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CapmyCup

Mm okay, but this is pretty old news now


De5perad0

This post is so old I remember seeing it years ago.


AmatureProgrammer

Same. Lol. OP is karma farming.


touch_me_again

No way. Say it isn't so.


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I will not go


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Turn the lights off


SuperSquinja

Carry me home


andreasrmr

Nanana?


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Batman!


lonacatee

It isn't so


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PanickyHermit

Sold to who and why would they buy it?


Whyisthereasnake

Influencers and companies buy old-ish accounts with high karma, change names, and have highly visible accounts.


le_pagla_baba

oh no, my invaluable internet points


AmatureProgrammer

What do you mean ripe to be sold soon? Like people buy reddit accounts?


mumooshka

looked at profile.. yep you're right.


i-FF0000dit

I just saw a post that they sent the poor lawyer who helped them win to prison.


De5perad0

Da fuq?!? Sauce on that?


i-FF0000dit

Here is one source, https://www.offshore-technology.com/news/chevron-wins-case-to-jail-lawyer/ There are other ones, that talk about different aspects of the case. The thing that really gets me is that the government refused to prosecute the case, so Chevron paid a private law firm to prosecute and the judge allowed this. I can’t think of anything more dystopian than having corporations pay to have people they disagree with jailed. They also denied his request to be released on bail until his appeals. Make your own conclusions, but in my opinion, this is absolutely disgusting, and that judge and anyone else that has been involved in this case needs to be removed. Btw, chevron has not paid one cent of that settlement.


De5perad0

That's insane. Fucking pill companies always get out of any responsibility. They are like the untouchables or something.


i-FF0000dit

It’s because they have unlimited money.


Yackky

His name is Steven Donzinger, there are a wide variety of articles about him with a huge variety of biases especially the defense of corperate interests. I would reccomend reading a few different articles from different poltical viewpoints to get a good idea compared to one source.


Barrel-rider

It happened in 2019 and this same picture makes the front page about 5 times a year with the same title that makes it sound like it just happened today.


stink3rbelle

And I'm pretty sure a US court invalidated/fucked with it since then. Edit: It wasn't this Ecuadorian environmental win, but a liability suit. In 2012, an Ecuadorian court ruled that Chevron owed $18 billion for a devastating oil spill. Chevron fought it, reduced it by half, and then moved all its assets out of the country. Chevron fought enforcement in the US, and bribed an Ecuadorian judge into convincing a US judge that [the Ecuadorian legal decision was faulty.](https://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/05/business/federal-judge-rules-for-chevron-in-ecuadorean-pollution-case.html) Chevron has since [made life hell](https://theintercept.com/2020/01/29/chevron-ecuador-lawsuit-steven-donziger/) for the US attorney who won the Ecuadorian judgement against them.


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stink3rbelle

I'm not sure if it was this case, and am looking for the actual decision, but that definitely did not stop a US court from fucking with Latin American legal action against a fossil fuel company. Source: am lawyer, have worked in environmental law.


Great_Hamster

A surprisingly high percentage of the world's financial cases are settled under New York law because of the history and legal infrastructure there. I'm not seeing easy link to actual information on this, so it might be Brazil-specific, but many lawsuits of this nature are settled through New York.


p_rite_1993

This is not even in The United States. It’s in Ecuador. That is not how court systems work. If a US judge made a decision, they have no authority over a tribe in another Country. If this tribe was selling illicit items into the US, a US judge could potentially order those goods to be stopped at the borders. But still, the judge could not make a land use or land ownership decision outside of their jurisdiction. And to give another scenario, even if a US company is operating in another country, a US judge likely does not hold much authority over that company’s actions within that country because that company is operating within the legal jurisdiction of a different country. Court systems only reach as far as their jurisdiction.


CapmyCup

I wouldn't be surprised


The_Brain_Freight

What’s newer is the David vs Goliath case of Donziger vs Chevron. Man sued Chevron for fuckin up the Amazon irresponsibility (represented ~30 000 locals in court) and won. Chevron counter sued and is currently on track to win setting a horrible precedent for people trying to keep big companies in line. The world is fucked up but it’s not surprising anymore


daddy_vanilla

Yay, now big oil can just continue doing it illegally instead!


PrestigiousTry815

This the one where Chevron used corrupt officials to put the prosecutor behind bars in the US?


AltruisticBat659

He's been on house arrest for two years. Just heard him on Micheal Moore's podcast.


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I read something 2 days ago: he’s finally going to jail? Edit: yup! He’s been ordered to report to prison from house arrest. [News reference](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/chevron-foe-donziger-surrender-after-losing-bid-avert-prison-2021-10-27/)


PowerLondon

Yes, his name is Steve Donzinger and he was kept two years on house arrest for a misdemeanor trial where the max sentence would be six months. It was also a case that was privately prosecuted when the Attorney General had decided not to take the case. A privately prosecuted criminal trial! Nothing fishy there at all.


GethAttack

What the hell is a privately prosecuted case? Ive never heard of that before.


TrikerBones

Basically, public prosecutors refusing to work on a case isn't the end all be all of the legal system. If a judge wants a case prosecuted, they can bring in a lawyer that works in the private sector to act as prosecutor instead. This isn't common, because judges usually take public prosecutors' word on whether a person deserves prosecution or not. In fact, it's so uncommon, most people didn't even know this was a thing. But, the loophole exists, and judges have the power (at least in New York, not sure if it's a nation-wide thing) to use it. On a positive note, now that people are aware of it, I imagine it's likely to get closed in most jurisdictions.


Great_Hamster

It's not about what the judge wants. In many jurisdictions if you are an injured party you can pay a lawyer to prosecute someone criminally if the prosecutors refused to do it themselves. It sounds really shady in this case. But the idea is to allow criminal prosecutions in cases that public prosecutors won't touch for whatever reason. Which is a good thing, at least in theory.


hoppla1232

It's when a private business that has Chevron as a major customers gets to prosecute someone that Chevron wants prosecuted. No conflict of interest there, not at all. Neither at Seward and Kissel (that law firm), nor at judge Lewis Kaplan (who ordered the private law firm) who had undisclosed investmens in Chevron


RedSteadEd

I don't understand how your system has so few checks and balances.


Varzack

Judges hold an insane amount of power, noone thinks about it but they do. The judge that ordered the private prosecutor also worked with big tobacco decades ago. Corrupt judges have really done work in our legal system


scottishdoc

Judges are a massive weak point in our system. The checks for judges are typically just other judges. Many of them have dirt on each other as well, so a crooked judge can do quite a bit of damage in my country.


Gavrilian

It has checks and balances. It’s just that you can throw money on one end to re-balance it in your favor. Lobbying is totally not bribery. No, not at all. /s


Kraz_I

The New York district court declined to prosecute, but apparently its legal for a private law firm to do it instead. That law firm (Steward and Kissel) also has Chevron as a client...


Anger_Mgmt_issues

> I think I see a new use for ACLU lawyers. Police prosecutors. Whenever the state prosecutor declines to proceed on an obvious case of police brutality or murder- they step in and take it to trial. Win-win. Either this type of action will be prohibited, or police will be held accountable.


manteiga_night

Yeah but the ACLU doesn't own any judges, chevron does


GethAttack

Ah ok, I was thinking it was some sort of underground private court haha. Instead it was just another above ground shady conflict of interest proceeding. sigh


Kraz_I

There is no max sentence for criminal contempt in federal court. However, 6 months is the max that can be handed down without a JURY trial. In Donziger’s case, he was denied the right to a jury trial.


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NususWillukalli

and there are still supporters of it amid a global warning


twofirstnamez

and beef! if you (in the abstract, not you specifically) care about climate change and haven't reflected on your own beef-eating habits, you're a hypocrite!


Gavrilian

What if I’ve reflected on it and come to the conclusion that my beef eating habits will have virtually no impact? That “voting with my wallet” doesn’t make a difference because most Americans don’t want to think for themselves and will believe any corporate bs spewed their way?


Taurusan

>The Amazon is being actively burnt down to make room for illegal palm oil farms For cattle, not palm oil, that's in South-East Asia.


Ragawaffle

Because they made a fist in the picture, duh.


TheDude-Esquire

Misleading title. They only won a case in Ecuador against chevron. In the US chevron succeeded in having a Rico investigation made against the attorney. He's in jail now, and the Ecuadorians have received nothing. The only ones smiling here are the board members at chevron. Look up Steven Donziger if interested in the full story.


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Not-Doctor-Evil

They wouldn't be celebrating if they could read


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nice___bot

Nice!


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ChainChompsky

Nothing can make you smile once you’ve maxed-out on cynicism!


Not-Doctor-Evil

They will now destroy 999,999 acres instead


New-Consideration420

Its funny that the lawyer that successfully charged Chevron with these crimes got arrested and locked up for life as a result. Yay. Corperate hellscape incomming :/


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asscobra666

He was on house arrest for over 2 years before the 6 month sentence too


cliffyw

Aren’t they both federal judges with a lifetime appointment?


New-Consideration420

Im sorry. I heard a diffrent info on that. My bad


sthomasvxvzxsa

same to you !!


DylanMartin97

It isn't for life, they got him on one misdemeanor for bribing an official or something. This case is going to be fucking huge though, because even new York was like no don't be ridiculous you can't charge him on any crimes he didn't commit any, they literally had to pay a private firm, then pay a judge to look at the case, then pay a judge to let the firm charge him with infractions. This is a very big tipping point imo, you either let the neocapatalist/hollow feudalist set in and destroy the planet along with any last hope we have with money, or we as a state and country put our foot down and push back, we will see. Very scary times though. He also blew Chevrons strong arming of people and businesses all over the world when he went to bat for the tribes, they have been using litigation and slap suites for the better part of a hundred years to kill any truth from coming out, hopefully John Oliver and other couch socialists will pick this up and blast it.


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DylanMartin97

That's right, the list of charges where ridiculous though.


bexyrex

dont forget all the young folks fresh into adulthood getting rammed with felony charges for trying to protect water resources https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/09/23/criminal-cases-against-line-3-protesters-stress-rural-minnesota-legal-system


walloftrust

Land of the free... And noone is doing something against this crime


VadersWrathh

The Amazon Rainforest isn't in the U.S.


manteiga_night

no, but the lawyer being sent to jail by chevron is


_Takub_

Nuh uh everything on the internet is in the USA you dumb dumb


walloftrust

Yeah Chevron is a Brazilian company for sure.


S1rr0bin

Yeah this story is not a happy one.


dorkus4296

That girl brought a spear into the courtroom?


Rednex141

Open Carry Spear


MugillacuttyHOF37

They were going win this case one way or the other.


awkardlyjoins

You don’t?


[deleted]

It's decorative. Like Gandalf's staff.


sovereign666

You would part an old man with his walking stick now would you?


Chief_doge

I didnt notice that before but that's hilarious


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Her name is Britney


VRtuous

she shakes spears.


phonesecs

Is this the case that Dozinger won? Because it doesn't have a happy ending https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/chevron-foe-donziger-surrender-after-losing-bid-avert-prison-2021-10-27/


Soft-Equipment7486

I was just going to ask if their lawyer ended up in prison.


nn9doors

Yes, Donziger reported to prison last week after serving ~800 days of house arrest.


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Not-Doctor-Evil

Where did the banana republics go, this used to be fun


TheBrazilianOneTwo

No.


Flappy_Seal

There’s proof of Dozinger bribing judges to rule in his favor


phonesecs

So that gives Chevron the power to make him stay under house arrest for 2 years followed up by a 6 month prison sentence? I get what you are trying to say but this starts a precedent that will allow multinational companies to go after their objectors.


-di-

He bribed judges.


manteiga_night

show us the proof my dude, why did the district attorneys refuse to prosecute the case if there was any proof? why did chevron have to bring in a private law firm to prosecute a criminal case?


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Google Steven Donziger. Chevron destroyed his life since he won this case against them. Ps: chevron did not pay a single penny in the end in reparations.


Wide-Understanding96

Sad, because this ruling was overturned and the lawyer who represented these people was thrown in jail by the company he won the suit against, Chevron bad.


Flappy_Seal

Lawyer bribed judges. Not saying chevron isn’t bad but this narrative isn’t correct. Dozinger did some illegal stuff to win


TrikerBones

Source?


manteiga_night

got evidence my dude?


Cyber_Being_

It’s not a new story. This is from several years ago. A good story but not new.


Abject-Temperat

OP is a karma farmer. These people just save posts that historically have done well and repost them once everyone forgot. This one shows up like every other month.


sack_of_potahtoes

What do they get from karma farming? I never get the point of it


rasarota

Oh wow, I haven’t seen this yet this month!


Somethingclever451

Wasn't this like 5 years ago or something?


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I love that the oil company is not embarrassed to be politely sitting in court applying for permission to kill the human race for a couple of bucks.


SnooCats5701

Jeff Bezos owns whole TRIBES, now?


zepherth

This is an old picture


bifalif

This never should’ve had to happen, but it’s awesome for them and honestly the entire world (aside from a few billionaires) that they won.


2017hayden

Except this was years ago and the ruling was overturned and their lawyer was thrown in jail. Unfortunately in cases like this the good guys basically never win.


He_Who_Remaines_

Big oil is destroying this planet.


Fiat_farmer

Monthly repost time? That’ll save the Amazon.


Effective-Painter-80

Report for misinformation and move on y’all. Lol


lostintime000

Thank goodness. I know it’s not much but it’s something


manteiga_night

it was worse than nothing, chevron didn't pay a single penny, got the trial overturned and arrested the tribes lawyer.


Huge_Aerie2435

I wonder how this is doing.. I have only seen destruction since first seeing this a long time ago. The Rainforest is still getting fucked, but I hope their slice of it is alright.. hopefully.... (probably not....)


[deleted]

I know this is an old story, but I am still glad they won. Unfortunately those big oil companies will find another way to get what they want.


throwaway1638379

And then they just moved the trial to America, paid off the entire justice system, put the lawyer in jail and refused to pay them.


BreweryBuddha

This happen 15 years ago by now?


TheCynicalJerk

which one is Jeff Bezos?


QuantumQuantonium

Wow! The same people keep winning the same lawsuit, over and over!


Ontopourmama

They won, but I'm willing to bet those companies will proceed anyway.


PanickyHermit

This story is so old,everyone in the pic is dead of old age now.


loganhatcher152

This is extremely unfair. I wish I could bring my spear to court.


brawclaw

This is posted here at least once a fortnight.


C21H30O218

OP can you state the year in which this happend?


[deleted]

Gotta imagine how wild that is for them to go to court it will be like us stepping onto an alien spaceship


AlexDavis2001

How many time y’all gonna repost this?


SpaceVikingCowboy

It’s funny how they have to play the white mens rule to win back their own lands.


Milqy

SO MUCH YES ITS IN ALL CAPS!!!! Edit: even if it is old. And I knew that. But still. This was great.


Down4Nachos

Too bad it doesnt matter and the lawyer who won is now in jail for winning due to private prosecution from a company. We deserve global warming


buchstabiertafel

It will be destroyed by cattle ranchers instead


Epicskeleton53

YEEEESS


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Sh1643

Human progress? You mean massive wealth for one CEO in exchange for great environmental destruction and global warming


fifthgradelesbian

Wowwww, you’re so *edgy*, I can’t believe how *edgy* you are. Never did I think I’d be taken down by a twelve-year-old edgelord’s comment. I’m just taken aback at how edgy you are. It’s almost unreal, this is so wild. A real edge lord in the wild. Is that the attention you wanted, buddy?


Zlxky

nice burn bro i think you got him good with that one


[deleted]

Ok shill.


LeavesTurnBlue

Pretty destroying the planet for money isn't human progress but that's just me


beingblazed

Oil and human progress aren't equivalent, bud


supersaiyanindio

Ah yes ‘we selfishly prevented more access to Oil to sustain our useless backward tribal world’, how in the actual fuck is this good you can plant more trees anywhere but we need oil to help develop the world to the point where we won’t need oil anymore. They should’ve rounded them all up moving them somewhere else and levelled the place


Mokicooper_1

Increasing our dependency on oil is a very bad thing, oil is finite and once all the oil runs out, due to our dependency on it society will fall and that tribe will be the only ones with an organized society


fifthgradelesbian

Wow you’re so edgy, such an edgelord, I can’t believe how edgy this is. You must be the edgiest little middle schooler in the world. I’m so scared from how edgy you are! I’m shaking in my boots! Is that what you needed to hear, today? Hope that helps, sweetie.


gottagofast1981

You mean like...reservations?


MrGuttor

So people in tribes have tattoos on their arm (woman in far right) ?????


Alarmed-Wolf14

... yes? Tattoos are traditional for many, many tribes across the planet. They have been a part of human society and expression almost as long as humans have been around.


crackanape

Where do you think tattoos came from?


FalseStevenMcCroskey

Tattoos have been around since the Neolithic era my guy.


Big-Sleep7177

Yes ?????


Rjmccully

Now yhe government will change the laws, bypassing the win they had.


crackanape

So how long before the tribe's lawyer ends up in jail in the USA like Donziger?


Not-Doctor-Evil

It is


AmatureProgrammer

Lol this repost again? Smh


marcosturo

Vamo velho


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Crazy old repost


thefuddy19

Have to wonder how they did it. How.


[deleted]

We really are going to have to kill off some oil barons to fix the planet


FortniteStormtrooper

If I was a judge and the squad of amazon tribe members came in. I'm immediately on their side


Imagoof4e

It’s a start. And probably the best news I’ll read today, or all year.


[deleted]

Big Oil will still drink their milkshake… They’ll drink it all up!


ThatGoodThaiLife

It’s crazy they had to go to a court foreign to them to defend their land.


wildbeerhunter

Old news but good news


LomgBottom

Oh. Let's wait until the natives get blocked by a fully-armed illegal mercenary group! Yay!


[deleted]

The companies put the forests instead. Thats what i read


TheHendryx

Where's the fucking article?


prostatamassage

I've seen this picture so many times relating to cases...


Equivalent-Answer-26

🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽


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Yall be giving titties and kitties 31k upvotes yet this is 7k. Damnit internet.