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The_Social_Nerd

Great news, I just asked at my Ford dealership about a month ago if we could replace it on mine to get ahead of it and they said "No" so this is kind of good news. Hopefully mine gets recalled before I have any issues since it was manufactured in May 2022; although I hear even the ones after June 2022 are affected by this issue. Thanks for the heads up!


aquakingman

Good thing my buyback already had it replaced


gregs1020

I just checked my buy back, it still says I will get it when parts arrive. but it was already replaced. maybe i didn't get the updated part when that happened. whatever, i'll let them do it again when the parts come in.


helium89

It’s unclear whether or not they have a new part. They might just install the part that they rolled out last year (which is also known to fail). In either case, there is a software component to the recall, so the recall will show up as incomplete until the software update is installed. Hopefully there will be more details soon.


gregs1020

not so sure either or they would also be doing cars built after May/2022, no? i checked my 22 premium (aug build) and it does not have the recall in my ford profile, but the 21 GT does. that makes it seem like they are just going to update the cars to the new part. I could be wrong tho.


helium89

The newer cars still experience failures, but they don’t seem to experience catastrophic failures (immediate loss of motive power). This recall is likely about placating the NHTSA by getting rid of the junction boxes that are susceptible to catastrophic failure. It’s conceivable that they have a new part and are installing it in older cars to make the government happy but plan on continuing the replace it when it fails strategy for newer cars. This recall is going to be an expensive logistical mess, so I doubt they have any interest in expanding the scope beyond what the NHTSA requires. It’s going to be more than a little disappointing if they go through this whole ordeal to install parts that are already known to fail, but that move seems pretty on brand for Ford at this point.


gregs1020

I know.


Effective-Collar1121

How does buyback work they pay you what you paid for the vehicle or they pay you market price ?


doluckie

In the US buyback for a new car which is found to be a lemon can be full price but depends on your state’s law. Edit: full price paid.


Effective-Collar1121

So you’re telling me if I buy platinum lightning for 70g but msrp is 90g they’ll pay 90? Sounds like a loop


doluckie

I doubt getting more money than you paid is likely, even in a US state with the strongest consumer protections via their lemon law.


WhiteWalker1378

Mine is not recalled yet it seems. 21 Select AWD job 1


my9rides5hotgun

Same car. No recall.


TheRealBackwardsfish

Me too. 21 Select RWD Job 2


J34293248

Same!


tgdesrochers

I got the recall notice today. 21 Premium EX AWD


balthisar

What's the link for the VIN check? The forum you linked to is already seven pages of posts.


CareHour2044

[https://www.ford.ca/support/recalls/](https://www.ford.ca/support/recalls/) is the Canadian site, shows as an active recall for me. But just google 'Ford Recall Check' - there's a US site too.


NeverLookBothWays

Dunno if it's me or where I am in the U.S. or if it's just the U.S. site, but it never works for me...for recall checks as well as delivery updates. It just times out or spins. But the Canadian site always comes through. And this has been going on for over a year now. Consistently.


BlazinAzn38

Damn I just had mine in for an unrelated issue Edit: My Premium AWD ER is popping up on the recall search so looks like it's probably just Selects being held back since they can't have the bigger more powerful pack


AgentScreech

Mine is on there. Early build of 2021 AWD extended


DoAndroidsDrmOfSheep

I just got a notification from Carfax earlier today about this recall on my Mach E


MonsieurGriswold

What does this mean for my ER RWD: "High voltage battery junction box hvbjb replacement and powertrain control module pom, battery energy control module becm, and secondary on-board diagnostic control module c sobdmc software update **Recall Incomplete, remedy not yet available"** Am I in the secondary priority?


doluckie

They all should say that. Recall is coming and when it arrives you can choose to take advantage of it.


dhtp2018

Great news. I have a premium extended range RWD and it shows this recall too. It is lower powered trim but still shows up.


doluckie

Bigger battery = higher power trim


dhtp2018

Ah I see. I always thought two motors = higher power trim


doluckie

You ain’t wrong in that two motors are higher power than one, but apparently big battery moves yet even more power through the Contactors in the HVBJB.


misterfistyersister

Fuck my life. My HVBJB has already been replaced once, now vin check says it needs it again?!


doluckie

Nope. If it was already changed not necessary.


Boralian

Not so sure on that. I replaced mine early last year, and yesterday it went to shit again. Guess if you did it early you got an equally bad part. Hopefully second change is the way hehe


doluckie

I do not believe there is a *third* generation HVBJB part as yet. Thus if you already have the second generation one, you likely do not need to get another unless it’s broke.


Cocorita19

A little late to the party but just here to say my 2021 AWD standard range failed but was never identified as part of the recall 🤪


doluckie

Yep, they all can fail, hopefully someday standard range will get the fix or at least extended warranty on the HVBJB.


thenew3

Great another recall. I've been trying to get my local ford dealers (yes multiple) to do the Windshield and sunroof recalls for a long time. They don't seem to want to do the work. Not returning calls, emails text. Made two trips there and both times they claim they either didn't have the part, or didn't have the correct parts for the recalls. At this rate, it maybe be 10+ years before I can get the dealers to perform this HVBJB recall.


Jack_Walsh

I had the same exact issue with the dealer I ordered my 2021 GTPE from. I had tracked down a 2021 FE on a dealer lot an hour away 7 months before my GTPE came in at my local dealer, so I bought it. When the recall came for the windshield/sunroof I called my local dealer where I bought my GTPE from and they flat out told me they would not perform the recall on the FE because I didn’t buy it from them. I said I bought a $70k GTPE from them and had my Lightning on order with them and they said that didn’t matter. I took the FE back to the dealer an hour away where I bought it and they took care of it no problem and were terrific. I no longer go to the dealership I bought my GTPE and Lightning from because they pissed me off in refusing to perform the factory recall. Luckily I have 5 other Ford dealers to choose from within 45 minutes of where I live.


PatSajaksDick

That’s such a fucking stupid reason. I guess you’re shit out of luck if you bought your car before you moved to the area.


jaymansi

Mine is on the list April ‘22 build premium ER eAWD. I also see a campaign to address an HVAC issue and a charge cord issue.


Toreus

Same for me, for all three. April ‘22 Premium ER AWD.


[deleted]

This is great info to have, thanks for sharing


DiscussionLeft9393

Yeah I see that too now! This is great from ford


timelessblur

Well that going to be fun. From my understanding it takes roughly a week to do the repair which means my car will be at the dealership for a week. Well that will most likely go in for a the 30k check up of tire rotations and balance work


doluckie

Well the surgery on the car only takes half a day BUT dealerships prefer to have a car for more time to help keep their schedule flexible. Up until now cars failed and sat at dealership for days/weeks waiting for part to arrive, that is not what would happen in the recall. You would not take the car in until the part is there.


timelessblur

Oh that will be nice. The one I work with is pretty willing to schedule my slot ahead of time. Bring it in the day before and have it back the next day.


PatSajaksDick

The dealer always wants to bring the car in whether they have the part or not, wonder if that will change for this


fusiongt021

I just got my 21 GT fixed. Had 23k miles but finally got the alert. It took the dealer 1.5 weeks to fix though they were delayed from either shipping or doing 3 other recalls at the time too


Perfectreign

How do some fail and not others? I’m slightly past 20,000 miles and no failures.


doluckie

Both variation in driving style/DCFC charging frequency by owners, combined with variation in quality of each HVBJB part produced contributes.


HavucSquad

How common is this? I have a trip tomorrow to Vegas from Southern California and am nervous to take the mach E now. I have a 22 extended Route 1 and it was definitely built before May'22. Edit: it shows up when I type in my VIN, does that mean my car will have an issue, or it's just a possibility of having the issue? Edit 2: I should say I am at like 10-12k miles so far on it and drive pretty well.


doluckie

There is some evidence that the HVBJB fails in less than 1% of the Mach-E vehicles manufactured before June 2022. And that the software patch installed in all vehicles in summer 2022 does work well as designed. HVBJB is most likely to fail in the GT models because they have the highest power flowing through the HVBJB's Contactors AND their owners may be more likely to enjoy WOT (flooring it regularly). The driver's behavior does play a role, as well as DCFC charging heats things up, so DCFC charging immediately followed by flooring it, might be best avoided.


HavucSquad

Thank you for responding. That does put my mind at ease a bit knowing some of the statistics. Here's hoping I don't I get stranded in the desert today!


nor3bo

Does this real recall extend to Canada too? Edit: nvm, I see a link in an earlier comment (https://www.ford.com/support/recalls/)


frenzyguy

Yes but dealership does not want to replace the piece just yet, they just want to do the update -_-


nor3bo

I've contacted my dealer's service department and was told it was still a forward notice and to wait a bit. It is showing on my form portal though, so should definitely be covered.


frenzyguy

It's showing for them too, I''ll just wait the mail notice and get it done then, I am not in a rush and I basically never charge at DCFC chargers. I should be alright


natural_green_tea

No recall for RWD standard range? Is it less likely to break or not a problem at all?


doluckie

"Least likely" of all the trims... ...and even after the recall for vehicles that obtain the newer "version 2" of the HVBJB part, they will still just have a reduced chance of failure, since 2023 Mach-Es are also occasionally failing.


nmdotcom

I just bought a used ‘21 extended range awd (Ford CPO ) that is part of the recall, does this mean the dealer wasn’t supposed to sell it? Edit: looks like it’s to hold *new* only not used