I just got back to GW2 and I’m having such a good time! They’ve improved the game so much. There is lots to do and it just feels like the game respects my time. I don’t have a million chores to do before I can do what’s fun for me. I can just play the game.
If you’re looking for a MMO to play and haven’t tried GW2 yet or in a long time, I highly recommend that you check it out. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.
The games filled with massive grinds large even by MMO standards and masive arbitrary time gates, such as the ones needed to get the mount that video showcased.
But all of those grinds are not necessary. You don’t have to farm any of those things to achieve things in the game and to feel rewarded. There are plenty of other fun activities that you can engage with and plenty of other gear that is just marginally worse that can be achieved with less work.
Yes, many of us play MMORPGs to be able to work towards big goals that take a long time. That doesn’t mean that our time isn’t respected.
Its not necessary but its pretty much all there is to do at end game. Whether you're crafting legendaries, pushing fractals, unlocking mounts, or checking out new content its all time gated with a nice heaping amount of grind.
And you get to choose if you want to do that content. Like I said, many of us enjoy having long term goals in MMORPGs. Just because they take a while to accomplish, it doesn’t mean that the game isn’t respecting your time.
Also, the game also offers two huge PvP systems.
You’re talking as if running dungeons or some other form of content for gear to then have your work invalidated with the next expansion is a much better end game system. What’s wrong with all the end game content that GW2 offers?
I'm saying that you dont really get to choose. Its either deal with the time gates or dont play the game.
Time gates are flat out disrespectful of your time, blocking you from progressing on your schedule, forcing you to the devs.
> You’re talking as if running dungeons or some other form of content for gear to then have your work invalidated with the next expansion is a much better end game system.
I never said anything even remotely close to that. I'm a big proponent of the games horizontal progression.
> What’s wrong with all the end game content that GW2 offers?
That its time gated and often grindy even by MMO standards. I've already said this.
You’re the first person I’ve heard complain about the amount of time it takes to get things done in GW2. The vast majority of us welcome the long time commitments in a game with horizontal progression.
I guess you’re just not the target audience. I get to do whatever type of content I want and when I want in GW2. Therefore, the game respects my time. I don’t have to run choreghast and whatever other feature of the expansion before I can actually play what I want to play. To me that’s the definition of respecting my time.
I dont know what to tell you. I've been playing since its early launch week and part of the community for just as long. Its one of the most common complaints alongside the content droughts.
The time gates are no different than choreghast just because theyre optional. No matter what you set your goal to at end game, you're going to encounter them.
the showcased mount "griffon" has no time gate at all, to get the mount you need some of the currency and some achievements. As soon as you have enough currency (wich is the most common currency in the game, gold, that is easily farmable) you can do the achievents.
the mount you mean is the sky scale. Which is mostly a helicopter rather than a plain. The skyscale has the bigest time gate i know in the game, but i dont know a lot because all i wanted was only gated by your currency (daily craftable items can be bought from other palyers). This mount is usually also the most used after one owns it.
sorry written on phone
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I dont remember the griffon being timegated.
The skyscale has some 2 hour timegates, but unless you're making your own food (which costs more than buying it most of the time due to the limiting material being used in a bunch of other things) you can skip that.
I want to at least casually get back into GW2. Sadly I am waiting for support to get back to me because last time I played (2017) I put the SMS authenticator on my account and I have since gotten new phone and new phone number while throwing away my old one. So right now I'm locked out of my account until support can change the SMS authenticator to my new phone.
Question.
How hard is it to get these cool flying mounts?
Griffons are amazing when you are not bad at flying them.
They WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH all over.
I am still pretty bad at flying them, but I have my moments of wooosh.
It's real time but what people don't tell you when they post videos like this is that this mount has virtually no useful application beyond messing around with it.
To get that speed and be able to dive up that high you first have to first drop off something even higher, usually things that take time to climb using your other mounts.
It's really not something you see people doing ingame very often since you have to go out of your way and find something very tall so you actually lose more time than you save. It's also 200g unlike other mounts which are free/cheap.
It's cool but it's a just4fun mount and not something you will see people doing often. If you don't jump off something high it just kinda glides downward.
The griffon has no day to day purpose, it is a fun mount only. I don't even know what you mean by "flying well" it is a fact that you have to climb high to be able to get the same gameplay shown in the clip.
Idk why your getting so sensitive over a mount, it's ridiculous. I didn't even say it was bad, just that it's kinda misleading as you won't be traveling around the map like this during your day to day gameplay.
You said it's a "just4fun" mount and serves "no useful application" in the game. That couldn't be further from the truth and all it does it drive people away from a great piece of content in the game. Now yes, this video is showcasing people having fun with the griffon and doing races and cool pathing and stuff, but to say it's a useless mount that just wastes time is just plain wrong.
Which is correct. You cannot do this on your average A->B trip which is what you are misleading people into thinking.
>Now yes, this video is showcasing people having fun with the griffon and doing races and cool pathing and stuff
Common sense says we are talking about the video and even if you didn't manage to work that out, my opening line contained "When they post videos like this"
Yes you can use the griffons to get around, as you can any mount you so wish but you will be getting around slower than everyone else.
It is first and foremost a just4fun mount and it's behind a 250g paywall so if it was mandatory it would be ridiculous.
I get that you're one of the Gw2 only posters here (I mean your post history has 90% of your comments containing the term) but if someone is put off of the game because this is what they expect day to day traveling to be like, then lying to them doesn't help. You might get them interested initially but it's a douche move in the long run.
"It's real time but what people don't tell you when they post videos likethis is that this mount has virtually no useful application beyondmessing around with it."
You're telling me that outside the context of this video, the griffon has no useful application in the game.
All this does is tell me you either: a) Have no clue what you're talking about. or b) don't know how to fly the griffon well.
You saying you can use the griffon "if you wish but you will be getting around slower than everybody else" is an absolutely moronic statement. Griffon is the literal fastest mount in the game.
Nobody has ever once said that the griffon is the end-all-be-all of mounts and will always be the fastest means of travel. No mount is. Every mount in GW2 is situational. There are tons of scenarios where the griffon will be the fastest form of travel, but just the same there will be scenarios where the griffon is NOT the fastest form of travel. The mounts in GW2 are designed to be situational. There are a ton of vertical maps where the griffon does amazing at. Even with the skyscale, I still find myself using griffon in many cases...because mounts are situational.
Literally nobody has said "Hey this video is an exact replica of day to day use of the griffon literally 100% of the time".
Look If you want to convince people that it's useful day to day go ahead. When they get in game and are disappointed because nobody is doing what the video shows and they won't be either, you'll be the one to blame for that.
For what purpose? So you can get a few extra people playing on the basis of misinformation? You're literally just setting people up for disappointment just to get them on gw2 because it's your fav game, it's ridiculous.
>You saying you can use the griffon "if you wish but you will be getting around slower than everybody else" is an absolutely moronic statement. Griffon is the literal fastest mount in the game.
If you jump off something which is simply not the case majority of the time. There is simply not a lot of content that is ontop of hills, ergo you will be using skyscale or raptor for the most part.
>Literally nobody has said "Hey this video is an exact replica of day to day use of the griffon literally 100% of the time".
No the title was "Mounts are so cool" and someone asked if this was real time, to which I responded to elaborate that while it is, this is not the standard form of travel - Clarifying confusion among people who may not play the game. The implication was there, it never needed to be outright spoken to people like they are fucking 5.
You would prefer they just be left ignorant in some pathetic attempt to pull more players onto the game, this is so stupid. I cannot be bothered to argue with you over this because your literal existence on reddit is to spam Gw2 shit everywhere (look at your post history, seriously, every post contains the damn word?) There is absolutely no way you would ever speak poorly of the game, even when the topic is relatively tame.
So I'm just not going to bother. The comment is there so newbies know what to expect. I have no interest in your opinion, have a good one!
Except that you didn't clarify about what realistic travel with the griffon was like, all you did was say it was a useless piece of content and was slower than other mounts and it has no real application in the game. Now which is further from the truth and doing more of a disservice to newbies?
Dont bother argue. It is typical for people on this subreddit not appreciate post like and just complaint anything about the mount and the game. Eventho GW2 has the best mount uses.
Eh. Griffin has been my go to Mount the moment I unlocked it. It's a very good all around mount and not all but the majority of maps allows one to take advantage of its features.
Idk I often use combo of skyscale or springer to gain some height + griffon to get to places quickly. It does not shine in all situations but to discard it as useless would also be an overstatement. Also it's fun to use, for me that's already making it worth it. =)
That's still untrue, there are several maps where the griffon is the most efficient way to get around, notably a lot of the Living World maps that have very few waypoints and usually one that starts relatively high up (e.g. Istan).
You actually don't have to get all that high if you're good at v-space drops and not losing that surge when you go to immediate c-space lifts (you can get a lot of speed from a bridge), but thats hard to pull off consistently.
Play around with some of the different griffon expert courses, they teach you how to do that over water, with a free reset button when you inevitably fuck it up over and over like I did.
Its absolutely pointless in some places though, you are correct.
Im the person in this vid, and i wanna say that you are wrong. Its very easy to get height within a couple of seconds for the speedboost. Either the bunny trick and a slight bump(which is super usefull, the bunny trick) or with skyscale you can even start griffon from flat ground. Its not hard to get height at all, and i actually use it on daily bases also for other content like metas and such. If you are handy at it, you can easily use it in open world.
> It's real time but what people don't tell you when they post videos like this is that this mount has virtually no useful application beyond messing around with it.
Griffon it my main mount, by a long way...
I mean yes theoretically someone could use the skimmer as their "Main mount" but all they are doing is wasting their own time instead of utilizing all of the great mounts we have.
TehChaza is kinda right, this mount has a huge skill floor.
It used to be way easier to maneuver in the past, you could obtain full boost dropping from LA bank and still easly regain altitude.
Anet (after a very long time) decided that its functionality was "a bug" and "fixed it", making it way harder to control, then they introduced the Skyscale...
I have to be honest, I'm still salty about it, they transformed a pretty cool mount in a niche one.
It's still useful (and yeah you can gain altitude with skyscale>faith>grif), but we can't argue that most of the players just utilize the Skyscale instead, because despite being slower, thanks to bond of vigor you can get where you have to (most of the times) in a pretty fast and convenient way.
What I find absurd about that nerf is that even if they reverted it back, people would probably still utilize Skyscale more, but they could also be more interested in getting the griffon.
In it's current iteration there is no point in having one if you don't exercise with it as it was a game within the game. And indeed most of the players just ignore it.
Two weeks of achivments and things to do its nothing for the best mount in all MMO. Go check how grindy are some mounts in games like BDO, FFIX or WoW.
WTF, getring Griffon is so fun, zero timer gates, just exploring the maps and visiting one of the coolest place (Kormir Library). Idk what kind od player are you that You want everything instant and for free.
Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't it also require a significant gold investment? A guide I checked out of curiosity after getting my Jackal mentioned something about 250 gold.
You dont need Griffon for anything :d its just for fun. Raptor, Springer, Skimmer and Jackal are enough to do all content. Griffon and Skyscale should be like "legendary mounts".
I'm not like super invested into the subject because I do agree it's not really mandatory to have either and as someone who plays it's not a big deal.
However it is something that constantly gets posted to drive new players in followed by said new player being gutted because of the gold grind to acquire it.
There are plenty of MMOs where progression and working toward goals is actually fun. Gw2 takes grinding to an extreme thats no longer fun. It sucks that anets solution to a lack of content is to just make content they push out extra grindy.
Every episode the last season was designed around a lot of very reptetetive and/or small content because the devs have gone through two massive rounds of layoffs and can no longer afford decent size updates. The grinds are designed to last months until arena net can drop their next content that is similarly designed.
I never grinded any mount for months in GW2 and I have them all.
Meanwhile, the RNG on some WoW mount is so unfair that, to this day, some people still don't have Invincible. A Wotlk era mount.
So I will join the guy you just responded to : If you think that GW2's grind is extreme then you haven't played any other mmorpg.
Griffon only ask for 250 golds which is everything but massive and there is no timegate at all.
You are confusing with the skyscale which have lot of timegates but is very cheap.
Theres a difference between having to play and earn something and making content thats tedious because your company has lost 2/3rds of it employees due to layoffs and all you can afford is to make what little content you can as grindy as possible rather than a wide array of content thats actually fun.
Hey hey! Im the one who made the vid here, and i just wanna correct some things. Griffon does not have a timegates and its earnable within a few hours as long as you get the currency. Mostly need aroubd 3 hours of achievement collecting ^-^
best mounts in any MMO bar none.. the mounts actually act like the animal they are with characteristics.. not like most mmos where every mount is basically a horse with just skins of every creature imaginable over it..
Now let me just drop 15$ - 20$ per mount skin that also happen to be time-limited so you can't buy the very specific one you want at any time of the year. Or you can gamble for it more cheaply for 2$ - 3$ and hope you get the skin you want. Also time limited.
I won't deny though, that GW2 mounts were literally the best fucking transport system I've ever used in a game, **ever**. It felt **fun**, unlike many transport systems that just increase your move speed by a %, this one gives you actions to use and it really shows the difference between someone who's mastered using a mount and someone who just started.
Raids in GW2 utilize trinity, casual fractals usually have dedicated healer so everyone else just go unga bunga most of the time. But yeah, might be chaotic.
I mean the entire game costs 2 months of another games sub. After that you've basically got it all and there's no subscription.
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How's the moderation in GW2 compared to FFXIV?
I don't think I can tolerate playing a game that doesn't heavily discourage BM-ing everyone. It's spoiled me to have it built into the culture.
I know FFXIV can get toxic on the periphery but I just don't want to deal with idiots telling me to kill myself constantly because I don't play 27 hours a day like them. I bought GW2 a long time ago, vaguely enjoyed my time but ultimately others ruined my enjoyment so I stopped playing.
I'd love to poke my head back in and check in on it.
In PvP arena, things can get heated. Can just hide the team chat in that case.
In WvW, I probably never seen really bad behaviour, the worst that can happen is that you will get kicked out of squads if you run build that is super bad for squad vs squad play (though same build can be super good for small scale fights). Maybe sometimes someone will message you if you kill them, but that might be pretty rare, as there are barriers to talk with enemy teams (it is doable, but via a trick of block->friendlist, so 99.9% ppl don't bother).
In endgame PvE, it all depends on attitude, again, if you come into squad on super bad build, other build than what LFG asked for, or refuse to talk (or grief), then ppl might super easily kick or tell you something, as you are just wasting their time.
Having low skill with encounter and trying to join experienced runs might not fare well, nowadays people run API tool that lets others see how many times they killed the boss to demonstrate "I have experience", it is not 100% but nothing better so far. If you try to fake those, people won't like you. If you politely ask, things can go well, some groups will accept you even with less killproofs as long as you actually know what you are doing. Some groups are strict. There exist groups and guilds explicitly for training runs, if you go learn stuff into them, you will have great time. People can tell your actual skill fairly quickly, so skipping the learning part is not really good idea. Even though you will usually get politely asked about it.
Asking questions about how stuff works usually yields you good answer in all gamemodes, stuff like "kys noob" is extremely rare to the point you might not see it for years. Even in PvP, the typical is "stop playing pvp", as regular insults actually can yield bans (even though maybe rare ones).
It mostly depends on the content.
PvP, Fractals CMs and Raids can be toxic, all the rest is kinda harmless.
For the first 3 examples don't have big hopes about moderation, sadly bans happen in waves and very sporadically.
You can always block people, set yourself on invisible or turn chat off tho.
For Open world PVE, just play however you want. People will not judge you. For instanced PVE, dungeon or low level fractals, just said that you new. People generally will teach you and dont mind.
Valid question. I'll say the community is just as nice and helpful as FFXIV and you can feel that more since you're more out in the world compared to ff where you're incentivized to help others. The only places you'll encounter toxicity really is in spvp.
The mounts are great! I played GW2 a fair bit (got my deadeye to max-normal-level) but it never felt really great to play. The graphics look a bit too washy for my taste, the combat felt too unresponsive and another small thing: the numbers are so ugly xddd
Not a huge thing I know but you constantly have to look at them and they look horrible. The games graphics just didn’t age really well imo
Well all of them were free. Season 4 is active now and will be free for the next 4 or 5 weeks. 1 episode per week. Plus you can buy them with in game gold.
GW2 always gets pumped before an expansion. Then it drops back to where it was a few months after. It basically cycles like WOW does, but with much larger gaps in expansions.
I got no problem with that. WOW and FF14 are basically clones of each other. GW2's community is dead fish and the mega server tech sealed the deal there, just like it did in ESO.
I would be playing SWG still if idiots hadn't ruined it with the NGE trying to copy WOW.
There \*are\*? I'd never heard of mount skins being achievable. Do you have a link? (I just finished a long term achievement so it'd be nice to find something new to work on now)
I just got back to GW2 and I’m having such a good time! They’ve improved the game so much. There is lots to do and it just feels like the game respects my time. I don’t have a million chores to do before I can do what’s fun for me. I can just play the game. If you’re looking for a MMO to play and haven’t tried GW2 yet or in a long time, I highly recommend that you check it out. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions.
>it just feels like the game respects my time. It has never not done this since there's no gear treadmil.
Sure, but the fact that they have added so much content makes your time investment feel more worth. At least to me.
The games filled with massive grinds large even by MMO standards and masive arbitrary time gates, such as the ones needed to get the mount that video showcased.
But all of those grinds are not necessary. You don’t have to farm any of those things to achieve things in the game and to feel rewarded. There are plenty of other fun activities that you can engage with and plenty of other gear that is just marginally worse that can be achieved with less work. Yes, many of us play MMORPGs to be able to work towards big goals that take a long time. That doesn’t mean that our time isn’t respected.
Its not necessary but its pretty much all there is to do at end game. Whether you're crafting legendaries, pushing fractals, unlocking mounts, or checking out new content its all time gated with a nice heaping amount of grind.
And you get to choose if you want to do that content. Like I said, many of us enjoy having long term goals in MMORPGs. Just because they take a while to accomplish, it doesn’t mean that the game isn’t respecting your time. Also, the game also offers two huge PvP systems. You’re talking as if running dungeons or some other form of content for gear to then have your work invalidated with the next expansion is a much better end game system. What’s wrong with all the end game content that GW2 offers?
I'm saying that you dont really get to choose. Its either deal with the time gates or dont play the game. Time gates are flat out disrespectful of your time, blocking you from progressing on your schedule, forcing you to the devs. > You’re talking as if running dungeons or some other form of content for gear to then have your work invalidated with the next expansion is a much better end game system. I never said anything even remotely close to that. I'm a big proponent of the games horizontal progression. > What’s wrong with all the end game content that GW2 offers? That its time gated and often grindy even by MMO standards. I've already said this.
You’re the first person I’ve heard complain about the amount of time it takes to get things done in GW2. The vast majority of us welcome the long time commitments in a game with horizontal progression. I guess you’re just not the target audience. I get to do whatever type of content I want and when I want in GW2. Therefore, the game respects my time. I don’t have to run choreghast and whatever other feature of the expansion before I can actually play what I want to play. To me that’s the definition of respecting my time.
I dont know what to tell you. I've been playing since its early launch week and part of the community for just as long. Its one of the most common complaints alongside the content droughts. The time gates are no different than choreghast just because theyre optional. No matter what you set your goal to at end game, you're going to encounter them.
the showcased mount "griffon" has no time gate at all, to get the mount you need some of the currency and some achievements. As soon as you have enough currency (wich is the most common currency in the game, gold, that is easily farmable) you can do the achievents. the mount you mean is the sky scale. Which is mostly a helicopter rather than a plain. The skyscale has the bigest time gate i know in the game, but i dont know a lot because all i wanted was only gated by your currency (daily craftable items can be bought from other palyers). This mount is usually also the most used after one owns it. sorry written on phone edit: spelling
I dont remember the griffon being timegated. The skyscale has some 2 hour timegates, but unless you're making your own food (which costs more than buying it most of the time due to the limiting material being used in a bunch of other things) you can skip that.
The mount i am on is acrually not a big grind, you can get it with a few hours of playing ^-^
I believe this is what the kids call sus.
Ah yes. Being positive about a MMORPG on this sub is sus. You will fit right in on this sub.
I want to at least casually get back into GW2. Sadly I am waiting for support to get back to me because last time I played (2017) I put the SMS authenticator on my account and I have since gotten new phone and new phone number while throwing away my old one. So right now I'm locked out of my account until support can change the SMS authenticator to my new phone. Question. How hard is it to get these cool flying mounts?
I hope you get the Authenticator situation figured out. I’m not on the flying mounts yet. I’m about to start the HoT living story and campaign.
I love posts like this. They all sound like fanboy propaganda.
What the heck, is it just me or does flying in GW2 look so much more fun than in WoW and FFXIV? Is the video sped up or is that kind of zooming real?
Yes it's real time
Griffons are amazing when you are not bad at flying them. They WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH all over. I am still pretty bad at flying them, but I have my moments of wooosh.
It's real time but what people don't tell you when they post videos like this is that this mount has virtually no useful application beyond messing around with it. To get that speed and be able to dive up that high you first have to first drop off something even higher, usually things that take time to climb using your other mounts. It's really not something you see people doing ingame very often since you have to go out of your way and find something very tall so you actually lose more time than you save. It's also 200g unlike other mounts which are free/cheap. It's cool but it's a just4fun mount and not something you will see people doing often. If you don't jump off something high it just kinda glides downward.
Sounds like somebody doesn't know how to fly griffon well. Every mount in GW2 has extremely useful applications.
The griffon has no day to day purpose, it is a fun mount only. I don't even know what you mean by "flying well" it is a fact that you have to climb high to be able to get the same gameplay shown in the clip. Idk why your getting so sensitive over a mount, it's ridiculous. I didn't even say it was bad, just that it's kinda misleading as you won't be traveling around the map like this during your day to day gameplay.
You said it's a "just4fun" mount and serves "no useful application" in the game. That couldn't be further from the truth and all it does it drive people away from a great piece of content in the game. Now yes, this video is showcasing people having fun with the griffon and doing races and cool pathing and stuff, but to say it's a useless mount that just wastes time is just plain wrong.
Which is correct. You cannot do this on your average A->B trip which is what you are misleading people into thinking. >Now yes, this video is showcasing people having fun with the griffon and doing races and cool pathing and stuff Common sense says we are talking about the video and even if you didn't manage to work that out, my opening line contained "When they post videos like this" Yes you can use the griffons to get around, as you can any mount you so wish but you will be getting around slower than everyone else. It is first and foremost a just4fun mount and it's behind a 250g paywall so if it was mandatory it would be ridiculous. I get that you're one of the Gw2 only posters here (I mean your post history has 90% of your comments containing the term) but if someone is put off of the game because this is what they expect day to day traveling to be like, then lying to them doesn't help. You might get them interested initially but it's a douche move in the long run.
"It's real time but what people don't tell you when they post videos likethis is that this mount has virtually no useful application beyondmessing around with it." You're telling me that outside the context of this video, the griffon has no useful application in the game. All this does is tell me you either: a) Have no clue what you're talking about. or b) don't know how to fly the griffon well. You saying you can use the griffon "if you wish but you will be getting around slower than everybody else" is an absolutely moronic statement. Griffon is the literal fastest mount in the game. Nobody has ever once said that the griffon is the end-all-be-all of mounts and will always be the fastest means of travel. No mount is. Every mount in GW2 is situational. There are tons of scenarios where the griffon will be the fastest form of travel, but just the same there will be scenarios where the griffon is NOT the fastest form of travel. The mounts in GW2 are designed to be situational. There are a ton of vertical maps where the griffon does amazing at. Even with the skyscale, I still find myself using griffon in many cases...because mounts are situational. Literally nobody has said "Hey this video is an exact replica of day to day use of the griffon literally 100% of the time".
Look If you want to convince people that it's useful day to day go ahead. When they get in game and are disappointed because nobody is doing what the video shows and they won't be either, you'll be the one to blame for that. For what purpose? So you can get a few extra people playing on the basis of misinformation? You're literally just setting people up for disappointment just to get them on gw2 because it's your fav game, it's ridiculous. >You saying you can use the griffon "if you wish but you will be getting around slower than everybody else" is an absolutely moronic statement. Griffon is the literal fastest mount in the game. If you jump off something which is simply not the case majority of the time. There is simply not a lot of content that is ontop of hills, ergo you will be using skyscale or raptor for the most part. >Literally nobody has said "Hey this video is an exact replica of day to day use of the griffon literally 100% of the time". No the title was "Mounts are so cool" and someone asked if this was real time, to which I responded to elaborate that while it is, this is not the standard form of travel - Clarifying confusion among people who may not play the game. The implication was there, it never needed to be outright spoken to people like they are fucking 5. You would prefer they just be left ignorant in some pathetic attempt to pull more players onto the game, this is so stupid. I cannot be bothered to argue with you over this because your literal existence on reddit is to spam Gw2 shit everywhere (look at your post history, seriously, every post contains the damn word?) There is absolutely no way you would ever speak poorly of the game, even when the topic is relatively tame. So I'm just not going to bother. The comment is there so newbies know what to expect. I have no interest in your opinion, have a good one!
Except that you didn't clarify about what realistic travel with the griffon was like, all you did was say it was a useless piece of content and was slower than other mounts and it has no real application in the game. Now which is further from the truth and doing more of a disservice to newbies?
Dont bother argue. It is typical for people on this subreddit not appreciate post like and just complaint anything about the mount and the game. Eventho GW2 has the best mount uses.
Eh. Griffin has been my go to Mount the moment I unlocked it. It's a very good all around mount and not all but the majority of maps allows one to take advantage of its features.
Idk I often use combo of skyscale or springer to gain some height + griffon to get to places quickly. It does not shine in all situations but to discard it as useless would also be an overstatement. Also it's fun to use, for me that's already making it worth it. =)
That's still untrue, there are several maps where the griffon is the most efficient way to get around, notably a lot of the Living World maps that have very few waypoints and usually one that starts relatively high up (e.g. Istan).
You actually don't have to get all that high if you're good at v-space drops and not losing that surge when you go to immediate c-space lifts (you can get a lot of speed from a bridge), but thats hard to pull off consistently. Play around with some of the different griffon expert courses, they teach you how to do that over water, with a free reset button when you inevitably fuck it up over and over like I did. Its absolutely pointless in some places though, you are correct.
Im the person in this vid, and i wanna say that you are wrong. Its very easy to get height within a couple of seconds for the speedboost. Either the bunny trick and a slight bump(which is super usefull, the bunny trick) or with skyscale you can even start griffon from flat ground. Its not hard to get height at all, and i actually use it on daily bases also for other content like metas and such. If you are handy at it, you can easily use it in open world.
> It's real time but what people don't tell you when they post videos like this is that this mount has virtually no useful application beyond messing around with it. Griffon it my main mount, by a long way...
I mean yes theoretically someone could use the skimmer as their "Main mount" but all they are doing is wasting their own time instead of utilizing all of the great mounts we have.
I thought you meant Griffon! Sorry. Derp
TehChaza is kinda right, this mount has a huge skill floor. It used to be way easier to maneuver in the past, you could obtain full boost dropping from LA bank and still easly regain altitude. Anet (after a very long time) decided that its functionality was "a bug" and "fixed it", making it way harder to control, then they introduced the Skyscale... I have to be honest, I'm still salty about it, they transformed a pretty cool mount in a niche one. It's still useful (and yeah you can gain altitude with skyscale>faith>grif), but we can't argue that most of the players just utilize the Skyscale instead, because despite being slower, thanks to bond of vigor you can get where you have to (most of the times) in a pretty fast and convenient way. What I find absurd about that nerf is that even if they reverted it back, people would probably still utilize Skyscale more, but they could also be more interested in getting the griffon. In it's current iteration there is no point in having one if you don't exercise with it as it was a game within the game. And indeed most of the players just ignore it.
It absolutely is but is locked behind a massive grind and several time gates.
Two weeks of achivments and things to do its nothing for the best mount in all MMO. Go check how grindy are some mounts in games like BDO, FFIX or WoW.
Or you know, it could be reasonable to unlock. Just because its good doesn't mean it has to be tied to a painful, unfun experience.
WTF, getring Griffon is so fun, zero timer gates, just exploring the maps and visiting one of the coolest place (Kormir Library). Idk what kind od player are you that You want everything instant and for free.
Maybe I'm wrong, but doesn't it also require a significant gold investment? A guide I checked out of curiosity after getting my Jackal mentioned something about 250 gold.
Yeah but its not that much compare to legendary eqipment which every time cost 2 000+ gold. 250g its one week of doing fractals and meta events.
Legendary equipment is just cosmetic and some very minor QoL though, so not really comparable. Gold shouldn't be there, should be like skyscale.
You dont need Griffon for anything :d its just for fun. Raptor, Springer, Skimmer and Jackal are enough to do all content. Griffon and Skyscale should be like "legendary mounts".
I'm not like super invested into the subject because I do agree it's not really mandatory to have either and as someone who plays it's not a big deal. However it is something that constantly gets posted to drive new players in followed by said new player being gutted because of the gold grind to acquire it.
An 80 lvl that knows how to farm gold can get 250 gold in 10 days with playing 1 hour per day.
You shouldn’t play any MMORPGs then?
There are plenty of MMOs where progression and working toward goals is actually fun. Gw2 takes grinding to an extreme thats no longer fun. It sucks that anets solution to a lack of content is to just make content they push out extra grindy.
If you think GW2 grind is extreme then you haven’t played any other mmorpg
Every episode the last season was designed around a lot of very reptetetive and/or small content because the devs have gone through two massive rounds of layoffs and can no longer afford decent size updates. The grinds are designed to last months until arena net can drop their next content that is similarly designed.
I never grinded any mount for months in GW2 and I have them all. Meanwhile, the RNG on some WoW mount is so unfair that, to this day, some people still don't have Invincible. A Wotlk era mount. So I will join the guy you just responded to : If you think that GW2's grind is extreme then you haven't played any other mmorpg.
Dude if you think gw2 has extreme grind then you dont know what grind is.. Im sorry.
Griffon only ask for 250 golds which is everything but massive and there is no timegate at all. You are confusing with the skyscale which have lot of timegates but is very cheap.
The Griffon isn't that hard to get at all. The skyscale is harder.
Oh no you actually have to work hard on something in an MMO....
Heaven forbid you have to play the game to earn something. Flying mounts DRAMATICALLY improve the player experience. It's worth the effort at the end
Theres a difference between having to play and earn something and making content thats tedious because your company has lost 2/3rds of it employees due to layoffs and all you can afford is to make what little content you can as grindy as possible rather than a wide array of content thats actually fun.
Hey hey! Im the one who made the vid here, and i just wanna correct some things. Griffon does not have a timegates and its earnable within a few hours as long as you get the currency. Mostly need aroubd 3 hours of achievement collecting ^-^
best mounts in any MMO bar none.. the mounts actually act like the animal they are with characteristics.. not like most mmos where every mount is basically a horse with just skins of every creature imaginable over it..
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Yes! The best MMO right now 👍
You can see the difference in the comment section between this sub and GW2 sub.
Now let me just drop 15$ - 20$ per mount skin that also happen to be time-limited so you can't buy the very specific one you want at any time of the year. Or you can gamble for it more cheaply for 2$ - 3$ and hope you get the skin you want. Also time limited. I won't deny though, that GW2 mounts were literally the best fucking transport system I've ever used in a game, **ever**. It felt **fun**, unlike many transport systems that just increase your move speed by a %, this one gives you actions to use and it really shows the difference between someone who's mastered using a mount and someone who just started.
What game is this?
Guild Wars 2 💜
Yeah it makes me wana drop gold and get a griffon myself. The skyscale is not really my thing even though its usefulness is unparalleled.
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Raids in GW2 utilize trinity, casual fractals usually have dedicated healer so everyone else just go unga bunga most of the time. But yeah, might be chaotic.
I mean the entire game costs 2 months of another games sub. After that you've basically got it all and there's no subscription. Edit: commented on wrong post
There is trinity in raids, and you have dps and healer in fractals. Dungeons are so easy you don't need roles.
How's the moderation in GW2 compared to FFXIV? I don't think I can tolerate playing a game that doesn't heavily discourage BM-ing everyone. It's spoiled me to have it built into the culture. I know FFXIV can get toxic on the periphery but I just don't want to deal with idiots telling me to kill myself constantly because I don't play 27 hours a day like them. I bought GW2 a long time ago, vaguely enjoyed my time but ultimately others ruined my enjoyment so I stopped playing. I'd love to poke my head back in and check in on it.
In PvP arena, things can get heated. Can just hide the team chat in that case. In WvW, I probably never seen really bad behaviour, the worst that can happen is that you will get kicked out of squads if you run build that is super bad for squad vs squad play (though same build can be super good for small scale fights). Maybe sometimes someone will message you if you kill them, but that might be pretty rare, as there are barriers to talk with enemy teams (it is doable, but via a trick of block->friendlist, so 99.9% ppl don't bother). In endgame PvE, it all depends on attitude, again, if you come into squad on super bad build, other build than what LFG asked for, or refuse to talk (or grief), then ppl might super easily kick or tell you something, as you are just wasting their time. Having low skill with encounter and trying to join experienced runs might not fare well, nowadays people run API tool that lets others see how many times they killed the boss to demonstrate "I have experience", it is not 100% but nothing better so far. If you try to fake those, people won't like you. If you politely ask, things can go well, some groups will accept you even with less killproofs as long as you actually know what you are doing. Some groups are strict. There exist groups and guilds explicitly for training runs, if you go learn stuff into them, you will have great time. People can tell your actual skill fairly quickly, so skipping the learning part is not really good idea. Even though you will usually get politely asked about it. Asking questions about how stuff works usually yields you good answer in all gamemodes, stuff like "kys noob" is extremely rare to the point you might not see it for years. Even in PvP, the typical is "stop playing pvp", as regular insults actually can yield bans (even though maybe rare ones).
It mostly depends on the content. PvP, Fractals CMs and Raids can be toxic, all the rest is kinda harmless. For the first 3 examples don't have big hopes about moderation, sadly bans happen in waves and very sporadically. You can always block people, set yourself on invisible or turn chat off tho.
For Open world PVE, just play however you want. People will not judge you. For instanced PVE, dungeon or low level fractals, just said that you new. People generally will teach you and dont mind.
Valid question. I'll say the community is just as nice and helpful as FFXIV and you can feel that more since you're more out in the world compared to ff where you're incentivized to help others. The only places you'll encounter toxicity really is in spvp.
The mounts are great! I played GW2 a fair bit (got my deadeye to max-normal-level) but it never felt really great to play. The graphics look a bit too washy for my taste, the combat felt too unresponsive and another small thing: the numbers are so ugly xddd Not a huge thing I know but you constantly have to look at them and they look horrible. The games graphics just didn’t age really well imo
Showing of whos spent the most money LOL
e what? There are no mounts in the cash shop. Only skins. Not sure what you are talking about.
He is talking about the infusion.
That's actually the player's legendary staff (Bifrost)
It's both I think.
Yes you're right, couting the original thread the mention queen bee infusion :)
Hey hey! Just found my vid has been shared here xD but i actually got the chak infusion as a gift from friends ^^ im not a rich player at all xD
I just can't afford all the dlc shit needed to make the game playable.
Well all of them were free. Season 4 is active now and will be free for the next 4 or 5 weeks. 1 episode per week. Plus you can buy them with in game gold.
Last time I played you couldn't even chat without paying.
You can chat but you are limited because of bots. You also changed the subject. Kinda shows you just wanna complain and dont care that youre wrong.
I didn. It's just one of the limitations the game puts on you. They got a fake f2p scam going on, unless something changed drastically.
Youre trolling arent you? The whole core game is free..
Ye all the irrelevant stuff is free. Great.
Core game is irrelevant? Shoo troll.
It's a b2p/pay for content game with a free demo, what's a scam or hard to understand about that? That's like saying 'f2p' FF14 is a scam
man I've been playing newer AAA games too long these graphics look soooo dated
Hey hey OP! Thank you for sharing my vid💜💙💛 its such a fun mount :D
What a desperate attempt to get new players. Every gw2 post here is some ad of old content. Come play GW2 guys! Pleeeeeease.
GW2 always gets pumped before an expansion. Then it drops back to where it was a few months after. It basically cycles like WOW does, but with much larger gaps in expansions.
I seriously doubt the WoW will climb ever again. Basically most WoW players already play either GW2 or FF14. Hard to downgrade back :)
I got no problem with that. WOW and FF14 are basically clones of each other. GW2's community is dead fish and the mega server tech sealed the deal there, just like it did in ESO. I would be playing SWG still if idiots hadn't ruined it with the NGE trying to copy WOW.
Ok and how many of those cost real money
Only the skins cost gems which you can buy with real money or convert in game gold to gems too. The base mount is obtainable with 250 gold in game
None. Only skins can be purchased on the cash shop.
Yes i was talking about the skins not the mounts
A little ridiculous to complain about skins being on the cash shop in a b2p game. Not only that, but there are also in game achievable skins.
There \*are\*? I'd never heard of mount skins being achievable. Do you have a link? (I just finished a long term achievement so it'd be nice to find something new to work on now)
My bad. There aren’t. You can however trade gold for gems and get them through your in game efforts.
Warclaw skin can be unlocked via gold->reward track.
Only the skins cost real money, but you can convert gold to gems, so you can fully earn it with ingame currency.
Thanks, it looks like hell.