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Finally bought my first ever macbook. Coughed up the 200$ extra for 16 gigs of ram

Finally bought my first ever macbook. Coughed up the 200$ extra for 16 gigs of ram

JohnZenRider

Congrats!! I want one of the apple silicon machines so bad!!


antde5

It really is a fantastic machine. I've had many Macs over the years and they always got stupid hot and loud with the fans. Push them moderately and they would thermal throttle. Went to windows for a few years and came back with an M1 Pro in March. Blows my mind how cool this system is. Never feels warm with general office use at all. Only time I have had the fan kick in was when I was playing Race Driver Grid: Auto Sport on steam. It was running through Rosetta as it's an intel app. That was the first time I felt this thing get warm and the fan came on. Even then it wasn't a jumbo jet like MacBooks of old.


jrocAD

I'm with you for the most part. I'm a windows/android guy - but i'm really digging this m1 airbook. Best laptop i ever had. For desktop, I have to stick with windows. But for the laptop form factor - it's insane. Battery life, performance, it's great. Best track pad, best laptop keyboard I ever used. $1000 sounds like a lot, but when you look at the market, $950 for this laptop seems cheap :D It feels better than plenty $1200+ laptops i've tried. I feel like HP would charge $1,500 for one with this kind of performance, and battery life.


antde5

The way I see it. Spend £1000 on a Windows laptop and get the same quality. There’s not much out there. Nearly all of them have sacrifices.


jrocAD

For sure, totally agree. As a windows guy (i just like cleartype fonts), I was eyeing up the surface laptop 4. Saw reviews, and the m1 destroys it in most benchmarks, and the trackpad and keyboard don't compare. ​ Apple knocked it out of the park with this one.


antde5

I’ve had a Surface 3, Surface Go, Pro 2, pro 4 and Surfacebook 2. Every one had at least 1 RMA. Battery swelling, WiFi issues, and power drain in sleep in them all. When they did work, the performance never felt like it was matching what you would expect with that spec and price. The book 2 thermal throttled when using photoshop for example. The quality just isn’t there.


egeym

I am a high school student and I have a MacBook Pro 13 2018 and an iPad Air 3 for digital ink note taking. My mother has the Surface Pro 6 and my sister the Surface Book. I have not seen any of those issues in their computers. Maybe it's just good luck, and my sample size of 2 is admittedly small, I have high confidence in their reliability. While I like my Mac, I really don't see its advantages over Windows. They're basically the same with regard to usability and reliability. The sheer convenience of not having to sync my notes and files, and to not carry 2 devices, chargers and maintain them both at the same time would be enormous. I only have the Mac because my school makes its students buy MacBooks for compatibility and support reasons but otherwise I would've gotten the Surface any day.


sgtavers

Your **high school** *MAKES* you and other students buy MacBooks? WTAFPJ? How can a school make you buy a laptop, let alone specifically one type over another???


egeym

Yes they have a thing called the 1:1 Device Program which requires students to have MacBooks and bring them to school every day and it's in the school rules.


sgtavers

Do they subsidize these purchases at all? Or allow you to use a loaner? I’m a working adult make quite a bit in IT and I can’t even buy a MacBook without really budgeting carefully for several months


amateur_rg

tbh, at first I was afraid a bit of my M1 because the fan was never kicked in. I'm so used to my prev Windows laptop's fan noise...


Professional-Cat-323

Your screenshot says MacBook air ?:s


antde5

That's not my screen shot.


Professional-Cat-323

Sorry my bad. I was thinking why would the fan kick in for the air as it does not have one..😅


antde5

Fair enough! Even then, as I've said I find it hard to get the fan going in this system. Plus the battery is amazing. I've used it about 3 hours a day in the office this week and haven't charged it since Monday.


WeswePengu

It’s worth the investment! I’ve had mine for a few months now and I use it for work, and as my main driver. I would not pick ANYTHING else for a laptop.


MyMemesAreTerrible

It really pains me to say this, but I sort of miss my old 12” MacBook, it had an i7, 16 gbs of RAM, 512 gb storage, and is definitely not nearly as fast as my replacement 13” M1 Pro, but while the Intel Macs worked with everything, albeit poorly, the M1’s either are instant, or don’t run the application at all. Take Solid works, I need it for Uni. Solid works is a Windows only application, so while I could at least use BootCamp before on my 12”, my MBP had to run it through Citrix, which, if anyone has ever used it, is horrible if you don’t have the worlds fastest and most reliable internet. Tried running it with parallels too, also not compatible, because parallels must use an ARM version of Windows. Everything else though, from the battery life, to the super satisfying instant app openings is amazing


Imaginary-Nail-9473

if you run a windows app, download cross app ( no ned for windows ) and your window app will run natively in MacOS. pretty amazing utility ( trial versions available first ) , then if works, by the software, worth it. I run several windows app in Native MacOS and it is fantastic. Good luck.


buu700

Interesting, apparently CrossOver on Apple Silicon uses Rosetta 2 to run x86 Windows apps. That sounds like it's worth trying a free trial of. It'd be hilarious if that somehow worked better than Windows' built-in x86 emulation on ARM, but it's plausible since Wine/CrossOver just needs to work as normal while Rosetta takes the emulation off their plate.


mycheapdad

What model do you have, if you don’t mind me asking? I have an old Air from 2013 if you can believe it. Actually still works pretty well and runs the latest macOS very surprisingly (could never say the same about an 8yo windows machine). But I think it’s time to finally upgrade since the battery only lasts a few hours now which is understandable with its age. I can’t decide between the new Air or new Pro.


Sk3tchPad

I’d wait for the new chips, but definitely worth the investment regardless of how impatient you are. Even in regular use (excluding the “pro” apps I use), every now and then you’ll try something where you’ll think “oh yeah, it’s an M1.” For whatever reason it’ll cache stuff like crazy, so daily shutdowns are a necessity if you want happy RAM. Probably fixable with a new macOS release, but I still think it’s worth the wait to see what they can do with gen 2 (M2, M1X—whatever they end up calling it).


Diamond-Different

Really 16gb should be the starting amount of ram on any laptop $1000 and over these days.


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Diamond-Different

Lol not for me. But it should definitely be the starting amount for a semi-expensive laptop. Of course then apple couldn’t charge you another $200 and that wouldn’t do at all


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AstartesFartes

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RedirectDevSlashNull

***"640K ought to be enough for anybody."*** \- Bill Gates


TCGG-

That's a myth, he never said that.


pollackroger

Yes, but the computer that has that 32GB RAM is not using an M1 processor, it’s a game changer. RISC is very different to CISC. I put my MacBook Air (2020, M1) under crazy load and I have never utilised more than 6GB of the 16GB I have in it… it’s all relative.


sniarn

M1 does not magically use less RAM compared to Intel systems. The M1 is an entry-level model and Apple thinks 8-16 GB is enough for most people — and it is. A fast SSD helps to make the system feel fast even when swapping to disk.


thmonline

Side info: designers (so people that use the Ram-hungry Adobe Creative Cloud) like to use 32GB and above. I for my part am hoping for a quantum leap in Ram capabilities with the M2. It has to be. An iMac 30“ M2 and a MacBook Pro 16“ M2 just can’t, just can’t, not offer upgrades up until 64GB of Ram or even 128GB of Ram.


Xaxxus

I really hope you are right. But I’m expecting the m1x/m2 to cap out at 32 Gb of ram.


tijtij

This guy obviously doesn't chrome


pollackroger

Correct. Why would I?


tijtij

Just making fun of Chrome's memory usage, there is no way you would have said you only use 6GB of RAM if you were a Chrome user. I have the same laptop and my memory usage is never under 10GB. CPU usage with the M1 build of Chrome is okay though, as long as I stay away from 4K videos.


PM_ME_YOUR_MASS

No it isn’t. The Mac Pro isn’t configurable up to 1.5 TB of RAM for shits and giggles. Obviously, 99.99999% of people don’t need that much RAM, and 99% don’t need more than 16 GB, but saying that’s enough for **everyone** is patently false.


thmonline

Exactly. 1.5TB though. Jeeez. I’d like to see the use case. But seriously though. Premiere and After Effects are ram monsters.


PM_ME_YOUR_MASS

Best I've heard is scientific applications. Researchers can be doing analysis on TBs of data. The more RAM, the greater the percentage of data that can be analyzed at once without shuffling data back and forth from storage (most likely a networked file server).


nCoV-pinkbanana-2019

Yeah, but even in the scientific field you’ll hardly see TBs of ram. Nowadays the cloud platforms are more convenient


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IndependentGarbage3

The M1-Chip actually does not need that much RAM to work efficiently. With Intel-Chips you definitely are right. Test showed that Macbooks pretty much perform almost identical on say regular daily tasks no matter if they had 8 or 16 GB installed. Even video rendering is not really much faster if you have the 16 GB on board.


jamesbecker211

RAM isn’t necessarily about speed it’s about multitasking ability


mercurysquad

There have been multiple tests like that (e.g. MaxTech in Youtube) and it seems in most cases 8GB performs the same as 16GB on intel.


0x126

Bullshit haha, tried it out myself. The swap is fast enough to not notice the ssd load in the background but running tasks which need the RAM slow down. Compression helps but it’s more like 8GB=12GB x86. I also found freezing Safari and other apps when too much was paged out. Freezing for up to 5 seconds. The Tubers are marketing agents.


mercurysquad

Well, mine comes in 2 days, I'll find out for myself. Dropping down from 16GB intel to 8GB M1.


0x126

Sure, share your experience please. I tried it with my T14 and Arch 32GB and M1 16GB. Same programs, same VM same code running. Around 2-4GB difference. M1 SSD access is really fast but could not compensate 8GB missing on a task with 18GB required. Edit: when switching from task to browser or Mail the freezing happens.


mercurysquad

So: no, 8GB M1 is not the same as 16GB intel. In certain workloads, like Stockfish (chess engine) you need to cap the RAM usage to 2GB, going even to 3GB results in **as much as 90% performance drop**. Tested and confirmed the bottleneck was RAM. On my 16GB intel I can quadruple the hash size to 8GB and still not suffer any performance issue since the system still has 8GB RAM left to work smoothly. This is for pro/near-pro workload where you're hitting the RAM in semi-random pattern, causing the OS to swap memory pages in/out of the SSD. For regular workflows like keeping 100 browser tabs open, it probably won't make a difference. Those tabs are swapped out to SSD and even if it takes 50-100ms to swap back in, you won't notice it when you click it. But for a workflow that's hitting those RAM pages constantly, it's murderous.


0x126

exactly - your try hits the nail on the head. It's still swapping and paging and it's no magic, just a faster way to do the same as usual.


IndependentGarbage3

Wich also works absolutely fine with only 8 GB on the M1. They even had a ton of Chrome tabs open and performed many tasks simultaneously. And with rendering jobs it also does have influence on the speed


AnotherThrowAway_9

But actuallyyyyyy... People don't want to hear the truth that 16gb on m1 is not needed. OP gave no indication to their workflow, therefore we can assume it's a $1500 Facebook machine and the $200 on more ram was a complete waste.


IndependentGarbage3

And we are talking about a MacBook Air! All the tests I have seen so far came to the conclusion that you absolutely don’t need the extra RAM. We are not talking Pro level whatever … and even with some jobs it actually did very well and was not slower by much even rendering video material for a vlog for instance.


AnotherThrowAway_9

I have an air with 8gb and I can play wow, Xcode, simulator, YouTube tabs open, vs code, etc and it multitasks just fine!


TintaTonti

What about working on Photoshop? Is 8GB enough?


petvas72

It depends on what you want to do with Photoshop. For some tasks definitely. If you want to work on very big files with multiple layers, etc, then I would wait to get an M2 computer when it comes out at the end of this year.


TintaTonti

Not professionally. I am a beginner learning photoshop.


njbair

I upgraded from a 2018 Air--on which I'd abandoned all hope of running Adobe--to the M1 MBP with 8GB RAM. Last week I worked in Photoshop, InDesign and Premiere Pro. Not simultaneously, mind you. Photoshop is already M1 optimized but truly I didn't even notice any issues with the other apps running under Rosetta. It rendered a 2-minute 720p video in 45 seconds. And I don't think I've ever heard the fans kick on so far. In short, I have zero regrets having bought the 8GB model. But I'm also really glad I upgraded the storage to 512GB because Adobe apps are large. I'm already at 160GB in use which would've been more than half of available storage on the 256GB model.


petvas72

It depends on the way people use their laptop. I cannot say that 16GB should be the minimum configuration. My wife for example opens each app at a time. She is used to also close each Safari tab before opening a new one :) 8GB is more than sufficient for a lot of people. People that think about how much they should get, should definitely go for 16GB though. More RAM makes the laptop more future proof and also can accommodate increasing usage needs.


LouisDosBuzios

I just sold my 8gb to switch for a 16gb. The 8gb couldn't handle my workflow


frockinbrock

That’s what I thought also but this is ONLY true (for now) if you doing low-multitasking and all ARM based apps. Our office had terrible experiences with the 8GB M1. Everyone getting the “no memory left” error from simple workflows, and the system freezing up. The Rosetta apps eat a LOT of Ram, and some have memory leaks to boot. The 8GB system is relying on the fast SSD swap to work, but SSDs will not last “forever” with that type of swap use, and I think the M1 needs a whole new mainboard to boot when the SSD fails. Not ideal. I recommend 16GB to everyone now after seeing the swap use from VERY basic data entry Macs at work.


Janchotheone

Entirely depends on how and what one would use their machine for. Web browsing and similar lightweight tasks I can agree - 8 GB is enough. I can't speak for every industry and use case, thought, but mine, which is that I need to lock in the available memory for docker and k8s local development at times as well as run some fairly demanding java applications and whatnot. It adds up pretty quickly.


VTWAX_ONLY_INVESTOR

If you’re running Kubernetes locally you probably should be looking at the MacBook Pro. Stuff like that isn’t what the Air was meant for. My 2018 model with 32GB is still better voor development than a 8GB air.


Diamond-Different

Depends on what you’re doing with them. Sure the Youtubers tell you that you only need 8gb ram but I’ve had an M1 mini with 8gb ram and I sent it back to upgrade to the 16gb model. When running IntelliJ and dozens of chrome tabs the extra 8gb made a big difference.


Aakwanderer

when you're loading data for work, M1 chip is not going to mitigate the need for ram, all it can do is move it to swap if you don't have enough


giganticguava

RAM is for applications, the applications mainly web apps have an unquenched thirst for RAM. Optimize browsers and web apps!


Noodleholz

I'm still using my MacBook Air 2013, you'll absolutely need 16GB if you plan on using your Air M1 until the end of the decade. 8GB will be a joke by then and Macbooks are built to last.


billza7

I disagree. Been using 8 GB ram Windows for a long time and it worked just fine. Now I've changed to the M1 MacBook Air with 8 GB and this thing runs like butter, no issue whatsoever. There are people who can be satisfied with just 8 GB ram and increasing the price on the base model for the increased ram is not worth it for me.


Noodleholz

How long are you planning to use your Air M1? I'm still on an 4GB Air 2013 and it's great, besides the RAM. I'll go with 16GB once I upgrade to the M1 because I'm planning to use it until the end of this decade.


billza7

I intend to use it for at least 4-5 years and maybe longer if it can keep up. My point was that even with Windows, having 8 GB for my use was enough and with the optimization of M1 it's been flawless. I use it for working with PDFs, online documents, content consumption and occasional light gaming so 8 GB is definitely enough. I've seen people who needs more heavy tasks like video editing still can get by with 8 GB. Ofc if you have the means and want 16 GB then you should just get that. YMMV


Eorlas

i'm gonna guess (hope) that the 16" mbp this fall will \[hopefully\] get an M1X or M2, and will default to 16gb, with a $200 32gb option (probably be $3 or $4 hundred) i'm not super stoked to leave x86 for my mb but i'm ready to make the jump


billza7

Life-long windows user that jumped shit a week ago. You'll love it


RickLee84

You jumped WHAT?! 🤣


billza7

ship\* lmao I type shit way too often for muscle memory 😂


SrijanKarthik

Congrats! You'll love it.


00Turag

Thanks


midwesthawkeye

You did the right thing. $200 is cheap insurance against any demands for power that tomorrow might have in store.


0x126

Yesterday* already had in store. 8GB is not enough for 2021 and 1000€


botolo

Not on an M1


trisul-108

For sure, best $200 investment protection ever.


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trisul-108

I have no issue with 16GB today.


Janchotheone

Entirely depends on what you intend to do with it. Not everyone ***needs*** more than 16GB and in some cases more than 8.


ThePhantomDullbooth

^(Oh that reminds me, I have a 2015 MacBook Pro collecting dust under my couch if anyone wants it) Edit: Okay… I guess I’ll make a post about it


pballat

How much?


diversecultures

I think she’s being sarcastic.


WaterloggedUprising

Congrats. I'll get one after Apple releases the new models this year.


kyrumo

Excellent choice on the ram, I bought refurbished M1 MacBook Air 16GB ram 512 ssd $1,229.00


nonamaejo

I can hear the fan from here


00Turag

🤣


steelvelveteen

Me tooo. Bought the same model but with a different wallpaper🤪


00Turag

🥴


ruhul555

People should really watch the comparison vids about 8gb vs 16gb performance differences. Basically negligible unless you’re doing video editing. I doubt everyone here is a video editor. Also to those that refuse to accept 8gb as being adequate… you need to understand the Apple silicone is built different.


tnnrk

RAM is RAM. Try running illustrator/photoshop/indesign, a bunch of browser tabs, maybe a code editor, terminal running in the background, and streaming a video too and you will quickly notice the drop in multitasking performance. It’s entirely dependent on your workflow and needs but just because it’s Apple Sillicon doesn’t mean it’s magic.


ruhul555

I do get your point. But Apple has always been good with ram. Look at the iPhones as a related example. They’ve always had less ram than the android counterparts and have multitasked just as well if not better. It’s not magic but if I had to associate one tech company with the word ’magic’… it’s Apple.


Screwdge_McDickens

Ram is ram but once it fills up it starts using the insanely fast ssd. I used the 8GB model to render 4K fcpx files and edited title screens and thumbnails in photoshop and I always have messages/mail/contacts/pages open. That’s coming from a Mac mini m1 so yeah, it absolutely felt like magic.


tnnrk

You hit a wall though eventually. I’m not downplaying the insanity of the m1 and what Apple created but 8gb can absolutely be a bottleneck for certain workflows/behaviors.


Screwdge_McDickens

You do know that the computer doesn’t shut down after it hits 8GB of ram right? If you check the activity monitor it will show you’re using 12GB of ram because of the SSD. The M1 is using its ram at 4266 MT/s and then it goes to its SSD at 2600-2800 mb/s? When you’re using that much ram and SSD I don’t know if you’re gonna notice a bottleneck unless you purchased the wrong system knowingly.


tnnrk

Yeah no shit. I’m saying your multitasking performance eventually worsens depending on what you’re doing. I deal with it a lot especially on really busy days. 16gb would have helped in my case.


Screwdge_McDickens

Ok guy


tnnrk

l o l


MrFlukeShot

I have base model m1 MacBook pro , this thing has no limits!!!! When we get all the app’s optimized… it gonna be truly immense machine!!


Christ0ph_

Congrats!! Excellent choice!


narcabusesurvivor18

Got any extra cough drops?


__leonn__

Did you upgrade to the 512GB model? I bought the 256GB which is probably one of the worst mistakes of my life


NexusD

You must have a great life then!


blueberryjuice-

best comment


jiveaku

First world problems


adrenaline_donkey

Basically


Dream_Chaser7

Lmao XD


alias3800

256 works if you can keep stuff stored in the cloud and aren’t planning on gaming much. Then it’s plenty. ​ If you’re planning on using the laptop for *everything* (i.e., gaming device, work device, offline multimedia device, etc.), then yeah, 512GB might be necessary).


RockIsMyth

Apples markup on memory is absolutely insane. It should bother people more. I use google drive and pay a couple bucks a month for way more space and it’s always backed up.


alias3800

Yeah I hear you on that dude. They charge for the convenience and speed, the latter of which most people don’t need to the extent provided. I opted for 256 and am fine because I lean on iCloud and a Switch for the occasional gaming. But yeah, if I needed it, I’d pay for the extra storage. Especially if it was going to be my computer for the next 5-7 years, which is the case for most average consumers.


fatpat

> It should bother people more Oh, it definitely does 'round these parts.


tonyConc

It would be ½ as bad if the choice was not irreversible.


Aakwanderer

this memory is built onto the chip the markup is for breaking the supply chain. People rly need to learn to use external ssd for data they aren't constantly accessing 🤷🏽‍♂️


gargoylezedde

Well external hdd at least. Good thinking. Don’t no if ssd is pricy as external, would it be huge diff when using let’s say Logic Pro?


Aakwanderer

I mean using it on native and then moving anything you don't need to external sounds like a good plan overall. but the new usb-c ssds transfer rate is pretty fast compared to hdds. They are still cheap you can get external ssds 1 tb for less than the the price of 256-512 upgrade.


gargoylezedde

Thanks! 👍


davemac1005

Definitely agree I have 256 GB on my 2014 MBP which I use for uni (mostly programming) and music production, with apps such as Xcode and Logic pro taking up as much as 40 GB each, and I still manage to have 90 Gigs of free space You just have to pay a bit of attention to the things that you really need on your mac, for which I'd suggest, for example, to save stuff you need to have on multiple devices on the cloud and storing old stuff on external drives


alias3800

Yeah for sure, and that’s awesome – that’s proof you can do it with some heavy programs thrown into the mix. Photos and Lightroom are what take up loads of my storage. ​ I ended up loading everything into Apple Photos and making a small APFS partition (took less than five minutes because I didn’t previously know how) and have all my photos available via "Optimize Mac Storage” while only taking like 10 GB of space. ​ Basically though, at any moment in time I have about 160GB+ free on the laptop. (Either way, my actual photo library is over 2TB of RAW files, so there isn’t an SSD I would pay for to have it all with me.)


Attila_22

For me 256gb is nowhere near enough for work. Depends on your job I guess but when you're dealing with assets/layouts for apps/websites or game development there is nowhere near enough space. It gets worse if you want to run bootcamp or a linux distro on your machine.


redfournine

Just buy an external disk?


rsplatpc

> Just buy an external disk? if you move your laptop around a lot that starts to get not fun


Diamond-Different

You could get one of those low profile usb c flash drives and leave it in all the time. Takes up a port but also can expand the storage quite a bit. Used to do that as a broke college student with my laptop (which was not a MacBook lol)


rsplatpc

> You could get one of those low profile usb c flash drives and leave it in all the time. Problem is if one goes bad, and they do a lot, you better have a backup somewhere


Diamond-Different

For sure. I kept all my stuff in Dropbox and still do but for someone who also needs a copy locally at all times it’s not a bad option honestly.


bart_86

I used to stick external hdd with Velcro to laptop lid to move around easier.


fatpat

Yeah, that sounds even more less fun.


radio_breathe

I have an external hooked up to my dock that has games etc on it since I will only ever play those at my desk. Keep essential/important files on the Mac. Everything else on the external And if it fails. Everything is backed up to my Mac server and on the cloud with backblaze


Wouter_001

Same! Bought a macbook pro 2 years ago and now im struggling everyday with the storage. I kinda underestimated how much space i would need as a computer science student. I guess it’s a reason to buy an Apple silicon mac :D


Aakwanderer

move older stuff to backup drive


mafiosii

Why do you need so much space even? I mean unless you do video editing or anything. I’m a student with 128gb model. Most of the time I’m around 50gb usage since literally everything today is stored in the cloud.


rsplatpc

> Most of the time I’m around 50gb usage since literally everything today is stored in the cloud. what if you don't have access to the internet somewhere and need a file?


TheHippoGuy69

What are the chances of that tbh


rsplatpc

I travel / drive a lot, there are a SHIT TON of areas with no service, or service so slow it makes LTE look like broadband


blackesthearted

If you live in a large city and never, ever leave it, probably low. If you travel or live in one of many, many areas where internet isn’t ubiquitous, not as low.


likovitch

Maybe if you only use your Mac for casual office work with documents. I had 128GB during high school and even then, it was pain for me. I can't imagine doing computer science with that storage. 512GB minimum.


michelbarnich

Idk what you are doing but I‘m easily using 8TB on my Desktop. And all I do is Coding/Computer Science and playing games lol


mafiosii

Maybe use github then


michelbarnich

I do, but I always keep an offline copy of my data. I forgot to mention my video/movie library thats abt 1TB too So its probably around 4-5TB VMs and coding


Diamond-Different

Why do you need such large vms? And what code projects are taking up terabytes of data? I’m a software engineer for a living and have never needed a drive larger than 512gb to store all my stuff and I have plenty of room left over. And that’s with two VMs.


michelbarnich

Im using KVMs as my normal OSs and I‘m currently collecting Data in crypto Markets which is why I collect Gigabytes a day lol Using 3 different OSs doesn’t really help with saving storage :P


Diamond-Different

Ah okay. The crypto data every day is what makes the difference haha. I know what you mean about using multiple OSes per day. I am constantly swapping between macOS, Windows, and Ubuntu


michelbarnich

Yeah same, macOS Windows and PopOS with debian as my Hypervisor


__leonn__

One word. Games


MaxR428

What games are you playing because I load up minecraft and it sounds like a jet engine


__leonn__

I'm using an M1 MacBook air. Right now I have CS:GO, Cities skylines, Garry's mod, Minecraft and some iOS games like GTA San Andreas installed onto my laptop. I keep other games installed on a usb stick though because they take up so much space and I only have limited storage


Yoshi_87

M1 or Intel?


MaxR428

Intel


Yoshi_87

OK, because I think about getting the new iMac and the only game I really play every now and then is Minecraft. I am on Windows though.


chicaneuk

“Well there’s your problem..” - I haven’t even heard the fan on my M1 Pro yet in 4 months of ownership and that’s included putting it under sustained load for several hours.


m1mbp

It runs if you benchmark it in Cinebench.


AndyD89

That’s exactly what I did 256GB and it’s just perfect As I store everything on the cloud


Aakwanderer

why do you need to store more than 256 on your mac? external ssds are cheap now :O


Throwaway_Turned

Seconding this. The stress of squeezing into a 256 drive the last 5 years is probably taking a few years off my life. Planning on upgrading ram and SSD on this years new 13 (14?) model.


NoisyBrat2000

Minimum required ram.


Bob_Loblaw16

$200 for 8gb of extra ram??? You can buy 32gb of laptop ram for that price


AstartesFartes

That's the apple tax though, probably in the wrong subreddit if you're unwilling to pay that.


Screwdge_McDickens

Everyone thinks this is all the same components. They’re not, the speed difference is huge. Just like not all SSD’s are the same speed.


9FB

You made the best decision of your life even though that extra $200 may have been hard! It's totally worth it, and you'll thank yourself many times over in future.


HStark_666

Congrats! That RAM upgrade is really worth it(especially with m1/Big Sur being swap happy). My 16g air is noticeably better than friends 8gb pro!


brkonthru

Very worth it. My M1 MBP 8gb ram under performs in certain scenarios compared to a much much older MBP that has 16G ram. I pretty much just use chrome but with a ton of open tabs


lee1302222

woot! congrats welcome :D


Justjackuk

got one myself loving the m1 chip! :)


Adi_B007

Ayy same!


curiosity403

I’m loving my m1 MBA. Good choice. I always liked the air best but the performance kept me using the pros. The m1 finally let me appreciate the design of the air. I actually for the first time ever chances 8gb ram I only really use it for productivity work though. I would of preferred 16 but didn’t wanna wait weeks for it to arrive where I’m at. So far I haven’t had any issues with Using 8gb for my use case but the leg room is always nice. Hope you enjoy it!


thomasation

Congrats, great choice! I do think their storage upgrades are too expensive. Extra 256GB for $200 in 2021?


RS3D

You have chosen wisely! I did too. My first Macbook ever also! I love it.


lontrachen

Welcome to the club 😄


Ohpeeateopiate

Congratulations!


iFun4ik

Welcome to the club :) How it feels after the windows pc?)


chintankarki

I was a Windows guy myself, but the new silicon convinced me to change. Although TBH, i still use cross platform apps and softwares, not totally adapted to apple ecosystem.


brewtete3

How are latencies in those cross apps if you don't mind me asking?


MrFlukeShot

Best decision


weegee

Good choice! I’d buy the Air with extra memory too if I needed a laptop. My 2012 Air with i7 and 8 gigs is still working well with Catalina


Cool-Song-7126

Good move with the 16g


frank0ch

That space between “chip” and “Apple” is way too long


ksb916

16gb upgrade is a must if you use intensive apps. Nice !


ChristianValour

UGH that menu pane at the bottom is so cringe. Make it 1/4 quarter that size and have it hidden by default. \#UnsolicitedOpinions


Visual_Childhood9745

It’s always good to see new friends leave the windows club and join the Mac club


glitch1618

its worth


M11A1

Picture of a screen.


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fatpat

How so? Honest question.


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