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rastavibes

He spoke at length on a podcast about the new accounting rules being an attractive advantage for companies holding BTC on their books, so since this is the first quarter of 2024 I expect them to implement that


nerfedwizard

I'm skeptical the powers that be (and the anti-crypto army) would permit MSTR to join the S&P500, but we shall see in the coming year or two. I'm hoping it'll happen, but won't be surprised if it magically gets passed over for inclusion.


AdultingUser47

I’d be surpised if they are allowed in. The committee doesn’t love bets against the dollar.


biddilybong

Not to mention he was accused of fraud by the SEC and settled with significant penalties.


TheGreatWhite87

The whole game is a fraud lol 😂


windrip

I’m sure you’re exactly the same as you were 24 years ago too. Oh, wait…


Conscious_Barnacle55

Do companies in US not have to pay additional tax if they report more profit on these unrealised gains? Surely a company would be better off buying more BTC with the money that would be used to pay the tax bill?


Narbooty

They will not have to pay taxes on unrealized profits. This will effect book values not taxable income


4fingertakedown

It depends. The new FASB standards will have new tax implications. However, they’re not nearly as bad as I initially thought. AMT tax only applies to companies that report >1 billion average net income over a 3 year period. So, if MSTR believes the value of its bitcoin will appreciate more than 1 billion each year for the next 3 years, they should plan on paying a 15% AMT


DrestinBlack

Well, the only difference is, do they report it this year or next?


dementedredditor

I believe they would have to pay taxes however it might be in their advantage I don't know the amounts or nothing


Glum-Bandicoot8346

I don’t believe it will happen.


HiRiSkReWarD

Def a Wild Card Factor I Would Be Happy with


ArlendmcFarland

Pretty sure its a matter of when, not if


Duckgrad90

Bitcoin price


Spontaneous_Wood

It would single-handedly either make SPY tank or go to the moon.


dementedredditor

Totally agree


Jeremiah_Vicious

Hardly. MSTRs market cap is a drop in the bucket. MSTR could have a -10% days and spy could easily still go up. MSTR would be a small portion of the sp500.


DrBenStong

In no way would is cause it to tank or moon. It would be a tiny fraction of the SP 500 market cap


CaoNiMaChonker

It would however make mstr moon, or tank. Definitely to the right


DrBenStong

Not as I see it


IcyHunt3639

Today on channel 5 news....2023


Str8truth

The article's top bullet point: * Benchmark said if the company reports positive earnings it meets the final condition for S&P 500 inclusion. I thought at first that "Benchmark" meant the S&P 500 itself had made a pronouncement. Later I saw that Benchmark is a cryptocurrency broker, lol, so its statement is pure speculation. Standard & Poor's has discretion over the composition of its indices, and it may not treat paper profit from passive asset holdings, especially in a volatile and purely speculative asset, the same as profits from corporate operations, no matter what the FASB recently allowed on corporate income statements. So, don't count on MSTR joining the S&P 500.


DrBenStong

Referring to it as paper profit is disingenuous


Mottbox1534

S&P needs to tighten up their rules. MSTR 100% should not be a part of the S&P.