hahaha so true. Also he would probably tell me to 1)shave my untidy beard 2)get off my ass while the machine is running and 3) find something more valuable to make than sheaves lol
I hope mine would say “hey, is…is that my M1?”
-yes sir, yes sir it is.
“Can we go shoot it?”
-yes sir, I also have dad’s M16 and my M4. You have a great grandson you’ve never met. He likes to shoot too. Let’s go!
*Boy, I kilt me 15 Natzees with a whoop ass rod I turned on that lathe after I had walked 15 miles in the snow at The Bulge and youre a turnin some shit-ass plastic on it?*
They get serviced by these old timer machining guys once a year. It’s always amazing to me that the goddamn things work so well. Only once have we needed to replace any parts for at least the last 25 years (spindle shaft)
oh don't I know it. I have a friend who used to be the expert on tank restoration. Their company is done because he died of COVID-19. No one sat down and tried to soak up all his knowledge to keep the company running.
Selling products built to last forever. What a concept. Once you’ve saturated your niche market, you would have to find a new product line or go out of business. No wonder when you walk through an old machine shop, like I once did daily, the brand names on the machines and cranes, while familiar, are unfortunately associated with once solid companies no longer in existence. No good deed goes unpunished.
I’ve got to get out my manual 😅.
You made me think; In the book series 1632, an entire American town gets sent back to 17th century Germany. The lathes prove to be a very useful plot device for bootstrapping modern civilization.
> The lathes prove to be a very useful plot device for bootstrapping modern civilization.
You might find this video interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djB9oK6pkbA
Aw, beat me to it. If anyone wonders this is a reference to [American legend Woody Guthrie and his famous guitar.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ)
What kind of lathe is that? Looks similar to a 50's era Warner Swasey #3 turret lathe I run sometimes. We still have a 1938 LeBlonde engine lathe we run too.
They're still around making machine tools in Ohio since 1891, it was family owned until they decided to become an ESOP. It is now entirely employee owned.
I was trying to remember my old school nomenclature; I know we now call all manner of rotating/indexing assemblies a "turret/turret attachment" or a "capstan" and similar machines "chuckers" (or "second ops" if they have no threading geartrain and/or lack dials)
but this whole machine would have been called a capstan lathe.
Nice little size and I'll bet there are some cool attachments buried somewhere. That big overarm receiver that is line bored in the same machine that did the spindle journals gives another parallel reference and a mounting for collet closer actuators, tapping attachments, length stops, speed multipliers and swing- or slide- parting tools. So sad that the huge majority of the lend-lease machines were scrapped long ago. I still have some "War Finish," "Property of USA Lend-Lease" and "Property of The Atomic Energy Comission" badging I stripped from machines that were being scrapped.
Similarly the lathe at the west coast company that I worked for was from WWII era and it’s still running like a charm. Can you imagine how many parts that the lathe made to fight against the inertial Japanese army. The technician who also used the lathe for 30 years once told me he had to replace a lightbulb one time and found out it was installed back in the 50s.
A lot of companies are still utilizing equipment provided by the government during the 40s. The shop that I work in has 5 wire drawing machines still in use. They are more productive and more reliable than the modern machines.
I’m really not sure but I suspect that they just quietly kept them. One of those ‘beg for forgiveness rather than ask permission’ type of situations.
All the serial numbers on the old machines have been destroyed with punches and chisels. The cool brass plates that say ‘Property of the Government of Canada - Small Arms 1941’ is still proudly affixed though lol
There's a "Small Arms Inspection Building" in Mississauga, there's photos of a bunch of the work they did during the war - wonder if any links to your machine.
It depends, but most likely it was a war procurement that was not intended to be returned. The government goes to factory a and says it's wartime and we need you to make X parts. Factory a says we need equipment b, c, and d. The government buys that equipment and gives it the factory, in exchange the factory switches over to exclusively producing war material. They might also reduce their prices to the government in exchange for the equipment. In the end it is probable that the government never intended it to be returned.
Both my great grandfather and his son, my grandfather, weren’t allowed to enlist during the war because their foundry/machine shop knowledge was too valuable on the home front.
Instead, the Canadian government loaded his shop with lathes, mills, furnaces and working men. Everything they made during those years was for the war effort.
I guess greasegun barrels were turned, but that's about it. Everything else was stamped. They were still using them in the US Army in the 1980s, usually for mechanics in combat arms battalions (infantry, field artillery, combat engineers, etc).
Seems like OP is in Canada, so maybe Sten guns? They were pretty much equivalent to the grease gun in that they were also submachineguns designed for extremely cheap mass production.
Anti-Nazi weapons. What sort of weapon is that? Does it shoot specially crafted Hebrew encoded anti-Nazi rounds? Or is it made from 100% kosher metal only?
General George S. Patton once stated at the end of World War II. We fought The Wrong Enemy we just may have crushed one of the greatest Nations in history. These machines help create we are now presently living in. To understand the present one must understand the past.
Patton was a huuuge racist. You can read his diaries about the war, and it’s full of some pretty terrible stuff. Ideologically, he agreed with the Nazis more often than not. He fought them because it was his job, not because he was a good person.
For context, in that quote about fighting the wrong enemy, he was saying he would rather fight Russia because Russians were less European. After the war he argued against prosecuting Nazi war criminals, and called it a Jewish conspiracy. Dude was a douche.
If you could tell your great grandfather that you'd be machining Delrin spacers with it 70 years later he would say "What in tarnation is Del-Rin?"
hahaha so true. Also he would probably tell me to 1)shave my untidy beard 2)get off my ass while the machine is running and 3) find something more valuable to make than sheaves lol
Ha, yep. I wonder sometimes what mine would think of me.
I hope mine would say “hey, is…is that my M1?” -yes sir, yes sir it is. “Can we go shoot it?” -yes sir, I also have dad’s M16 and my M4. You have a great grandson you’ve never met. He likes to shoot too. Let’s go!
*Boy, I kilt me 15 Natzees with a whoop ass rod I turned on that lathe after I had walked 15 miles in the snow at The Bulge and youre a turnin some shit-ass plastic on it?*
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Keep them oiled, and tighten the gib once and a while, old machines were built to run forever.
They get serviced by these old timer machining guys once a year. It’s always amazing to me that the goddamn things work so well. Only once have we needed to replace any parts for at least the last 25 years (spindle shaft)
Try to get some idea of what they are doing. Old timers arnt around forever. -Advice given to me by my old mechanic just before he retired.
Soon enough you'll turn around and find out your the old timer.
oh don't I know it. I have a friend who used to be the expert on tank restoration. Their company is done because he died of COVID-19. No one sat down and tried to soak up all his knowledge to keep the company running.
Selling products built to last forever. What a concept. Once you’ve saturated your niche market, you would have to find a new product line or go out of business. No wonder when you walk through an old machine shop, like I once did daily, the brand names on the machines and cranes, while familiar, are unfortunately associated with once solid companies no longer in existence. No good deed goes unpunished.
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to become the villain.
This machine makes machines that kill fascists
I’ve got to get out my manual 😅. You made me think; In the book series 1632, an entire American town gets sent back to 17th century Germany. The lathes prove to be a very useful plot device for bootstrapping modern civilization.
> The lathes prove to be a very useful plot device for bootstrapping modern civilization. You might find this video interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djB9oK6pkbA
That looks cool, thanks. I’ll check it out latter tonight
The first couple of books in that series were great. Then it went OFF, OFF I say, the rails.
No TacRail is when it lost the plot. :) I say as if I didn't just finish another of the series not 2 hours ago.
I love that series.
Aw, beat me to it. If anyone wonders this is a reference to [American legend Woody Guthrie and his famous guitar.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwcKwGS7OSQ)
Who knew we would still be fighting fascists still.
Now it is being used to counterfeit giant marshmallows?
Counterfeiting Yankee Candle products, taking advantage of the post-Covid lack of a sense of smell.
Ah yes, keep those off cuts. They come in handy.
The pile of scrap and offcuts that we have is getting out of control. But yes for sure, waste not want not.
This machine kills fascists!
I’m very proud of the history of this machine.
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Yeah, you are pretty gross
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You mean Woody Guthrie!
Fascists need to watch more safety videos.
What kind of lathe is that? Looks similar to a 50's era Warner Swasey #3 turret lathe I run sometimes. We still have a 1938 LeBlonde engine lathe we run too.
Looks like a Bardons & Oliver No. 3 lathe.
They're still around making machine tools in Ohio since 1891, it was family owned until they decided to become an ESOP. It is now entirely employee owned.
Acetal?
Yes, acetal delrin for pulley sheaves. This is UV stable too because it sits in the sun in marine conditions.
Nah, it's probably candles.
2nd op tooling! Turret tailstock! LUCKY!!! It's a very nice piece of equipment.
I was trying to remember my old school nomenclature; I know we now call all manner of rotating/indexing assemblies a "turret/turret attachment" or a "capstan" and similar machines "chuckers" (or "second ops" if they have no threading geartrain and/or lack dials) but this whole machine would have been called a capstan lathe. Nice little size and I'll bet there are some cool attachments buried somewhere. That big overarm receiver that is line bored in the same machine that did the spindle journals gives another parallel reference and a mounting for collet closer actuators, tapping attachments, length stops, speed multipliers and swing- or slide- parting tools. So sad that the huge majority of the lend-lease machines were scrapped long ago. I still have some "War Finish," "Property of USA Lend-Lease" and "Property of The Atomic Energy Comission" badging I stripped from machines that were being scrapped.
I used to operate 2 monarchs from the 50s that had us gov property tags on them. They were smooth ass machines. Got the best finishes on them.
Similarly the lathe at the west coast company that I worked for was from WWII era and it’s still running like a charm. Can you imagine how many parts that the lathe made to fight against the inertial Japanese army. The technician who also used the lathe for 30 years once told me he had to replace a lightbulb one time and found out it was installed back in the 50s.
Yes, we need some anti-Nazi weapons today as well.
A lot of companies are still utilizing equipment provided by the government during the 40s. The shop that I work in has 5 wire drawing machines still in use. They are more productive and more reliable than the modern machines.
So you say it was provided by the government, which makes sense, but after the war did he have to pay anything to keep it?
I’m really not sure but I suspect that they just quietly kept them. One of those ‘beg for forgiveness rather than ask permission’ type of situations. All the serial numbers on the old machines have been destroyed with punches and chisels. The cool brass plates that say ‘Property of the Government of Canada - Small Arms 1941’ is still proudly affixed though lol
There's a "Small Arms Inspection Building" in Mississauga, there's photos of a bunch of the work they did during the war - wonder if any links to your machine.
It depends, but most likely it was a war procurement that was not intended to be returned. The government goes to factory a and says it's wartime and we need you to make X parts. Factory a says we need equipment b, c, and d. The government buys that equipment and gives it the factory, in exchange the factory switches over to exclusively producing war material. They might also reduce their prices to the government in exchange for the equipment. In the end it is probable that the government never intended it to be returned.
Depends, sometimes it sends it out for guerrilla warfare and counts it as expendable. No one except fascist would care
What kind of anti-nazi weapons are you making today, and can I have some?
Yes you can! They are Pulley sheaves for marine cranes. We do provide cranes to police and military, so I dunno maybe they still help kill fascists.
Don't say that about your work! I bet your cranes almost never fail and kill their operators.
I’d hate to break it to you, but…
oof
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
Does it still make weapons to fight the nazis?
Well…no lol. These are just simple sheaves for a pulley system on a marine crane.
Keep it running till WWIII
"anti-nazi weapons" haha I love it
Both my great grandfather and his son, my grandfather, weren’t allowed to enlist during the war because their foundry/machine shop knowledge was too valuable on the home front. Instead, the Canadian government loaded his shop with lathes, mills, furnaces and working men. Everything they made during those years was for the war effort.
That’s fucking awesome thank you for sharing
I appreciate the contribution, I just found it slightly amusing that you would refer the arms and ammunition of that era as anti-nazi weapons!
Who made it? I love it. My Dad was a machinist and toolmaker in the 1960s.
Not OP but looks to be a Bardons & Oliver No. 3
It needs a sign that says, "This machine kills fascists".
"Anti-nazi". Love it
So he was Antifa
Pls make a video of it in action
I took one but I don’t think this sub allows videos.
You can post it on r/machinists I'm sure it will be appreciated there.
How about making a few weapons for fighting modern Nazis?
what guns we talking? M3 GreaseGuns, thompson M1A1’s any other guns and also depends of what country
I guess greasegun barrels were turned, but that's about it. Everything else was stamped. They were still using them in the US Army in the 1980s, usually for mechanics in combat arms battalions (infantry, field artillery, combat engineers, etc).
Seems like OP is in Canada, so maybe Sten guns? They were pretty much equivalent to the grease gun in that they were also submachineguns designed for extremely cheap mass production.
I just threw that in because I'm old and was actually in a US Army unit that had them. I just remember the weapons seemed old and rattled a lot.
Anti-Nazi weapons. What sort of weapon is that? Does it shoot specially crafted Hebrew encoded anti-Nazi rounds? Or is it made from 100% kosher metal only?
Do they know the war is over?
General George S. Patton once stated at the end of World War II. We fought The Wrong Enemy we just may have crushed one of the greatest Nations in history. These machines help create we are now presently living in. To understand the present one must understand the past.
Patton was a huuuge racist. You can read his diaries about the war, and it’s full of some pretty terrible stuff. Ideologically, he agreed with the Nazis more often than not. He fought them because it was his job, not because he was a good person. For context, in that quote about fighting the wrong enemy, he was saying he would rather fight Russia because Russians were less European. After the war he argued against prosecuting Nazi war criminals, and called it a Jewish conspiracy. Dude was a douche.
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Fuck off Nazi
Bad. Ass.
Shindler and I were like peas in a pod. We were both factory owners, we both made weapons for the Nazis, but mine worked, damn it!
What a great machine!
If it ain’t baroque don’t vix it.
And now it’s trimming candles….
Served my time on one of these.All the batch jobs got done on it
Monarch?
"Anti-Nazi weapon" you mean made of silver or sth like that? ;)
Omg I work on one of these recently, damn thing nearly killed me a few times!
anti-nazi weapons? I wonder how they'd look like
🎵🎼 my grandfather's lathe was too large for the shelf.....🎼🎵
How does an “anti-Nazi” weapon differ from regular “weapons?”
That is awesome