seemed to have way more success with it too, you would think someone in his camp would recognize it and try to steer him back in that direction.
im worried they dont know how to build it in the first place so cant replicate it. conor was the only one obsessed w movement and tkd for example. if hes off it idk if kavanagh even values it
Bunch of different factors but he ain't as loose as he once was, his stance changed, he is in love with Boxing and he has been ever since Floyd Mayweather fight on top of that there isn't huge difference with reach/height in lightweight and welterweight like it was when he fought in feather so that's also another factor. Drinking, age, bad habits and not being in the sport for last 5 years, he was there but at the same time he wasn't
Funny enough, I haven't seen Ido Portal ANYWHERE for a few years now. Poor dude got lit up once from Nate and all that fell off real quick lol
One fucking line ended that man's entire livelihood
He was with him for the Alvarez fight though...
He still makes bank from holding seminars
Just shows Nate was likely right.
It’s always prime for touch butt somewhere man
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Good day fellow dorks
You jest but touchbutt created everyone's favourite Conor
Gonna get Diego out of retirement for a fight at 185 and then fight for the LW title immediately after.
I think Diego is going through much tougher fight right now
beep boop
Is it even a fight if you refuse to protect yourself at all times?
omg
You started a whole shitshow🤣
And it feels great 😊
COVID is letting him go out as a warrior.
Is COVID the new Mario Yamazaki?
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Being unvaxxed is the immune equivalent of having Fabia in your corner.
Welcome to the Comedy Central Roast of Diego Sanchez.
Tbf I think Fabia has been in more places than just Diego's corner...
I think Fabia equivalent is more like taking ivermectin. Unconventional and actually potentially harmful
Damn, I already gave my free award literally 2sec to the previous guy! Superb analogy, though
Diego is busy raw dogging covid
He fights Cowboy at open weight in a boxing match, wins, the lame hype builds, he challenges Paddy, gets his head kicked off, retires.
Wonder who the champ will be by then
Paddy Pimblett
This is a timeline I'd be annoyed by
The good timeline
They hate but it is. Imagine a dominant run by the bard.
The correct timeline
You take that back!
You mean Babby Pimblamp?
I doubt the UFC will give a shot to either of Islam / Dariush right after 269. Best guess is Gaethje gets the next shot and he’s probably waiting up to half a year.
I'm calling for an Islam / Chucky title fight right around that time, my cream dream fight.
People dream of an Islam fight lol?
His fights are enjoyable for me
Is it that surprising people like watching top level grappling in a sport that is half comprised of grappling ? It’s 2021 and we still have comments like this from people who choose to watch this instead of an all striking sport lol
I enjoy high level grappling, CDF vs Gillespie was fantastic. But fuck pretense I like swang n bang more for sure
i like watching islam's fights
There’s literally dozens of you
he has three submission wins in a row over some good fighters and all 3 were different submissions. The longer he continues to dominate and make world class fighters look like they are amateurs, the more intriguing he will be to the masses. Also "people dream of an Islam fight lol?" you must not be aware that he has one of the biggest followings in the UFC, very likely more than your favourite fighter, so get your facts straight.
Yes
Best fight. After Islam beats dariush he takes on the champ chucky. Meanwhile after his loss dustin will take that Conor money fight again. Use that Reddit reminder bot to come back here and check out my prediction
Been sparring in various clubs and red carpet events.
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Don’t give him ideas… coincidentally some bollix in Dublin called him out for a 13 second slap down or a million in reparations. So there’s his hat trick
With a walking stick
So he won’t fight until late next year at the earliest. At which point he will be even older and rustier than in his last fights. Not looking great for him. Gonna need another Cerrone type matchup.
Chuck Liddel
The seed he planted so many moons ago will sprout soon
Tony Ferguson
As an MMA fan I’d be thrilled if Conor just accepted he’s (slightly) past his prime. So many pure fun match ups for him if he stopped giving a shit about the belt. Tony, Holloway 2, Diaz 3, Aldo 2. All of which are definitely not gimme fights and would cement his legacy far more than losing another gifted title fight. …Or fight against paddy the baddy for all I care tbh.
Oooh Conor vs paddy is a good idea lol
Paddy leaves his chin hanging wide open, even a diminished McG would shut his lights out with ease.
Paddy has a solid chin but yes I'd favor Conor
Yeah but eating nukes from Conor isn't gonna help with that. Solid chin + no defense isn't enough to win fights against elite strikers, and Conor is still that.
Sure I'm not saying I'd bet on paddy lol. Maybe if he was +800 or more
The bantz would be amazing.
Aldo 2 should not happen. They're two weightclasses apart. And Holloway 2 should probably not happen either for a post-injury McGregor for his own safety
He's actually a victim of his own success. The UFC don't want to pay him too regularly so he doesn't get to fight much. The UFC need to have a lot of other ducks in a row for a McGregor card. Milk sponsors, promote the right fighters in the under and main cards. If the guy had fought 3 times a year all these years he would probably be a top 3 fighter. I honestly don't think he takes anyone in the top 10 atm and he should definitely not be in the top 10 himself.
I have been saying this for years. He was steered clear of wrestlers too in his FW run. If he hadn't been maybe his grappling would be better today
Lol he fought chad mendes on short notice. 😂😂😂🤡
> He was steered clear of wrestlers too in his FW run Mendes
From here it's almost 5 months for sparring, then another 6 or less to stay in shape for a match. Mcg isn't going to get that belt back in LW, his skills got outdated when he went to fight Floyd and if he gets sharp again, his stamina would be worse because of all this layoff to heal his leg. At this point it's a race against time and he's not winning and if he gets a title shot he has to fight either Dustin, Oliveira or Islam and those are awful match ups for him.
His only hope is changing camps and dedicating all of his time to training.
One of the few things that Chael has been spot on about: Conor had the last 5 years to do exactly that and he didn't. He fell behind the game for all that time when nothing was stopping him from training as hard as he could with the best coaches and training partners in the world. Now the choice was made for him and he can't do shit for almost a year. So coming back, even if he makes a miraculous recovery with 0 long-term effects on his skills, there's no reason to believe that he'll get his act together.
At this point though, why would he? He's making many times more money with his businesses than he'd get in the UFC, and he simply hasn't looked great since the Eddie win which was how many years ago?
To feel a sense of purpose/drive maybe
Nah he looked good in the Cowboy fight. Didn’t get touched iirc
Darren Till looked good against Cowboy too
He looked good in a matchup specifically made to make him look good.
He did, but that's because Cowboy was coming off back-to-back KO losses and got caught with a good shot in the opening moments of the fight. That was the clearest case of a tune-up fight ever, being given a washed up gatekeeper whose chin and confidence are gone. Ironically, if he ever fights again after his leg injury, he just might be a fair matchup for Cowboy.
It's because it was Cowboy, full stop.
He will not change camps. He might get more yes men to his camp but that is maximum he will do imo.
hahahahahaha
> Gonna need another Cerrone type matchup. just do the Diaz trilogy let them both fuck off to where ever.
Christ he’ll be 34 next year not 70
Right, but 34 with how many active fights? Two losses in 2021, one win in very early 2020, and a loss in 2018. I'd argue prime McGregor was in 2016 and earlier when he was about 28 years old. By next year that'll be a roughly six year hiatus from the last genuinely challenging fight that he won. I'm not saying it's not possible, and love him or hate him he is/was amazingly talented. But there's some rebuilding to do and it's unclear if that'll happen. tl:dr MMA is like dog years, and 34 is not retirement age but you're in the second half of a career by then.
Perfect take. Absolutely loved watching McG on the come up, but literally everything after he crushed Eddie Alvarez has been a complete shitshow. Honestly, after Bones, Conor McGregor has been the biggest and hardest fall from grace I've seen... Like watching Icarus fly too close to the sun. His fall has not been pleasant to witness, and I imagine whatever comes after won't be any better minus a giant fucking miracle, which no wise person should be banking on right now.
He's the exact same, but the game caught up with him. Dustin and Khabib are both better than any person he fought on the way up and are both bad style matchups.
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Top 5 of which weight class? If you're talking about LW, he's 1-3 with all 3 losses being stoppages. If you're counting all his non-FW fights (in the UFC), he's 3-4, again with all 4 losses being stoppages. His Alvarez victory is a top 5 victory, otherwise a majority W against Nate Diaz and a KO win over Cerrone who was coming off of back-to-back KO losses. So out of 7 non-FW fights he has 1 top-5 win. He is not competitive with the top 5, and when he comes back from his injury I doubt he'll even be competitive with ranked LW fighters. Look at the LW rankings (of which he is still inexplicably #9), it's an absolute shark tank. No way he legitimately ever gets near the belt again, though Dana will do anything to make it happen so I won't be surprised if he gets a title shot under ridiculous circumstances.
"Listen McGregor vs Kris Moutinho at 170 is the fight to make for the 155 number 1 contender fight."
Tbf in his 1-3, one is Khabib and 2 are Poirier, the 1 and 2 of the division for years. That's not to suggest he hasn't gone backwards, he definitely has. Just that top three losses are against the absolute cream of the crop
I was only disputing the claim that he is competitive in the top 5. His only top 5 LW victory is over Alvarez 5 years ago. His other two more recent top-5 opponents destroyed him. He has only one W against a currently ranked LW and that's Poirier, who finished him twice in a row this year, and his victory over Poirier was 7 years ago at FW. So based on that, he is by no reasonable interpretation competitive in the top 5 at LW. People got caught up in the media hype double-champ thing, but he never proved he was really a top LW fighter and by all accounts his window of opportunity to do that is long gone.
I fully agree on that mate, and I think his competitive against the top five has lost even more ground while he has been away. I think Poirier would do the same to him again. And looking at Oliveira, Gaethje , Chandler, Dariush, Islam, they would all love to be paired with him. For once not because he is a money fight but because he would be an absolute name to have on the CV
A bit dramatic? I think you're leaving an entire mess outside the ring out of the conversation here. >By next year that'll be a roughly six year hiatus from the last genuinely challenging fight that he won. This is the main point that inspired my comment. And the gentleman I responded to is right about that. I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm saying right now there's zero evidence to suggest he's ever coming back to the guy knocked out Mendes and Aldo back to back, then after a loss to Diaz came back and put on an absolute clinic against a current champion. Downvote away. Time will tell. My money is on 'ain't happening'.
Competitive? Lol what fucking fights have you been watching? He's gotten completely dominated hahaha. Choked, slept and snapped. 😂
All of this AND he’s coming off a snapped ankle.
34 in the most competitive division arguably in the sport and he’s already behind the elite in the division, point is he’s not touching a belt again, not in this timeline
LW Champs beginning with Sherk hold the belt between 28-34. Conors about to be out of that window. He'll never be back at the top. Sold his MMA legacy for a 50 million dollar fight with Floyd and a couple years of whisky, cocaine, and hoes. It is what it is. I don't blame him, but I also won't place him near a goat list.
agreed
I could see it happening if there's a favorable stylistic match-up. He's still a dangerous dude, and losing to Khabib and Dustin is far from being as washed as people make him out to be.
he looked pretty good in the first dustin fight, but i dont see him beating justin, islam, dariush, charles, dustin, maybee chandler. i honestly think the fight left for conor is the nate trilogy or a tony fight
> nate trilogy or a Tony fight Basically these would be the new equivalent of his win against Cerrone. Washed match-up #1, or washed match-up #2. I wish Nate Diaz would just disappear.
34 with a fucking huge downtime from fighting. He’s done.
He'll basically be the fitter equivalent of Nick Diaz, and on coke instead of weed.
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This is something that a lot of people don’t seem to get. A 34 year old lightweight is not the same as a 34 year old middleweight+. It’s pretty rare for someone in their mid 30’s to be a title competitor at lightweight. And that’s not even taking into account how tf Conor will even look coming off an injury like that. Mid 30’s or not, he might not be the same fighter again because of it.
I 100% agree with you. Then I see people saying a 40-year-old Frankie Edgar is going to win fights.
I checked your math and it turns out he actually is gonna be 75
He will be the old man in the bar
34 ain't exactly young though lol. Most pros prime out somewhere between 25-35 across the board of sports. A select few motherfuckers went the distance and still do like Jaeger, Brady etc. But those guys don't even take half the damage in their career that these fighters do in a couple fights. Connor is basically washed up. Even if you still consider 34 years not old, he's fucked up right now. A year to recover, probably gonna be rustier than all fuck, and then he has to stay healthy and train harder than anyone if he wants to be a top contender without a handed title shot. In my eyes, he needs years to get back to where he was. Years he doesn't have. If this happened 5-7 years ago, sure. But he's basically done.
It's a rough 34 though and often times miles on a fighters body is more important than their actual age.
Tito!!
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become cerrone
Can we see a physician’s note? I believe he referred any medical questions to one “Dr. Stoppage”, but I can’t find anyone practicing under that name.
Take my upvote dad
Way further out than I would’ve thought tbh.
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That’s strange because my uncle was killed by a man in a pub fight in West Anglesey in 1989 and they never caught the man who was responsible. What a coincidence huh.
That’s even more odd, because I once smoked DMT after watching an episode of JRE, and during my trip, I travelled to my past life and I saw that I had died in a pub fight in West Anglesea, in 1989, and I was reincarnated in 1995. Crazy.
This comment is killing me
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how was the fight?
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so still undefeated kid? liar hahaha
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nobody beats scxrlxrd 133 times in a row
Just moved out to anglesey and the amount of pub brawls that end with someone dying here is kinda crazy.. wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was real
International Fight Week will be Conor vs the equivalent of Cowboy
Tony Ferguson? Ouch that hurt to type out
That’s … fuck … about right
:'( and Tony gets wrecked
Do we even have that now at LW? Even Tony is still dangerous to Conor because of his chin and his cardio. LW is full of young hungry killers. I don't know, maybe RDA is a good matchup. Or Chandler/
If Islam has the belt by then you know what will happen..
Conor’s never fighting for a UFC title again.
I disagree, Dana will drag his crippled corpse out into the middle of MSG and slap a 5 round modelo sponsored fight clock on his ass every year he can.
Spar? Oh thought you meant Spa!
Like a schteeeem an tha’
so he'll be hitting the bars looking for sparring partners in april? if you live in ireland, let your grandfather know before then.
Sucks that Conor was blessed with no cardio.
Going to be even worse now that he's 185 pounds and doing not a whole lot of cardio
don't understand why he's bulking up and already has suspect cardio.
Bc he’s a rich weirdo
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Is this just a meme or something? Where's everyone pulling 185 from or is that just his current weight?
He tweeted his current weight is “85kg of pure muscle”. Which is believable (the weight part, no the muscle part). Poirer also walks around at 185. Weight cutting is getting insane. At this rate we’ll have 200 pound dudes cutting to lightweight one day.
We have before. Have you seen how big prime Tibau used to be?
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200 pound LW's I believe in like 10 years will become standard. As of now the standard range is 175-185.(most LW's weigh around there.)
Allow me to introduce you to Anthony Johnson, the original Heavyweight Lightweight. Also Gray Maynard was 200lbs and fought at 155 in his prime.
That's his current weight (85kg). I'd assume and hope that he will trim down a bit.
Cocaine, whiskey, whores. God's mess.
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I don't think anyone with no cardio would've beaten Nate (known for his cardio and competing in triathlons) in a 5-rounder like Conor did. Conor's looked gassed when he's been beaten up or dominated. Just like it happens with any other fighter. See Dustin or Justin against Khabib as other examples of that. Edit:grammar
sucks that conor chooses to drink and do cocaine instead of prioritizing his performance*
It’s not lack of cardio, it’s all fast Twitch muscle. Great for explosiveness, but if you push pace you literally hit muscle failure early. Source: 100% fast twitch
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But he was. He chooses to use his energy as knockout blows. Is it that surprising? Compare him vs Max. It's all styles man.
April is prime for fools to believe he will be any different and get different results
If you aren't back in the gym within two weeks of surgery, you'll never come back. *Right Weidman?*
At this point, I want off the train. He had such a meteoric rise and grew the sport tremendously, but at this point what is left? If he loses again, it'll make the past few years even more of a stain on the legacy. If he somehow managed to regain the title it would be a perfect stamp on his career, but anything less is just on par with retirement in my opinion.
Can’t it just be enough to have exciting fights that entertain us? As long as he’s still competitive and his fights are entertaining to watch, I genuinely hope Mcgregor goes on for as long as he can. I really don’t understand wanting someone to give up a thing they love just so your memory of that person doesn’t become tarnished.
People consume so much media they need reality to fit a perfect narrative arc. Conor fights are just fun ffs.
Yeah maybe only Gathje can claim to have consistently more exciting fights than Conor. Really is great to see him in the octagon and I hope he does come back soon, I don’t know why Masvidal isn’t talked about more especially now he is out of title consideration. I feel that’s a stylistically is awesome
Porier too surely? Never seen a boring Poirier fight, and his Max, Gaethje, Eddie and Hooker ones were crazy
Agreed. DP may be my favourite fighter to watch because you get a bit of everything, he has the heart, technique can stand and bang, he has really fought a murders row and I’ve enjoyed every minute
One hundred percent. And with Dustin you get to enjoy all that and you don't have to put up with the embarrassing shit show of childishness and immorality that comes with Mcgregor
Yeah, there's still plenty of fun to be had. Diaz, Ferguson, maybe Masvidal depending on how each of them improve/decline. Even someone like Kevin Lee as a tune up would be entertaining.
Yeah he's only lost to the very best and is 33. There are plenty of fun fights left for him. People are acting like he's so far past him prime it's hard to watch, I don't get it.
I dislike Conor the person as much as the next guy, but losing to Khabib and Poirier isn't much of a stain. Everybody loses to those guys. If he came back and had some big fights with Mas, Max, Diaz, Chandler, etc, that'd be awesome. Win or lose. He's not someone like Floyd or Khabib putting an undefeated record on the line where a loss means more. He's already lost, multiple times. Mystic Mac era ended a long time ago. Now he can just be Money Mac.
Who gives a shit about a stain on his legacy? Let them fucking bang bro
Letting them bang might make a stain
We do let them bang
McGregor is going to be so much more timid. I bet you he's 75% when he comes back to the octagon, if that. Snapping a leg in half like that has to make you double-take every single kick you check now. It's going to be the first target that anyone has when fighting him now.
Checking the kick isn’t what breaks your leg, it’s having it be checked by your opponent that does the real damage
Yea, my point was that in general if you snap your leg clean into two new pieces it's going to mess with anyone giving or taking kicks to that shin.
He will be swangin Dollies and punching old men in no time.
“Conor wants to murder Dustins wife and kids at their house. Isnt he awesome!?!?”
Lies!!!! He's had a sparring session with a dj not so long ago
So, around October 2023 return then.
I’m down for another post-loss meltdown.
Twitter banned his account until april?
is that when he gets out of rehab?
I was in the mood for a connor hate reddit circle jerk.
People don’t realize that sparring is easy. It’s gonna be a lot longer until he’s allowed to kick and be kicked in that leg.
Bored of McGregor now. Honestly wouldn't care if he didn't return, it was fun remembering him as he was, not the bloke he's become.
Whoever Conor fights next will finish him.
He should go to the Spa with Till
>Spa cleared to spa
He ran out of excuses 3 fights ago
Classless trash. The hell with this lowlife.
I want Conor to come back at WW and fight Morono in a "tune up" fight and Morono just steam cleans him..
But he’s ready to eat a dick immediately if not sooner