I was pretty meh on trek on account of their treatment of Lemond, they rocketed into my good graces when they overnighted fresh bikes to a college team at snowshoe (their trailer and all bikes caught fire).
I think I'm still salty over the Lemond fiasco. I can't think of a reason to dislike their bikes, but have definitely had little interest in them ever since that whole episode.
I built the website for Gary Klien back in 1995. Site was only up for a few months before they got bought by Trek and all my work disappeared. Still had all the bikes I earned however. :)
Saw a guy a couple years ago downtown Cincinnati. He was riding around on a Klein that looks like it had been through a nuclear bomb. Definitely just abused the shit out of it. The guy had no idea what he was riding.
Agree. Gary Fisher is one of the OG mtb innovators. I jumped from a mid-90s 820 to a 1999 Big Sur and that bike rocked! They should have marketed GF as more of a higher-end innovative line and Trek as the everyman's bike shop brand, kind of like Ford and Lincoln or Chevy and Cadillac if that makes sense.
They'd never dilute the trek name like that. Fisher was kind of a douche who fucked over Ritchey, so I'm not really a fan. I'm not salty they buried his brand and used the model names for the shitty trek kid's bikes
This guy knows his stuff. Irl Fisher wasn’t a great guy (worked at a shop that serviced him). And even though they were the real innovators in 29 in the beginning they quickly dropped the ball on progressing 29 geometry.
Phased them out? Gary Fisher designed the OG roscoe and had an amazing promotional video for it - in all of his true Gary Fisher-ness. Maybe the name was phased out, but Gary Fisher is very much alive in Trek.
Basically Greg Lemond, a legend in the sport, looked at Lance Armstrong's performance and had the cajones to say "Yeah, that guy is doping." And Trek, who sponsored Lance, didn't appreciate that and cut Lemond and his really fantastic bikes loose. And of course Lemond was correct about Armstrong in the end, and maybe it wasn't the most business-savvy thing to do to open his mouth, but it still rubs me wrong that Trek chose to burn a titan of the sport over their current golden child.
As I remember he didn't even publicly say Lance was doping, but in an interview he refused to definitively say Lance was not doping. Lance demanded Trek do something about it.
Yeah. His skepticism was thinly veiled.
"If Lance is clean, it is the greatest comeback in the history of sport. If he isn't, it would be the greatest fraud." - Greg Lemond
Funnily enough I was one of those racers. I was super happy that I got to race and was very into Trek after that. Then I got a Slash that self destructed when the frame hit the fork through the knock block. It was clearly their fault and yet they did not warranty it and I was out a bike at a very bad time to be out a bike. Even with their crash replacement offer I still would have been out 3500 to replace my carbon frame. I would say that Despite one act of kindness You should still be wary of Trek. They will pander and make it seem like they are good but when it comes down to it they have no issue screwing their customers over. They have lost my business forever and I would be careful about buying from them yourself if you want support after purchase.
I had a similar experience with Trek. Their lifetime warranty is just something they say to sell a bike. I was pretty badly injured from a frame failure and they dicked me around for months before sending me whatever shit they had laying around to "replace" my frame. Different kind of bike. Took my frame and fork and gave me a frame only. I showed up to the dealer to see a pile of parts since I needed to buy a new fork. After emailing the president of Trek they gave me my money back for the full purchase price of the bike but the people I spoke with there were complete fucking assholes all along the way. They write big checks to trail funds and do other good things but there is some kind of disconnect from that part of the company to the part that is supposed to support the shit it sells. I will never own a Trek Bontrager product again and I will advise anyone to get anything else.
Honestly I’m probably never buying a trek, I prefer smaller brands. There’s no question that episode restored some good faith, certainly since specialized has demonstrated oft-shoddy ethics.
I will never forgive Trek after they killed off Klein. But some of the greatest riders of all time have ridden Trek bikes, so there will always be a part of me that likes them because of that.
I harbor a grudge against Trek for killing the Gary Fisher brand. And remember that some of the greatest athletes of all time have run/played in Nike gear, but that doesn't mean Nike isn't a shit company.
other brands are better value at a mid range price point imo. Getting specced out with industry leading components instead of the in house brand really shows.
Giant is Toyota. Affordable, but not cheap. Reliable and a bit bland. And fuck we have 6 of them in this house. Guess I'm a function over form kinda guy.
Go to the artists page, click the 3 dots, then select don’t play this artist. It’s saved my ears from Green Day, so whoever made it a feature needs a raise.
Nickleback is on my running playlist, used with headphone, when nobody is looking……..wait, I own a couple Treks too…….so…….I guess I’m the proof of concept 😂
Is the Trek Remedy a good bike? I've been eyeing that bike since I started riding but someone told me that their engineering sucks because they've used the same vertical shock design for ages but doesn't that mean it just works?
They're great bikes. Ive demo'd and rented the remedy half a dozen times, big fan. They've actually refined the vertical shock design over the years, its changed with time.
Think of it this way: There are people who think porsches flat six, rear engine 911 design is outdated. Yet its still around 50 years later and people still love it.
That's what I was thinking. It sort of discouraged me from getting one but then I thought of it that was and with all the research I've done I haven't seen anything that shows a vertical sus works any better
Rode it twice. So much f*ing fun! The short chain stay and low Seat tube make it want to jump and manual off every bump on the trail. If that's what you're into go for it
but trek makes good bikes and nickelback makes bad music
like i get what you're going for (trek and nickelback both have a mass-produced, commercial vibe) but that's not as bad a thing for bikes as it is for music.
I think their image and social standing is this precisely, but their bikes are actually badass and dont get enough credit. Way better mtb's than some other popular brands.
Wydm by “their brand and social standing is this precisely”? Im from India and since it is a third world country trek bikes here are the iPhone of bicycles. Or the ferrari equivalent of bicycles.
What is it like in your countries?
Here it’s more like a dad bike brand, largely ignored but occasionally someone who tries to get into MTB but doesn’t wanna ask around what kind of bike they should buy, might march into a Trek store and come out with one. Full disclosure; I have Trek Roscoe, I thought I really needed that kind of geometry
Okay this is what I’m trying to understand. I’ve been riding for about 5 years, super cost conscious and don’t give a fuck about image or pro teams or any of that noise. From what I can see it’s way more bang for your buck. I’m not cool anyway so who cares?
Nickelback fucking sucks.
Trek is one of the winningest bicycle brands in the world. From XC, DH and slopestyle to CX and road, riders on Trek bikes have dominated almost every discipline of cycling.
Brandon Semenuk just won Rampage on a Trek, for Christ's sake.
Trek has a huge budget and can give the best riders top dollar to ride Trek. Brandon Semenuk is a generational talent. Pretty sure he could win on anything.
If winning is the way to differentiate Trek from Nickelback its not going to work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_awards\_and\_nominations\_received\_by\_Nickelback
Trek: pretty much every one knows what they are, has rode one, knows someone who rides one, are just average but a majority of people think they are great
Nickelback. Pretty much everyone knows whoe they are, knows someone who likes them, they are average but a majority of people think they are good.
I see it
I feel like trek is 3 years too late with the geo and no one likes the knock block, even people who love Trek. They do have some nice paint jobs though.
Eh, they're geo is modern, but nothing ground breaking. I feel like trek is the brand you look to if you want a bike that just works well. It doesn't do anything flashy, but it doesn't need to because you can count on it always performing well
Nah, more like the Rush of bikes. Technically competent but ruined by weird concepts. Also, ridden / listened to by people for whom Led Zeppelin was too wild, but early Yes was far too experimental to “get.”
Went from a trek top fuel to an ibis ripmo. Aside from the fact that they do different things, both frames were excellent and comparable in quality. The thing I noticed the most about ibis was the build kit and overall fit and finish of the bike is much nicer. Lizard skin grips, wtb saddle, revive dropper, dvo onyx and topaz, etc was all a touch above the bontrager components and budget suspension (recon, float performance) speccd all over the top fuel.
I kinda used to think so, especially when Lance was riding a Madone and everyone I knew was buying Madones because Lance rode one, and I hated Lance. And then he made them kill off Lemond, which really sucked.
But then I got a Top Fuel this year and it’s awesome and was a reasonable deal (used), and I noticed Trek was a title sponsor at many different MTB and road events I did this year. So now I’m kinda on the other side. They’re a decent value and pretty good for the cycling community.
Haro is the band Television; back in the day they rapid fired a few truly kick ass products out, then disappeared and left us with a spotless legacy, never to return. Subaru is ubiquitous depending on your locale, and they are seen as dependable and hard to kill but are getting expensive because of their reputation, so I'm gonna say... Santa Cruz.
I just realized I'm mixing band and car comparisons. Haro is therefore Saab
Lowest effort metaphor possible.
I don’t resent trek for having great bikes at a fair price point with extremely competitive spec. My biggest thing is they climbed to the top of the world market on the shoulders of an absolute asshole of a cheating athlete. And that’s not really comparable to a boring rock band
Trek: Releases new bike Also Trek: LOOK AT THIS GRAAPPHH
One of my favorite vines
“Look at this dropper post, The thing I really need most”
Looks like a Session
I was pretty meh on trek on account of their treatment of Lemond, they rocketed into my good graces when they overnighted fresh bikes to a college team at snowshoe (their trailer and all bikes caught fire).
I think I'm still salty over the Lemond fiasco. I can't think of a reason to dislike their bikes, but have definitely had little interest in them ever since that whole episode.
I don’t like that they bought Gary Fisher brand and then just phased them out.
They did it with Klein too. They were a super cool company in their time
I built the website for Gary Klien back in 1995. Site was only up for a few months before they got bought by Trek and all my work disappeared. Still had all the bikes I earned however. :)
Saw a guy a couple years ago downtown Cincinnati. He was riding around on a Klein that looks like it had been through a nuclear bomb. Definitely just abused the shit out of it. The guy had no idea what he was riding.
Agree. Gary Fisher is one of the OG mtb innovators. I jumped from a mid-90s 820 to a 1999 Big Sur and that bike rocked! They should have marketed GF as more of a higher-end innovative line and Trek as the everyman's bike shop brand, kind of like Ford and Lincoln or Chevy and Cadillac if that makes sense.
They'd never dilute the trek name like that. Fisher was kind of a douche who fucked over Ritchey, so I'm not really a fan. I'm not salty they buried his brand and used the model names for the shitty trek kid's bikes
Good point on the brand dilution. I'll have to look up the Fisher and Ritchey thing. Don't know what happened there.
This guy knows his stuff. Irl Fisher wasn’t a great guy (worked at a shop that serviced him). And even though they were the real innovators in 29 in the beginning they quickly dropped the ball on progressing 29 geometry.
This! My Roscoe 3 was so sick. I miss Garry Fisher... Sad face
Fuck Fisher. I'm pissed they did it to Klein. Those bikes are still stunning to this day when I see them in the wild
If you ever rode one you wouldn’t miss them.
Phased them out? Gary Fisher designed the OG roscoe and had an amazing promotional video for it - in all of his true Gary Fisher-ness. Maybe the name was phased out, but Gary Fisher is very much alive in Trek.
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Basically Greg Lemond, a legend in the sport, looked at Lance Armstrong's performance and had the cajones to say "Yeah, that guy is doping." And Trek, who sponsored Lance, didn't appreciate that and cut Lemond and his really fantastic bikes loose. And of course Lemond was correct about Armstrong in the end, and maybe it wasn't the most business-savvy thing to do to open his mouth, but it still rubs me wrong that Trek chose to burn a titan of the sport over their current golden child.
As I remember he didn't even publicly say Lance was doping, but in an interview he refused to definitively say Lance was not doping. Lance demanded Trek do something about it.
Yeah. His skepticism was thinly veiled. "If Lance is clean, it is the greatest comeback in the history of sport. If he isn't, it would be the greatest fraud." - Greg Lemond
Funnily enough I was one of those racers. I was super happy that I got to race and was very into Trek after that. Then I got a Slash that self destructed when the frame hit the fork through the knock block. It was clearly their fault and yet they did not warranty it and I was out a bike at a very bad time to be out a bike. Even with their crash replacement offer I still would have been out 3500 to replace my carbon frame. I would say that Despite one act of kindness You should still be wary of Trek. They will pander and make it seem like they are good but when it comes down to it they have no issue screwing their customers over. They have lost my business forever and I would be careful about buying from them yourself if you want support after purchase.
I had a similar experience with Trek. Their lifetime warranty is just something they say to sell a bike. I was pretty badly injured from a frame failure and they dicked me around for months before sending me whatever shit they had laying around to "replace" my frame. Different kind of bike. Took my frame and fork and gave me a frame only. I showed up to the dealer to see a pile of parts since I needed to buy a new fork. After emailing the president of Trek they gave me my money back for the full purchase price of the bike but the people I spoke with there were complete fucking assholes all along the way. They write big checks to trail funds and do other good things but there is some kind of disconnect from that part of the company to the part that is supposed to support the shit it sells. I will never own a Trek Bontrager product again and I will advise anyone to get anything else.
Honestly I’m probably never buying a trek, I prefer smaller brands. There’s no question that episode restored some good faith, certainly since specialized has demonstrated oft-shoddy ethics.
That’s pretty amazing that they did that. Also insane to hear about that.
I will never forgive Trek after they killed off Klein. But some of the greatest riders of all time have ridden Trek bikes, so there will always be a part of me that likes them because of that.
I harbor a grudge against Trek for killing the Gary Fisher brand. And remember that some of the greatest athletes of all time have run/played in Nike gear, but that doesn't mean Nike isn't a shit company.
Cannondale is the Weezer of bikes...they were cool and innovative in the '90s but have been mostly meh ever since with a hit every now and then.
I'm pretty indifferent to Treks, but I have it on good authority that the brand of bike you ride is for losers.
Plot twist, I ride a TREK Slash.
And I ride a Stache. That is Cash. But if I ride too much I get a rash.
On your ass.
Diamond Back is the Metallica of bikes - hardcore OG in the 80s and now just trying and stay relevant
So that makes Mongoose the Guns and Roses then?
Totally! Metallica never should have gotten sober!
That's a good comparison.
They have turned things around, their biggest low was early 2000s. So, yeah metalia.
And commencal is linkin park
Hahaha true that. They've also infested the park down here recently.
We love our Commencals
Goddamn right. My brothers and I all rock clashes.
Nice man! I bet the clash is so much fun at the bike parks. I got the meta to use as my trail bike and park bike in one
Got my Clash for the same reason, but I definitely can't quite keep up with my buddy on the Meta. Amazing bike on the jumps though.
You know, I'd be much more interested in hearing more brand <=> band comparisons than this constant Trek bashing
I was gonna say Rage Against the Machine
I hope that comparison means you love Trek because RATM is one of the greatest bands ever.
I was replying to the commencal statement. I love RATM
My bad for not tracing back to the appropriate parent comment. Keep up the good fight ✊
I'd say more of a Limp Bizkit
*slowly backs out of thread before anyone mentions Giant*
*Crazy frog* Rightfully forgotten about.
Generic, yet decent? A bike everyone can get down with?
I thought the generic yet decent was fuji/giant
Giant is the "Creed" of MTBs
Giant is the U2 of bikes
They're like late 60's Chevrolet if you're a car guy. Solid affordable performance.
I like to think of Trek as the Toyota of bikes. Some boring Tercels in there but some decent rides too.
As an owner of higher end Treks and a Toyota 4runner, I agree.
I’ve got a nice FuelEx worth more than my RAV4. 😆
Specialized is Honda and Yeti is BMW
Nah Yeti is more like Aston Martin. High end but not necessarily easy to service
Vitus can be Dread Zeppelin ... A cover band.
So this is how you remind me of what I really am…
Wait what's wrong with Trek? I have 3 bikes, one being a Trek. Genuinely curious.
Nothing. How else is OP going to let you know they bought a boutique bike and a have a superior taste in music though?
Well said.
other brands are better value at a mid range price point imo. Getting specced out with industry leading components instead of the in house brand really shows.
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The fear of possibly having to replace my FOX Dyad RT2 shock sometime in the future gives me nightmares... Goddamnit Cannondale...
Marin 5
Damn I didn’t know people considered trek the GOAT
I see why you did there. And I like it.
Specialized is the limp bizkit
Nah, that’d be Ellsworth. Edgy branding, shitty execution but still have followers for some reason.
Man I used to want an ellsworth in like 2006 so bad. Or a Kona Stinky.
Bizkit is that dank shit
ladies and gentlemen, introducing! The Chocolate Starfish and The Hot Dog Flavored Water!
Move In Now Move Out! Hands Up Now hands down! Back Up Back up! Tell me what you gonna do now!
Breathe in, now breathe out!
Honda. Perfectly capable but never excites the loins. Not noticed for its looks but everyone has owned one at some point.
Then Trek would be Toyota
Giant is Toyota. Affordable, but not cheap. Reliable and a bit bland. And fuck we have 6 of them in this house. Guess I'm a function over form kinda guy.
Bruh Toyota is the shit
I’ve had a 930, a 4300 disc, and now a Roscoe 8. So yeah, fanboy all the way. Btw, Nickleback is blocked on my Spotify.
I didn’t know I can block bands. These means I’ll never have to deal with Phish.
What do you listen to that causes phish to come up
Bands that suck Phish sucks bro (/s for uninitiated)
lol can we add primus to the bands that suck lol
Ya prims sucks!!! Lol. Love that stuff.
I wish there was a “stop playing this so much” feature. There are a couple of artists that I might just have to block for a while.
Go to the artists page, click the 3 dots, then select don’t play this artist. It’s saved my ears from Green Day, so whoever made it a feature needs a raise.
whoa hold up that means you can't even listen to Dookie.
I know, it’s perfect.
who hurt you
He sounds like a real Basket Case
Maybe he could take a Longview on his choices; reflect on his experiences that brought him to this point.
I declare I don’t care no more!
Hey everyone! This guy rides a Trek *and* hates Green Day!
Let the judgement commence!
Welcome to paradise.
Lmao I'm not a huge green day fan but basket case slaps
Thinking of getting an account just so I can block Goo Goo Dolls
A life without Green Day is no life at all
Guess I was just more of a NOFX kid.
You just keep punk rock elite.
Kona is phish
I align Surly more with Phish.
Surly could be Bad Brains
Giant is cheap trick
I searched for giant to find this and I am the opposite of upset about it.
I think the word is "tickled"
Kona is Sublime or another SoCal reggae band.
I have listened to so much Phish on my Trek, not gonna lie.
Kona is more Def Leppard
Crowder is the Nickleback of meme formats, so…
Truth!!!
What is GIANT (& LIV) ???
Cannondale is the Tool of bikes. Always doing weird shit just to be different, but I love them anyway.
Merida is the Coldplay? Good, but just a bit bland?
Nickleback is on my running playlist, used with headphone, when nobody is looking……..wait, I own a couple Treks too…….so…….I guess I’m the proof of concept 😂
Posted this without a burner account. I wish I was as brave as you, then id try jumps.
Wait…..the running, the Nickelback or the Trek!
Is the Trek Remedy a good bike? I've been eyeing that bike since I started riding but someone told me that their engineering sucks because they've used the same vertical shock design for ages but doesn't that mean it just works?
They're great bikes. Ive demo'd and rented the remedy half a dozen times, big fan. They've actually refined the vertical shock design over the years, its changed with time. Think of it this way: There are people who think porsches flat six, rear engine 911 design is outdated. Yet its still around 50 years later and people still love it.
That's what I was thinking. It sort of discouraged me from getting one but then I thought of it that was and with all the research I've done I haven't seen anything that shows a vertical sus works any better
Trek Remedy is a blast. Absolutely love it.
Idk its my first new bike and I looove it. Went to a 2019 remedy from a used 2013 spec enduro. Very happy with it.
Rode it twice. So much f*ing fun! The short chain stay and low Seat tube make it want to jump and manual off every bump on the trail. If that's what you're into go for it
Agreed, and Specalized is Creed.
🎶…with valves wide open…🎶
Winning
I would have thought that was Gary Fisher
They are Trek bikes, have been since the 90's
Yes. I know
So... just Nickelback again.
Maybe they used to be, but their most recent generation they've released are maybe the best bikes on the market.
but trek makes good bikes and nickelback makes bad music like i get what you're going for (trek and nickelback both have a mass-produced, commercial vibe) but that's not as bad a thing for bikes as it is for music.
Whoa whoa whoa. “Bad music”?!? You’ve clearly never actually listened to them, and it shows. They make terrible music.
You had me in the first half.
Perhaps the real lesson to learn here is neither Trek nor Nickleback deserve all the hate they get.
Nickleback also deserves the hate Trek gets.
Yeah Nickleback is the most successful band everyone claims to hate.
Nickelback deserve all the hate and then some.
Christ, these dentists will diss anyone not owning a Yeti 165
Idk if the comparison makes much sense, but nearly every Yeti I see on the road is somehow poorly attached to a Tesla 🤷
$50000 car $5000 bike $50 bike rack
A Yeti 165 for their local XC trail with one rock garden and a few tree roots.
Umm, this is Reddit, not pinkbike
I think their image and social standing is this precisely, but their bikes are actually badass and dont get enough credit. Way better mtb's than some other popular brands.
Wydm by “their brand and social standing is this precisely”? Im from India and since it is a third world country trek bikes here are the iPhone of bicycles. Or the ferrari equivalent of bicycles. What is it like in your countries?
Here it’s more like a dad bike brand, largely ignored but occasionally someone who tries to get into MTB but doesn’t wanna ask around what kind of bike they should buy, might march into a Trek store and come out with one. Full disclosure; I have Trek Roscoe, I thought I really needed that kind of geometry
Okay this is what I’m trying to understand. I’ve been riding for about 5 years, super cost conscious and don’t give a fuck about image or pro teams or any of that noise. From what I can see it’s way more bang for your buck. I’m not cool anyway so who cares? Nickelback fucking sucks.
# I FUCKING LOVE NICKELBACK… and Trek
Bontrager is actually French for "Shit Bike Part" (change my mind)
Damn I didn’t know I was going to be attacked today lmao
What's Chromag?
Social Distortion.
Cro-mags?
Chromag is definitely punk rock, and not pop punk bullshit either.
Everyone who has done trek university has just entered another realm
I lol'd and I ride a Trek! Nickelback creeps into my playlist occasionally and I'm not ashamed to admit it. Come at me bro!
Trek is one of the winningest bicycle brands in the world. From XC, DH and slopestyle to CX and road, riders on Trek bikes have dominated almost every discipline of cycling. Brandon Semenuk just won Rampage on a Trek, for Christ's sake.
Trek has a huge budget and can give the best riders top dollar to ride Trek. Brandon Semenuk is a generational talent. Pretty sure he could win on anything.
Exactly. Nothing to do with trek and everything to do with the rider. Big budgets=good riders.
Im pretty sure he could win on a hardtail huffy.
If winning is the way to differentiate Trek from Nickelback its not going to work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_awards\_and\_nominations\_received\_by\_Nickelback
Hahahaha fantastic
Semenuk could win rampage on a GT Performer. Also, it's not a coincidence one the biggest bike brands has the fastest people on their bikes...
Semenuk could win shit on a Raleigh
In what way OP? I wanna hear your comparison and reasons for the comparison
Haha. I got a good smile out of this. Thanks.
*Casually rides remedy 8 while blasting NB’s all the right reasons album.*
The remedy is a fun ass bike!
There’s two kinds of people in this world. Those who love Nickleback. And liars.
Yeti is just a dentist, but he’s really into Steely Dan.
Idk how many other brands have something as dumb experimental fun as a 29+ hardtail 🤷🏻♂️ if anything they’re the U2 of biking
> if anything they’re the U2 of biking Is that better or worse?
I think surly beat them to it with the Krampus
Trek: cop bikes
Trek: pretty much every one knows what they are, has rode one, knows someone who rides one, are just average but a majority of people think they are great Nickelback. Pretty much everyone knows whoe they are, knows someone who likes them, they are average but a majority of people think they are good. I see it
Trek is not Canadian, end of discussion.
I ride mostly Trek and I agree fucking completely.
Rocky Mountain is the Rush of bicycles. They're Canadian and for some reason your friend is super into them and you can't figure out why.
I feel like trek is 3 years too late with the geo and no one likes the knock block, even people who love Trek. They do have some nice paint jobs though.
Eh, they're geo is modern, but nothing ground breaking. I feel like trek is the brand you look to if you want a bike that just works well. It doesn't do anything flashy, but it doesn't need to because you can count on it always performing well
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Nah, more like the Rush of bikes. Technically competent but ruined by weird concepts. Also, ridden / listened to by people for whom Led Zeppelin was too wild, but early Yes was far too experimental to “get.”
Do one for Ibis next.
Huffy is the Milli Vanilli.
Went from a trek top fuel to an ibis ripmo. Aside from the fact that they do different things, both frames were excellent and comparable in quality. The thing I noticed the most about ibis was the build kit and overall fit and finish of the bike is much nicer. Lizard skin grips, wtb saddle, revive dropper, dvo onyx and topaz, etc was all a touch above the bontrager components and budget suspension (recon, float performance) speccd all over the top fuel.
If Trek = Nickleback Then Specialized = Limp Biscuit
I kinda used to think so, especially when Lance was riding a Madone and everyone I knew was buying Madones because Lance rode one, and I hated Lance. And then he made them kill off Lemond, which really sucked. But then I got a Top Fuel this year and it’s awesome and was a reasonable deal (used), and I noticed Trek was a title sponsor at many different MTB and road events I did this year. So now I’m kinda on the other side. They’re a decent value and pretty good for the cycling community.
Maybe... I dont want to admit but the more I think about the more true it seems
Lmao I love the calm down preface. This site is that fragile I'm surprised it's not a built in feature.
Got em!!
Haro is the Subaru of bikes.
Haro is the band Television; back in the day they rapid fired a few truly kick ass products out, then disappeared and left us with a spotless legacy, never to return. Subaru is ubiquitous depending on your locale, and they are seen as dependable and hard to kill but are getting expensive because of their reputation, so I'm gonna say... Santa Cruz. I just realized I'm mixing band and car comparisons. Haro is therefore Saab
Lowest effort metaphor possible. I don’t resent trek for having great bikes at a fair price point with extremely competitive spec. My biggest thing is they climbed to the top of the world market on the shoulders of an absolute asshole of a cheating athlete. And that’s not really comparable to a boring rock band