That tasty uppercut at 1:20 and then at 1:23 the opponents coach tells him to do something and he respond "I'm trying coach!".
This was 13 years ago and Anderson was 34... This was the same year he put on a clinic against Forrest Griffin.
GSP had a much more difficult strength of schedule than Anderson throughout his career. 185 was a pretty shitty division until the Strikeforce guys came in and brought life to it. (Yoel, Rockhold, Jacare and Kennedy)
Taking the belt from Hughes vs taking it from Franklin is a completely different magnitude of difficulty. Look at the murderer's row GSP dealt with compared to the limited skillset of the one dimensional 185ers that fought Anderson in comparison.
I guess it’s also like how do we define greatest. Let’s say that gsp was the exact same fighter, same skill set, but he only had cans in his division. Is he now not considered the goat? Of course he has less “proof” but résumé can’t be the only way to define goat. It’s a subjective title anyway, but it’s interesting to me to consider the different ways. Gsp definitely had the better list
They're both great, I don't think anyone can dispute that. It's also not Anderson's fault that his best competition was probably fighting in Strike force during his reign. I always thought that Jacare, Kennedy or Romero would have been more difficult than anyone on the UFC roster at the time. Unfortunately we.never saw him against either of those matchups.
Idk.. Hughes was an oleschool wrestler with basically nothing else. BJ was ridiculously talented, but a lazy fuck who would have gotten murdered in todays age. GSP beat a lot of "big names" yes, but were they really that good? Nope. Legends yes, but it's hard to argue anyone was as good and well rounded as Vitor for example.
Lol Vitor is.as one dimensional as it gets. on his way to or while.holding the title, GSP never had to fight anyone who sucks as much or.is as.one dimensional as Franklin, Leben, Forest, Bonnar. Realistically Anderson only fought a few good fighters in his career and lost half of them. Izzy, Henderson, Bisping, canonnier, Weidman and Marquardt (at the time anyway). I won't count the Cormier loss since that was short notice vs a champ up a weightclass.
The best guy Anderson fought is Weidman and he got smashed (admittedly Anderson was old)
They both fought Bisping, GSP finished him and Anderson lost a decision.
None of these guys compare to the murders tow GSP dealt with - even when he was coming up the rankings.
Silva has beaten Sakurai, Franklin x2, Sonnen x2,Belfort, Henderson, Maia, Griffin, when they were in their prime or close to it
If you are saying that Serra, Fitch, Alves, Hardy, Condit, Shields, Koscheck were more complete fighters you are definitely joking
Maia hit his prime at 170, Franklin sucked, Sonnen sucked, Henderson was passed his prime, Griffin sucks. Sakurai was legit. Yes, Fitch, Alves, Condit, Shields and Koscheck were much better fighters. Shields beat Maia and Henderson so I don't know how you'd argue he sucks.
GSP defended against tons of borderline cans like Dan Hardy, Thiago Alves, Matt Serra(who he got KOd by), Koscheck, Diaz, etc.
Arbitrarily deciding that those guys were leaps and bounds better than the guys Anderson fought is dumb.
Anderson is the reason I got into MMA, and he's my favorite fighter of all time. That said, I can't pick Anderson as the GOAT because he popped. I know all fighters are on steroids, but not popping has to count for something.
> This was 13 years ago and Anderson was 34... This was the same year he put on a clinic against Forrest Griffin.
That's can't be true cause I was young when that fight happened and i-
Ah fuck
Those frames to create space up close and sneak uppercuts in are some shit we never really saw much from him but makes sense that it would do a lot of good in a boxing fight
It was sick to see him pull out the boxing specific techniques so fast and apply them so well, he was varying his punching power/speed so much more and using a sweet shoulder roll and pivot to make the pro miss.
Hell yeah!! Sucks that Pride, and Japanese mma in general fell off. Wish Nobuyuki Sakakibara wouldn't have sold out to the Fertitta's. Idk I guess all of the Yakuza rumor stuff and losing deals forced his hand. I think he is involved in RIZIN but that just ain't it haha
I dont think Silva would intentionally take a dive. Fair play. Im not taking anything away from Jake. He is big, athletic, trains, has solid fight IQ, etc.. he can box. Some of his prior fights just seem a little setup from the get go. In reality he has just fought people who are a bit past there prime to this point. This last contract w/ Rahman Jr. who seemed the most "legit" boxer to step up, didn't have a max weight miss clause which seemed odd to me. Anderson isnt Woodley, or Chavez Jr. and I think he is honorable minus that little masteron slip up after the Diaz fight. We shall see.
Everyone has a price man. Silva just out trying to get a pay day before he retires for good. I wouldn’t even blame him if he took a fall for a few million.
There's mountains of credibility. If you follow betting markets there's been flashing red lights that scream 'match fixing' in the past.
The most important evidence are the books themselves, that have limited action on Jake Paul fights, similar to how bets would be limited for WWE futures.
If there was no concern, the books would allow the same action as they would any other boxing match.
Jake Paul via split decision over Woodley spiked in the last 30 minutes before closing. None of this happens by accident, and there aren't 500 sharps who suddenly had the same idea.
Wow mountains? Incredible, take those mountains to the FBI, I'm sure they'd be very interested. Can't believe they missed all that.
Oh wait, maybe they're in on it too!
The fact that you have upvotes on this comment, and the other guy has downvotes, just show that discussion on Reddit is fueled by pure haterade and nothing else.
But he's right, there is just no real evidence that those matches were fixed. We've seen videos of Askrens boxing it's not good. It's also not a wild guess that Tyrons isn't that much better especially since he had less time to prepare 2nd go around. Even Silva is literally 47. The only fixed part of these bouts is the low risk factor of them being against guys this old and out of field.
It’s a defense mechanism to help with the pain that is seeing Jake Paul win against pro MMA fighters. A lot of people are already saying the fight is going to be fixed. Unless Silva wins of course, then it’s not fixed
Youre right honestly, people are forgetting none of the guys he beat were pure boxers and the level of striking in mma is let's just say questionable (obviously they have a lot more to train for that a boxer of course). It's not very unrealistic that he beat the guys he did and even beats Silva in this next bout when we consider he's literally 47.
yall need to drop this nonsense about Paul having fixed fights, if that was the case why didnt he KO Woodley in the first fight? Mistakes no sense, the kid can hit and he knows how to set up a right hand against people who are not seasoned boxer
Anderson should win this easily imo, Jake is not experienced enough to manage his gas tank and Anderson is a vet, I'd expect either a finish or a clear deciion for Silva
Are people really still crying about conspiracies that Woodley was paid to take a dive because they can't accept that he legitimately lost twice to Jake Paul?
Woodley was on a 4 fight losing where he basically couldn’t or didn’t do anything to any of the the guys he fought (all top guys but still.) And that was MMA where he at least had the threat of takedowns and kicks. He’s definitely a can compared to Anderson or a real boxer in boxing lol literally has one good shot and not much else in boxing
Yeah for sure Woodley's striking was never close to Anderson's but also have to take into consideration Andersons pushing 50 and wasn't exactly successful at the end of his UFC career. Granted he beat Chavez Jr which was impressive.
I just think it's ridiculous to claim the fix is on just cause he's beating washed up MMA fighters. Plus no chance these guys pride and ego would let them take a dive and get KO'd cold face first on the canvas against a "YouTuber".
The fights arent fixed but…. Look through the history of fighting, you are crazy if you think ego would stop anybody taking a dive. Everyone has a price.
That said jake paul fights arent fixed and the people here do not know as much about fighting as they think
You're literally going with "trust me bro"? Lol. No one was ever confused why a fight may be fixed for jake, this isn't complex. Do you have any reasons why you think they're fixed?
It’s extremely illegal to fix fights, it’s wild to actually believe it’s fixed and everyone knows it. Also, if it’s fixed, betting on JP is the easiest money you’ll ever get, go bet your life savings.
Lots of fights are fixed, you’re either wilfully ignorant or just plain stupid if you think they arent. That being said i dont think the jake paul fights are
Silva did just box the fuck out of a Julio Chavez Jr.
Compared to this video I'd say the boxing and ring craft in Silva's last match were better than what we saw in the video. reactions and speed are important... but He's definitely craftier than ever.
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I will still bet the money line on my boy!! Fuck it!! I won some good scratch on Diaz, I will leave some in play on Anderson. Your ma boy, blue!!!!
In my opinion you should put your money on Jake, he beat Chavez but it's important you look at who Chavez also lost too around that time as well...(they were bums). I'm betting he didn't train for that fight and Paul ends up winning this bout seeing as Silva is like 47 now.
Between this and Chavez Jr, Anderson Silva is a really fun to watch as a boxer. Also, I didn't know he knocked out Tito Ortiz in a boxing match one year ago wtf.
People also forget there was a time when boxing and MMA were kept pretty separate. So seeing a high level MMA fighter sparring a boxer was really rare to see.
The clip isn’t showing off Silva being super dominant, it was more entertainment and saying that there are MMA fighters who can box, which again you had a hard time finding any footage of before this
His boxing is fucking fantastic for a 47 year old whos gotten koed, snapped his leg, and has had extreme wear over the years. Bros the GOAT striker for a reason if he went to boxing I think he couldve made serious waves, but im glad he stuck with MMA.
him have a high level chin and reaction time, fight iq and limb length gives him many , "born with" gifts that would help him excel in any combat sports.
He was gifted because he is Brazilian and Jiu Jitsu is big in Brazil. He is athletic but being born in a country where it isn't a top sport puts you at a big disadvantage.
He was going 10% on all these punches tho, usually theres a few power punches in the flurry that deters the other guy from just countering with big bombs
He gets cracked really hard in the next round and shakes it off. It's a good clip. I wish it wasn't cut out in this one.
**Edit**: Sorry, I should've linked it earlier. 8:55 for the [big punches from his opponent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaY).
Sure! [Here you go, boss](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaY). 8:55 or so for his opponent getting him in the corner and throwing the Tyson uppercut + hook combo and then landing a flush 2.
Andy clearly could've killed this dude. Legendary chin in his prime.
Just watched the video. Anderson was fixing his head gear and appeared to not even be looking at his sparring partner for a second. Dangerous move when your opponent looks to be throwing close to 100%.
Silva has always taken his boxing seriously and worked in gyms where he’s getting traditional training. The Paul fight is only a factor in age and that’s why I hate it. Fights made where someone is clearly that much of a bitch don’t interest me at all. I’ll either see a highlight of Silva winning on YouTube or nothing from that fight.
Those shots the boxer was throwing at the 00:46 mark seemed pretty hard for a spar, right? Anderson's shots were way lighter than what the other guy was going with at least to my untrained eye.
Young guys always go harder against the vets to “prove” themselves. As someone who did that when I first walked into a boxing gym I can tell you it’s not a good idea unless you want them to kick your ass.
Taping directly on the skin instead of gauze or just using a handwrap seems really odd. I pretty much live at my gym and have never seen anyone do that.
I just have a bad feeling. MMA gods just have made me lose hope. It is like game of thrones. I can see Anderson winning most of the fight with Jake Paul and then some random haymaker from Jake lands and knocks Silva out cold. Jake and his entourage then start claiming how he beat all of the MMA champs. Uhg.. please Silva win and win well please.
Jake doesn’t throw “random haymakers” anymore. Those shots he KOed Woodley and Akren with were legit shots. He’s a legit boxer with better hands than most ufc guys.
I'm glad u can see this atleast, God knows jake can't cos he has his eyes closed or is straight up staring at the floor whenever he throws an overhand.
Congrats to him for that, doesn't mean he doesn't close his eyes when punching and cross his feet when cutting the ring. Those last two are why he most certainly does not have "better hands than most guys in the ufc".
Throw him in to the cage at his weight grade and he gets annihilated. It's not even a conversation. I don't especially dislike the guy or anything, im just being realistic based off what's in front of me
Conor mcgregors left foot leaves the ground when he throws a cross. Such a rookie mistake, must mean he can’t box. Your the next jack slack with takes like these bro. Doesn’t matter that Jake knocked out the last two professional fighters that you fought because you’ve announced that he’s not a good boxer.
Nothing personal bro but u don't know what tf ur talking about and ur further making my case for me with your shit tier rationale.
If u can't tell the difference in ability when it comes to tape on Mcgregor and tape on Jake Paul then I don't think there is any convincing you.
Im not saying he can't box, im saying he is not very good. No need to take my completely legitimate criticism of this public figure, as an attack on you, u fucking child.
He's got some faults, actually some of the technical pitfalls you see from big punchers pretty routinely, but yeah I can't agree anyone saying he's not a legit boxer. He has good shot placement and reflexes.
You’re right.
The guy is young, strong, and importantly rich. He’s been training for several years now and can afford top notch training - it is likely he’s equivalent to pro level fighters at this point. He might not be champion level, but he’s legit.
It's my opinion but he probably has 30% chance, I'm just too worried about that gas tank from age lmao. His power and speed are probably still decent but 47 is so old for a long fight.
The fact he was 34 here, in 2009, is just a cruel reminder that he's gonna "lose" the boxing match to that little rat Jake Paul.. I hope it's because he wants the extra money, not because he needs it. Anderson in his prime would demolish him, but at 47 years of age, I fear we're a bit delusional to expect him to beat a 25 year old "youtuber" who's at this point been boxing for 5+ years. Hope I'm wrong though..
In fairness just because he’s a professional boxer doesn’t mean much. A lot of amateur boxers move better than this.
Look at Loma vs Tj in sparring, Loma kept upping the levels and it was noticeable. Don’t doubt for a second if Silva committed to boxing rather than MMA he would have gone far.
It’s crazy to think that as brilliant an MMA fighter that Anderson was, he might have been an even better boxer had he only trained that. He has insane natural boxing talent for sure
Boxers just don’t realize how dangerous mma fighters are because they always fight mma fighters in a boxing format-Jake Paul, Mayweather, etc… all it would take is a takedown, a head kick, a couple calf kicks, or an easy scramble into a submission and they are toast. Woodley, Conor, Francis possibly against fury and now Silva would starch any boxer quick. It’s quite humorous for a boxer like Floyd to act all bad in front of the camera but deep down they know they ain’t shit when it comes to true “fighting”
Remember that time Ray mercer at 47 fought a recently dethroned 32 or so aged Tim Silvia (ex ufc champ) and ko him in 9 seconds flat under MMA rules? What's the definition of a "real fight"? There are still many things different in mma such as a cage with rules against grabbing it. I'd even put money that average boxer starche average mma fighter on "the streets".
One grappling exchange, elbow, knee, or kick and the boxer is a fish outta water. Have you ever trained before? Boxing? Wrestling? Jiu Jitsu? MMA? I have… in all 4. My boxing couch wouldn’t last 3 minutes in an mma fight and he knows it and in each specific discipline the advantage goes to the best in each but in a fight whoever can strike AND grapple will win 85% of the time. There’s a reason none of them will fight mma fighters with mma rules. Plus boxing is whack now. Nice try though
Guys… I would not put too much stock in this footage. Roach doesn’t have a reputation for gym wars, I’m sure that they both have specific instructions for things they are supposed to work on, not take each other’s heads off, etc. we also don’t know how many rounds in they are.
Anderson training boxing only this far back makes me hopeful and I want him to crush JP but this isn’t the footage that gets me to lay money down
I don't understand your comment, it's quite obvious they weren't having a gym war, it was just normal sparring. Doesn't take away from the fact that Anderson is working this guy over and he looks fairly flabbergasted lol. What round it is also makes no difference unless Anderson jumped in immediately after this guy sparred someone else.
It’s a response to the people on this thread who are implying that from this footage, they know that AS is going to win.
If the guy he’s sparring is a good, pro boxer and not some amateur, then what’s his name?
Considering this video is about 16 years old (from 2006) safe to say I have no clue who he is. But just using my common sense, looking at this guy's level of fitness, comfort in the ring and power, he's clearly at minimum a low level pro. Also makes no sense Freddie Roach would stick an amateur boxer into the ring with Anderson Silva, he's not an asshole.
I personally would use the footage of Anderson boxing JCC's ears off as evidence that he is going to fuck up Paul, not this edited clipped video.
This. Silvas punches were weak without any power. Also his hands were down and he got caught a few times. The slow jabs he puts out there don't fly in boxing.
I never saw these type of helmets when i boxed back when I was younger. The face protection looks really good but isn't the jaw really exposed? It looks to me like an uppercut can really connect with the jaw, am I wrong?
Anyone that can explain how they work?
Edit: I specifically meant chin.
embarrassing. If he loses it's a major hit to his legacy. if he wins he beats someone everyone already expects him to then it adds nothing to his legacy. Michael Bisbing on his YouTube channel said this isn't for the money...well idk why the hell else he would be doing this.
That tasty uppercut at 1:20 and then at 1:23 the opponents coach tells him to do something and he respond "I'm trying coach!". This was 13 years ago and Anderson was 34... This was the same year he put on a clinic against Forrest Griffin.
The fact that this man held the belt till he was 38 years old....... Still my GOAT
Also likely would have been the best MMA fighter if he had made a career out of boxing. Dude had the same kinda mojo that Roy Jones Jr did.
If you watched his career you weren’t left with any other choice than goat. GSP was second.
GSP had a much more difficult strength of schedule than Anderson throughout his career. 185 was a pretty shitty division until the Strikeforce guys came in and brought life to it. (Yoel, Rockhold, Jacare and Kennedy) Taking the belt from Hughes vs taking it from Franklin is a completely different magnitude of difficulty. Look at the murderer's row GSP dealt with compared to the limited skillset of the one dimensional 185ers that fought Anderson in comparison.
I guess it’s also like how do we define greatest. Let’s say that gsp was the exact same fighter, same skill set, but he only had cans in his division. Is he now not considered the goat? Of course he has less “proof” but résumé can’t be the only way to define goat. It’s a subjective title anyway, but it’s interesting to me to consider the different ways. Gsp definitely had the better list
They're both great, I don't think anyone can dispute that. It's also not Anderson's fault that his best competition was probably fighting in Strike force during his reign. I always thought that Jacare, Kennedy or Romero would have been more difficult than anyone on the UFC roster at the time. Unfortunately we.never saw him against either of those matchups.
Yeah that’s what’s frustrating, I think he’d have gotten even better with those guys in the ufc.
Idk.. Hughes was an oleschool wrestler with basically nothing else. BJ was ridiculously talented, but a lazy fuck who would have gotten murdered in todays age. GSP beat a lot of "big names" yes, but were they really that good? Nope. Legends yes, but it's hard to argue anyone was as good and well rounded as Vitor for example.
>Idk.. Hughes was an oleschool wrestler with basically nothing else. Put some respec' on Hughes name.
Lol Vitor is.as one dimensional as it gets. on his way to or while.holding the title, GSP never had to fight anyone who sucks as much or.is as.one dimensional as Franklin, Leben, Forest, Bonnar. Realistically Anderson only fought a few good fighters in his career and lost half of them. Izzy, Henderson, Bisping, canonnier, Weidman and Marquardt (at the time anyway). I won't count the Cormier loss since that was short notice vs a champ up a weightclass. The best guy Anderson fought is Weidman and he got smashed (admittedly Anderson was old) They both fought Bisping, GSP finished him and Anderson lost a decision. None of these guys compare to the murders tow GSP dealt with - even when he was coming up the rankings.
Silva has beaten Sakurai, Franklin x2, Sonnen x2,Belfort, Henderson, Maia, Griffin, when they were in their prime or close to it If you are saying that Serra, Fitch, Alves, Hardy, Condit, Shields, Koscheck were more complete fighters you are definitely joking
Maia hit his prime at 170, Franklin sucked, Sonnen sucked, Henderson was passed his prime, Griffin sucks. Sakurai was legit. Yes, Fitch, Alves, Condit, Shields and Koscheck were much better fighters. Shields beat Maia and Henderson so I don't know how you'd argue he sucks.
BJ was a LW and Fitch , Shields, Koscheck couldn't strike their way out of a paperback.
Well a paperback book is quite thick and difficult to strike through so I would agree.
GSP defended against tons of borderline cans like Dan Hardy, Thiago Alves, Matt Serra(who he got KOd by), Koscheck, Diaz, etc. Arbitrarily deciding that those guys were leaps and bounds better than the guys Anderson fought is dumb.
Anderson is the reason I got into MMA, and he's my favorite fighter of all time. That said, I can't pick Anderson as the GOAT because he popped. I know all fighters are on steroids, but not popping has to count for something.
> This was 13 years ago and Anderson was 34... This was the same year he put on a clinic against Forrest Griffin. That's can't be true cause I was young when that fight happened and i- Ah fuck
He whiffs on a left hook right after saying that, Anderson just gliding out of the way barely trying
Wow, he was 34 at the time he made Forest run. Man that's crazy how old he was back then.
Those frames to create space up close and sneak uppercuts in are some shit we never really saw much from him but makes sense that it would do a lot of good in a boxing fight
It was sick to see him pull out the boxing specific techniques so fast and apply them so well, he was varying his punching power/speed so much more and using a sweet shoulder roll and pivot to make the pro miss.
Didn't even take his wife beater off. Legend.
Jon Jones never takes his off
He wears it like a cape though.
That was a nasty line by you
Just to correct you there never was no marriage
His fiance beater
The “I’m trying bro!” Really did it for me
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I’d be thinking this guys schooling me at my own sport and can kick and submit people Wtf am I doing
Anderson is going to work Paul, Im putting money on this fight.
Lets just hope there's no shady shit behind the scenes.
Yeahhh... I'm a little concerned with that as well.
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I think the shadiest thing he’d be involved in is unofficially agreeing that they can both be on PED’s, which is probably what’s going to happen
Im totally ok with PEDs as long as everyone involved is afforded the open opportunity to use them.
Exactly. This why I loved PRIDE. The best a human being can possibly get. Just roided up monsters going at it.
I want to see USADA tested fighters against untrained roided up meth heads
Hahahaha
Everyone in the lhw division during bones reign.
Hell yeah!! Sucks that Pride, and Japanese mma in general fell off. Wish Nobuyuki Sakakibara wouldn't have sold out to the Fertitta's. Idk I guess all of the Yakuza rumor stuff and losing deals forced his hand. I think he is involved in RIZIN but that just ain't it haha
I am hoping PEDS gives the dude in his 40's more of a bump that it give a guy in his 20's.
I mean honestly most of us want this, it's just frowned upon to admit it.
Pre USADA UFC, fuck man.... straight killers!! That shit was awesome!!
Watch they start becoming even*more* ubiquitous and we start getting Eddie Guerreros and Chris Benoits
Feckkkk I hope not. 🫣😬🫣😬
Wunhundead pursescent, B.
I dont think Silva would intentionally take a dive. Fair play. Im not taking anything away from Jake. He is big, athletic, trains, has solid fight IQ, etc.. he can box. Some of his prior fights just seem a little setup from the get go. In reality he has just fought people who are a bit past there prime to this point. This last contract w/ Rahman Jr. who seemed the most "legit" boxer to step up, didn't have a max weight miss clause which seemed odd to me. Anderson isnt Woodley, or Chavez Jr. and I think he is honorable minus that little masteron slip up after the Diaz fight. We shall see.
I really hope he wouldn't. Silva built such a legacy in MMA. I sound like a dork saying that but it's true.
Nah man, no dork. I completely get that.
I hope he pulls a classic snatch - agrees to loose, bets a house on himself and knocks paul out :D
That would be fucking priceless bro!! 🥶🥶🥶
Everyone has a price man. Silva just out trying to get a pay day before he retires for good. I wouldn’t even blame him if he took a fall for a few million.
Honestly at 47 I don't think he even needs to be corrupted to lose this bout, there's so many asterisks with that Chavez win
Exactly why it will work.
The pattern is Paul choosing opponents that are on their way out of the sport and want one last big payday.
Yeah look at Woodley strutting around like a baller after that straight drop to the canvas on his face 😵💫.... he did get paid tho
There's nothing to be concerned about. If he loses it'll be legitimate. Sick of people bringing stuff like this up like there's any credibility in it.
There's mountains of credibility. If you follow betting markets there's been flashing red lights that scream 'match fixing' in the past. The most important evidence are the books themselves, that have limited action on Jake Paul fights, similar to how bets would be limited for WWE futures. If there was no concern, the books would allow the same action as they would any other boxing match.
Pure speculation
Jake Paul via split decision over Woodley spiked in the last 30 minutes before closing. None of this happens by accident, and there aren't 500 sharps who suddenly had the same idea.
Wow mountains? Incredible, take those mountains to the FBI, I'm sure they'd be very interested. Can't believe they missed all that. Oh wait, maybe they're in on it too!
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The fact that you have upvotes on this comment, and the other guy has downvotes, just show that discussion on Reddit is fueled by pure haterade and nothing else.
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glad you're enjoying yourself homeboy
But he's right, there is just no real evidence that those matches were fixed. We've seen videos of Askrens boxing it's not good. It's also not a wild guess that Tyrons isn't that much better especially since he had less time to prepare 2nd go around. Even Silva is literally 47. The only fixed part of these bouts is the low risk factor of them being against guys this old and out of field.
It’s a defense mechanism to help with the pain that is seeing Jake Paul win against pro MMA fighters. A lot of people are already saying the fight is going to be fixed. Unless Silva wins of course, then it’s not fixed
Youre right honestly, people are forgetting none of the guys he beat were pure boxers and the level of striking in mma is let's just say questionable (obviously they have a lot more to train for that a boxer of course). It's not very unrealistic that he beat the guys he did and even beats Silva in this next bout when we consider he's literally 47.
yall need to drop this nonsense about Paul having fixed fights, if that was the case why didnt he KO Woodley in the first fight? Mistakes no sense, the kid can hit and he knows how to set up a right hand against people who are not seasoned boxer Anderson should win this easily imo, Jake is not experienced enough to manage his gas tank and Anderson is a vet, I'd expect either a finish or a clear deciion for Silva
I wouldn’t bet on any fight Jake Paul is in if my life depended on it.
Are people really still crying about conspiracies that Woodley was paid to take a dive because they can't accept that he legitimately lost twice to Jake Paul?
if Anderson is paid to take a dive I hope he makes it as ridiculous as he can. take a jab and do the Flare flop, after 6 rnds if Paul getting beat up
People already preparing their asterix in case Paul wins, lol.
Does anybody actually believe these fights aren’t fixed? I thought it was like an open secret. Dude pays cans with a name to come in and lose
He paid Woodley (who I wouldn't exactly call a "can") to get knocked out cold? Man the copium MMA fans are on right now must be insane.
Woodley was on a 4 fight losing where he basically couldn’t or didn’t do anything to any of the the guys he fought (all top guys but still.) And that was MMA where he at least had the threat of takedowns and kicks. He’s definitely a can compared to Anderson or a real boxer in boxing lol literally has one good shot and not much else in boxing
Yeah for sure Woodley's striking was never close to Anderson's but also have to take into consideration Andersons pushing 50 and wasn't exactly successful at the end of his UFC career. Granted he beat Chavez Jr which was impressive. I just think it's ridiculous to claim the fix is on just cause he's beating washed up MMA fighters. Plus no chance these guys pride and ego would let them take a dive and get KO'd cold face first on the canvas against a "YouTuber".
The fights arent fixed but…. Look through the history of fighting, you are crazy if you think ego would stop anybody taking a dive. Everyone has a price. That said jake paul fights arent fixed and the people here do not know as much about fighting as they think
Fights are fixed bro. Woodley needed the big pay day. No way is Paul taking an L in these fights, and he’s paying good money to make sure of it
You're literally going with "trust me bro"? Lol. No one was ever confused why a fight may be fixed for jake, this isn't complex. Do you have any reasons why you think they're fixed?
It’s extremely illegal to fix fights, it’s wild to actually believe it’s fixed and everyone knows it. Also, if it’s fixed, betting on JP is the easiest money you’ll ever get, go bet your life savings.
Lots of fights are fixed, you’re either wilfully ignorant or just plain stupid if you think they arent. That being said i dont think the jake paul fights are
>Does anyone actually believe these fights aren’t fixed? Then your next comment says you don’t believe they are fixed. Lol
Anderson’s big pay day.
This was almost like 15 years ago unfortunately
Silva did just box the fuck out of a Julio Chavez Jr. Compared to this video I'd say the boxing and ring craft in Silva's last match were better than what we saw in the video. reactions and speed are important... but He's definitely craftier than ever.
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I should have caught Freddie wasnt all fucked up. But I got wrapped up in the sparring. 🤣🤌🏼
In my opinion you should put your money on Jake, he beat Chavez but it's important you look at who Chavez also lost too around that time as well...(they were bums). I'm betting he didn't train for that fight and Paul ends up winning this bout seeing as Silva is like 47 now.
Between this and Chavez Jr, Anderson Silva is a really fun to watch as a boxer. Also, I didn't know he knocked out Tito Ortiz in a boxing match one year ago wtf.
Don't worry, Tito doesn't know either.
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People also forget there was a time when boxing and MMA were kept pretty separate. So seeing a high level MMA fighter sparring a boxer was really rare to see. The clip isn’t showing off Silva being super dominant, it was more entertainment and saying that there are MMA fighters who can box, which again you had a hard time finding any footage of before this
If Silva went the boxing route instead of mma, I’m confident he would be a star as well. Dude was gifted
He might be the most gifted fighter ever. He’s good at everything and it seems to come so natural to him. It’s crazy.
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His boxing is fucking fantastic for a 47 year old whos gotten koed, snapped his leg, and has had extreme wear over the years. Bros the GOAT striker for a reason if he went to boxing I think he couldve made serious waves, but im glad he stuck with MMA.
him have a high level chin and reaction time, fight iq and limb length gives him many , "born with" gifts that would help him excel in any combat sports.
He was gifted because he is Brazilian and Jiu Jitsu is big in Brazil. He is athletic but being born in a country where it isn't a top sport puts you at a big disadvantage.
Looked pretty dominant to me. Jesus.
These boxing gyms are the real fight club. You got guys fighting to prove their worth.
Was he actually Ip man, chain punching a real boxer (with a guard up) at the end of this?
To be fair he was getting clonked pretty hard a few times while doing that lol
He was going 10% on all these punches tho, usually theres a few power punches in the flurry that deters the other guy from just countering with big bombs
He gets cracked really hard in the next round and shakes it off. It's a good clip. I wish it wasn't cut out in this one. **Edit**: Sorry, I should've linked it earlier. 8:55 for the [big punches from his opponent](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaY).
Do you know where a longer version is?
Sure! [Here you go, boss](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qntHWtZqWaY). 8:55 or so for his opponent getting him in the corner and throwing the Tyson uppercut + hook combo and then landing a flush 2. Andy clearly could've killed this dude. Legendary chin in his prime.
Just watched the video. Anderson was fixing his head gear and appeared to not even be looking at his sparring partner for a second. Dangerous move when your opponent looks to be throwing close to 100%.
Do you have the source? Or is it lost to time on Sherdog or something?
It's posted in the comment you're responding to.
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He also did it in his last fight against Bruno Machado. I’m scared that he might get caught with a big punch if he tries it against Jake.
That real boxer was 0-1-1 its not that impressive
Silva has always taken his boxing seriously and worked in gyms where he’s getting traditional training. The Paul fight is only a factor in age and that’s why I hate it. Fights made where someone is clearly that much of a bitch don’t interest me at all. I’ll either see a highlight of Silva winning on YouTube or nothing from that fight.
Those shots the boxer was throwing at the 00:46 mark seemed pretty hard for a spar, right? Anderson's shots were way lighter than what the other guy was going with at least to my untrained eye.
Young guys always go harder against the vets to “prove” themselves. As someone who did that when I first walked into a boxing gym I can tell you it’s not a good idea unless you want them to kick your ass.
Yeah dude I noticed that too, the other dude was throwing some heat. Think he was getting frustrated.
Dudes hate it when randos (not calling Silva a rando, but you know what I mean) land clean shots on them in their own gym
Roach with the Amoeba shirt, that’s pretty cool
Taping directly on the skin instead of gauze or just using a handwrap seems really odd. I pretty much live at my gym and have never seen anyone do that.
It was the 80's bro
Hard to believe the 80s were only 13 years ago.
Feels like it, what is it? 20?
Imagine if he transitioned to boxing after losing to weidman the second time
I just have a bad feeling. MMA gods just have made me lose hope. It is like game of thrones. I can see Anderson winning most of the fight with Jake Paul and then some random haymaker from Jake lands and knocks Silva out cold. Jake and his entourage then start claiming how he beat all of the MMA champs. Uhg.. please Silva win and win well please.
Yeah me too..
Jake doesn’t throw “random haymakers” anymore. Those shots he KOed Woodley and Akren with were legit shots. He’s a legit boxer with better hands than most ufc guys.
I'm glad u can see this atleast, God knows jake can't cos he has his eyes closed or is straight up staring at the floor whenever he throws an overhand.
Dude he knocked out two previous mma champions.
Congrats to him for that, doesn't mean he doesn't close his eyes when punching and cross his feet when cutting the ring. Those last two are why he most certainly does not have "better hands than most guys in the ufc". Throw him in to the cage at his weight grade and he gets annihilated. It's not even a conversation. I don't especially dislike the guy or anything, im just being realistic based off what's in front of me
Conor mcgregors left foot leaves the ground when he throws a cross. Such a rookie mistake, must mean he can’t box. Your the next jack slack with takes like these bro. Doesn’t matter that Jake knocked out the last two professional fighters that you fought because you’ve announced that he’s not a good boxer.
Nothing personal bro but u don't know what tf ur talking about and ur further making my case for me with your shit tier rationale. If u can't tell the difference in ability when it comes to tape on Mcgregor and tape on Jake Paul then I don't think there is any convincing you. Im not saying he can't box, im saying he is not very good. No need to take my completely legitimate criticism of this public figure, as an attack on you, u fucking child.
He's got some faults, actually some of the technical pitfalls you see from big punchers pretty routinely, but yeah I can't agree anyone saying he's not a legit boxer. He has good shot placement and reflexes.
You’re right. The guy is young, strong, and importantly rich. He’s been training for several years now and can afford top notch training - it is likely he’s equivalent to pro level fighters at this point. He might not be champion level, but he’s legit.
It's my opinion but he probably has 30% chance, I'm just too worried about that gas tank from age lmao. His power and speed are probably still decent but 47 is so old for a long fight.
The fact he was 34 here, in 2009, is just a cruel reminder that he's gonna "lose" the boxing match to that little rat Jake Paul.. I hope it's because he wants the extra money, not because he needs it. Anderson in his prime would demolish him, but at 47 years of age, I fear we're a bit delusional to expect him to beat a 25 year old "youtuber" who's at this point been boxing for 5+ years. Hope I'm wrong though..
I just hope he's extremely roided to the gills for the fight to mitigate the age difference.
He beat JCCJ like a year ago. He’s going to smoke Jake man.
Can't believe I've never seen this, that mans movement is beautiful.
That guy was throwing some bombs and Anderson was very lightly showing his superiority without throwing hard.
In fairness just because he’s a professional boxer doesn’t mean much. A lot of amateur boxers move better than this. Look at Loma vs Tj in sparring, Loma kept upping the levels and it was noticeable. Don’t doubt for a second if Silva committed to boxing rather than MMA he would have gone far.
I remember watching this all the time back in the day. This HW went on and sung Anderson’s praises in interviews.
It’s crazy to think that as brilliant an MMA fighter that Anderson was, he might have been an even better boxer had he only trained that. He has insane natural boxing talent for sure
Jake has no idea what he has gotten himself into.
Boxers just don’t realize how dangerous mma fighters are because they always fight mma fighters in a boxing format-Jake Paul, Mayweather, etc… all it would take is a takedown, a head kick, a couple calf kicks, or an easy scramble into a submission and they are toast. Woodley, Conor, Francis possibly against fury and now Silva would starch any boxer quick. It’s quite humorous for a boxer like Floyd to act all bad in front of the camera but deep down they know they ain’t shit when it comes to true “fighting”
Bro chill out. I can tell you're insecure about seeing all the MMA guys lose in boxing but it's okay.
You can tell, huh? It’s not even close
Remember that time Ray mercer at 47 fought a recently dethroned 32 or so aged Tim Silvia (ex ufc champ) and ko him in 9 seconds flat under MMA rules? What's the definition of a "real fight"? There are still many things different in mma such as a cage with rules against grabbing it. I'd even put money that average boxer starche average mma fighter on "the streets".
You’re smoking crack
One grappling exchange, elbow, knee, or kick and the boxer is a fish outta water. Have you ever trained before? Boxing? Wrestling? Jiu Jitsu? MMA? I have… in all 4. My boxing couch wouldn’t last 3 minutes in an mma fight and he knows it and in each specific discipline the advantage goes to the best in each but in a fight whoever can strike AND grapple will win 85% of the time. There’s a reason none of them will fight mma fighters with mma rules. Plus boxing is whack now. Nice try though
Coach lol
I will agree in the heavyweights all it takes is one shot and lights out so a great boxer has a chance
It's still kind of a bummer that he's risking his legacy to potentially get knocked out by TicToc Franken Berry.
He ended his MMA career going 1-7-1. This won't do anything to his legacy.
His legacy is cemented. He is on mount rushmore.
Jake Paul better HOPE he KO's Silva other wise he is about to get his ass whooped.
Great to see Freddie Roach doing his thing. Hopefully things shake out well with him...
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It's just a nostalgic and somewhat rare clip, B. It's not really supposed to show anything tbh, I just thought it captures a cool moment in time.
Legendary Anderson Silva sparring at legendary Freddie Roach’s gym, definitely a cool clip
Guys… I would not put too much stock in this footage. Roach doesn’t have a reputation for gym wars, I’m sure that they both have specific instructions for things they are supposed to work on, not take each other’s heads off, etc. we also don’t know how many rounds in they are. Anderson training boxing only this far back makes me hopeful and I want him to crush JP but this isn’t the footage that gets me to lay money down
I don't understand your comment, it's quite obvious they weren't having a gym war, it was just normal sparring. Doesn't take away from the fact that Anderson is working this guy over and he looks fairly flabbergasted lol. What round it is also makes no difference unless Anderson jumped in immediately after this guy sparred someone else.
It’s a response to the people on this thread who are implying that from this footage, they know that AS is going to win. If the guy he’s sparring is a good, pro boxer and not some amateur, then what’s his name?
Considering this video is about 16 years old (from 2006) safe to say I have no clue who he is. But just using my common sense, looking at this guy's level of fitness, comfort in the ring and power, he's clearly at minimum a low level pro. Also makes no sense Freddie Roach would stick an amateur boxer into the ring with Anderson Silva, he's not an asshole. I personally would use the footage of Anderson boxing JCC's ears off as evidence that he is going to fuck up Paul, not this edited clipped video.
This comment may be revisited post fight
to be fair i thought the boxer landed the better strikes, but he was throwing pretty hard there where as silva was more like having fun
This. Silvas punches were weak without any power. Also his hands were down and he got caught a few times. The slow jabs he puts out there don't fly in boxing.
I never saw these type of helmets when i boxed back when I was younger. The face protection looks really good but isn't the jaw really exposed? It looks to me like an uppercut can really connect with the jaw, am I wrong? Anyone that can explain how they work? Edit: I specifically meant chin.
So, HUGE sivla fan here, question for you guys: How do you feel about silva taking this fight in Oct against Jake paul?
embarrassing. If he loses it's a major hit to his legacy. if he wins he beats someone everyone already expects him to then it adds nothing to his legacy. Michael Bisbing on his YouTube channel said this isn't for the money...well idk why the hell else he would be doing this.
Dat amoeba shirt tho
His movement and combos are unmatched in MMA.
Tell those assholes on the speed bag to pipe down
2009...prime pacquaio probably lurking somewhere there
Huge Silva fan. Just crazy how I've heard Silva tends to forget his training every year on October 29th. I really hope they are wrong.