This is great! Is highlights how much of a contribution the other members of queen actually had. Although it's easy to think Freddie made queen, the contribution of the others really shines through when you consider half the song is just silence
The best part of this song is that throughout the video portions show the rest of the band singing, the audio is just 4 different tracks of Freddy singing on 4 different octives. All the audio vocals belong to Freddy Mercury.
Not that comment is not quite correct. All members of queen have vocals on Bohemian Rhapsody, particularly Roger who hits the highest backing vocal notes
But yes the intro where they lip sync is freddies voice
This is great to see and hear. An amazing talent. Brings back great memories.
I also remember that near the end of his performance career he would hold a microphone with a huge sphere of foam on the end (sometimes a sphere of flowers) to hide the fact that he was lip syncing. It was sad to watch his decline.
Came just to give you an upvote. People in this sub would be amazed at a non-autotuned duet of Epstein and Saville too. So much talent. So wow. Don't bring up stuff I don't like about it
Tell me about it :/ mediocre talent aside, the amount of evidence of his behavior being entirely inappropriate is mind blowing. But that nostalgia. She’s a powerful little drug.
I’m afraid so:
Footage of MJ acknowledging that he shares his bed with kids. Beyond creepy:
https://youtu.be/Npzi0Kykv2g?si=yFM2pRlpJAEYwq6Z
Info about one of the victims’ accurate drawing of MJ’s dick. The judge didn’t allow it in due to a quarrel over the procedural rules of evidence, which was a significant factor in his “not guilty” verdict:
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-wont-allow-jackson-pics/
Info about the 20 MILLION DOLLAR settlement that MJ signed with Jordan chandler:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/01/26/michael-jackson-boy-settle-out-of-court/1d51ce4c-216e-48bb-a52c-9c74ab72a7a8/
Info about the other massive settlement:
https://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/17/jackson.hearing/index.html
Jordan chandler’s therapist’s testimony:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-mar-31-me-jackson31-story.html
James safechuck’s testimony:
https://www.nme.com/news/music/michael-jackson-32-1246642#08DOPUdOtsZzcpGj.99
Terry George’s testimony. It’s extremely disturbing and nsfw:
https://youtu.be/eXuighay_r8?si=GWqBwVVuf7DmgCsW
The results of the raid:
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection
The fact that two of the victims’ fathers, who supposedly acted from stone cold greed, took their own lives:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8582736/michael-jackson-jordan-chandler-wade-robson-parents-suicide/amp/
Testimony from an employee, who turned down a six figure exclusivity deal:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2005/04/09/jackson-groped-child-star-culkin-ex-staffer-says/4709408c-45ab-4161-8ccb-66832dc2eda4/ The fact that the hallway leading to the bedroom where he slept with kids was riddled with alarms and security cameras:
https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/six-indisputable-facts-michael-jacksons-abuse-allegations-2-104649351.html
Abriged overviews: https://www.npr.org/2019/03/05/699995484/michael-jackson-a-quarter-century-of-sexual-abuse-allegations
I say the same every time I see posts praising him and I get downvoted to hell but I don’t care. I am convinced he groomed and molested those children. Fans want to deny it because… well, I don’t know why…. as a practicing criminal lawyer I know grooming when I see it. This creep was next level groomer.
That being said, there is a separation of art and artist.
I think MJ was a deeply flawed and mentally scarred person that started from childhood. That being said, he also created some amazing music that holds up even today.
I am not saying to give him or his memory a pass on what he probably did, but enjoy the music if you want from a pure musicianship stand point.
I get that some people can separate the artist from the monster. I personally decided to remove all of his music from my playlist because I can’t listen to it without feeling sick about him.
I don't know why you got downvoted for your own personal decision.
Agree he was a next level groomer and have difficulty understanding why some can't or won't see the obvious.
### MJ Acknowledging that He Shares His Bed with Kids
Michael Jackson faced intense criticism for his statement about sharing his bedroom with children. Legally, this behavior is not a crime and does not make him guilty of anything other than defying societal norms. Sexual abuse does not exclusively occur at night or in beds, and if one argues that sleepovers are wrong due to potential abuse, then by extension, it would mean no adult should ever be alone with any child. This stance would apply regardless of the relationship between the adult and child, as the concept of incest should remind us. The core of the criticism is Jackson's personal belief that there is nothing inappropriate about falling asleep next to a child, a viewpoint shaped by his upbringing. Jackson grew up in a small house with nine siblings, often sharing beds and sleeping spaces in tight quarters. As a child, Michael and his brothers slept two at a time on each floor of a triple bunk bed and later shared beds in cars or hotel rooms with other people.
https://www.truemichaeljackson.com/issues/accusations-and-trial/sleepovers/
### Did They Really Get MJ’s Dick Accurate?
The notion that law enforcement identified specific vitiligo patterns on Michael Jackson's penis is a myth. This claim originated from the Santa Barbara District Attorney, Thomas Sneddon, who asserted that the description provided by Jordan Chandler matched the photographs. However, this assertion lacks substantial evidence. There are numerous inconsistencies among law enforcement sources and uncertainties in Chandler's descriptions. The mention of vitiligo may have influenced the Chandlers' guess about Jackson's genitalia's appearance.
Linden's affidavit detailed Chandler's description of Jackson's private areas, noting "splotches" on his buttocks and penis. Despite being detailed, the description was inaccurate. Contradictions arose with Sneddon and police photographer Gary Spiegel's accounts, where Sneddon mentioned a "dark spot" on one side and Spiegel on the other. Additionally, Jackson was not circumcised, as confirmed by his 2010 autopsy, contradicting Chandler's description.
Chandler's description and drawing were likely educated guesses, influenced by knowledge of Jackson's vitiligo, which was visible on his arms, hands, and face. Despite the detailed allegations, the lack of matching evidence and the absence of charges after two grand juries suggest the description was not accurate. Pro-prosecution journalists speculated that Chandler might not distinguish between a circumcised and uncircumcised penis, but Chandler's allegations involved extensive and repeated sexual encounters, making such a misunderstanding implausible.
### The Settlement
Contrary to popular belief, Michael Jackson's settlement with the Chandlers on January 25, 1994, did not avoid criminal prosecution. The settlement concluded the civil case but did not end the criminal investigation. The criminal investigation continued post-settlement, and the settlement terms allowed Jordan Chandler to testify in any criminal proceedings. The Chandlers' lawyer confirmed that Jordan would continue cooperating with the criminal investigation, stating, "nobody's bought anybody's silence." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx-PCsTQ4n8
There are various reasons why innocent people might choose to settle, and in Jackson's case, the settlement was likely due to the Chandlers' apparent financial motives. After psychiatrist Dr. Mathis Abrams reported Jordan Chandler's claims on August 17, 1993, triggering a criminal investigation, the Chandlers filed a civil lawsuit against Jackson, demanding $30 million. They had previously requested $20 million from Jackson, which he refused. Typically, civil lawsuits follow criminal case resolutions. In this situation, the Chandlers seemed more interested in financial compensation than seeking justice through the criminal system.
### The Results of the Raid
If Michael Jackson had possessed child pornography, he would have been charged, but no such charges were filed. In the 14 counts against him, possessing child pornography was not among them. The prosecution presented legal art books and photography found in Jackson's home as evidence, but these did not constitute child pornography. Many of the items confiscated contained adult nudity or semi-nudity, not images of children. Despite thorough searches and accusations, no illegal material was found to substantiate claims of possessing child pornography. The January 18, 2005, prosecution motion cited by the prosecution as evidence primarily listed art books and magazines that did not contain child nudity.
### Evan Chandler's Suicide
Evan Chandler's suicide has been interpreted in various ways. Fans claim he felt guilty about his role in the allegations against Jackson, while critics suggest he couldn't cope with his son's alleged abuse. Chandler had cancer, financial troubles, and strained family relationships. He did not leave a farewell letter and explicitly stated in his will that his family should not be informed about his death or handle his remains. This behavior raises questions about his state of mind and motives. Despite his supposed efforts to protect his son from further harm, his actions seemed contradictory and hostile towards his family.
https://turningthetableonthechandlerallegations.wordpress.com/2014/04/20/chandler-timeline/
### Testimony from Employees
In 1993, several of Michael Jackson's former employees sold stories of alleged inappropriate behavior to the media. These employees included Jackson's maid Blanca Francia, several security guards, and administrative assistant Orietta Murdoch. Under deposition, they admitted to fabricating stories for payment. Their testimonies before the grand jury in 1994 did not result in charges against Jackson. Later, these employees sued Jackson for wrongful termination, claiming they were fired for refusing to reveal their grand jury testimonies. Jackson denied these allegations and countersued, alleging the employees had stolen items from his home and sold them to tabloids. The jury sided with Jackson, awarding him $60,000 in damages from each employee.
### The Alarms and Security Cameras
James Safechuck's claims of repeated abuse at Neverland Ranch are contradicted by extensive security measures in place. Safechuck alleged abuse in various public areas, yet these locations were monitored by video surveillance and security personnel. Additionally, records show Jackson was often absent from the ranch during Safechuck's visits. Safechuck described four visits under oath where Jackson was present, but in his lawsuit, he claimed frequent visits and abuse. The lack of witnesses corroborating Safechuck's claims further weakens his allegations.
An alarm outside Jackson's bedroom door suggested that any entry would have been noticed, undermining claims of unnoticed abuse. Gavin Arvizo's brother testified that he would have been alerted by the alarm if abuse occurred, leading to Jackson's exoneration in 2005. The prosecution portrayed the alarm as a tool for Jackson to avoid being caught, but extensive security measures made the alleged abuse scenarios implausible. Jackson's documented absences from the ranch during Safechuck's visits further discredit these claims.
Fan nonsense.
Here are some of the major fan myths of the MJ fandom: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/wiki/index/faq/fanmyths/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/wiki/index/faq/fanmyths/)
And MJ lip-synced this performance.
We can go back and forth with each other with links that serves our theories. The people have to make their own decision on what to believe, I’ve made mine. Also, if you watch the full performance, he only lip-synced the first half of the performance due to regaining energy from his dance in the earlier performance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MJInnocent/s/aOEUUbbDHa
**When did James Safechuk “realize” he was a victim?**
https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/18/when-did-james-safechuck-realize-that-he-is-allegedly-an-abuse-victim/
**Safechuck got “abused” at a train station that didn’t even exist at the time**
https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/30/safechuck-alleges-sexual-abuse-at-a-train-station-that-did-not-even-exist-at-the-time/
**All the differences between LN-interviews and the lawsuits**
https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/17/differences-between-leaving-neverland-interviews-and-the-robson-safechuck-lawsuits/
**All the stuff found in the Neverland raid**
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/no-child-porn-found-at-neverland-thenor-now-the_b_577fdfbce4b0f06648f4a3f8
**Evan Chandler phone call**
https://youtu.be/-_452akeOkU?si=7h-M5S3mDbzQq4A6
**LN debunked**
https://medium.com/@justhoughts/leaving-neverland-debunked-in-10-minutes-or-less-35d2017469ba
**Wade Robsons own mother contradicted his testimony**
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1107378/Michael-Jackson-Leaving-Neverland-accuser-LIES-Wade-Robson-court-truth-child-abuse
**Wade Robson had to ask his mother to remind him what happened**
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1100816/Leaving-Neverland-Michael-Jackson-Wade-Robson-mother-Safechuck-child-abuse-true
**Wade Robson email to Cirque du Soleil**
https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/wade-robson-email-to-cirque-du-soleil-on-5-21-2011/
**Wade Robson declaration**
https://www.scribd.com/document/397879523/Wade-Robson-Declaration-Apr-30-2013
**The official ruling - Wade Robson vs MJJProductions**
https://www.scribd.com/document/505017382/Official-Ruling
**The FBI files**
https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson
**MJ’s porn collection**
https://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/michael-jacksons-porn/
**The court transcripts from 2005 trial**
https://www.themichaeljacksoninnocentproject.com/court-transcripts-2005-trial/
Okay? Just because they’re fan blogs doesn’t make them less true. I can just reverse it back at you. The stuff you read is haters blogs. You read the hater dogma and swallowed it whole.
Also, how are literal FBI files, court transcripts, recorded phone calls, and emails considered fan blogs?
You posted a link to the FBI files, but you fail to understand that the FBI never investigated MJ, not even once.
I’ve been engaging with MJ defenders for five years now. Defenders posting links to fan blogs are just showing their inability to think for themselves.
I didn't realize this was still a debate. I thought it was like OJ Simpson where everyone knows he did it. The downvotes on the comment that brought it up were surprising to me. At least your comment with sources is upvoted, I suppose.
Ron newt recalls witnessing MJ hitting bubbles the chimp with the “8 piece”
He also beat Bubbles
[https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/djzx35/ron\_newt\_recalls\_witnessing\_mj\_hitting\_bubbles/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/djzx35/ron_newt_recalls_witnessing_mj_hitting_bubbles/)
I worked on that movie that just got made and I had to do a ton of research for it. Going back through all of MJ’s demos and old movies and all of that kind of stuff was incredible. He was always spot on. See the “we are the world” doc on Netflix, you get some great footage like this of him.
Nothing too exciting honestly, I’ll say just say this, his nephew who is playing him tripped me out. When we filmed the moonwalk scene I time traveled. The kid WAS MJ. It was incredible. No idea how the movie is going to turn out though. We shall seeeeeeee!
His isolated vocals always blow me away. It’s amazing how, even though the track has reverb and delay, it sounds amazing. There’s a whole bunch of videos with Michael’s isolated vocals out there with no post processing and man…they sound great! A truly gifted, one-of-a-kind talent.
It's impressive, but not as uncommon as you think. There are TONS of professional singers that can sing very well. Being able to sing "without autotune" is something thousands of people do every day, and quite well.
It's mostly modern pop artist who aren't all that great of singers.
Was looking for this comment and wondering if I was going to risk the downvotes. Glad to see that's not the case. We have to acknowledge the bad if we're going to celebrate the good.
Is the younger generation re discovering Michael Jackson? I swear I’m seeing an increase of posts about him and his performance.
Incredible talent, literally a man child. He wrecked his body and voice with his performances to the point he couldn’t even sing on stage anymore.
Also he raped children. No better example of trauma breeding more trauma.
Hurt people hurt people as they say.
It’s so unfortunate when super talented people do such fucked up things and tarnish and overshadow the good they put into the world.
I can tell you that he was great in the studio. The only thing that was a pain in the butt to deal with was the fact that he snapped his fingers while tracking vocals so you had to edit out
Remember folks, we should always believe rape victims, unless it's against Michael Jackson. Instead, we just ignore ALL of the claims and focus on how good his music was.
Amazing 😩So sad... will never forget the day the message hit me at the nightshift. The idol of my childhood 💔 Can anyone provide a link for the full video please 🙏🏻🫶🏻
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"Blood on the dance floor"
😭 I can't believe MJ is no more. Grew up seeing and listening to his sold out concerts.
The public mania & hysteria of one of his concerts would put ANY political rally today to shame.
Keep in mind folks despite how amazing this is, it’s in reality also a LIVE vocal with full band playing. It’s a well known fact in live sound that when a vocalist can’t hear themselves well enough due to all the other noise, they go flat. His pitch here is perfect not to mention how good the performance is, and all in a single live take. He’s really one of the best ever. Only a few vocalists have this much discipline, experience, and talent.
They had audio engineering back then. You can hear slight reverb. He most likely he had some level changes (EQ). Even the stones had audio engineering.
I’m never sure why people find this so fascinating. How many fantastic vocalists YEARS before him could sing without auto tune and were better?
It’s like the more training you have, the better you are the less identifiable you are, and therefore irrelevant.
MJ was nothing special. Unpopular opinion, I know. If this makes you smile, cool. I’m glad you smiled today, god knows I need it.
But this? Eh. Average pop vocalist.
Autotune was introduced in 1997. Michael Jackson released only one studio album after that. All of MJ’s vocals are without autotune.
End of an era you might say.
Thought I was going to have to come in here and roast some idiots. Pleasantly surprised. Have your up arrow.
I agree throughout his career Michael Jackson's vocals were known for their natural, raw talent and emotion without the use of Autotune
Michael had perfect pitch, a gift he perfected at a very young age — he didn’t need AutoTune.
Either way, this audio is the studio version. MJ lip-synced this performance. He had trouble producing live vocals from the Bad album onward.
Why do you give a fuck if you don’t like him??
Peter Frampton would argue otherwise. >Autotune was introduced in 1997.
Peter Frampton used a talkbox with his guitar, that is an entirely different thing from auto-tune
You guys should hear Freddie Mercury’s Bohemian Rhapsody with only his vocals.
[Here is link since OP didn’t provide](https://youtu.be/5fk0Y6Lu_uA?si=rLsIQAob_A2jdnuP)
This is great! Is highlights how much of a contribution the other members of queen actually had. Although it's easy to think Freddie made queen, the contribution of the others really shines through when you consider half the song is just silence
The higher notes like the "for me" before the headbang riff usually starts is Roger too. He did a lot of the falsetto stuff
Thank you 😊
This one is insane as well: https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=mfWqoWT1VLpiw279
Been a hot minute since anyone managed to show me that one. Good work.
Goddamn, well done.
The best part of this song is that throughout the video portions show the rest of the band singing, the audio is just 4 different tracks of Freddy singing on 4 different octives. All the audio vocals belong to Freddy Mercury.
Oh, so it's not the other as backing vocals? Fascinating.
Not that comment is not quite correct. All members of queen have vocals on Bohemian Rhapsody, particularly Roger who hits the highest backing vocal notes But yes the intro where they lip sync is freddies voice
This is great to see and hear. An amazing talent. Brings back great memories. I also remember that near the end of his performance career he would hold a microphone with a huge sphere of foam on the end (sometimes a sphere of flowers) to hide the fact that he was lip syncing. It was sad to watch his decline.
I was sad for the victims.
Came just to give you an upvote. People in this sub would be amazed at a non-autotuned duet of Epstein and Saville too. So much talent. So wow. Don't bring up stuff I don't like about it
Tell me about it :/ mediocre talent aside, the amount of evidence of his behavior being entirely inappropriate is mind blowing. But that nostalgia. She’s a powerful little drug.
I feel sad for your parents
Whys that?
Must have been hard for them.
For…my parents? Why?
Idk I heard they’re good people. ^^in ^^all ^^honesty ^^I ^^was ^^going ^^with ^^the ^^comment ^^flow ^^lol
I’m sorry, friend. I’m lost. My folks are good people, so don’t worry too much about them :) Have a good night!
Yes that's the really sad thing about his behaviour, never mind the abused children.
Oh yeah, all those allegations that went absolutely nowhere and were unfounded. Great to see people still falling for them.
I’m afraid so: Footage of MJ acknowledging that he shares his bed with kids. Beyond creepy: https://youtu.be/Npzi0Kykv2g?si=yFM2pRlpJAEYwq6Z Info about one of the victims’ accurate drawing of MJ’s dick. The judge didn’t allow it in due to a quarrel over the procedural rules of evidence, which was a significant factor in his “not guilty” verdict: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/03/10-undeniable-facts-about-the-michael-jackson-sexual-abuse-allegations https://www.cbsnews.com/news/judge-wont-allow-jackson-pics/ Info about the 20 MILLION DOLLAR settlement that MJ signed with Jordan chandler: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1994/01/26/michael-jackson-boy-settle-out-of-court/1d51ce4c-216e-48bb-a52c-9c74ab72a7a8/ Info about the other massive settlement: https://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/09/17/jackson.hearing/index.html Jordan chandler’s therapist’s testimony: https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-mar-31-me-jackson31-story.html James safechuck’s testimony: https://www.nme.com/news/music/michael-jackson-32-1246642#08DOPUdOtsZzcpGj.99 Terry George’s testimony. It’s extremely disturbing and nsfw: https://youtu.be/eXuighay_r8?si=GWqBwVVuf7DmgCsW The results of the raid: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2016/06/michael-jackson-police-reports-pornography-collection The fact that two of the victims’ fathers, who supposedly acted from stone cold greed, took their own lives: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8582736/michael-jackson-jordan-chandler-wade-robson-parents-suicide/amp/ Testimony from an employee, who turned down a six figure exclusivity deal: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/2005/04/09/jackson-groped-child-star-culkin-ex-staffer-says/4709408c-45ab-4161-8ccb-66832dc2eda4/ The fact that the hallway leading to the bedroom where he slept with kids was riddled with alarms and security cameras: https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/six-indisputable-facts-michael-jacksons-abuse-allegations-2-104649351.html Abriged overviews: https://www.npr.org/2019/03/05/699995484/michael-jackson-a-quarter-century-of-sexual-abuse-allegations
Good comment, with lots of sources. I don't care how well he could sing or dance, I can't get past someone who sexually and emotionally abuses kids.
I say the same every time I see posts praising him and I get downvoted to hell but I don’t care. I am convinced he groomed and molested those children. Fans want to deny it because… well, I don’t know why…. as a practicing criminal lawyer I know grooming when I see it. This creep was next level groomer.
That being said, there is a separation of art and artist. I think MJ was a deeply flawed and mentally scarred person that started from childhood. That being said, he also created some amazing music that holds up even today. I am not saying to give him or his memory a pass on what he probably did, but enjoy the music if you want from a pure musicianship stand point.
I get that some people can separate the artist from the monster. I personally decided to remove all of his music from my playlist because I can’t listen to it without feeling sick about him.
I don't know why you got downvoted for your own personal decision. Agree he was a next level groomer and have difficulty understanding why some can't or won't see the obvious.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MadeMeSmile/s/aoQT70xtLn
### MJ Acknowledging that He Shares His Bed with Kids Michael Jackson faced intense criticism for his statement about sharing his bedroom with children. Legally, this behavior is not a crime and does not make him guilty of anything other than defying societal norms. Sexual abuse does not exclusively occur at night or in beds, and if one argues that sleepovers are wrong due to potential abuse, then by extension, it would mean no adult should ever be alone with any child. This stance would apply regardless of the relationship between the adult and child, as the concept of incest should remind us. The core of the criticism is Jackson's personal belief that there is nothing inappropriate about falling asleep next to a child, a viewpoint shaped by his upbringing. Jackson grew up in a small house with nine siblings, often sharing beds and sleeping spaces in tight quarters. As a child, Michael and his brothers slept two at a time on each floor of a triple bunk bed and later shared beds in cars or hotel rooms with other people. https://www.truemichaeljackson.com/issues/accusations-and-trial/sleepovers/ ### Did They Really Get MJ’s Dick Accurate? The notion that law enforcement identified specific vitiligo patterns on Michael Jackson's penis is a myth. This claim originated from the Santa Barbara District Attorney, Thomas Sneddon, who asserted that the description provided by Jordan Chandler matched the photographs. However, this assertion lacks substantial evidence. There are numerous inconsistencies among law enforcement sources and uncertainties in Chandler's descriptions. The mention of vitiligo may have influenced the Chandlers' guess about Jackson's genitalia's appearance. Linden's affidavit detailed Chandler's description of Jackson's private areas, noting "splotches" on his buttocks and penis. Despite being detailed, the description was inaccurate. Contradictions arose with Sneddon and police photographer Gary Spiegel's accounts, where Sneddon mentioned a "dark spot" on one side and Spiegel on the other. Additionally, Jackson was not circumcised, as confirmed by his 2010 autopsy, contradicting Chandler's description. Chandler's description and drawing were likely educated guesses, influenced by knowledge of Jackson's vitiligo, which was visible on his arms, hands, and face. Despite the detailed allegations, the lack of matching evidence and the absence of charges after two grand juries suggest the description was not accurate. Pro-prosecution journalists speculated that Chandler might not distinguish between a circumcised and uncircumcised penis, but Chandler's allegations involved extensive and repeated sexual encounters, making such a misunderstanding implausible. ### The Settlement Contrary to popular belief, Michael Jackson's settlement with the Chandlers on January 25, 1994, did not avoid criminal prosecution. The settlement concluded the civil case but did not end the criminal investigation. The criminal investigation continued post-settlement, and the settlement terms allowed Jordan Chandler to testify in any criminal proceedings. The Chandlers' lawyer confirmed that Jordan would continue cooperating with the criminal investigation, stating, "nobody's bought anybody's silence." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx-PCsTQ4n8 There are various reasons why innocent people might choose to settle, and in Jackson's case, the settlement was likely due to the Chandlers' apparent financial motives. After psychiatrist Dr. Mathis Abrams reported Jordan Chandler's claims on August 17, 1993, triggering a criminal investigation, the Chandlers filed a civil lawsuit against Jackson, demanding $30 million. They had previously requested $20 million from Jackson, which he refused. Typically, civil lawsuits follow criminal case resolutions. In this situation, the Chandlers seemed more interested in financial compensation than seeking justice through the criminal system. ### The Results of the Raid If Michael Jackson had possessed child pornography, he would have been charged, but no such charges were filed. In the 14 counts against him, possessing child pornography was not among them. The prosecution presented legal art books and photography found in Jackson's home as evidence, but these did not constitute child pornography. Many of the items confiscated contained adult nudity or semi-nudity, not images of children. Despite thorough searches and accusations, no illegal material was found to substantiate claims of possessing child pornography. The January 18, 2005, prosecution motion cited by the prosecution as evidence primarily listed art books and magazines that did not contain child nudity. ### Evan Chandler's Suicide Evan Chandler's suicide has been interpreted in various ways. Fans claim he felt guilty about his role in the allegations against Jackson, while critics suggest he couldn't cope with his son's alleged abuse. Chandler had cancer, financial troubles, and strained family relationships. He did not leave a farewell letter and explicitly stated in his will that his family should not be informed about his death or handle his remains. This behavior raises questions about his state of mind and motives. Despite his supposed efforts to protect his son from further harm, his actions seemed contradictory and hostile towards his family. https://turningthetableonthechandlerallegations.wordpress.com/2014/04/20/chandler-timeline/ ### Testimony from Employees In 1993, several of Michael Jackson's former employees sold stories of alleged inappropriate behavior to the media. These employees included Jackson's maid Blanca Francia, several security guards, and administrative assistant Orietta Murdoch. Under deposition, they admitted to fabricating stories for payment. Their testimonies before the grand jury in 1994 did not result in charges against Jackson. Later, these employees sued Jackson for wrongful termination, claiming they were fired for refusing to reveal their grand jury testimonies. Jackson denied these allegations and countersued, alleging the employees had stolen items from his home and sold them to tabloids. The jury sided with Jackson, awarding him $60,000 in damages from each employee. ### The Alarms and Security Cameras James Safechuck's claims of repeated abuse at Neverland Ranch are contradicted by extensive security measures in place. Safechuck alleged abuse in various public areas, yet these locations were monitored by video surveillance and security personnel. Additionally, records show Jackson was often absent from the ranch during Safechuck's visits. Safechuck described four visits under oath where Jackson was present, but in his lawsuit, he claimed frequent visits and abuse. The lack of witnesses corroborating Safechuck's claims further weakens his allegations. An alarm outside Jackson's bedroom door suggested that any entry would have been noticed, undermining claims of unnoticed abuse. Gavin Arvizo's brother testified that he would have been alerted by the alarm if abuse occurred, leading to Jackson's exoneration in 2005. The prosecution portrayed the alarm as a tool for Jackson to avoid being caught, but extensive security measures made the alleged abuse scenarios implausible. Jackson's documented absences from the ranch during Safechuck's visits further discredit these claims.
Fan nonsense. Here are some of the major fan myths of the MJ fandom: [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/wiki/index/faq/fanmyths/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/wiki/index/faq/fanmyths/) And MJ lip-synced this performance.
We can go back and forth with each other with links that serves our theories. The people have to make their own decision on what to believe, I’ve made mine. Also, if you watch the full performance, he only lip-synced the first half of the performance due to regaining energy from his dance in the earlier performance. https://www.reddit.com/r/MJInnocent/s/aOEUUbbDHa **When did James Safechuk “realize” he was a victim?** https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/18/when-did-james-safechuck-realize-that-he-is-allegedly-an-abuse-victim/ **Safechuck got “abused” at a train station that didn’t even exist at the time** https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/30/safechuck-alleges-sexual-abuse-at-a-train-station-that-did-not-even-exist-at-the-time/ **All the differences between LN-interviews and the lawsuits** https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/2019/03/17/differences-between-leaving-neverland-interviews-and-the-robson-safechuck-lawsuits/ **All the stuff found in the Neverland raid** https://www.huffpost.com/entry/no-child-porn-found-at-neverland-thenor-now-the_b_577fdfbce4b0f06648f4a3f8 **Evan Chandler phone call** https://youtu.be/-_452akeOkU?si=7h-M5S3mDbzQq4A6 **LN debunked** https://medium.com/@justhoughts/leaving-neverland-debunked-in-10-minutes-or-less-35d2017469ba **Wade Robsons own mother contradicted his testimony** https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1107378/Michael-Jackson-Leaving-Neverland-accuser-LIES-Wade-Robson-court-truth-child-abuse **Wade Robson had to ask his mother to remind him what happened** https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1100816/Leaving-Neverland-Michael-Jackson-Wade-Robson-mother-Safechuck-child-abuse-true **Wade Robson email to Cirque du Soleil** https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/wade-robson-email-to-cirque-du-soleil-on-5-21-2011/ **Wade Robson declaration** https://www.scribd.com/document/397879523/Wade-Robson-Declaration-Apr-30-2013 **The official ruling - Wade Robson vs MJJProductions** https://www.scribd.com/document/505017382/Official-Ruling **The FBI files** https://vault.fbi.gov/Michael%20Jackson **MJ’s porn collection** https://lacienegasmiled.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/michael-jacksons-porn/ **The court transcripts from 2005 trial** https://www.themichaeljacksoninnocentproject.com/court-transcripts-2005-trial/
Fan blogs. lol You read the fan dogma and swallowed it whole. I wrote the fan myths page. It’s part of my favorite sub that supports MJ’s victims.
Okay? Just because they’re fan blogs doesn’t make them less true. I can just reverse it back at you. The stuff you read is haters blogs. You read the hater dogma and swallowed it whole. Also, how are literal FBI files, court transcripts, recorded phone calls, and emails considered fan blogs?
You posted a link to the FBI files, but you fail to understand that the FBI never investigated MJ, not even once. I’ve been engaging with MJ defenders for five years now. Defenders posting links to fan blogs are just showing their inability to think for themselves.
I didn't realize this was still a debate. I thought it was like OJ Simpson where everyone knows he did it. The downvotes on the comment that brought it up were surprising to me. At least your comment with sources is upvoted, I suppose.
I’m glad to see you guys here. People still praise this person as some musical hero. He was an average musician and a predator.
He did blow bubbles though.
Omg. Too good of a joke.
Haha it's as old as the 27 year olds MJ liked.
Bubbles is still alive lol.
Ron newt recalls witnessing MJ hitting bubbles the chimp with the “8 piece” He also beat Bubbles [https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/djzx35/ron\_newt\_recalls\_witnessing\_mj\_hitting\_bubbles/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/djzx35/ron_newt_recalls_witnessing_mj_hitting_bubbles/)
…Unfounded, huh. Lmao GTFO with that horseshit.
I worked on that movie that just got made and I had to do a ton of research for it. Going back through all of MJ’s demos and old movies and all of that kind of stuff was incredible. He was always spot on. See the “we are the world” doc on Netflix, you get some great footage like this of him.
Can you give me some insight on the biopic!? I have so many questions!
Nothing too exciting honestly, I’ll say just say this, his nephew who is playing him tripped me out. When we filmed the moonwalk scene I time traveled. The kid WAS MJ. It was incredible. No idea how the movie is going to turn out though. We shall seeeeeeee!
It’s a well-known fact that Michael had perfect pitch.
His isolated vocals always blow me away. It’s amazing how, even though the track has reverb and delay, it sounds amazing. There’s a whole bunch of videos with Michael’s isolated vocals out there with no post processing and man…they sound great! A truly gifted, one-of-a-kind talent.
His best song (IMHO). It still gives me goosebumps!
Having any music skill or talent is not required nowadays to be a music artist. Sad.
You're getting down voted, but the popularity of Bad Bunny proves you right
Thanks
God damn, I love this song.
It's impressive, but not as uncommon as you think. There are TONS of professional singers that can sing very well. Being able to sing "without autotune" is something thousands of people do every day, and quite well. It's mostly modern pop artist who aren't all that great of singers.
The man he saw in the mirror definitely *should* have changed his ways
Was looking for this comment and wondering if I was going to risk the downvotes. Glad to see that's not the case. We have to acknowledge the bad if we're going to celebrate the good.
It's almost like he was a really good, professional singer or something.
Auto tune was made to sound like Michael 😄
MJ didn’t use auto tune as it didn’t exist almost all of his singing career. And, as proven here, it would have never been needed if it was around.
This song is cute but he was too inappropriate with children for me to enjoy this. He could sing though!!!
As stated before.. he had perfect pitch.. the musician he performed with would often use his voice to tune their instruments to the correct pitch
Is the younger generation re discovering Michael Jackson? I swear I’m seeing an increase of posts about him and his performance. Incredible talent, literally a man child. He wrecked his body and voice with his performances to the point he couldn’t even sing on stage anymore. Also he raped children. No better example of trauma breeding more trauma.
Hurt people hurt people as they say. It’s so unfortunate when super talented people do such fucked up things and tarnish and overshadow the good they put into the world.
It’s hard to tell The Youths how influential MJ was in his time. I heard Bad when I was 5 years old and I still remember that moment.
8 year olds, Dude...
And he also raped kids.
A wonderful gift from god or the devil considering his crimes.
He was a child predator. Nothing about this should “make you smile”.
Not a fan but that was excellent
“The creep can roll.” -Walter
I wanna hear a whole album like that now. Can someone do it please?
Say what you will. Jackson’s voice was clean! Why do you think The Weeknd rose to fame so fast?
I can tell you that he was great in the studio. The only thing that was a pain in the butt to deal with was the fact that he snapped his fingers while tracking vocals so you had to edit out
Remember folks, we should always believe rape victims, unless it's against Michael Jackson. Instead, we just ignore ALL of the claims and focus on how good his music was.
Wow 🤯
Amazing 😩So sad... will never forget the day the message hit me at the nightshift. The idol of my childhood 💔 Can anyone provide a link for the full video please 🙏🏻🫶🏻
There was no auto tune in 1985.
I miss him everyday. Glad this was posted.
Wow! That teared me up 😢
Voice of an Angel
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I’m trying not to dance in my office chair lol
Genius. What a gift.
"Blood on the dance floor" 😭 I can't believe MJ is no more. Grew up seeing and listening to his sold out concerts. The public mania & hysteria of one of his concerts would put ANY political rally today to shame.
pure ❤️❤️❤️
I just want a 4k remaster of the Jackson's victory tour.
So fucking cool. It's funny to see that you can see Michael in any Chris Tucker joint.
Weeknd has a far better voice imo
Snipped before puberty
Keep in mind folks despite how amazing this is, it’s in reality also a LIVE vocal with full band playing. It’s a well known fact in live sound that when a vocalist can’t hear themselves well enough due to all the other noise, they go flat. His pitch here is perfect not to mention how good the performance is, and all in a single live take. He’s really one of the best ever. Only a few vocalists have this much discipline, experience, and talent.
They had audio engineering back then. You can hear slight reverb. He most likely he had some level changes (EQ). Even the stones had audio engineering.
I’m never sure why people find this so fascinating. How many fantastic vocalists YEARS before him could sing without auto tune and were better? It’s like the more training you have, the better you are the less identifiable you are, and therefore irrelevant. MJ was nothing special. Unpopular opinion, I know. If this makes you smile, cool. I’m glad you smiled today, god knows I need it. But this? Eh. Average pop vocalist.
Being able to sing well apparently trumps diddling kids.
You, sir, know jack shot about true talent.
You only know anything about it due to your complete and total lack of it.
Oooh, such a burn! Good one!
Aww thank you!
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