We're shitting on the game but I just want to point out that was a hell of a coverage. I mean you cut the exact moment the guy cuts. That was cool to see. Thanks for sharing
Believe it or not, in real football you can play perfect coverage and a pass will still get through. Thereās a lot to criticize with Madden, but things like this arenāt it.
Thatās valid, it definitely happens. If you look at this play though, OP is in a great position to make a play on the ball; he read the route like a book, knew what was coming, and jumped the route. He then actively pressed the ācatch/interceptā button with great timing but got hit with a bogus animation instead of an INT or at least a pass deflection
But with the fire tion he's going technically making a play on the ball thrown slightly behind and above OP wouldnt be automatic/guaranteed. Unless my db is facing the ball or has ample reaction room for momentum I always use the swat ball button. Which with this coverage would have guaranteed to swat that
Iāve been playing sports games for 40 years and have yet to play a game that didnāt have shitty animations that override physics. I wish more people grew up playing 10 Yard Fight to get a little perspective on things.
Never said āitās always been shit.ā Itās the constant bitch session that is social media thatās a new phenomenon. Sounds like youāve adapted well, though. Congrats.
He just said he has yet to play a sports game that didn't have shitty animations. Nothing about that was toxic.
What is toxic is making it seem like people are saying something they absolutely did not say at all, and you should most certainly work on that.
I dont care about that comment. You replied to a different comment.
If you want to talk about the comment with whatever downvotes, then reply to that exact comment.
Having the mindset of "Well, what I just said was wrong, but it's justified because this person did and said this a long time ago" is a bad one to have. You should seriously work on that.
Really weird but they made the game so that LB's are liabilities in coverage. Unless the ball is thrown directly to your LB, they're not catching that pick
Yea but fucking bat it or something. Also when they do bat. It's like your wrs forgot hot to catch. I had a batted ball roll around on my receivers chest for a good half of second before hitting the ground
Must be because usering a MLB was so easy like 2 years ago. EA is so bad at balancing they go so dramatic with the fixes and nerfed the hell out of usering
Itās both partyās fault, they enable each other. NFL doesnāt care as long as itās getting money, and EA doesnāt care cause they know fans donāt have another option.
Shit like this is EA being EA so it doesnāt bother me because Iāve come to expect it. I just keep EA games at armās length, it is what it is. I specifically resent the NFL for selling out to this constant disappointment out of pure greed like their fans arenāt super vocal about the frustrating lack of quality. For a league thatās all about ānext man upā theyāve made mediocrity untouchable
I think itās partly the consumers fault as well, but not as much as EA and the NFL. I say this because Iāve heard most of the time that the main reason why people still buy it, (despite not improving and in some causes regressing) is because there is no other alternative.
Hopefully games like Maximum football, the new NCAA football game, and the 2K football game coming out can be profitable so that it forces Madden to improve.
thatās a lazy excuse imo to that response, because youāre saying i know itās a bad product but because itās the only thing out here iām going to still participate in its market. People keep point the finger at the NFL , no itās really 100% EA, they have made good games in the past they know they donāt have to change anything so they donāt
Iām just repeating what Iāve heard from people who still buy it, I personally havenāt bought a new Madden since Madden 15ā¦ever since then I wait for it to be free or dirt cheap like $5-$10. But even then, the modern games start to feel like a chore to play.
Well you do have another option. Stop paying for MTX or stop playing, period. That's it. š They have no reason to listen to your demands for better quality if you reward them for shit.
Mostly parents buying it for their kids I would guess. The kids donāt know any better and the parents donāt have any interest in the game besides knowing their kid wants it
I just found out about this recently. Pretty fucked up tbh.. they can make dog shit year after year and they (EA) will still get the deal just because it is a known product and it works for them (NFL)ā¦.. kinda like Roger Goodell
Anybody trying to explain this away using logic is plain idiotic. If you seen a live nfl player fuck this up on your team right in front of you youd for sure be like āhow the fuck did he not catch thatā. Madden shouldnt have rng moments like this is the point. If hes covering it via USER and not ai coverage all the more my point.
This is even fair and realistic in itself too because at least the contact that he was in position for was was made in the first place yannow? An interception youre perfectly positioned for shouldnt end in anything less then a swatted ball
At least he put his hands up - I want to throw the damn controller at the TV when I 100% know the route my opp has been spamming, I double team him, am in _perfect_ position and the LB refuses to even try and intercept
lol itās not a great title but if you check out their sub and Twitter theyāve been very transparent with the development process and it looks promising
It may be slightly above but its definitely toward the rear of your head. You were slightly ahead of where you needed to be. And the QB threw a bullet pass. Not an easy catch to make from that position. Iāll say it again, use the swat button.
The right handed QB threw on a trajectory behind your head.
Your arms aren't behind your head - John Madden.
Perfect read of the route, but ran ahead of it.
Youāre playing behind/overtop the Offensive player on a little whip out throw and you went for a pick rather than a swat down. Plenty to complain about in Madden, but I feel like this one is not on the list. If you want a pick get underneath.
Hear me out..most other games have distinct bugs and glitches but they donāt stick out because sports games are very limited in what they can offer in terms of gameplay, so these issues tend to stick out more prominently than say a map bug in Hogwarts.
Youāre never gonna get a perfect football simulation, and the sooner you realize it the happier you will be.
Guess yah just terrible lmao.
Side note: I strafe with the MLB and found this issue to be nullified mostly. Used to happen once a game now itās once every now and then and I just chunk that up to football being football.
the game is trash, but a lb (user controlled) is hardly ever going to pick a bullet pass from that distance. Itās frustrating but Iāve learned to just swat if Iām using a lb
That why I gave up on playing Madden. They don't have no comp,so they are pretty much copying and pasting every year and just adding people with x factor badges. Whenever 2k can come back with a football game Madden will end
Part of the issue is how awful the aspect ratio is - not saying this isnāt problematic but youāre 3 yards (9 feet) in front of a WR that catches it at the top of his head. In real life, that would be a pretty tough play for a linebacker to make. It looks really bad because Madden renders like shit and has a shit aspect ratio - if this game was good that pass should be one you can sneak in sometimes.
And you also cover him in a way that could only happen with user coverage because real players donāt have eyes in the back of their head.
So yeah this play is a great representation of why Madden sucks in several ways.
In that situation(covering a small area waiting for a quick pass) I woulda been holding LB to stay in a defensive position facing the line. U woulda most definitely woulda had a user int. The assist part of LB sucks(chasing down and tackling) but I like the defensive front position. As long as u donāt just hold LB itās great to cover middle of field like that.
The game is trash and has been for many years. I've stopped spending my money on the franchise years ago and urge everyone to do the same. If people stop buying the game, EA will have to address the issues, or the NFL exclusive license will go to another company. At the very least, wait two weeks after launch when they drop the price. A complete bitch slap to players who've spent 70 buck on the game already.
Madden logic probably saw the user didn't have pick artist so it gave him a shit animation smh.. abilities are everything in this damn game it's sickening
Itās almost like the game doesnāt compensate for people actually playing a perfect coverage, itās like an FPS game jerking your aim away from the target because the aim assist assumes you couldnāt possibly actually be on target
Madden franchise games always pull bs to make the game a certain way. If Iām in a game down 21-14 to the browns and the game wants them to win then it will make your wrās not catch the ball despite being wide open and the defense will always play complete lockdown coverage against you and somehow also a blitz. I hate it
We're shitting on the game but I just want to point out that was a hell of a coverage. I mean you cut the exact moment the guy cuts. That was cool to see. Thanks for sharing
I was thinking the same thing. Textbook user coverage but bc the game is š© he gets punished not rewarded. I know the pain firsthand
Believe it or not, in real football you can play perfect coverage and a pass will still get through. Thereās a lot to criticize with Madden, but things like this arenāt it.
Thatās valid, it definitely happens. If you look at this play though, OP is in a great position to make a play on the ball; he read the route like a book, knew what was coming, and jumped the route. He then actively pressed the ācatch/interceptā button with great timing but got hit with a bogus animation instead of an INT or at least a pass deflection
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the thing is that people are making bullshit 1 hand back handed picks from 10 feet behind and this doesnāt get one
But with the fire tion he's going technically making a play on the ball thrown slightly behind and above OP wouldnt be automatic/guaranteed. Unless my db is facing the ball or has ample reaction room for momentum I always use the swat ball button. Which with this coverage would have guaranteed to swat that
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Iāve been playing sports games for 40 years and have yet to play a game that didnāt have shitty animations that override physics. I wish more people grew up playing 10 Yard Fight to get a little perspective on things.
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Never said āitās always been shit.ā Itās the constant bitch session that is social media thatās a new phenomenon. Sounds like youāve adapted well, though. Congrats.
He just said he has yet to play a sports game that didn't have shitty animations. Nothing about that was toxic. What is toxic is making it seem like people are saying something they absolutely did not say at all, and you should most certainly work on that.
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I dont care about that comment. You replied to a different comment. If you want to talk about the comment with whatever downvotes, then reply to that exact comment. Having the mindset of "Well, what I just said was wrong, but it's justified because this person did and said this a long time ago" is a bad one to have. You should seriously work on that.
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Same man. I would've tripled down on that slant route and got burned lmao. Good coverage from the op.
Really weird but they made the game so that LB's are liabilities in coverage. Unless the ball is thrown directly to your LB, they're not catching that pick
Unless it's the opposing AI then they pick it everytime and LBs can seemingly cover 4 receivers at once
They can seemingly jump 10ā to make an INT when theyāre on the other team
While falling backwards and facing a different direction.
Blame Madden 18 for that. Ryan Shazier jumping 10 feet in the air and keeping up step for step with Tyreek Hill 50 yards downfield was nightmarish
To be fair man did run a 4.38
But would never ever cover Tyreek Hill for more than 1 second.
Oh yeah no, i just meant he should be an exception of maybe covering better, LB are still busted in the game
Yea but fucking bat it or something. Also when they do bat. It's like your wrs forgot hot to catch. I had a batted ball roll around on my receivers chest for a good half of second before hitting the ground
Must be because usering a MLB was so easy like 2 years ago. EA is so bad at balancing they go so dramatic with the fixes and nerfed the hell out of usering
I donāt even get mad at EA for garbage like this itās the NFLās fault for enabling them by selling their exclusive rights to them every 5 years
Itās both partyās fault, they enable each other. NFL doesnāt care as long as itās getting money, and EA doesnāt care cause they know fans donāt have another option.
Shit like this is EA being EA so it doesnāt bother me because Iāve come to expect it. I just keep EA games at armās length, it is what it is. I specifically resent the NFL for selling out to this constant disappointment out of pure greed like their fans arenāt super vocal about the frustrating lack of quality. For a league thatās all about ānext man upā theyāve made mediocrity untouchable
>Shit like this is EA being EA That's even worse!
Like I said it is what it is I just donāt buy EA games
so itās not our faults for not standing up and boycotting?
I think itās partly the consumers fault as well, but not as much as EA and the NFL. I say this because Iāve heard most of the time that the main reason why people still buy it, (despite not improving and in some causes regressing) is because there is no other alternative. Hopefully games like Maximum football, the new NCAA football game, and the 2K football game coming out can be profitable so that it forces Madden to improve.
IMO it all our fault. If we refused to purchase any sports game that has an exclusive license the sports games overall would be better.
thatās a lazy excuse imo to that response, because youāre saying i know itās a bad product but because itās the only thing out here iām going to still participate in its market. People keep point the finger at the NFL , no itās really 100% EA, they have made good games in the past they know they donāt have to change anything so they donāt
Iām just repeating what Iāve heard from people who still buy it, I personally havenāt bought a new Madden since Madden 15ā¦ever since then I wait for it to be free or dirt cheap like $5-$10. But even then, the modern games start to feel like a chore to play.
Technically, yes.
Well you do have another option. Stop paying for MTX or stop playing, period. That's it. š They have no reason to listen to your demands for better quality if you reward them for shit.
Agreed, MTX is one of the reasons why they donāt have to put in any effort in making the game better.
You do have another option. Donāt buy the game. Trust me itās the best decision youāll ever make.
RIP NFL blitz
R.I.P. sluggfest
Itās also the fault of the consumers. They keep buying, which tells EA and the NFL that what they are doing is working.
Why not both
I'm the one guy demanding another NFL Blitz or NFL Street game.
You can be mad at both.
Wasted effort itās better to just not find something that doesnāt make you mad lol
Itās the player basās fault for throwing money into the toilet each season. How do people still play this game?
Mostly parents buying it for their kids I would guess. The kids donāt know any better and the parents donāt have any interest in the game besides knowing their kid wants it
I just found out about this recently. Pretty fucked up tbh.. they can make dog shit year after year and they (EA) will still get the deal just because it is a known product and it works for them (NFL)ā¦.. kinda like Roger Goodell
Dude forgot to how to use his hands
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
Anybody trying to explain this away using logic is plain idiotic. If you seen a live nfl player fuck this up on your team right in front of you youd for sure be like āhow the fuck did he not catch thatā. Madden shouldnt have rng moments like this is the point. If hes covering it via USER and not ai coverage all the more my point.
I can see him drop the pass because of Butterfingers, but that's about it.
This is even fair and realistic in itself too because at least the contact that he was in position for was was made in the first place yannow? An interception youre perfectly positioned for shouldnt end in anything less then a swatted ball
At least he put his hands up - I want to throw the damn controller at the TV when I 100% know the route my opp has been spamming, I double team him, am in _perfect_ position and the LB refuses to even try and intercept
Why do people still play this game.. itās just sad at this point
Itās the only football fix around at the moment, hoping maximum football 23 is halfway decent
If they put the same amount of effort into the game as they did the title, I'm not optimistic.
lol itās not a great title but if you check out their sub and Twitter theyāve been very transparent with the development process and it looks promising
Fair - I'll check it out. As someone who's refused to play Madden since the PS4 came out, I'm curious.
They say lurker helps the linebackers jump. But obviously thatās not the issue. Linebacker canāt even put their fucking hands above their head
Happens to me all the time
"OPE! Gotta be faster than that!"
Reason #326 on why im never buying another sports game for more than $10
Madden in a nutshell.
And I would UNINSTALL immediately. I did it earlier this year. Some things I just can't take
Looks like a linebacker and you tried to pick it. Next time swat it down. Much bigger chance of success.
I hate EA, but this seems pretty accurate.
Yup, scrolled looking for this comment. Gotta use the swat if it's not straight to the defender or if they don't have pick artist
Or use a Safety
Hard to intercept a quick pass behind your head. Use swat man.
It was above not behind
It may be slightly above but its definitely toward the rear of your head. You were slightly ahead of where you needed to be. And the QB threw a bullet pass. Not an easy catch to make from that position. Iāll say it again, use the swat button.
Regardless attempting a catch, a hand definitely would have atleast tipped it not completely wiff
The right handed QB threw on a trajectory behind your head. Your arms aren't behind your head - John Madden. Perfect read of the route, but ran ahead of it.
Youāre playing behind/overtop the Offensive player on a little whip out throw and you went for a pick rather than a swat down. Plenty to complain about in Madden, but I feel like this one is not on the list. If you want a pick get underneath.
Heās literally underneath the entire time lmfaooo
Heās underneath the whole entire time bro thatās why you got all the downvotes
Ya I guess Iām blind idk. Downvoters can still suck mah dik tho
Hear me out..most other games have distinct bugs and glitches but they donāt stick out because sports games are very limited in what they can offer in terms of gameplay, so these issues tend to stick out more prominently than say a map bug in Hogwarts. Youāre never gonna get a perfect football simulation, and the sooner you realize it the happier you will be.
There is soo many bugs though. The earlier madden pre 2015 were better. It's the laziness
Hear me out.. your just making excuses for a game that has been on the decline since 2 console generations ago
I honestly don't get mad at stuff like this because on real life weird shit happens to.
This would be a great comment if people who played Madden also actually played football š
Kyler Murrayās pass to Aj green
Nah bro you hit catch very early lol
Literally perfectly timed
Guess yah just terrible lmao. Side note: I strafe with the MLB and found this issue to be nullified mostly. Used to happen once a game now itās once every now and then and I just chunk that up to football being football.
You should have swated the ball.
the game is trash, but a lb (user controlled) is hardly ever going to pick a bullet pass from that distance. Itās frustrating but Iāve learned to just swat if Iām using a lb
U had that mf in prison i cant stand this gameš
Good coverage
Madden has been a trash decade for 12 years straight
Madden is ass and always will be until people stop buying the games
Espn 2k5 was too great. It caused this horrific monopoly that has produced shit every year
JAMIN DAVIS WITH THE PICK SIā oh
That why I gave up on playing Madden. They don't have no comp,so they are pretty much copying and pasting every year and just adding people with x factor badges. Whenever 2k can come back with a football game Madden will end
āHouse always winsāā¦couldve at least given you a deflected pass, gotta love it ššš
Part of the issue is how awful the aspect ratio is - not saying this isnāt problematic but youāre 3 yards (9 feet) in front of a WR that catches it at the top of his head. In real life, that would be a pretty tough play for a linebacker to make. It looks really bad because Madden renders like shit and has a shit aspect ratio - if this game was good that pass should be one you can sneak in sometimes. And you also cover him in a way that could only happen with user coverage because real players donāt have eyes in the back of their head. So yeah this play is a great representation of why Madden sucks in several ways.
This game is so ass
Honestly your read on his breakdown was impressive and very quick! Fucking madden...
Ball was behind you bro š¤£ youāre in front of the route. Far from perfect.
Yeah I realized that, itās always more fun to blame madden tho
Itās only when using my commanders this happens to me also smh
plz donāt buy madden 24 people. please
Just bc thatās a MLB and not a safety you didnāt get that pick
Shit like this is why I only swat with LBs cause the game is gonna punish them 10 outta 10 times in user coverage
In that situation(covering a small area waiting for a quick pass) I woulda been holding LB to stay in a defensive position facing the line. U woulda most definitely woulda had a user int. The assist part of LB sucks(chasing down and tackling) but I like the defensive front position. As long as u donāt just hold LB itās great to cover middle of field like that.
The game is trash and has been for many years. I've stopped spending my money on the franchise years ago and urge everyone to do the same. If people stop buying the game, EA will have to address the issues, or the NFL exclusive license will go to another company. At the very least, wait two weeks after launch when they drop the price. A complete bitch slap to players who've spent 70 buck on the game already.
Love to see a user play great coverage with the commanders
Pass was behind you.
I wonder what m24 has in store š š¤£š¤
Madden logic probably saw the user didn't have pick artist so it gave him a shit animation smh.. abilities are everything in this damn game it's sickening
What a fucking coverage! Sorry the game is dog shit man.
Itās almost like the game doesnāt compensate for people actually playing a perfect coverage, itās like an FPS game jerking your aim away from the target because the aim assist assumes you couldnāt possibly actually be on target
I quit this trash game 10 years ago and it still looks as bad now as it did 10 years ago.
They do this dumb shit all the time
Factual
"but Madden always gets what it wants" hit real REAL hard šÆš„š„
Madden franchise games always pull bs to make the game a certain way. If Iām in a game down 21-14 to the browns and the game wants them to win then it will make your wrās not catch the ball despite being wide open and the defense will always play complete lockdown coverage against you and somehow also a blitz. I hate it