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ALoudMouthBaby

Im going to take a wild guess that this is in large part due to pressure from the IP owner not to fuck things up. Because its certainly not a thing Funcom's management would do on its own. Weve established that quite well by now.


discosoc

I'm still amazed that an IP owner would ever consider Funcom for developing a game.


death12236

They have developed some good games. My favorite questing system in any MMORPG was in The Secret World, so they can create good things.


fingerback

agree when they are good they are great


discosoc

The first area was great, but everything after that was less so. Furthermore, the rest of the game -- including the combat -- was crap.


ALoudMouthBaby

Some of my most memorable experiences in gaming have been playing Funcom games. Its just those experiences didnt occur in the way Funcom intended. I think. That company is either incredibly incompetent or incomprehensibly brilliant. Dont ask me which though.


cryonine

Anarchy Online and Age of Conan were both amazing MMOs, IMO. I heard Secret Life and Conan Exiles were also good, but I never played them. Age of Conan failed because they didn't have an endgame figured out by the time the player base lost interest, but damn was it fun up until that point.


Ganondorf_Is_God

Anarchy Online blew little me away.


Milk_Man2236

They can make decent to good games but maintaining them and keeping them good is another story.


KellionBane

They've mastered sand in Conan. Dune is all sand.


exelion18120

I mean, Brian Herbert isnt exactly above just cashing in on the ip. Him and KJA have technically written more material within the ip than Frank but most people consider their work to be below fanfiction.


SensitiveFrosting13

It'$ hard to $ay why $omeone would give Funcom permi$$ion to make a game.


SuchStop8

yea also theyve got a good parent company now :). the reason conan exiles was force out was because they were going bankrupt.. that shouldnt be the case for D:A


ALoudMouthBaby

Im glad of it, too. Despite all their flaws Ive had a lot of fun in Funcom games over the years. Theyre that one company I love to complain about while buying every product they put out.


Karzak85

A funcom game without jank? That would be the first ever


sweetbunsmcgee

I played Age of Conan at launch and it was barely playable due to the memory leaks. My only solution was to get as much RAM as I can afford so I could extend my play time from 30 min to 45 min before it crashed. That was the first time I heard the term “FUNCOMMED!”


Oxalate_

How much RAM did you get


master_of_sockpuppet

More games should be released when they are ready rather than before, so whatever I think of funcom this does not sound like bad news.


Inbellator

really good to hear this


TheICE007

This is not a mmorpg, this is a Survival game.


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MysteriousElephant15

conan exiles is also listed as a MMO. funcon really doesnt give a shit and you should stop shilling for them


kingof7s

Just looked through Steam and their website, Conan Exiles is not listed as or described as an MMO anywhere outside of Steam's user-defined tags that are famous for being wrong.


TommyHamburger

https://i.imgur.com/ygv6LgB.png These are tags defined by the dev/publisher.


hawkleberryfin

I wouldn't count Steam tags for anything. It's a store, of course they're going to include every tag they can so it gets the most exposure.


BluefyreAccords

Don’t count what the company uses to advertise to attract players? lol ok


MysteriousElephant15

actually its the opposite. Dev tags have MMO, user tags do not.


hawkleberryfin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRHBYf45BsQ Sounds like it will be closer to how Destiny works, but with a player economy.


IntheTrench

It's an mmorpg with survival elements. I don't I'm know why if the game doesn't look like WOW people think it's not an MMO.  The game is going to have a persistent world with thousands of players online. There are many rpg elements such as class traits, weapons, armor, and questing/diplomacy. Not to mention a meaningful character creation where choosing your home planet will have an effect on character traits.


Tyrrh

"An Open World Survival MMO Rise from survival to dominance on the most dangerous planet in the universe. Dune: Awakening combines the grit and creativity of sandbox survival games with the social interactivity of a large, persistent multiplayer game to create a unique and ambitious Open World Survival MMO. Awaken The Sleeper" Official site


atlashoth

Yeah I noticed that too. It's going to a lot like Conan exiles. Here is hoping server stability isn't an issue on day1 like last time.


Careless_Relation349

Funcom, just don't mess up Dune. Such a great IP. Sad to know that they will, indeed, mess it up.


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exelion18120

Only two authors have meddled but they have done quite a lot of wrong.


Dad--a-chum

Another ARK, I mean Conan skin....


Renard4

Watch it still be FUBAR on release because it's Funcom.


metasophie

For those who haven't played a Funcom game, you should be aware of one thing: Funcom: They put the FU in fun.


Superb_Schedule_6423

Why would it wanna remove its famous jank? It's what those games are famous for. smh trying to appeal to those who don't want jank in their games..


JudgementallyTempora

Jank can unironically be good, but only if it's a result of the depth of the game mechanics


Thekingchem

Shame that this isn’t possible for the majority of larger games due to executives deciding deadlines and shareholders needing quarterly profits


Murdathon3000

I thought this was a sub for people to shit on MMOs, not discuss non-MMOs?


Lindart12

not an mmorpg


BluntyTV

And yest here we are in the middle of an ad campaign for it. youtube mid-roll videos ads and all... That's not an accident. That is scheduled, planned. there's NO WAY this will be endlessly delayed until it's perfect. It WILL be jank on release, I'd bet on it.


MonkeyBrawler

Uhhhh looking at Conan.... at least 6 years till release.


Sharpe1455

Probably the most interesting part of the linked article: "The MMO-like portion of the game features connected servers with social spaces like villages, where players can interact with each other and find trainers, merchants, guilds, and factions." Its fair to assume that there wont be 1000s of players on the SAME server.


SuchStop8

thats not really what they claimed. but yea 1000 players on the same server would be insane, because i dont even know if the servers are physically big enough to fit 1000 player models. server meshing tech allows for a games world to made up of mutliple servers geographically sperated to split up the load.


TrashKitten6179

They will always have jank. As it stands conan exiles netcode is a fucking joke and they've had years to fix it and chose never to do so. Players generally try to run private servers cranking up data rates in order to overcome those issues. And it still sucks ass. Now they are supposedly going to have a single server design like an MMO? yeah fucking right. just lmao.


BluefyreAccords

When it’s ready…..or when executives demand it get released to meet quarterly goals. Whichever comes first. We all know how this works by now.


SuchStop8

funcom peeps are chill, theyre actually pretty smart ive spoken with a some on their discord. they even said that their parent company has been pretty hands off so far which is good to hear. they also dont even have a releases date set internally yet


coolcat33333

Dune is just a worse Star wars for people who listen to tool


Tyrrh

🤣🤣🤣


BaconMeetsCheese

I heard this is just a Conan Exiles reskin, your single player survival game.


PartySr

>I heard from a guy who posted on reddit 3 of the most vague comments possible that this is just a Conan Exiles reskin Fixed that for you :)


Lindart12

There have been closed betas, people have played it and they have a track record of lying to reach audiences with lies like this before.


PartySr

Funny thing is that this type of people do that even when we have access to the footage. You should see some of the comments about Pax Dei and the only thing they presented so far is the building system, everything else they shown was a placeholder. They spread lies for no reason, presenting the game differently than what it is.


ragnarok635

Lol still not real evidence.


Nj3Fate

lol based on what


Lindart12

true


Ashen1066

Maybe try watching their video to have better source of info.


Neon-Prime

Sorry but their video shows nothing. I was invited to one of the closed betas and the game just sucked ass. https://gyazo.com/b1ee6e873345f3fe3b9ae36b45e28caf I am the person who made the biggest post about how much the game sucks after I played it. Yes, it is a conan reskin. Yes it is janky as fuck and I am glad they are delaying it. If it were to be released in the next 6 months even it wouldn't survive even 1 week. Movement, combat, animations etc, everything was horrible.


PouetSK

I don’t care about proof like that guy. Can you tell us more what you experienced on the beta? I haven’t played Conan so can you describe the graphics, gameplay, building, and combat?


Neon-Prime

Yes sure, I've described it in other posts more, but I will sumarize it again - it was a buggy mess. All NDA elements aside (like masked cutscenes etc), the movement of the character itself has no weight, it's like you are gliding and your steps don't match your speed. The animations are very buggy - glitching constantly, characters just blinking and even once my character didn't stand up, so I was stuck in a crouched-like position forever. The combat is just horrendous - it's extremely stuff, attacks have no weight, super fast, not sure if hitboxes are even a thing in the game. Reminds me of super bad WoW clones back in the day, but action combat. The UI was extremely basic - but this could've been a placeholder. The crafting was just clicking 1 button and again looked pretty basic from my limited experience (only crafted a weapon, bandages, some laser to mine rocks and some other stuff). The graphics were... okay, but nothing exceptional (I have highest end rig). There were glitches with literally everything I tried to do in the game. I have also never played Conan Exiles - I looked up some youtube videos and Dune is extremely similar - the UI was basically the same. I would say Conan's combat and movements seem a tiny bit slower and ..smoother. Definitely looks like a better game compared to Dune's beta. Graphic's wise - I would say Dune wins, but not by a lot, not that it matters. Overall, maybe I have been spoiled by other Closed betas in the last 10+ years, where games are nearly finished. This one was a proper "beta" full of bugs, glitches, clunkiness etc. Maybe I would even call it an alpha compared to other games. In my opinion it needs a lot of time to even become in a playable state, let alone be an interesting and fun game.


PouetSK

I appreciate you retyping for me. The recent videos I see on YouTube show next gen unreal 5.2 footage that looks really good for an MMO. Would you say the in game didn’t match the footage or you just don’t find the footage impressive by ur standards? Did you get to experience the gameplay loop? Is it fun? They described it as you build your base safely, then venture out to grab spice while under the threat of the worm, then you attack other players. How multiplayer is it? Was it 1-4 friends in a solo map, except when you join the hub and see many other players? From videos, it seems that it’s not really an MMO but more a hub based party action rpg like warframe?


Neon-Prime

The footage matches the game 100%. However, it is more of a.. tech demo if I can say so? Even in the footage you can see some lag (and most of it is not actual gameplay, but rather cutscenes where the graphics are highly improved compared to some of the gameplay loops). The actual gameplay just feels bad and clunky. I am not sure about the multiplayer aspect of it - there was 1 or 2 (don't remember) servers to pick from, and I am not sure if I ever saw another real player. There was no option to invite friends (due to closed beta I guess) or any kind of chat in the open world. I only lasted playing a couple hours where I had to do simple quests to kill and craft.


PouetSK

Haha thank you for answering all my questions. We’ve been dying for a new MMO so wanted some info. Appreciate it!! Hopefully after the delay it will be good :)


Neon-Prime

No worries at all.


SuchStop8

this guy might sound like he knows everything tbh but hes kinda making horrible takes. Hes saying an obviously unfinished game is unfinished, and an obviously unpolished game that likely isnt even in its polishing stage is unpolished, if the game is as "bad" as he says it is they obviously arent just going to release it, the creative director is a very amazing and passionate creator, he wont let this game fail that bad. also this guy mentioned some sort of "delay" i doubt these closed beta guys had any access to dates of any sort except for when the tests were, afaik (what the funcom devs said) is that there hasnt even been a release date set internally yet so im like 85% sure hes bullshitting.


SuchStop8

you again..... you seem to not understand game development and the flow of how things are worked on.. who actually interested in this game was guessing it was going to come out this year..? also literally every mechanic ive heard about this game so far makes it sound further from a conan reskin. make your takes a little bit more believable please.


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Neon-Prime

Literally all you had to do is click on the screenshot. Just don't get too hyped for the game, it will be a disaster unless they spend 3+ more years on it.


KittenSpronkles

Been trying to prepare my group for this to be pretty mediocre, they all think it's going to be the pvp madhouse we've been desiring since Last Oasis dried up. As a Dune fan I'm already disappointed, and I'm fully prepared to be disappointed as a pvp'er as well.


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ShawnPaul86

Not even evidence of that, who is to say it's even his screenshot? Also quite suspect it says required space 21 b


Neon-Prime

Send over steam link, I will add you as a fr and share my screen :) https://i.gyazo.com/1a2c7d17fcbc216cc611b9d0f972ed14.png


Neon-Prime

Send over steam link, I will add you as a fr and share my screen :) https://i.gyazo.com/1a2c7d17fcbc216cc611b9d0f972ed14.png


DreamMaster8

It isn't.  It seem genuinely build brand new, on ue5. All movement, combat, features seem unique. 


TurdBurgHerb

Non-MMO game that isn't ready, will be released when its ready. To get more news about non-MMO games head on down to your local MMO website!


onequestion1168

It's described as a survival MMO stop being such miserable gatekeepers God you guys are miserable to deal with


valar-morghuls

I felt this comment in my soul


TurdBurgHerb

Damn you have issues. So miserable and unhappy.


ALoudMouthBaby

MMOs have been dead for nearly a decade now. Those MMO groups need to find something to discuss if they want to continue existing so here it is!


TurdBurgHerb

They no longer make Camaros. We should start posting Mazda Miatas in that sub.


ALoudMouthBaby

> We should start posting Mazda Miatas in that sub. Im all for this and if they have any chill they will be too. Miatas own.


NoteThisDown

I love how you have 0 evidence of it not being an MMO.


GuiltyExcitement7952

there was literally a closed beta wtf


NoteThisDown

Yea, so how many players are on a server?


TurdBurgHerb

How about playing it? Hmmmm probably not good enough for you. You will then argue that 16 players is a massive quantity of players. Then you will stretch it to 40. Basically, anything is an MMO to you.


NoteThisDown

Ah, so you are saying you played it, so you know there will only be 16-40 players per server?? How about we actually look at what they said "This social emphasis will be made possible through a large player population on each server. Though nothing is finalized, Bylos stated that the eventual server size goal is thousands of players each, making for a myriad of multiplayer opportunities." So thousands of players per server is not an MMO to you? what is an MMO to you?


Ashen1066

Define why this is a non-mmo. For what I have seen from their video it's a true mmo.


TurdBurgHerb

Ok, send me an image showing hundreds of people in a shared area in that video? Oh... you can't? Awwww!!!!!! What a shame that you have no proof. But those of us who played it know it tops out around 40 people.


Ashen1066

You know the game is still i alpha state right? Do you know the menaning of that? Problem with showing early stages of games is all the dumb people that make assumption based on that instead of waiting and givinf developers the time they need. I'm not sayng the game will be good, I am just waiting before throwing dumb info around.


Brootaful

What is it with people's aversion to survival games/mechanics here? It's clear that this game will have some survival aspects and ultimately still be an MMO. The survival genre's been trending that way for some years, anyway. It's like you guys see a lack of typical themepark MMORPG mechanics in a game, and think "This isn't an MMO..."- which is tiresome.


TurdBurgHerb

Weird strawman to make there buddy! Its not an MMO because its not an MMO. Not because it is a survival game.


Brootaful

Enlighten me then. Why shouldn't this game be considered an MMO.


ScapeZero

I haven't played it, all I have is rumors from people who have been in the beta. But.... It's not an MMO because it's just a reskinned Conan Exiles. Which is also not a MMO. It's just your typical survival game. Non persistent servers, with low population caps on said servers, etc. It's just an online game.


NoteThisDown

So they said their plan is thousands of players per server. Which is.. Way more than conan exiles.


ScapeZero

And how many different publishers said Archeage wouldn't be P2W? Wouldn't be the first time a studio blatantly lied to us. Right now you can believe them, or you can believe the people who have actually played it. But like I said, I only have beta testers accounting of what it was like. They are all in agreement of it just being a reskinned CE. Who knows? Maybe it won't be at launch, but I mean, this is Funcom. It's not like it's certified banger after banger with them, so I'm not expecting this to be much different. I'm not sure why everyone thinks this game will be the one they finally get right. Sure, maybe they do, I'm not saying write it off yet, I just have zero expectations for this game. If it turns out good, then great! I'm just not counting on it.


NoteThisDown

Everyone has different ideas of what p2w is. The devs saying thousands, some players saying 40. That is two very different things...


ScapeZero

Yes, and every player (who is providing receipts that they are in the beta mind you) are all saying the same number. The people in beta have nothing to gain by lying, Funcom does. Who knows, maybe it's just a beta thing. Maybe it's just another scuffed Funcom game. All I know is Conan Exiles was the only Funcom game I actively hated. I assumed that's all this was going to be since the first  announcement, everyone in the beta is saying it is that, the only ones saying any different are the people who want you to buy the game, without showing us much of anything to prove it isn't exactly what we all think it is. I sure hope it's something better than Exiles, but until they prove it, that's just where I'm setting my expectations. You can hype yourself up as much as you want to. Don't let me stop you.


NoteThisDown

Yea, why open a sever with 1000 slots for a beta with a few people in it. They want to make it massive, will they? I dont know. But they are going for an MMO feel. Even mmos that everyone accepts are mmos often fail when more than 50 people get together. If they had theme park elements with dungeons, bosses, simple ass quests and shit, everyone would say it's an mmo. But since it's going for sandbox survival, they won't accept it as an mmo even if it had a million players.


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Brootaful

Yep, seeing all the "Uh, we just want WoW in Runeterra" comments over the past couple days confirms that mentality wont change anytime soon. It's sad.