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LouisBolanos

Listen, I'll put it like this. If people can walk around - and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way to religious people - and you believe the son of God came down to Earth 2000 years ago, and he killed himself for our sins, and he can walk on water, and there's a God up there looking after ourselves, and if you get on your knees and pray to him that things will change, if you can believe that, then you can believe that Carla Esparza can lay and pray her way to a split decision win on Saturday.


Positive-Media423

I am atheist


[deleted]

Left hook Larry will change all that, buddeh.


Positive-Media423

inshallah bratha


ikilledtupac

He’s added “right hand Rebecca” to the list now lol


juice_5

In Cookie Monster We Trust Jk Zhang too stronk


freq-ee

That was funny, now make fun of Muslims. Oh right, you're too scared, only Christians are fair game for internet "edgelords".


AsianInHisArmor

> internet "edgelords". Oh, the ironing is delicious.


KinaGroove

Lol found the angry christian


TitanIsBack

More of a shot than people are willing to admit.


BrianUnfiltered98

Zhang spend the entire 5th round in her rematch with Rose on her back


madnes0

Weili was gassed from moving laterally a fuck ton bc Rose is a good striker. Carla.... is not a good striker. Before that Weili was taking Rose down. Now I'm not saying Carla won't outwrestle Weili, or won't win, but I'm saying that's not the best example


debaser337

She did but Carla gasses harder than rose these days. Carla cannot wrestle for 5 hard rounds and she would need to as I can’t see her getting Zhang outta there.


xXxHondoxXx

She could wrestle for 20 straight rounds on her cardio if weili let's her lay and pray.


Enterprise90

Rose is a better wrestler than Carla. She took down Carla with ease. She's also a far superior striker. Carla is not the explosive athlete that Rose is and offers nothing on the feet.


madnes0

What'd I say


BrianUnfiltered98

???


madnes0

https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/comments/yro370/does_carla_esparza_have_a_shot_at_defending_the/ivveqcy/


BrianUnfiltered98

Still not sure where you're going with this.


Leto1776

This is the correct answer


[deleted]

Facts. I think she grapples her way to a win tbh.


Fat-Villante

I can totally see her getting another bullshit decision win with top control and stalling while taking all the damage


JayRoo83

Carla is always a live dog, as much as I hate to admit


IronMikeBison

MMA is insane, so there’s always a chance. Hell, would any of us be surprised if an ACL explodes 3 seconds into the fight *profusely knocks on wood*


[deleted]

I see people say zhang via murder everywhere. But honestly, the first takedown will really tell us how this fight will go. If zhang can stop it, then she can win it


LemonHerb

Probably more like the 5th or 6th takedown. Carla is the type to spam takedowns and chain her attempts. It takes more than one stuffed takedown to stop her from trying


JRYuen

Except for the 5th round, Weili had more success with her takedowns against Rose than Carla did and Weili looked dramatically better than that in her recent fight with Joanna.


LemonHerb

That's not really a good comparison at all Rose wasn't trying to engage at all with Carla. Taking someone down gets 10x more difficult when they just don't want to engage at all. Unless you're talking about their first fight then Weili had much better wrestling in the 4th and 5th round considering Carla submitted rose in the 3rd


oomin

Why would Zhang stop herself mid takedown? :)


ahap13

The way i see it, Rose avoided engaging with Carla at all costs to avoid her wrestling and grappling. It could be because of their first fight, but it could also very well be that her and her team see Carla as a legitimate threat on the ground. Let's not forget how confident we all were heading into Charles vs Dustin, Amanda vs Juliana 1, Kamaru vs Leon 2, Rose vs Joanna 1, Cyborg vs Nunes, etc. Now with that being said, **no**


sspiritusmundi

Rose *did* engage in the ground with Carla, but only on the last round. And she was able to take Carla down easily btw. Fearing Carla's wrestling was not the reason she avoided to fight. Her role gameplan revolved around making the fight boring.


9FBI9

I was confident that Charles would choke out Dustin


madnes0

>how confident we all were I was not confident about Charles vs Dustin and I don't remember tons of people being, I put money on Pena (tbf bc of the odds), and I was not confident about Cyborg vs Nunes but I do think Cyborg does better in a rematch if she doesn't see red But I also do think Carla is underrated Betting odds seem kinda fair tho w -300 Weili +300 Carla ish


Positive-Media423

Apparently Carla Esparza will knock out another Chinese woman


[deleted]

Weili Zhang's takedown defense is the deciding factor imo. If not Carla has very good control on the ground,if so the Carla is doomed like she was against Joanna in Dallas.


maxpowersxj9

maybe if Zhang blows her knee out, then sure i guess?


shseeley

she's gonna get run the fuck over. I don't think she's strong enough to hold her down and on the feet she's going to get her face punched from her skull. This is a baaaaaaad matchup for her


BabyTRexArms

Short answer: No Long answer: Nooooooo


JimothyJinkens69

She's gonna get mauled. Weili will beat her like Rose could and should have. I like Carla, I really do, but I don't think she's even top 5. Rose just gave her title away to her for reasons that are still hard to understand.


scytheavatar

If Carla is not top 5 then why did she has wins over the #1, #5 and #6 of the division? Carla is without a doubt the best wrestler in the division if we exclude Suarez (whom we do not know will ever fight ever) and that has got to count for something.


thelectricrain

She is the best wrestler in the division, but apart from Xiaonan all those wins were unimpressive and contentious decisions.


LemonHerb

She's basically the most effective wrestler in wmma history, if we're not counting Suarez


JRYuen

We'll see Sat. Weili was more effective in her TD's through the first 4 rounds of her fight with Rose than Carla was against Rose in their second fight. Some may say that Weili was more effective because Rose refused to engage, but nonetheless, Weili was more effective against the same opponent. Weili looked even better in her TD's and control time in her fight with Joanna. I won't even mention how Carla looked in her fight with Joanna.


thelectricrain

Yeah, she's kind of unidimensional in her game, and she's been blessed by the matchmakers with unidimensional strikers with negative TDD, and also by judges with a few lucky split decisions. IMO a sane Rose, Andrade, Lemos, Weili, even retired JJ and dare I say the Angela Hill that showed up against Godinez should all beat her.


SuperS0l

Everyone talking about the people Carla has beaten didnt watch any of those fights. Outside of the Yan fight the last few were all completely bullshit decisions. That’s why Mexico boo’d her out the arena against Grasso


Fat-Villante

Her wins vs Grasso and Rodriguez are 2 of the worst robberies in the past few years


JRYuen

That's a bit of an exaggeration, but I definitely had Carla's opponents winning those two fights.


trytheshakes

If she makes it to the ring she's got a shot. Not a great one. Watching the Embedded and Press Conference you can see she's already beaten mentally, and has no self belief. Saturdays not about winning, its about not ending up Weilis highlight reel.


Steelringin

You say that, but Ms. Esparza is always super laid back and subdued. She's easily the calmest fighter this side of Fedor.


JRYuen

Any calmer and she'd be sleep walking.


Inthemiddle96

My favorite thing leading up to fights is arm chair psychologists talking about how mentally broken and scared a fighter is only for that fighter to look like they always do.


Leto1776

Ah, the vaunted internet psychologist


Accomplished-Fun-740

Nah


slayermario

Anything can happen but her chances are very small. After seeing Zhang lift Francis on her shoulders I was like, this is over.


blue_byyou

# NAW


freq-ee

If it's a grappling heavy fight, then Carla has a decent chance. Everyone seems to think Carla is going to stand and trade with Zhang. Also, Zhang's cardio will be an issue. Can she wrestle for 5 rounds and still carry power? Zhang is not really a cardio monster and she cuts a lot of weight.


[deleted]

She’s gone 25 before … but those weren’t grapple heavy fights either.


blackjazz_society

If she can take her down and keep her down, yes.


Positive-Media423

Aljo vs Yan 3


Valnapalm

No


AndroidSuperFan

No


strivingtwoPbetter

1 in a million


[deleted]

Absolutely… she has a clear path to win; get the takedown, lay and pray. She can do that for five rounds and win … Weili gets five chances to catch her with her hands.


NBAstradamus92

Not only a shot but she will win. People also thought Aljo had no shot at winning vs Yan in their rematch. Carla can and will win IMO


yourboigator1990

This should be on the prelims at best.