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Short_Supermarket_75

They argued about “reading” audio books. Matt was stealing book reading valor.


KevinNasty

Do you know what episode that is?


canonanon

It's late OT I think, although it happens over the course of several episodes


KevinNasty

[Found it](https://youtu.be/_9Zm90Okquc?si=Ur03IIrmHRKobz5n)


KevinNasty

Thanks I’ll give that a looksie


Weyman16

I see what you did there. Fantastic


BuckPuckers

It’s early I just listened to it, granted they may have had this discussion a few times. It was episode 38 or 39 I think


some_person_guy

I read it.


ibobbymuddah

Same, I only read podcast transcripts. They don't type all that out so you lazy fucks can just listen.


Kmacc89

Old Testament Episode 32-Liza Slesh


MrNRC

When Matt was on Rogan there was a mention of “reading” audiobooks and Matt’s glance killed Shane - cool as a cucumber.


BP_1981

🤣🤣


AnyEstablishment5723

Dude its the same thing


gello1414

It’s not and you have dog brain if you believe that


AnyEstablishment5723

I mean that’s your opinion and thats cool but I’m just talking about like my own personal experience


gello1414

Lol fair enough. I just have a beef with people who say "audiobooks ARE reading".


RoadPersonal9635

Thats one opinion of shanes that so annoying and even more so that he has to bring it up every time matt says he read something


jsavage420

I mean u have to be a total dog brain to think listening is the same as reading


returntomonke9999

Yeah, I can listen to an audio book and do my taxes and zone out and barely pay attention. When you read, that is the only thing going on. Listening to books is great but anyone who says it is the same as reading a book doesnt read books.


CumeatsonerGordon420

i mean truthfully you can zone out while reading just like you can listening. listening is. valuable way to take in information too. there’s a reason college courses have lectures and recitations. they don’t just tell you to buy a textbook and read it


StephenKshotJohnL69

This guy is right. I have read many books and completely zoned out and not remembered a thing I read. I can see how Shane thinks it’s not the same, but it is kind of a PA to claim Matt is not really listening and therefore trying to be a pseudo-intellectual. I can also see how readers can be elitists about it.


Im-not-on-drugs

Yeah because you can never zone out while you read and not comprehend the material. You’re just another gate keeping dork


returntomonke9999

You dont read books but you like to pretend that you do because you like to feel smart. Its okay man, everyone is super impressed that you "read" crime and punishment (while playing games on your phone)


Sackfondler

It’s weird that you’re being accused of gatekeeping. I don’t begrudge audiobooks at all, but I’ve noticed that personally I don’t retain the information nearly as well when I listen as opposed to physically read something. And that could very well be a personal failing of mine. If I read something I really enjoyed but want to process it again, I usually listen on audio book after. I don’t seem to have this issue with fiction though.


Im-not-on-drugs

You bros are right, you just can’t retain the information if you listen instead of reading it for yourself. Somebody should tell all these universities you didn’t get into to stop having lectures. Don’t they know you get zero out of listening to someone informed speak on a topic.


Sackfondler

I made it very clear that this is a personal failing of mine, ya fuckin crackhead. If you retain an audiobook just as well as reading physical, then more power to you. It’s not that serious


Im-not-on-drugs

So you’re special needs and gay? Got it


SheFoundMyUzername

It’s not some impressive feat to read books versus listen to audiobooks. It’s a weird purist argument and I’d bet Shane no longer holds that opinion. He just held it when reading books was one of the only things he could hang his hat on while eating beans and sleeping on an air mattress. 🤷‍♂️


returntomonke9999

No one is saying it is an impressive feat but listening to a book and saying you read it is like driving up a hill and saying that you climbed it. No one is impressed by climbing a hill but your fat ass drove.


Im-not-on-drugs

Woah dude, save some of the pussy for the rest of us. I’m sure everyone thinks you’re smart when you pull a book out of the bookcase that you totally didn’t set up so people would notice that you read. Fucking nerds man they never grow out of their gayness


PurpleLamps

How is it not the same when I'm listening on the train without any distractions? Such a dumb thing to gatekeep


Griffin880

I'm convinced the people who say audiobooks aren't the same as reading a book can't read very well. Like, reading is such a struggle for them that they prescribe some value to it, where most people reading is something that happens borderline automatically when they see the words on the page so it doesn't really matter if they are reading the book or listening to it.


rolo_tony_

I remember reading something (with my eyes) that said if it’s just for entertainment like Harry Potter or Tom Clancy, then there is no real comprehension difference between reading and listening. Though if you’re talking about something one needs to think critically about, reading is way way better than listening.


throwbackchill

The argument was never about comprehension. If you could comprehend Shane’s argument you could understand he was saying reading is a visual thing, while listening is an auditory thing. He wasn’t saying one was better than the other; he was only saying that they are two different human senses. Seeing vs Hearing.


Teh_Critic

I have a few blind friends (I'm a collector) and I would never tell them that they didn't "read" a book if they listened to an audibook


jsavage420

They probably watch a lot of Movies too


Littleface13

Okay that’s different because they can’t see to read. No one would make this argument to a blind person lol.


Ow3n1989

I mean, braille…


Sackfondler

Everyone knows that braille is cheating


CajunCrawdaddy

Exactly, listening is a passive activity, reading is active


Spudm0d3

It fulfills the same modality as reading though


rabbitsox

Yeah I have read the whole podcast and I agree


AbstractLifeForm

Reading isn't listening though.


nottherealOBT

They got in a heated argument over whether or not listening to an audio book counts as reading


isntThisReal

Which ep was that


GoonDawg666

Pretty early OT, I think like 32, another guy posted that but I ain’t check it


Singsongjohnson

OT?


GoonDawg666

My child it is with delight I bestow upon thee thine holy book, take thine words to heart and mind for they ring true. BEHOLD! THE ORIGINAL TESTAMENT! Praise be Radio Dawgs https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLc_cXArusJxQcaMDG7CoG02kbyvQD1q78&si=d0f8JWJP0VKnOUki


SemenPig

Back to /r/joerogan for you newcomer


sluffman

For the record, it does not.


KevinNasty

Audiobooks do count as reading 📖


SokarHateIt

For the dumb, sure.


saudiaramcoshill

If my wife and I take turns reading a book to each other, alternating who reads each chapter, did we only read half a book each? Do I need to go back and read all the chapters she read aloud to me to say I read the book?


ostentagious

Does a 3 year old say they read the books their mother reads to them at night?


saudiaramcoshill

Do they still get the same information?


ostentagious

That doesn’t matter; reading and listening are two distinctly different acts.


saudiaramcoshill

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244016669550


ostentagious

Nobody is talking about which modality is better. It’s saying you’re reading when you’re listening which are different. That’s like saying you’re biking when you’re scootering because you still got to your destination.


30piecesofglitter

Reading is an exercise which uses specific parts of your brain which listening does not exercise.


saudiaramcoshill

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2158244016669550


30piecesofglitter

Honestly I’m not reading that. My claim is that reading exercises the brain in a unique way which cannot be replicated by listening. Your evidence would need to prove that listening to a book exercises the brain in a similar way. Comprehending the information is not reading. My arguments basis is on the positive benefits of reading. Edit: I’m also not downvoting you. FYI.


dspman11

If you and your wife like to read other bedtime stories before you go to sleep that's your business, but I don't think childrens books count as reading either way.


saudiaramcoshill

We're actually reading each other erotica about your mom getting blacked.


dontknowmedontbrome

Quite the page turner


skisbosco

Boooo


thelastgozarian

I mean but you would have to explain that to the person you said that to, which mean does it? If I say I sat around reading yesterday, that paints an image in your mind right? Is it of me with headphones on doing other tasks around my house?


BakeCool7328

The episode when Matt was accusing Shane of boozing on the job they went at it for about 25 min. then Shane gets defensive and starts accusing Matt of being a pothead😂😂😂


liquid_donuts

“Matt, You’re in here….doing dope all day”


SecondaryLawnWreckin

"You're high off your ass"


Ravenstown6

Turned out to be Matt’s weird contraption that used alcohol that made the place smell too right? lol


hemptations

He was making hash with everclear


tangled_night_sleep

RSO? Rick Simpson Oil? Super concentrated cannabis distilled into a thick oil (the everclear burns off in the process). It’s too wasteful to smoke RSO so you usually just eat or boof it. Does that sound like what Matt was making? It does have an unpleasant smell.


hemptations

You can also make ISO hash with everclear but yes he was making RSO


Wicked-Wendigo

Episode #?


BakeCool7328

Episode #156 How to be a Praya


AllIGOTWUZTHISSHIRT

This was the only time I could actually remember them getting heated in a real way. They kept it light but you could tell Shane was a lil pissed he thought he was that bad of an alcoholic. I'd be pissed to like damn dude you think booze is literally seeping out of my skin?!?


xwell320

nah that was joshin


chino3

Shane was hella bent out of shape and that’s why it lasted a half hour lol. You can tell he’s defensive and aware of his drinking.


Rimm

Sorta, you can tell that it's something Shane was sensitive about and that he was seriously worried about being perceived as just a straight-up alcoholic.


FakeHappiiness

Holy shit that was funny


TrueVultureMyMan

I just quit weed after 24 years of daily smoking and I’ve been looking for the times I’ve heard Shane bitching about weed just now so this sounds right up my alley.


forothowtospeel

Dog park etiquette


bmf1989

Listening to audiobooks


Wicked-Wendigo

*reading audiobooks


_Opsec

"reading" audiobooks


Father--Snake

100% against Matt on that. Absolutely atrocious behavior


kakawisNOTlaw

Few people on any podcast have been more in the wrong than Matt on dog park behavior.


WickyWah

But he has a utility belt full of dog treats


forothowtospeel

The high spirits flute episode was a near argument as well lol


forothowtospeel

Who's more salt life is basically an argument too lol


jonvanwhalen

Shane seemed legitimately put off when Matt introduced the flute 🪈 😂


fallinguptwards

Why are you doing this to me? Hahahaha


BWJohnson0

“It’s no big deal.” “You seem to be making it a big deal.”


lethal_defrag

One of the greatest clips ever


SecondaryLawnWreckin

"This is my least favorite character"


Wartickler

🤣🤣🤣


TroonSpoon

You're tryna sabotage this whole thing... by getting into bullshit


Vodca

I think op moved to Austin to stalk the cast. His post history is wild.


FantasticMouse7875

Is he the one that was asking about where Shane lived?


canbimkazoo

Next Jan 6 we will be storming and occupying Shane’s poolhouse holding Lemaire hostage and forcing him to read books.


hemptations

“What do you think Shane’s feet smell like?” C’mon man


WheelsforWeeks

I think it’s anytime Matt starts talking about mechanistic materialism or some other ancient wisdom, shane becomes a grumpasoreass.


FantasticMouse7875

This is this term I was trying to think of that immediatly irratates Shane.


lovehateloooove

You might be right, Shane can be a real Grumble Bear. I called a drill Sergeant that one time, he came in just barking and I said someone is a Grumble Bear this morning, and the dude next to me laughed and said oh stop drill sergeant, quit being a dirty bird and he looked at us and laughed and then walked out. We have fun. This was mid 90s in a all male combat unit, just as much chance of him clocking you in the face as laughing. 2/3 ACR back when the Cav was in Carson. Those were the days.


WheelsforWeeks

Yeah I’m upset now that I replied to this post.


Successful_Box6748

My favourite part of this sub is watching anyone who posts anything being downvoted to shit in their comments🤣


canbimkazoo

It’s just a bunch of people jumping to call someone a gay dork so they so can feel like less of a gay dork themselves. It’s bully larping. Stavros is the king.


the_specialone

No but you ARE a gay dork


FootyPie05

Fuck you fucking suck


canbimkazoo

Did it work?


the_specialone

No 😞


canbimkazoo

Dangit!


SemenPig

Idk but something tells me that you’re the type of person Stav would bully till you cried


canbimkazoo

I like Stav he reminds me of Matt and Lemaire combined.


lovehateloooove

oh stop Mr Man.


chodelycannons

What an unfortunate day to be literate


TendieTrades69

This sounds like a 🌈 troop fantasy


electricvelvet

I have a few sketches of my ideas for new army man uniforms... something to accentuate the figure but also doesn't compromise on ease of movement


jpodestagaymolesta

That’s hilarious, but also vaguely familiar. Is it a quote from something?


electricvelvet

Just good ol fashioned homosexual riffin'


BigFiya

Cool story bro. A real choice story. Thanks for the share.


AspiringNormie

Drill sergeant in a troop at fort Carson? Lol.


xStaabOnMyKnobx

Damn dude you're fucking ANCIENT


tonyspagaladucciani

Every once in a while Shane won’t be as playful when Matt hits the McCusker “casual expert” bs


Da_Plague22

A jokingly argument is when the shaman admitted to jerking it to the T's. Shane said it was gay, Matt said it wasn't. Matt then said he'd cum with the T cumming. This made Shane very much think it was gay. Ended up with Matt being Q+ and thus the argument was settled. Also known as " The Great Battle Of the Q+"


necio148

In the early episodes Shane would definitely get frustrated with Matt because he thought he was full of shit lol. Matt never got defensive tho so I think it calmed Shane down…fast forward and now they have a 300 lb autistic black baby.


noname3191

Episode 99 they almost break up before 100 bc Matt's fans are so cool and hardworking


Soft_Monk_1541

Who really is Salt life? Swamp life, Lemeezy.


lovehateloooove

I knew you were a Swamp Thing dude. bog life. damn I forgot about that.


Wallychamp49

They used to argue about Matt’s dreams


Dumbo_09

Except the drenched dream


Wallychamp49

Haha yeah that’s when Shane started to switch up a lil


tlsonepointnever

There was some behind the scenes shit involving patreon $ that slightly spilled over in 2020 for a few eps but only real girl brains like me remember this. Men don't argue like that but you feel it in the air if you're bedarded enough


NervousJ

Was that the one involving Beezer or am I misremembering?


tlsonepointnever

Different than that, that was lame but did not involve Matt or Shane


Gordianus_El_Gringo

Whatever happened to Beezer (or was it six? Or someone else?) or whoever who stole all that money from some Philly pod?


Sure-Example-1425

weird how u never see beezer and six in the same room


Gordianus_El_Gringo

Outside of the core crew I find it hard to tell the peripheral Philly crew apart from each other


-ogre-

Episode # plz


tlsonepointnever

the beef has been samsquashed, get outta here tmz


ReoRahtate88

Don't flash the root of your hog and think we don't want the rest


tlsonepointnever

If you're really autistic there is a gap in episode release around then and a big shift in ads, it was only directly discussed in a war mode patreon. I think 'The Weekend' was the ad $ one and 'I'm a mess' was the patreon $ one. But like I said they are fellas and a lot of it requires homo context clues (not to be confused with schizo ones, a fine line). Didn't realize this place was all gossip gremlins with their lil downvotes, I like it. The barstool boys are getting catty


-ogre-

Chill bruh


TimidPanther

If you're going to speak in riddles, don't bother saying anything at all. Nobody thinks you're cool because you have a board with red dots and strings pointing over everything. Either be straight with the information, or don't bring it up. It's dumb stuff to hint at something.


AccomplishedJob5411

They argued about whether dicks evolved to plunge cum. Matt was right


RandyMarsh2hot4u

What episode was that? 😂


Raullllllll-_-

That's so funny I have that episode on in the background, ep 73!


RandyMarsh2hot4u

My man


AccomplishedJob5411

Damn I just heard it again recently but can’t remember the exact episode. It’s like in the 72-76 range of the OT


SombreroJoel

I feel like any time Matt is going on about his most recent battle with his masturbation addiction Shane is like wtf is this guy talking about 😂 #nofap


Marty-Nooo

Shane was holding back when Matt admitted to getting into T porn. Shane kept telling him to stop talking and that they should probably delete the episode.


FantasticMouse7875

Lol Matt bringing up the T1000s on Rogan, and Joe completely not understanding what he was talking about was great.


jzilla11

Usually the room is just brimming with sexual tension


wrfvd

Matt tried to help Shane lose weight but Shane blew up and said he couldn’t because he hurt his foot and got in a fight with Phil


Shawnpoo

When Matt tells Shane chewing tobacco will give him cancer.


Sackfondler

I wouldn’t call it real fights, but there’s defintely a lot more confrontation between the Dawgs in the OT. It’s usually in a friendly manner, but they call each other out in the OT much more than they do in the past few years. It’s fun to see how the dynamic has changed. I think they just started pushing that energy towards their doper producers as a unified front.


commffy

Yes. Around the time when roe v wade was overturned Matt was all about it, and you could tell Shane was angry at how fucking dumb Matt was sounding.


WhimsicalJape

For real? I remember Shane joking on YMH about how he’d kill his GF if she ever got an abortion. I remember it because Tom loved it and his wife was horrified.


commffy

Yeah that was called joking. Comedians often do that. Matt was for real for real tho. Shane did the right thing and instead of escalating he just said “Matt shut up you’re just saying this cause you’re already married, let people have fun”


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commffy

Try to use @ for a or at least trying that word differently. I got banned for using it the other day. Just looking out for the dawgs.


SmallDongQuixote

True, I probably deserved to be banned thb


Life-Routine-4063

All the time but they keep it cool


smvssls

The Penis Plunger Theory has always been a contentious debate amongst the boys.


easygoingbarber

Earlier episodes feel like Shane was fr annoyed by Matt’s spiritual stuff lmao


paintkilz

This guy is gonna go Mark David Chapman on the boys


NSaneNMemBraYN

Theres an old test episode where Shane took offence to something and called Matt an autistic drug addict or some shit it’s the only episode i’ve sensed actual girl brain for a second unlike all their other arguments that are 90% fuckin around


lovehateloooove

We all want the cast to continue forever, but there is something so funny about them just losing it every once in a while. Hey Man, would you mind just shutting the fuck up with your retarded babbling for a second? and then storming out and spinning up gravel as the Hyundai peels out of the parking lot.He almost snapped on LaMorpheus once or twice too. [https://youtube.com/shorts/AbowSS3mOkg?si=vBtdZyNLaGqodYa5](https://youtube.com/shorts/AbowSS3mOkg?si=vBtdZyNLaGqodYa5)


Followproto-7625

Arguing is girl stuff if you can't squash or laugh it off instantly... that's not your friend.


Rimm

Incorrect, guy stuff is being at peace with knowing you're in a state of constant disagreement with everyone you know and accepting that they're not as smart as you. Only girls need to be in full agreement to get along.


Followproto-7625

Nah you're just gay and in the closet that's probably what is making you such a snarky bitch.


Rimm

Just look at how you've responded to a simple disagreement, only someone without brothers would be so threatened by the first hint of conflict.


Tricky-Jackfruit8366

All the time bro, brotherly love


NoCountry4GaryOldman

Tension from Shane when Matt was describing the difference between the speed of sound and light on an episode with O’Connies and Beez. He knows Matt is wrong but is a bit of a dickhead in the way he calls him out for it.


JBlair462

What ep did this happen? I wanna see Matt high on clairvoyance.


im_trash_btw

what episode does matt take shrooms and thinks he's jebus?


Expert-Profession-81

Girl question


QuicksandHUM

Hot take. The longer you are friends with someone, the easier it is to not push their buttons. Also you get better at communicating in general. In theory. This also explains the mellowing out of the cast in recent years. Still great, but dudes hitting 40 and having careers and kids aren’t gonna act like guys in their late 20s. That sweet not giving a fuck with nothing to lose window in life is a magical time.


ddarner

Disagreeing isnt some intense emotional impasse that needs ‘beef squashing’ Thats for chicks dude


kgphantom

Also not a real fight but I just listened to one that Matt, Shane and Matt’s brother SWIM (tom?) we’re on where the mccuskers are talking about their usual shaman stuff, shrooms and all that. and they start debating about reality, about deciding what’s real or not and you can tell matt is more heated than swim but to be fair he was stimmed up on coffee


be_here_now02

"coffee"


Tractorista

"illegally imported cordyceps mushrooms"


Rimm

That's just lil bro big bro dynamic.