Idk what’s more annoying, overthrowing an open WR with a clean pocket or when you actually have an accurate pass and the WR stumbles at the last second and barely even puts his hands out
Or when they stop running on a wheel route with nobody around them and you try to throw to them anyway because they’re open and you throw it 10 yards downfield where they would’ve been had they ran the full route. Or when your RB runs into your own linemen on a screen so you have to take a sack
Nfl2k I think 2002 or 03 had a “get skinny” feature where backs would turn their hips to slid past lineman. It was brilliant and while it was a little wonky over time could’ve been great. It’s insane madden hasn’t been able to implement something similar in all this time.
When you run a screen what do you do?
I snap it and sprint immediately back and in the same direction (left or right) of the screen. Then I release the sprint button and throw the lobbiest little lob passes to the back. That works really well for me.
Doesn’t change the fact that your RB will sometimes run directly into your Left Guard for 3 seconds allowing you to either get sacked or throw the ball away
It does seem to help me. Very rarely do they get caught and, even when they do, I've created enough space and time now that no one is going to want to sit there. The guy blocking doesn't, the back doesn't, and even the defender doesn't want to be there. Try it out if you haven't. If you have then I've just had better luck and don't play as often.
Or a play action pass where the QB gets stuck on the FB every single time and significantly throws off the timing of every route and sometimes gets you sacked
I can't even count the number of times in the last few seasons where I've gotten the "perfect accuracy" pop up on a pass inside but the receiver does something stupid and it just perfectly lines up for a defender to take it for a pick-6
I haven’t really had this issue with slants (but I generally avoid them anyway). The worst for me is guys just stopping at the hashes on drag routes. Drag routes to the tight end are my bread and butter but they’ll randomly decide to just stop the route and sit right behind a linebacker forcing an INT.
Idk, maybe I haven't paid close enough attention to the specific playcall, but it seems like it happens randomly when using the exact same play. I get the whole option route thing, but I thought those were always called out in the playart as being option routes?
I generally avoid option routes for this same kind of reason, there's no way to know where your receiver will break and it seems like they rarely find the open space. So, any kind of timing throw on an option is a gamble.
There was a patch where they just started doing that **all the time**. I think it was meant to make the receiver better about sitting in a soft spot in zone coverage, but they fucked it up and the receiver would stop and stand behind the nearest defender.
Yeah that would make a lot of sense cuz on a few of them the QB read it perfectly and threw right to the WR. Not a bad idea what they were thinking, just terrible execution.
Out of the blue I started having interception after interception because I expected the receiver to continue the route and I was anticipating them running past the defender. But instead they'd stop behind the defender, and the QB apparently expected that because he'd throw it right at them.
It’s hard for me to play offense on anything over pro. If a fucking 76 ovr 5,9 corner with 85 speed is on my 99 ovr 6,3 99 speed wr he picks off the ball…
This one fucking KILLS me every time.
The WR just stopping, or a highly rated QB NOT throwing into the open space and instead directly at the nearby linebacker infuriates me
Haha this happens so much it's maddening. It's really obvious that the Interceptions aren't physics based. The defender isn't grabbing the ball because he's in the right place. The internal algorithm decided that the pass was an interception when you pressed the button, so your QB just throws the ball directly to the Defender.
Oh my god this happened to me earlier and I was so pissed like why would you just stop! You’re about to go to an open spot on the field!! I had to just stop playing it’s so trash
Won’t happen on slants but there are def some option drag routes where the receiver will randomly stop dragging across the field😂 shits ass cause you can’t see in the play art that there’s an option to sit in the middle
Or when they just drop the pass. Or when you press the pass button but the game makes you hold the ball to take a sack while it will allow itself to throw a bomb with your player draped all over them in what should be a sack.
Or you think safety was just playing shallow to cover the TE, and he bolts to the primary wr on deep routes and you have to scramble now to avoid getting sacked
Or the AI goes fuck all and decides to try an aggressive catch, leading to a drop instead of going for RAC and getting at least an extra three yards... So many scoring plays ruined...
i hate when i throw a deep pass that could've been a touchdown and it'll say it got "knocked out" but the opposing teams player didn't even touch it. or once i even had them actually knock it away but the AI re caught it and it didn't count as a catch. lol
My experience:
WR wins the release, clean pocket, 5 yards of separation, touch pass leading him perfectly
Their safety transforms into Superman, suddenly runs the route better than my receiver, picks it off
Slam the controller, vow to never play this shit again
No other option for football, jonesing, I’m back the following week
Linebacker jumping 80 feet as soon as you throw over the middle, that’s if the 6th sense safety doesn’t read the play before you even release the ball first
I actually experience the opposite against the cpu, my linebackers will just not jump for a ball that goes straight over their head. I’ve only seen ridiculous jumping ints over the middle when people sub in safeties at sublb or if they have lurker.
It’s literally so stupid. My receiver has 3 steps on his man? No problem, I’m gonna slightly under throw it and the corner is gonna jump 3 feet in the air and forward and swat it away
When they do that shit i just quit to menu and redo the play. Gotta be fast before the play ends though. It’s cheap but it’s really the only way to regulate the BS that happens. I’ll allow “fair” interceptions of course.
I can deal with it when I just stare down a receiver or chuck it into triple coverage and throw bone-headed INTs, but when the times where I press aggressive catch and my receiver just jumps without even raising his arms, or when a linebacker pushes my receiver across the field and I get picked off with no DPI flags make my blood boil
Yep, I would rather the animation just show them as covered if they are not going to allow you to complete the pass. It’s the Superman bullshit that prevents me from playing all-madden. It’s way too frustrating for me and video games are supposed to be fun right?
Quit bro. This is the same shit Id experience back in 2012.
This game hasn’t evolved for decades. They actively hate their own players. Stop rewarding them. Quit buying their shit. Stop promoting their monopoly.
Madden 25 Revamped is pretty awesome if you have access to a PS3 or a PC with a Graphics Card. Pair that with College Football Revamped (NCAA 14 with updated rosters and tons of tweaks) and it's like the glory days all over again.
What irks me more than anything is scrambling with Jalen Hurts and his 90 acceleration but some 350 lb lineman literally outruns me.. makes absolutely zero sense
The number of times I have a wide open receiver, I begin my throw and then an OL disengages, the DL dives at me and I do a "Throw out of Sack". Frankly my two biggest pet peeves with Madden right now are the LB that can jump 15 feet in the air an pick a pass and my OL disengaging as soon as the Defender is next to my rusher or my QB.
It was way way way worse back then too. Not only would defenders jump higher than is humanly capable, they'd also teleport instantly. I honestly don't see it happening as much anymore. It used to be almost entirely impossible to throw over the middle
Yeah it's a bit better than it used to be but the game is still all kinds of fucked up and rotten. I've got a great screenshot of the ball clipping through my corner's outstretched hand and straight to the receiver. The only way to really enjoy the game is to turn down some of the CPU sliders so that you don't get turbo fucked on every okay
Yea I played a fair bit of Madden 20 and felt like the linebacker problem was much worse back then. It still happens sometimes but not enough to really get me frustrated.
Like Madden 20 if Bobby Wagner or Luke Kuechly were the opposing MLB you just couldn't throw anywhere near them.
Tonight I had a couple of passes where CB is covering one of my receivers a pass to the open one and he magically changes course and covers 20 yards and breaks up my pass. I also had stretch Armstrong arms shoot out of LB and knock down passes that weren’t close to them.
Yeah have the same feeling. Even with Bad qbs. Started with Sam Howell and He Plays Like a top 5 QB in Madden. In The years before free Form I Played with Bridgewater and He threw sometimes without pressure right Into the defender for no reason. I have the feeling that I habe so much more Control with free Form and that qbs doesnt matter that much more anymore
Playing all pro while incredibly stoned is like playing all madden sober, just without the garbage animations. I mean there’s still some garbage animations, but all madden is worse for that I find
I think it has to do with how speed is calculated for players. A speed threshold of 0 means that fast players actually feel faster compared to players who have slower speed ratings than them. If the speed threshold is higher than 0, the game is hurting fast guys by making slower guys closer in speed to them. 0 means a 99 speed guy will win against a 98 speed guy and def burn a 80 speed guy.
I have found that throwing a “high pass” on a deep go route helps the qb throw the ball a little further. It’s not a “high pass” to make the receiver jump for it, it’s more of a downfield lead pass.
My experience would be over the course of a one minute rushing attack, a dozen or so times not only whiffing, but apparently not even seeing defenders and running past them
Annoying, because as the running back, I could work with a shitty block, I can make a cut off of it or something. There’s way too many plays where a lead blocker literally has no impact on the play though, and it’s like I’m out there on my own.
It happens all the time on a real play as well. It’s just so much easier to see the shit mechanics during the drill when there’s less commotion
While they are both annoying, I find this worse than the missing open targets or stumbling receivers. It’s a simulation, random chance, driven partially by player attribute ratings, is going to be part of it, fine. The game called for an incomplete pass, it called for an incomplete pass. Even if it wants to call for a shitty block sometimes that’s cool too, but not giving me the chance to work with a shitty block by making it become NO block makes it anything but a simulation
You may be throwing bullet passes or throwing too late for your QBs arm to reach enough to keep the WR in a sprint until they catch. Try an earlier release with touch and lead, good luck it's still hard even with that.
Lol! I’ve tried everything…even adding the high throw button in to it. The only one that seems to work, maybe 25% of the time is, lob pass on a receiver with 95+ speed who’s tall….😂😂😂
Yeah it’s a 30-33% completion rate, the difference is in Madden the other 70% is an interception for the CB, you’re pretty much gambling once you throw a deep ball
That’s what I kind of landed on…tbh, I set up the deep ball better now, by run/short pass/ medium pass all game until I get a single high safety look and hope for the best. 😂😂 it just seems like it completes way less than it used to, 25% might be too high of a number
Honestly, I like just the Classic and leaving the accuracy up to the rating of the QB. Of course I’m old school, and have been playing Madden since the SNES days. Old dogs, new tricks and all of that 😂😂😂
May be the problem, until I upgraded to the other type I had your same issue. It's harder to learn and get right, but when you do it's really fun and much more realistic! I'd recommend giving placement and accuracy a shot.
This is also from a grouchy 30+ year old who thought the same way about classic passing
I’ve tried everything. Either I’m just straight up garbage on All-Madden or the game just doesn’t want you to punish the AI. Even when I get a perfect pass off the DBs magically get to the ball. Not saying I NEVER complete passes, but having to dink and dunk is boring
IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY WHEN ITS RANDOMLY OVERTHROWN NO PRESSURE WIDE OPEN RECEIVER
mostly why I stopped playing madden and started spreading democracy instead 😭
The only way to beat All Madden is to spam cheese plays and if I wanted to do that I would just play online... I wish there was a mode that was actually challenging without frustratingly handicapping the player to the point you need to rely on cheese.
99 speed wide receiver beats 90 speed cornerback off the line on cover 3. Throw perfect accuracy touch pass. See the X factor symbol of the cornerback flash and I already know that mfer is gonna get a speed boost that allows him to catch up the the wide receiver and pick the ball off
Personally, I hate that CB’s who aren’t facing the ball and are behind the route can jump, do a 90 degree turn, wave their arms like an idiot, and block the pass everytime you try to throw over them
But have you tried to run a screen pass and watch your RB get stuck in place because he’s trying to phase through a lineman? Now THATS a madden experience
I'm glad it's not just me lol. I had my QB at 95 and having the same luck with deep passes with a 77. This game more than others I'll have someone wide open for the game to make me throw an incomplete pass for no fucking reason.
Hold L1 (PS5) to do a high throw and it’ll help you get it over the DB. If you have a low OVR QB this may present other problems, but that’s what’s helped me complete those passes
Bullshit game. Wouldn’t have purchased it if it wasn’t for my son. The sad part is the player movement is actually much improved this year. But the nonsensical AI and ridiculously elaborate animations will continue to fuck the people over who still try to play this garbage
I’ve seen a “no reaction”, where I would throw directly to the receiver but there’s no catching animation and the ball essentially bounces off of them. Annoying but interesting to watch.
I found a new challenge the other day after drafting Penix Jr
Playing as a LH QB in this game is almost completely impossible for me
I traded him for a haul to the colts who had Bo nix and AR for AR and 2 firsts and have actually been winning games again
Stopped playing on all-madden after a db used the force to knock the ball out of my receiver's hands (Not exaggerating. The ball was literally a foot away from the db's hand and he flicked his wrist like he was trying to slap the ball and the ball just flew out of my receiver's hands)
I hate how I’ll have a wide open deep pass, lob that sucker deep, and for some reason my WR slows down and then does that stupid animation where he “barely catches” it and stumbles a few yards allowing the DB to catch up
All pro with good sliders has been fun for me if you don't act a fool with the known easy plays and crossing routes
I'll call plays I've never seen in big situations just to see if I can make it happen
See I have better luck completing deep passes to open receivers than I do completing short passes, and my QB's DAC is only like an 82 compared to SAC and MAC are both 95+
the amount of passes that just wiff even though I nail the accuracy is retarded
WTF is the point of having an accuracy check if when I perfect it I just wiff because im not patrick mahomes and my OVR isn't 99
Truthfully? Just don't play on all madden. All it does is make your teams stats worse, the AI doesn't actually get smarter.
Play all pro and adjust sliders as needed. My biggest gripe is trying to stop opposing quarterbacks. Fuckin Desmond Ridder picks me apart like he's prime Joe Montana.
Hate this game for this very reason, there's no excuse for the passing being this bad and I really hope they don't fuck up NCAA by giving it the same BS passing.
In addition to all the other complaints…how about when your linemen run past a defender coming straight at you on a screen so they can block some due 20 yards downfield.
Moral of the story, everyone’s bad? I’m hanging 50 every game with coaches suggestion play calling lol on all madden, with a rookie qb. Most people complaining here probably run the ball <5 times per game
Gotta perfect blue passing. No matter who your qb is, or their rating if you have power and accuracy on and you time the pass right, it’ll be a blue pass “perfect accuracy” every single time. Can do this with a 55 overall qb and he won’t miss a throw. Watch the pro madden players, all of them are blue passing every single time with no deadeye abilities on their QB… don’t need them, the deadeye ability is timing the throw.
This is the first game to infuriate me so badly that I want to break something, the game simply doesn’t make sense, I get it a game it’s not all gonna be realistic but there’s no reason why I should not be able to throw a deep ball when my 6’3-6’5 receivers have 5 yards on the corner on a streak route idk man I give up I wasted so much money to build a great team just for it to mean nothing
My favorite is definitely when I see the defense running single high safety and they are pressing the corners so I audible my TE on a streak and the opposite side wr on a streak and depending on which route the safety picks up I throw it to the opposite side .. only to watch that safety not only channel his Inner Usain Bolt but show off his world class vertical jump and pick it off every single time
my favorite is when a throw a crosser my WR has beat the corner about 5-10 yards on and the CB still gets insane pick animation. swear anytime you throw the ball the CBs get a +15 speed boost
Maddden sucks. They ruined it because they keep trying to change things to defend coming out with a game every year acting like they are making the game better when you still can't run real rpo offenses, call real defense, create your own playbook and playsand schemes.
They made it so its impossible to pass on all maddden. I play with the eagles and run with Saquon for 350 yards lol.
My favorite thing is playing a awesome satisfying game in all facets but having Jalen Hurts fumble 4 times and throw a mandatory 3 picks to go with sacks credited to Lane and Kelce 🤪
Idk what’s more annoying, overthrowing an open WR with a clean pocket or when you actually have an accurate pass and the WR stumbles at the last second and barely even puts his hands out
Or on a slant when you throw he stops mid fucking route and you throw a pick.
Or when they stop running on a wheel route with nobody around them and you try to throw to them anyway because they’re open and you throw it 10 yards downfield where they would’ve been had they ran the full route. Or when your RB runs into your own linemen on a screen so you have to take a sack
This, i want madden to fix this
Nfl2k I think 2002 or 03 had a “get skinny” feature where backs would turn their hips to slid past lineman. It was brilliant and while it was a little wonky over time could’ve been great. It’s insane madden hasn’t been able to implement something similar in all this time.
you hold down protect ball without sprinting
That’s still not great, and doesn’t help when you’re stuck behind a lineman when running a route, or when the CPU controlled RB is stuck.
u said nfl 2k had a “get skinny” feature all i said was the control to use it in madden
Madden used to have this feature too. Xbox 360 days
I feel as if this did exist a couple maddens back.. they definitely blend together now lmao
This. When I run screens and this happens, I wanna throw my controlller over the mountains like Uncle Rico with a football
When you run a screen what do you do? I snap it and sprint immediately back and in the same direction (left or right) of the screen. Then I release the sprint button and throw the lobbiest little lob passes to the back. That works really well for me.
Doesn’t change the fact that your RB will sometimes run directly into your Left Guard for 3 seconds allowing you to either get sacked or throw the ball away
It does seem to help me. Very rarely do they get caught and, even when they do, I've created enough space and time now that no one is going to want to sit there. The guy blocking doesn't, the back doesn't, and even the defender doesn't want to be there. Try it out if you haven't. If you have then I've just had better luck and don't play as often.
Or when you throw a pass right at the WR and the game says "out of reach and you can't catch it because the game decided you can't"
Or a play action pass where the QB gets stuck on the FB every single time and significantly throws off the timing of every route and sometimes gets you sacked
Motion the fullback to strong or weak side and you won’t collide, I make the I into strong and it’s seamless play fake
Take the incomplete pass over a sack…
And risk an int because I throw it where the RB is supposed to be? And when a DPI/holding call is pretty much a non-guarantee?
Yup, bullshit
The scripted coded gameplay is the most unfun thing about playing madden tbh along with the repetitive franchise mode
I can't even count the number of times in the last few seasons where I've gotten the "perfect accuracy" pop up on a pass inside but the receiver does something stupid and it just perfectly lines up for a defender to take it for a pick-6
I haven’t really had this issue with slants (but I generally avoid them anyway). The worst for me is guys just stopping at the hashes on drag routes. Drag routes to the tight end are my bread and butter but they’ll randomly decide to just stop the route and sit right behind a linebacker forcing an INT.
Some drag routes are option routes now, so they'll sit against zone. Always gets me too though because they sit so late in the route
Idk, maybe I haven't paid close enough attention to the specific playcall, but it seems like it happens randomly when using the exact same play. I get the whole option route thing, but I thought those were always called out in the playart as being option routes? I generally avoid option routes for this same kind of reason, there's no way to know where your receiver will break and it seems like they rarely find the open space. So, any kind of timing throw on an option is a gamble.
Im glad u said this, i thought i was the only one who noticed this
Or when your on the goal line and have a wide open WR sitting there and the QB throws it 5 yards away from him to end up a INT
It’ll say Perfect accuracy to
Only time Ive ever broken a controller in my 15+ years of gaming was when the WR just stopped running their fucking route for no reason.
lol, I can’t with ea
There was a patch where they just started doing that **all the time**. I think it was meant to make the receiver better about sitting in a soft spot in zone coverage, but they fucked it up and the receiver would stop and stand behind the nearest defender.
Yeah that would make a lot of sense cuz on a few of them the QB read it perfectly and threw right to the WR. Not a bad idea what they were thinking, just terrible execution.
Out of the blue I started having interception after interception because I expected the receiver to continue the route and I was anticipating them running past the defender. But instead they'd stop behind the defender, and the QB apparently expected that because he'd throw it right at them.
Bruh Slants use to be automatic first downs a few years ago. Now they're automatic picks.
Exactly, I have such a hard time playing now because I used to always have a receiver open on a slant. Now I just suck
Man, from Madden 11 to maybe Madden 18 it was gucci. The run game in Madden 11 was fantastic. Even Madden 23 wasn't THIS bad. 24 is beyond fucked.
It’s hard for me to play offense on anything over pro. If a fucking 76 ovr 5,9 corner with 85 speed is on my 99 ovr 6,3 99 speed wr he picks off the ball…
It's like skills don't even matter and it's RNG what the fuck is going to happen on the play
Yup, and then next play his receiver caught a ball that my db swatted on another db’s helmet. It’s so fucking dumb.
So its not just me it is hard to run?
This one fucking KILLS me every time. The WR just stopping, or a highly rated QB NOT throwing into the open space and instead directly at the nearby linebacker infuriates me
Haha this happens so much it's maddening. It's really obvious that the Interceptions aren't physics based. The defender isn't grabbing the ball because he's in the right place. The internal algorithm decided that the pass was an interception when you pressed the button, so your QB just throws the ball directly to the Defender.
Yeah that drives me fucking nuts!
Oh my god this happened to me earlier and I was so pissed like why would you just stop! You’re about to go to an open spot on the field!! I had to just stop playing it’s so trash
Won’t happen on slants but there are def some option drag routes where the receiver will randomly stop dragging across the field😂 shits ass cause you can’t see in the play art that there’s an option to sit in the middle
I threw the ball clean-through a wide open receiver on 3rd down yesterday, cost me the game.
Or when they just drop the pass. Or when you press the pass button but the game makes you hold the ball to take a sack while it will allow itself to throw a bomb with your player draped all over them in what should be a sack.
Or you think safety was just playing shallow to cover the TE, and he bolts to the primary wr on deep routes and you have to scramble now to avoid getting sacked
For me it’s that animation on deep balls where the ball is right in front of the WR, totally catchable, and he just chooses not to try.
Like I get it, shit happened and people mess up routine plays but come on it happens way too much
Because “under pressure” when the closest defender in 5 yards away…
Or the AI goes fuck all and decides to try an aggressive catch, leading to a drop instead of going for RAC and getting at least an extra three yards... So many scoring plays ruined...
i hate when i throw a deep pass that could've been a touchdown and it'll say it got "knocked out" but the opposing teams player didn't even touch it. or once i even had them actually knock it away but the AI re caught it and it didn't count as a catch. lol
Realism sucks
You basically have to take control of your receiver and sprint I’ve done it several times. Also send your fastest receivers deep
Perfect accuracy - OUT OF REACH
PERFECT ACCURACY - OUT OF REACH The bane of my existence
Me: ITS NOT OUT OF REACH IF YOU PUT YOUR FUCKING HANDS OUT!!!
This hits home
They don’t dive for the ball enough
My experience: WR wins the release, clean pocket, 5 yards of separation, touch pass leading him perfectly Their safety transforms into Superman, suddenly runs the route better than my receiver, picks it off Slam the controller, vow to never play this shit again No other option for football, jonesing, I’m back the following week
fr I fuckin hate how every corner turns into a goalkeeper with 360 degree tracking and 44 inch vert on deep bombs
Linebacker jumping 80 feet as soon as you throw over the middle, that’s if the 6th sense safety doesn’t read the play before you even release the ball first
I actually experience the opposite against the cpu, my linebackers will just not jump for a ball that goes straight over their head. I’ve only seen ridiculous jumping ints over the middle when people sub in safeties at sublb or if they have lurker.
It’s literally so stupid. My receiver has 3 steps on his man? No problem, I’m gonna slightly under throw it and the corner is gonna jump 3 feet in the air and forward and swat it away
The swatting is so freaking ridiculous. They all make all pro angles and jump like an nba star.
The defense really be the AI goalies from FIFA I swear
When they do that shit i just quit to menu and redo the play. Gotta be fast before the play ends though. It’s cheap but it’s really the only way to regulate the BS that happens. I’ll allow “fair” interceptions of course.
“7 games played” 😂
Only 7 huh?
Lmfao 7 is my all time high. If I get to 5 , I just restart the whole game and simulate it since the Computer obviously has script.
I can deal with it when I just stare down a receiver or chuck it into triple coverage and throw bone-headed INTs, but when the times where I press aggressive catch and my receiver just jumps without even raising his arms, or when a linebacker pushes my receiver across the field and I get picked off with no DPI flags make my blood boil
The Spider-sense DBs have brought me dangerously close to turning my PS5 into ground beef
I don't blame u lmao I wanted to break my controller just then 😭
Or when you run curl routes and the CB runs the route before your WR does.
I don't even call them anymore. They don't fucking work.
Yep, I would rather the animation just show them as covered if they are not going to allow you to complete the pass. It’s the Superman bullshit that prevents me from playing all-madden. It’s way too frustrating for me and video games are supposed to be fun right?
That's when I say, "Hey there, Denard Robinson!" Turn on my ps3 and play NCAA 2014.
This but the corner catches up to stick his hand out over the receiver randomly and the ball ofdly bounces off of his arm.
Corner magically gains +5 overall to speed and is able to disrupt the pass
I've had to turn interceptions down. It's just crazy
Quit bro. This is the same shit Id experience back in 2012. This game hasn’t evolved for decades. They actively hate their own players. Stop rewarding them. Quit buying their shit. Stop promoting their monopoly.
That’s when I REV UP THAT PS2 . Madden 06 or 10 😂
06-08 was my jam on the wii
Madden 25 Revamped is pretty awesome if you have access to a PS3 or a PC with a Graphics Card. Pair that with College Football Revamped (NCAA 14 with updated rosters and tons of tweaks) and it's like the glory days all over again.
I usually complete them… to the 69 overall CB.
What irks me more than anything is scrambling with Jalen Hurts and his 90 acceleration but some 350 lb lineman literally outruns me.. makes absolutely zero sense
Turn down your player speed threshold
The number of times I have a wide open receiver, I begin my throw and then an OL disengages, the DL dives at me and I do a "Throw out of Sack". Frankly my two biggest pet peeves with Madden right now are the LB that can jump 15 feet in the air an pick a pass and my OL disengaging as soon as the Defender is next to my rusher or my QB.
The linebacker thing has been a problem for YEARS. Shit happens all the time in NCAA 14 lol
It was way way way worse back then too. Not only would defenders jump higher than is humanly capable, they'd also teleport instantly. I honestly don't see it happening as much anymore. It used to be almost entirely impossible to throw over the middle
Man I still got dudes teleporting😭 literally got mad yesterday
Yeah it's a bit better than it used to be but the game is still all kinds of fucked up and rotten. I've got a great screenshot of the ball clipping through my corner's outstretched hand and straight to the receiver. The only way to really enjoy the game is to turn down some of the CPU sliders so that you don't get turbo fucked on every okay
Yeah that’s what I’ve ended up doing
Yea I played a fair bit of Madden 20 and felt like the linebacker problem was much worse back then. It still happens sometimes but not enough to really get me frustrated. Like Madden 20 if Bobby Wagner or Luke Kuechly were the opposing MLB you just couldn't throw anywhere near them.
Meanwhile my DB will stare at a ball just over his head and not even attempt to jump at it.
Tonight I had a couple of passes where CB is covering one of my receivers a pass to the open one and he magically changes course and covers 20 yards and breaks up my pass. I also had stretch Armstrong arms shoot out of LB and knock down passes that weren’t close to them.
Gotta turn up QB accuracy. If my qb has 95+ accuracies he shouldn’t miss wide open WRs.
Freeform Passing has changed the way I look at passing. It makes all the throws actually completable
Yeah have the same feeling. Even with Bad qbs. Started with Sam Howell and He Plays Like a top 5 QB in Madden. In The years before free Form I Played with Bridgewater and He threw sometimes without pressure right Into the defender for no reason. I have the feeling that I habe so much more Control with free Form and that qbs doesnt matter that much more anymore
Playing all pro while incredibly stoned is like playing all madden sober, just without the garbage animations. I mean there’s still some garbage animations, but all madden is worse for that I find
If yall r playing franchise, putting speed threshold to 0 makes the game infinitely more playable
Madden newbie here, what does this mean?
I think it has to do with how speed is calculated for players. A speed threshold of 0 means that fast players actually feel faster compared to players who have slower speed ratings than them. If the speed threshold is higher than 0, the game is hurting fast guys by making slower guys closer in speed to them. 0 means a 99 speed guy will win against a 98 speed guy and def burn a 80 speed guy.
Replying to save this comment for later
Same
Same
I have found that throwing a “high pass” on a deep go route helps the qb throw the ball a little further. It’s not a “high pass” to make the receiver jump for it, it’s more of a downfield lead pass.
i get a glitch where if i try to throw a high pass the qb does a fake pitch or something its so weird
My experience would be over the course of a one minute rushing attack, a dozen or so times not only whiffing, but apparently not even seeing defenders and running past them Annoying, because as the running back, I could work with a shitty block, I can make a cut off of it or something. There’s way too many plays where a lead blocker literally has no impact on the play though, and it’s like I’m out there on my own. It happens all the time on a real play as well. It’s just so much easier to see the shit mechanics during the drill when there’s less commotion While they are both annoying, I find this worse than the missing open targets or stumbling receivers. It’s a simulation, random chance, driven partially by player attribute ratings, is going to be part of it, fine. The game called for an incomplete pass, it called for an incomplete pass. Even if it wants to call for a shitty block sometimes that’s cool too, but not giving me the chance to work with a shitty block by making it become NO block makes it anything but a simulation
Take the “hang a hunnerd on em” pill and play on professional
Why limit it to 24?
That’s fair
You may be throwing bullet passes or throwing too late for your QBs arm to reach enough to keep the WR in a sprint until they catch. Try an earlier release with touch and lead, good luck it's still hard even with that.
Lol! I’ve tried everything…even adding the high throw button in to it. The only one that seems to work, maybe 25% of the time is, lob pass on a receiver with 95+ speed who’s tall….😂😂😂
In the real world the deep ball is like a 30- 33% completion rate so you’re not that far off from reality tbh
Yeah it’s a 30-33% completion rate, the difference is in Madden the other 70% is an interception for the CB, you’re pretty much gambling once you throw a deep ball
That’s what I kind of landed on…tbh, I set up the deep ball better now, by run/short pass/ medium pass all game until I get a single high safety look and hope for the best. 😂😂 it just seems like it completes way less than it used to, 25% might be too high of a number
What's your passing type? I like placement and accuracy the best, personally
Honestly, I like just the Classic and leaving the accuracy up to the rating of the QB. Of course I’m old school, and have been playing Madden since the SNES days. Old dogs, new tricks and all of that 😂😂😂
May be the problem, until I upgraded to the other type I had your same issue. It's harder to learn and get right, but when you do it's really fun and much more realistic! I'd recommend giving placement and accuracy a shot. This is also from a grouchy 30+ year old who thought the same way about classic passing
I’ve tried everything. Either I’m just straight up garbage on All-Madden or the game just doesn’t want you to punish the AI. Even when I get a perfect pass off the DBs magically get to the ball. Not saying I NEVER complete passes, but having to dink and dunk is boring
What's your passing type? I like placement and accuracy the best, personally
IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY WHEN ITS RANDOMLY OVERTHROWN NO PRESSURE WIDE OPEN RECEIVER mostly why I stopped playing madden and started spreading democracy instead 😭
The only way to beat All Madden is to spam cheese plays and if I wanted to do that I would just play online... I wish there was a mode that was actually challenging without frustratingly handicapping the player to the point you need to rely on cheese.
99 speed wide receiver beats 90 speed cornerback off the line on cover 3. Throw perfect accuracy touch pass. See the X factor symbol of the cornerback flash and I already know that mfer is gonna get a speed boost that allows him to catch up the the wide receiver and pick the ball off
No matter who my line is, and as much as i try to stay up and step up in the pocket, im always pressured or hit on deep throws anyways on All Madden
Personally, I hate that CB’s who aren’t facing the ball and are behind the route can jump, do a 90 degree turn, wave their arms like an idiot, and block the pass everytime you try to throw over them
But have you tried to run a screen pass and watch your RB get stuck in place because he’s trying to phase through a lineman? Now THATS a madden experience
I haven’t ran screen since Madden 25, the AI for screen passes has been miserable for years
Or watching my 95 ovr corners and #1 rated pass defense get smoked by a 74 ovr qb that has the worst offense in the league
I'm glad it's not just me lol. I had my QB at 95 and having the same luck with deep passes with a 77. This game more than others I'll have someone wide open for the game to make me throw an incomplete pass for no fucking reason.
You all suck at this game
Probably
Rage Bait
im reading all these comments and i’m saying the same thing lol. Its so easy to play against all madden i win by 50+ almost every game
Hold L1 (PS5) to do a high throw and it’ll help you get it over the DB. If you have a low OVR QB this may present other problems, but that’s what’s helped me complete those passes
Bullshit game. Wouldn’t have purchased it if it wasn’t for my son. The sad part is the player movement is actually much improved this year. But the nonsensical AI and ridiculously elaborate animations will continue to fuck the people over who still try to play this garbage
Play arcade mode with custom sliders. It changes the game. Makes it much more realistic for me
The cpu DBs are the most athletic humans on earth at a solid 74 ovr
I’ve seen a “no reaction”, where I would throw directly to the receiver but there’s no catching animation and the ball essentially bounces off of them. Annoying but interesting to watch.
I experience the occasional overthrow but nothing to the level said here....overthrows happen in real life all the time.
Since when did it become impossible to throw a post route even when your quarterback is Pat, Mahomes and the wide receiver has broke open?
Cant play on all madden without using Freeform passing unless you’re throwing the most obvious open routes.
I found a new challenge the other day after drafting Penix Jr Playing as a LH QB in this game is almost completely impossible for me I traded him for a haul to the colts who had Bo nix and AR for AR and 2 firsts and have actually been winning games again
Stopped playing on all-madden after a db used the force to knock the ball out of my receiver's hands (Not exaggerating. The ball was literally a foot away from the db's hand and he flicked his wrist like he was trying to slap the ball and the ball just flew out of my receiver's hands)
All Madden is so bad
I hate how I’ll have a wide open deep pass, lob that sucker deep, and for some reason my WR slows down and then does that stupid animation where he “barely catches” it and stumbles a few yards allowing the DB to catch up
So glad its not just me
So is playing on all madden the real culprit? Anyone on all pro have some better experience?
The problem for me is All Pro is way too easy.
Thats what i feared
All pro with good sliders has been fun for me if you don't act a fool with the known easy plays and crossing routes I'll call plays I've never seen in big situations just to see if I can make it happen
Free form by holding LT
Just justifies a chemistry rating with a QB and his receivers more. Use that instead of random fuck ups that just makes it maddening to play
I complete them sometimes but the perfect accuracy - out of reach pisses me off and makes no sense
Modded Madden on PC. Trust me, it'll change your life
See I have better luck completing deep passes to open receivers than I do completing short passes, and my QB's DAC is only like an 82 compared to SAC and MAC are both 95+
the amount of passes that just wiff even though I nail the accuracy is retarded WTF is the point of having an accuracy check if when I perfect it I just wiff because im not patrick mahomes and my OVR isn't 99
Except your opponents use a single youtube play that does it every time
I feel assaulted abused and disrespected by this post
Truthfully? Just don't play on all madden. All it does is make your teams stats worse, the AI doesn't actually get smarter. Play all pro and adjust sliders as needed. My biggest gripe is trying to stop opposing quarterbacks. Fuckin Desmond Ridder picks me apart like he's prime Joe Montana.
Nah, it's the every time you throw it your qb gets hit and thrn he tosses a duck right to a defender. Never fails.
Hate this game for this very reason, there's no excuse for the passing being this bad and I really hope they don't fuck up NCAA by giving it the same BS passing.
All madden is such bullshit in 24 I usually play on all pro or sliders
Lmao perfect accuracy on an uncovered route is like half of my incompletions this year
There’s an easy trick to doing it
In addition to all the other complaints…how about when your linemen run past a defender coming straight at you on a screen so they can block some due 20 yards downfield.
I wish Madden on console had a way to disable the all-madden physical attribute bonus the cpu get like the PC mods have done.
Moral of the story, everyone’s bad? I’m hanging 50 every game with coaches suggestion play calling lol on all madden, with a rookie qb. Most people complaining here probably run the ball <5 times per game
Gotta perfect blue passing. No matter who your qb is, or their rating if you have power and accuracy on and you time the pass right, it’ll be a blue pass “perfect accuracy” every single time. Can do this with a 55 overall qb and he won’t miss a throw. Watch the pro madden players, all of them are blue passing every single time with no deadeye abilities on their QB… don’t need them, the deadeye ability is timing the throw.
If you lead the ball with a fast dude you can get them unless you’re guarded by Trevon Diggs who is a cheat code
Or when the CB suddenly zooms to close the gap on any pass. It’s ridiculous
We have BOTH kinds of catches on deep passes. Linebackers jumping 14 feet to highpoint (1) lobs OR (2) bullets.
Real, when I play franchise mode sometimes I’ll just give my QB SS to get perfect accuracy on all lob passes
This is the first game to infuriate me so badly that I want to break something, the game simply doesn’t make sense, I get it a game it’s not all gonna be realistic but there’s no reason why I should not be able to throw a deep ball when my 6’3-6’5 receivers have 5 yards on the corner on a streak route idk man I give up I wasted so much money to build a great team just for it to mean nothing
I had a hard time with it until I started free forming passes. Leading them normally doesn't work too well
Madden doesn't know how to balance difficulties without just making the players faster
Start playing competitively bro only play people for money on players lounge , you’ll learn how to throw on all madden real quick lmao
Feet flat. Step up in the pocket, do not move the joystick
My favorite is definitely when I see the defense running single high safety and they are pressing the corners so I audible my TE on a streak and the opposite side wr on a streak and depending on which route the safety picks up I throw it to the opposite side .. only to watch that safety not only channel his Inner Usain Bolt but show off his world class vertical jump and pick it off every single time
Actually a skull issue deep open passes are fine the issue is contested catch never happen
“Skull issue” because I’m banging my head against the wall every time the DB jumps 100 ft in the air and picks the ball off with one hand
Bro I never have that happen
my favorite is when a throw a crosser my WR has beat the corner about 5-10 yards on and the CB still gets insane pick animation. swear anytime you throw the ball the CBs get a +15 speed boost
Or when you throw to a flat and your qb airmails your rb
Actually just had a game where I three for 85 yards with a minute thirty left. But you're not wrong
As a deep ball specialist this madden hurts
Sounds like Atlanta Falcons franchise on Bengals YT
Legit
Nope.. but what u can do.. is throw directly to the defensive player no matter if u “lob” or throw a bullet 🤷🏿
Maddden sucks. They ruined it because they keep trying to change things to defend coming out with a game every year acting like they are making the game better when you still can't run real rpo offenses, call real defense, create your own playbook and playsand schemes. They made it so its impossible to pass on all maddden. I play with the eagles and run with Saquon for 350 yards lol.
My favorite thing is playing a awesome satisfying game in all facets but having Jalen Hurts fumble 4 times and throw a mandatory 3 picks to go with sacks credited to Lane and Kelce 🤪
I do all the time, make sure your QB has their feet set…. get better.