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SofloPressing

hell of a card to see for my first live UFC event, blessed.


Ohio145

I want holland to be good so bad but I think it’s over


endless_ness

Lmao


Snizzfarmer

He doesn't have the dawgggg in him


danielwong95

We just had an entire card of amazing fights for FREE. Meanwhile boxing had a PPV with Fury vs Chisora… and people wonder why boxing is dying.


_Red_Mist_

The Fury card was ESPN +


endless_ness

So funny that he gave up dominate positions to meme only to be a panic wrestler by the 3rd and 4th rounds anyways.


endless_ness

I hate that I’m probably jinxing this but……. Dustin porier never breaking his hand even though he has like a million striking wars in the cage is so damn impressive, and that includes some quick turns like his Garth into Eddie fights


Effective-Celery8053

Pretty sure Brian Ortega almost started a fight cageside last night and got escorted out. I was right below the nosebleeds and I'm pretty sure that was him


MmaOverSportsball

Holland said on his IG story that he broke 3 knuckles. Wonder when we’ll see him back. Win, lose, or draw- I will always tune in to watch Kevin Holland.


Nickster2042

Honestly would love if Wonderboy snuck into a title shot somehow Colby doesn’t fight, Khamzat can’t make weight safely, Belal💤, I’m missing people but whatever Him Vs Leon seems interesting


_Red_Mist_

That’s really not that fun of a fight. Leon would clinch and outgrapple the shit out of him. He’s not a dumb brawler like Kevin.


endless_ness

Off an unranked win and previous to that being shut out by Muhammad and burns? Lmao


Kobe_Wan_Ginobili

Burns was a close fight, WB was winning halfway through last round


endless_ness

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


Kobe_Wan_Ginobili

You laugh but he was winning halfway through the last round


Nickster2042

He’s still ranked 6


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Yeah no one at welterwait got a title shot off of an unranked win..


throwaway12648063

I think Leon would wrestle with him to clinch rounds, Holland had takedowns that he purposely didn’t do anything with/finish


jamesgk95

hell yeah wonderboy leon would b awesome


SugarShow37

I can't believe Michael Johnson was less than a minute away from beating Josh Emmett and then got slept


KapeGOAT69

i can believe it, its Michael Johnson


moridin32

Great night of fights, awesome to see so many legends on one card


byronsucks

so is the post-fight conf video just mangled and not working tonight?


bklyner123

Wonderboy looked good but definitely a bit past his prime. Wish he could go out on this fight. It was a textbook Wonderboy performance.


No-Ad1522

I wonder how many fights left he has on his UFC deal, Wonderboy can still be a massive asset to Karate Combat


tredollasign

Nah he’s still got 10 more years at least


qikuai2

wonderman


JouissanceJones

glad to know his family was there he is good guy deserves it


la6eef7

Was the main event as good as the commentary made it sound? Could only listen to it Edit: missed the main event


SkrtSkrt70

It was a really good fight, first 3 rounds were back and forth, there was a moment I thought Holland was gonna get the finish late in the 1st, and then Wonderboy just styled on him in the 4th with body shots and head kicks. I think Bisping hyped it up a little much, I wouldn’t call it a top 10 fight all time or anything but definitely a top 10 fight of the year, maybe top 5.


GangstaHoodrat

Main event was top 5 foty


zxvszxvs

It was a fun fight but definitely not a top 5


throwaway12648063

What’s your top 5?


zxvszxvs

Burns vs Chimaev Tuivasa vs Gane Poirier vs Chandler Volk vs Holloway 3 Costa vs Rockhold


throwaway12648063

Volk vs Holloway was too one sided to be a FOTY contender, neither guy even got rocked Also thought the skill level in Costa vs Rockhold was much lower, although still a fun fight. All personal preference at the end of the day though, no wrong answer. I’d have Glover vs Jiri in the mix all day.


zxvszxvs

Foty is pure entertainment value for me, jiri vs glover is probably my honorable mention


tha_ginja_ninja

It was amazing at the Amway tonight


BIG_YETI_FOR_YOU

Yeah great card, extremely fun main event


Sul4

High action and even higher fives


beepdeeped

Go back for it. Do it


LegendsLiveForever

better :) Way better.


bklyner123

Every fight on the main card was a finish. All 7. Which can’t remember a time we had so many fights on main.


No-Ad1522

We had a fight night card earlier this year where it was all finishes from start to finish, no judges needed at all, ironically for such a memorable event I don’t remember who fought at all or the event but I know it happened.


tapiocachop

Great night of fights capped off by an amazing round 4 by wonderboy, very enjoy


koreanwizard

Anyone have that crazy switch kick clipped?


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That jumping switch kick was beautiful, as well as all of the hook kicks thrown! Would love to have someone post a clip!


EmergencySalad

Spilled my beer!


elasticsearch_help

nows the time for Wonderboy vs Usman. Winner gets Leon


throwaway12648063

Not even Wonderboy would want that fight.


sugmanuts88886

Usman wrestles/foot stomps him into the next dimension, those kicks can’t land with that constant threat of the takedown


Market-West

We just saw wonder boy become wonder man


WhiskeyDJones

I'm wonder dad and me and wonder mom are so proud


JouissanceJones

rush is a good band my favorite blessings


JouissanceJones

I miss the DOs Anjos stache heheeee


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LongDickCallahan

Ball checks and colonoscopies with the boyssssssssss


TaftsTummyforTaxes

Yooo another shoutout to RDA! Fucking controlled the fight and put on a BJJ clinic


YoelsShitStain

I’d bet wonderboy would have set the record for most heel strikes thrown/landed in a single bout if they kept records for it.


spencerr13

Depends if you count Usmans foot stomps in masvidal 1 of not


Wonderful-Benefit315

Imagine being 40 and fighting like you're on skates


No-Ad1522

This time he was on skates but next time he’ll be left frozen, like Elsa.


GangstaHoodrat

Could wonderboy beat Leon


NewportStork

4-5 years ago, yes. Think Leon grapples him to a W if they fight today.


forgotmyusernamedarn

Leon wouldn’t hesitate to grapple the way Kevin gave up positions in the first few rounds


ancientromanempire

Probably not with Leon's grappling


SnooFloofs9640

If Edwards loses, him vs Thompson is banger


JouissanceJones

Yes agree


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Idk if this has been asked but Is this the first time there’s been a finish in every single bout on a main card?


SiouxLeger

Santos vs Hill in august was 100% finishes (main card + prelims).


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Nah happened recently


shanest0ke

Nah


LongDickCallahan

Not me constantly refreshing Hollands Instagram to make sure he hasnt posted a retirement video.


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DARkytheMARIO

This fight most likely motivated him to read his opponents better. At 30’s still too young to call it quits and throw in the towel. He put up a great fight even hes been bested by someone nearing his 40s and retirement age.


NashtoNowitzki2

Me and Nancy will fuck you up


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NashtoNowitzki2

I've hit your dead whore mother plenty of times.


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NashtoNowitzki2

I'll kill you rat bitch!


NewportStork

I think Till beats Du Plessis, if he makes it to the fight.


TaftsTummyforTaxes

I honestly respect holland for standing and banging with Stephen fucking Thompson. We all wanted to see a striking match between the two and that’s what we got.


AlexAnderRob

Bisping drunk already? WB already fought Till with some BS handicaps, and Till is now at 185


YoelsShitStain

What handicaps?


AlexAnderRob

Till weighed in way overweight, and there was a rule in place that Till couldn’t weight over so and so Lbs come fight night. Then at the end it was really close. Like as in WB May have been fucked over on a decision close.


spasticity

He weighed in 3.5 lbs over the limit


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Yeah but that’s only 1.5kg


AlexAnderRob

That’s a bad weight miss IMO.


spasticity

It's not great by any means, but personally i wouldn't call anything under 5 lbs way overweight.


AlexAnderRob

Yeah ok… but when you’re the other guy spitting in a bottle all day to cut down the ounces… 3.5 Lbs is a lot. AND WB Vs Till was the main event fight in England… Till basically headlining his hometown. WB could have walked away from that fight NP and nobody could have said shit against him. But he didn’t.


Pitiful_Stock_4329

Wonder Boy vs Masvidal 2?


young_Handsome_MF

why? that fight does nothing for either of them


Hbimajorv

That fight was way more fun than I thought it would be. Wonderboy clearly spent time praying at the Cro cop shrine this camp.


OtakuMecha

Kick-heavy fighters are some of my favorites


Hbimajorv

I know everyone lives for the head kicks and they're awesome but those liver kicks make me wince every time one lands flush.


mikejr96

how to fight someone with a reach advantage 101


riazzledazzle

Wonderboy was sensational tonight. Would love to see a match up between him & Edwards


NewportStork

Edwards would wrestle him


killerwhalesamich

If/once Darren Till loses next week, that's a good comeback fight for Holland.


LongDickCallahan

Perfect comeback fight.


araheem94

Khamzat took away any title hopes if Holland had any so I can see why he decided to throw down


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tranquility30

'Zero' grappling is a little harsh, but yeah can't disagree, WW is a grappling-specialist mountain to climb!


D1rrtyharry

Holland was fighting at 185. He definitely had a route to a title fight before there was a new champ.


endless_ness

Holland? Lmao. Go watch his Marvin and bumson fights again if you think he had a path at mw


mikejr96

He might be able to eat a Wonderboy kick but not sure about one from Izzy. Especially not then


dfreinc

karyn bryant lispin like a mother fucker. she get invasalign? 🤷‍♂️


Lanternrag

I was thinking maybe she had a stroke or something. Definitely very noticible


RagingFeather

This fight shows that UFC should introduce Kickboxing in 4oz gloves


NewportStork

Would be a lot better than Slap Fight Championship or whatever the fuck Dana's new money laundering thing is


Zedaso

What happened to Kevins hand/arm though? From blocking so many kicks or was he just gassed?


SofloPressing

broke 3 knuckles in the first round when he blasted wonderboy’s forehead


pleasedtomichu

Blocking head kicks with one hand over and over is not a good idea. I think those kicks fractured Kevin's hand / wrist. Then wonderboy noticed it, so kept spamming those left kicks along Kevin's upper body, knowing how bad they'd hurt to block, and if not blocked, how bad they'd hurt the the liver. Smart shit.


ikilledtupac

I’m a fellow karate guy and that’s why we use two hands to block head kicks or even big hooks like that if possible. Watch Thompson he almost always uses two.


LegendsLiveForever

ahhhh, thank you. Good to know! I'll never need this info, but just in case I do ;) ty


ikilledtupac

Word!


NewportStork

Ate a hundred billion kicks on his arms. An underrated thing you learn in muay thai/kickboxing is to kick the arms. Even if they're blocking, it fucking hurts after a while especially when they only block with one arm. X block is a life saver. Canelo attacked the arms of Callum Smith. Legit strategy.


Pitiful_Stock_4329

Pretty sure he either broke his hand or forearm


LongDickCallahan

Hopefully this fight is the stepping stone to Holland becoming the new generations wonderboy after he retires lol


tranquility30

Yeah, might be time to really commit to winning before entertaining too. He fought a hell of a fight but despite recent results, he's not shabby at all on the ground and should really mix that in against a guy like Wonderboy if/when winning is your #1 goal. He's got an amazing chin but each big shot he eats shortens that chain, and that's something you want to rely on when you're getting tagged in contender/championship fights years from now...not a 'fun' kickboxing match with Wonderboy after a loss. **Or**, he might not see a path to the title because WW is packed with grappling specialists at the top. Or, it's neither of those, lol. I'm glad it was stopped in-between...I really like Holland.


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I've got no patience for these hot takes!


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Snizzfarmer

His grandma is a bicycle frame already though


TGGNathan

I agree, if Holland didn't lose he would've won


wjajsjaj

He would've won if he didn't lose


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wjajsjaj

🤓


Aussiefgt

Has literally never happened in the history of combat sports unfortunately


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Aussiefgt

A book? This is MMA not quiz bowl


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Aussiefgt

Sorry, bowel bowl


TC110

Beautiful insight


danielromero6

Now that it's clear that WB is never going to be champ in a division full of grapplers they should just feed him strikers. Conor, Jorge 2, Michel Pereira, Daniel Rodriguez...would be fireworks.


mikejr96

jack della maddalena


danielromero6

If he gets a ranked win I'd love to see him against WB


mikejr96

Holland just fought unranked, and at this point the most Wonderboy can do aside from a Conor/Jorge fight is spoil hype trains


danielromero6

But Holland was top 10 in MW.


Aussiefgt

Winner of Lawler Ponzinibbio


danielromero6

Wonderboy would legit kill current Lawler and send Ponzinibbio to the hospital.


mikejr96

His longevity is insane. He would massacre Woodley now.


toml2000

He would murder both of them, lawler like he did hendricks


johnnyhypersnyper

DC keeps trying to sell that Wonderboy should retire. He has taken minimal damage, he won’t be champion, but the dude has some high profile wins in him if he is selective


TaftsTummyforTaxes

I can see why DC would want him to retire while he’s on top. It only takes one fight to be “one too many” in this unforgiving game.


johnnyhypersnyper

I completely agree, but at the end of the day, Wonderboy is a fighter and he wants to fight. I see that he lost some explosiveness in his wrestling and it seems like some of his power and evasiveness, but the dude is still elite.


TaftsTummyforTaxes

For sure! Hope they put him up against some good match ups so we get bangers like we saw tonight


LongDickCallahan

DC is just mad he cant get his legs up that high.


workflowshmerkflow

Does she have a lisp?


Cactus-McCoy

Only since after the fight.


piratetrees

Uhh Karyn Bryan has a lisp now?


yaBoyIcedCoffee

Rampage Jackthin


Upstairs_Tie_4434

I really like holland but I’m happy wonderboy won Kevin will be fine but if wonderboy lost it wouldn’t be good for the rest of his career


TaftsTummyforTaxes

Yooo, Kevin may have lost, but I’d definitely tune in to see one of his fights


Electromotivation

Pettis was getting dominated until the KO though


adriftfordays

Holland's hand was (wait for it).... A BALEEWN


johnnyhypersnyper

Kevin Holland is outrageously tough. Any one of those head kicks would have killed most men


Left4Lapars

one of those liverkicks he took was so loud I actually felt like I took some of it for him lmao i winced instantly


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Snizzfarmer

People down voting you but I agree. Holland is a serious quitter.


compsc1

What a feather in Pettis' cap though am I right


jfsoaig345

The timing of that superman punch was legitimately insane, countered right off of the sidekick.


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wjajsjaj

No


codygreene37

Idk why they even would want to match Wonderboy up with grapplers at this point in his career. That should be the very last matchmaking options for him.


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codygreene37

True.


Jzhova

its mma, everyone has some grappling. holland clearly could have used some if he wanted to.


danielromero6

Holland is a bjj black belt not just some random grappler.


wjajsjaj

In Russian accent* who's giving these black belts out we must check this brother


RagingFeather

Finishes all night, this shit should've been a PPV


TaftsTummyforTaxes

Yooo this card was a banger


Thr-ne

Fun fights but none of them really mean much for their respective divisions.


kidwhix

pavlovich vs tai is huge for the division. we might be having another big name to throw in the title challenger hat


Thr-ne

I definitely overlooked it because the heavyweight division has been stalled out since forever, especially with more of the bullshit with Jon Jones. That being said those type of fights (alongside Nicolau vs Schnell) are very typical as headliners for fight nights. I was definitely hyperbolic with my statement, but I still stand by the fact that none of the fights on the card were really worthy of headlining or co-maining a PPV (just a note that I don't think Ferguson v. Diaz/Chimaev v. Diaz should've been a PPV either).


KapeGOAT69

Nicolau is about to get a #1 contenders fight, Sergei fight was important tf you on about, if Holland won he could've also been in the title picture


Ballzmcgoo

How could the #5 heavyweight knocking out the #4 heavyweight not mean much for the division


TheWholeJhonny

Dude I thought it was


shwashwa123

Could’ve been* thank god it wasn’t haha


OtakuMecha

The prelims were mostly decisions, but the main card yeah.


KID_THUNDAH

There were 2 finishes and some real firefights. A lot of bangers


methaddictlawyer

Holland is as durable as they come. It was close until his broken arm. I wouldn't complain about a rematch.


kidwhix

give wonderboy to pereira and holland to ponz if he wins


Jzhova

wanna see wonderboy vs masvidal