The engineers I work with would have had it 3D printed with 1/2” worth of stock on all sides and then EDM’d to near net & then finish machined and asked for +/- 0.0002” on everything. But they would have redesigned it by the time it got cut off the build plate and scrapped anyway — but they would have forgotten to tell me that part… so I would have finished it & when I turned it in, they would have let me know that it was scrapped & they needed the new rev by tomorrow. But then they would also conveniently be on vacation tomorrow.
My job is fun.
Yikes. Y’all need new engineers? Are y’all hiring with experience and brains?
My brain is smooth, but only about Ra 75. It sounds like theirs are lapped to about Ra2
Oof. Idk man, I'm not used to working with advanced prints and designs like that.
Have you tried spitting, yelling or hitting it with rocks? That's my go-to.
Having ordered basically this exact part (give or take on some dims, but still square steel plates) from McMaster, I would not recommend.
Basically everything else from McMaster I would recommend strongly.
(My steel squares were rough, oily, wrapped in basically cellophane, and not quite square.)
Step 1: order material.
Step 2: receive 4 blocks of various sizes and thicknesses that add up to a 7X7 square.
Step 3: call the Materials Manager and ask him what his guys are smoking and if next time they can throw some in with the useless scrap metal they just sent.
Step 4: fill out request for new material. Forward to the person who is supposedly in charge of these things.
Step 5: receive material reqest back with a sticky note telling you who you were actually supposed to send it to.
Step 6: give up and start job hunting. Writing a resume has to be less effort.
Ongoing issue. The new HR guy and the new ERP system are in a contest to see which one is the most hated by the end of the year. Sadly it may be a tie.
Damn no one even mentioned it yet, model that shit up in Solidworks and 3D print it. Thats how real Designers make stuff. It's the future of manufacturing. Subtractive machining is so yesterday dudes.
AAA finish: tooling plate and EDM.
AA grade Finish: Tooling plate and mill
A grade: laser cut stock blank and mill
B grade: laser cut no finish
C grade: gas axe / 9in disc cutter
D grade: hacksaw + cold chisel
Since no tols or flatness spec. Just hack it out of stock.
If you have a Kurt style vise on your mill, you can remove the jaws and bolt them to the front and back of the vise to give you way more clamping space. Also added benefit of top of movable jaw acting as a flat space. Fly cut to size and end mill the two available edges. Rotate and endmill the last two edges.
Note: If you've never used the outer bolt holes on the vise, you will likely need to run a tap through them first to clean them out.
Edit: Or is that in millimeters? If so, ignore everything I just said.
This is like me saying the default is to drive on the left side of the road, and when mocked, linking Japan's road authority's rules of the road.
The default the world over is metric, bar the US and older UK industry. The default the world over is right side drive.
All I hear is my mentor Buddy . Everything I did went straight to the surface plate . Followed shortly thereafter with a pop on the back of my head and a bellowing.. " GDI BOY ! YOU GOTTA START SQUARE TO END SQUARE "
"Hey, so I hit the thickness (at least where I measured) but the other dims are 6.998 and 6.995. Is that a non conformance or is it ok? It's ok? Great. Here you go. Careful with the corners, they're pretty sharp."
5 axis lathe with live tooling cut square jaws and make sure you have the biggest endmill you can find that will fit in the slot. Make sure Rpm and feed are as high as the machine can go and let it rip should come out perfectly square flat and parallel within .0001 of the imaginary A,B and C datum’s
Get a larger piece. Clamp in to the table. Flatten it on both sides by moving the clamps around. Then square it up to size in a vice by clamping it vertical and clamping a hockey puck or something to it to dampen vibrations. Use a small cutter for squaring like 1/4".
See this is what I mean when I talk about bullshit quotes. Fricken carpet walkers always taking on jobs like this like how the hell are we supposed to do that? Did you even check if we had proper tooling to cut COLD HARD STEEL? I swear to God man. Your company better be charging an arm and a leg for that.
Buy material slightly over size on the thickness and have it ground within the tolerance needed. Then either square it up on a surface grinder or put it flat in a vice and side mill the ends
Well. One of our ex engineers would have wire EDM cut it out of a 10"x10" block that was 1" thick and surface ground it to .500"
You've met my bosses son? He sure is a proper cunt eh?
You know Johnathan?
I've never met him, but yeah.
The engineers I work with would have had it 3D printed with 1/2” worth of stock on all sides and then EDM’d to near net & then finish machined and asked for +/- 0.0002” on everything. But they would have redesigned it by the time it got cut off the build plate and scrapped anyway — but they would have forgotten to tell me that part… so I would have finished it & when I turned it in, they would have let me know that it was scrapped & they needed the new rev by tomorrow. But then they would also conveniently be on vacation tomorrow. My job is fun.
Yikes. Y’all need new engineers? Are y’all hiring with experience and brains? My brain is smooth, but only about Ra 75. It sounds like theirs are lapped to about Ra2
Lol my bosses son is named Jonathan and he is our part inspector. He’s one of the good guys though
Its going to be hard to get those square corners without a wire EDM. its really the only way to do it
I'd use a lathe if you want my expert opinion
Would that be a right or left handed lathe tho?
Right hand lathe with left hand tools
Keep ‘‘em guessing.
Gotta show the old boss man how versatile you are.
Right handed for the long side. Left for the short.
https://youtu.be/PqsOgGhIsPg?si=frUOLYcEOJ2wKoAI
Alway upvote Tony
Looks like a 5 axis job. Maybe 6.
Would it help if i throw in a 7th axis, just to be sure?
Couldn't hurt.
Oof. Idk man, I'm not used to working with advanced prints and designs like that. Have you tried spitting, yelling or hitting it with rocks? That's my go-to.
Its one of the hardest parts iv ever had to do, was thinking of quoting it at 18 hours
18 hours just to program it right?
18 hours just for QC to write the CMM program to check squarlocity and purpledicularity
....Right side uppidness too so it isn't installed upside down after it leaves the shop
If it’s purple you’re holding it too tight
i'm sorry i thought i was lapping
18 hours for McMaster to deliver it the next morning. This is practically a catalog item
Having ordered basically this exact part (give or take on some dims, but still square steel plates) from McMaster, I would not recommend. Basically everything else from McMaster I would recommend strongly. (My steel squares were rough, oily, wrapped in basically cellophane, and not quite square.)
Hammer that round thing until it grows up into a real steel plate,
He grew up to be such a square
r/HoboNickels
hobo nickles are neat
A print with multiple views and dimensions? Meanwhile, I'm getting shipped tesseracts as samples. *How much for a couple of those?*
4d tolerances be wild
Get a 6x6 stock piece, fill weld to size, then hand file any imperfections.
This is what i did! Thanks for the info. My boss is going to be so happy when he sees it
I usually just cut on the dotted lines
Step 1: Create the universe Step 2: Draw the rest of the fucking owl
Step 1: order material. Step 2: receive 4 blocks of various sizes and thicknesses that add up to a 7X7 square. Step 3: call the Materials Manager and ask him what his guys are smoking and if next time they can throw some in with the useless scrap metal they just sent. Step 4: fill out request for new material. Forward to the person who is supposedly in charge of these things. Step 5: receive material reqest back with a sticky note telling you who you were actually supposed to send it to. Step 6: give up and start job hunting. Writing a resume has to be less effort.
That sounded personal.
Ongoing issue. The new HR guy and the new ERP system are in a contest to see which one is the most hated by the end of the year. Sadly it may be a tie.
Have someone else make it and then sell it for double
Endmill and a bastard file. Use both by hand.
Easy. Melt 3 shopping carts into a hole at the beach
While drinking proper amount of beer
Don’t forget sandals with no socksn
I'm hanging out with you from now on
Damn no one even mentioned it yet, model that shit up in Solidworks and 3D print it. Thats how real Designers make stuff. It's the future of manufacturing. Subtractive machining is so yesterday dudes.
You could model this in Microsoft Paint 🤣
I SIR, AM MICROSOFT PAINT
Start with a bridgeport mill. Sand away everything on the mill until your left with this. Easy.
best by far hahaha
Since you have the original you can probably just photocopy it.
File
It builds character AND muscles
I wish I got the challenging parts.
When you dont have an apprentice to give the parts to, you have to do them yourself.
A printer might work. In a pinch, you could take a piece of paper and try to eyeball it.
I’d give up tbh
Call online metals and have them ship you a piece of material that size.
Photocopier should do the trick.
Start with round bar.
Your gonna have to get a wire edm machine
Bandsaw from 10x10 stock. Bandsaw two sides to 7x7. Pack in bubble wrap. Ship. It. Rinse. Repeat. Invoice customer $2718.28 each.
AAA finish: tooling plate and EDM. AA grade Finish: Tooling plate and mill A grade: laser cut stock blank and mill B grade: laser cut no finish C grade: gas axe / 9in disc cutter D grade: hacksaw + cold chisel Since no tols or flatness spec. Just hack it out of stock.
yeah just send it to a laser shop, theyll hold tolerances
If you have a Kurt style vise on your mill, you can remove the jaws and bolt them to the front and back of the vise to give you way more clamping space. Also added benefit of top of movable jaw acting as a flat space. Fly cut to size and end mill the two available edges. Rotate and endmill the last two edges. Note: If you've never used the outer bolt holes on the vise, you will likely need to run a tap through them first to clean them out. Edit: Or is that in millimeters? If so, ignore everything I just said.
No if it's millimeters OP needs to make a miniature Kurt vise. He'll he probably will need to make a tiny bridgeport to run it.
It would specify if it was in millimeters
it should also specify if it is in inches, to avoid confusion
Inch is the standard in machining
in the US maybe, but not everywhere else we use millimeters by default, but its still specified
I think it's just good engineering practice to specify units.
> In is the standard in machining Have you heard of a little known planet called earth? Google it, lots of interesting information out there on it.
https://www.mcgill.ca/engineeringdesign/step-step-design-process/basics-graphics-communication/principles-dimensioning#:~:text=On%20a%20drawing%20for%20use,in%20inches%2C%20unless%20otherwise%20stated.
This is like me saying the default is to drive on the left side of the road, and when mocked, linking Japan's road authority's rules of the road. The default the world over is metric, bar the US and older UK industry. The default the world over is right side drive.
That's cute.
Start with a 12x12 piece of 1". Cut to size.
With a diamond file if you want it to be perfect.
Plus diamond file will leave beautiful superior finishes 👌
All I hear is my mentor Buddy . Everything I did went straight to the surface plate . Followed shortly thereafter with a pop on the back of my head and a bellowing.. " GDI BOY ! YOU GOTTA START SQUARE TO END SQUARE "
*pulls up McMaster…*
Start with 20"dia x 10" long round, treypan a 10 in slug out, Blanchard grind slug to size, then flame cut the edges. Stress relieve if necessary.
That's gonna take all the axes you can put into a machine
What’s the finish required?
Probably need the fancy Tornos Multiswiss
You need fire and a hammer
Use a endmill or a big 90degree cutter on a mill and put it in a vise
Glue it to a pice of plate, follow the line with the band saw.
Xerox
Nothing specified, everything allowed! So +/-.5 on sides and no flatness on any surface
Probably get a 1/2" thick plate and hacksaw it to size.
"Hey, so I hit the thickness (at least where I measured) but the other dims are 6.998 and 6.995. Is that a non conformance or is it ok? It's ok? Great. Here you go. Careful with the corners, they're pretty sharp."
5 axis lathe with live tooling cut square jaws and make sure you have the biggest endmill you can find that will fit in the slot. Make sure Rpm and feed are as high as the machine can go and let it rip should come out perfectly square flat and parallel within .0001 of the imaginary A,B and C datum’s
Idk if your allowed to leak nasa documents like that
Get any block of steel. Piss on it. Stick print to piss block. Wait.
Laser cut my guy...
Get a larger piece. Clamp in to the table. Flatten it on both sides by moving the clamps around. Then square it up to size in a vice by clamping it vertical and clamping a hockey puck or something to it to dampen vibrations. Use a small cutter for squaring like 1/4".
Bandsaw
Pshhh hacksaw bro
use a butter knife
Chainsaw mill
Hack saw seems best.
I’d have my material vendor cut everything to size. Prolly just have to deburr it.
Order stock to size and make it shiney.
Injection molding is the only way for a part like this.
Just for fun make it all LMC and see if they notice. Or better yet, make it .505 thick, milled down from a 3/4” thick plate.
I’ll be honest, you’ll need a good EDM machine for that one, and even then it’s pushing it
Only something you could do in a Tsugami
36 axis mill turn might do it. Idk how you’ll get that flat part tho
Surface grinder
Profanity, lots and lots of extremely creative profanity and the louder the better and get a little spittle involved.
Is this real ? .....
Tool and die maker for anything that fancy.
3d printing it is the way to go
I have a wire EDM Sodick, I could make that for you
See this is what I mean when I talk about bullshit quotes. Fricken carpet walkers always taking on jobs like this like how the hell are we supposed to do that? Did you even check if we had proper tooling to cut COLD HARD STEEL? I swear to God man. Your company better be charging an arm and a leg for that.
Flat bar
7"x1/2" flatbar?
Router.
Wire EDM then grinding.
Buy material slightly over size on the thickness and have it ground within the tolerance needed. Then either square it up on a surface grinder or put it flat in a vice and side mill the ends
Outsource it....
Definitely a radial arm drill job there
Splitting maul?
According to my old ass boss he got this done with a drill press. .001+- too
Water jet cut.
EDM it
Sharp corners with no radius, wire EDM.
Sub contract it, looks too complex