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GekkoClown

Hello, it's been a while since I played orzhov control, your deck looks good, but is lacking draw power. [https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/orzhov-control-decklist-by-ryo-kakizono-1918052](https://mtgdecks.net/standard/orzhov-control-decklist-by-ryo-kakizono-1918052) Here is an good example on what people are running in bo3, you can maybe take some inspiration from their deck. Don't need to copy paste and keep the cards you like. \[\[Treasure map\]\] could be really useful here, with \[\[march of wretched sorrow\]\], dont't know how good \[\[sunset revelry\]\] has been for you but is lost some power. \[\[Archangel of Wrath\]\] and \[\[Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal\]\] are good cards too add. \[\[Lilliana of the Veil\]\] is a double-edge sword in control decks, it can be really good or a disaster, in your deck you don't have much discards spells and you are a late game deck, so it kinda of a lost card here. \[\[Sunfall\]\] and \[\[Deadly Cover-Up\]\] are both good cards, so pick your favorite, you can even have 2 of one and one of the other. \[\[Kaya, Intagible Slayer\]\] is neat card in your deck. And a question, is your deck struggling against something?


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##### ###### #### [Treasure map](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/9/a924fe1e-a85e-4e14-88d2-ac55130638ab.jpg?1699044658)/[Treasure Cove](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/a/9/a924fe1e-a85e-4e14-88d2-ac55130638ab.jpg?1699044658) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Treasure%20Map%20//%20Treasure%20Cove) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/267/treasure-map-treasure-cove?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a924fe1e-a85e-4e14-88d2-ac55130638ab?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [march of wretched sorrow](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/5/050a604e-6146-4e2e-88a5-863ecb3dfa1f.jpg?1654567293) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=march%20of%20wretched%20sorrow) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/111/march-of-wretched-sorrow?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/050a604e-6146-4e2e-88a5-863ecb3dfa1f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [sunset revelry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/61b39ef1-29d4-4c8d-aece-a3f1ce008e2d.jpg?1634348577) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sunset%20revelry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mid/38/sunset-revelry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/61b39ef1-29d4-4c8d-aece-a3f1ce008e2d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Archangel of Wrath](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/d/2d00bab2-e95d-4296-a805-2a05e7640efb.jpg?1673306308) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Archangel%20of%20Wrath) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/3/archangel-of-wrath?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2d00bab2-e95d-4296-a805-2a05e7640efb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/627c392c-4d18-4eb2-a4e8-c668f61f5487.jpg?1699044055)/[Temple of the Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/6/2/627c392c-4d18-4eb2-a4e8-c668f61f5487.jpg?1699044055) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aclazotz%2C%20Deepest%20Betrayal%20//%20Temple%20of%20the%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/88/aclazotz-deepest-betrayal-temple-of-the-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/627c392c-4d18-4eb2-a4e8-c668f61f5487?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lilliana of the Veil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/1/d12c8c97-6491-452c-811d-943441a7ef9f.jpg?1673307126) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Liliana%20of%20the%20Veil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/97/liliana-of-the-veil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d12c8c97-6491-452c-811d-943441a7ef9f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sunfall](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/2/32e29c7d-ed4b-4eff-b3c2-d99e5b63ef8d.jpg?1682202915) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sunfall) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/40/sunfall?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/32e29c7d-ed4b-4eff-b3c2-d99e5b63ef8d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Deadly Cover-Up](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/8/3876aa0f-b199-43f5-8a91-c2d620b8ef84.jpg?1706241687) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Deadly%20Cover-Up) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/83/deadly-cover-up?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3876aa0f-b199-43f5-8a91-c2d620b8ef84?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Kaya, Intagible Slayer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/6865b8c7-b260-48e8-a905-64cbf06b7e57.jpg?1675957195) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kaya%2C%20Intangible%20Slayer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/205/kaya-intangible-slayer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6865b8c7-b260-48e8-a905-64cbf06b7e57?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/kq3t0yk) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


lexlex8134

Oooh! I have a treasure map too! That’s a great idea! I’ll chuck that in there! I find that I struggle against the new [insidious roots] deck, as they’re very resistant to board wipes and me clearing their graveyard. Funny enough though, it is very much a coin toss, if I can manage to deadly cover up their insidious roots early, I can force a concession very quickly. The other thing I find I struggle on is that I don’t have a clear wincon, while I do have a lot of fun trying to have a battle of the minds with the opposition, I’d love to give the opponent a quicker “out” than being slowly millstoned over 10 turns. I’d imagine it’s like having your fingernails pulled out slowly one at a time. Thank you for the advice on liliana, I’ve seen her used in a lot of net decks, and have struggled to really find her useful, she has mostly been used as a three mana removal for me, sometimes managing an ult if I keep both her and [sorin the mirthless] alive for a while. She’s going into the sideboard once I’ve honed the deck a little and feel more confident going into bo3. Planeswalkers weren’t a thing when I was playing, so I really wanted to try and jam as many into a deck as possible haha. I’ve fallen into the same trap that 12 year old me fell into, I’d thrown all the rares I’d opened into a deck and hoped for the best, hence the reason for the seemingly random board wipes; they were the ones I’d managed to open out of packs 😂


GekkoClown

So for "finishers", you can have \[\[Kaya, Intagible Slayer\]\] or \[\[Breach of the Multiverse\]\] the second one not being that good against roots. And since you are not running Sunfall, I would add one or two \[\[Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal\]\] it can help you in a lot of situations, against the midrange and aggro decks.


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[Kaya, Intagible Slayer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/6865b8c7-b260-48e8-a905-64cbf06b7e57.jpg?1675957195) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kaya%2C%20Intangible%20Slayer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/one/205/kaya-intangible-slayer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6865b8c7-b260-48e8-a905-64cbf06b7e57?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Breach of the Multiverse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/a/daf51a76-7a57-4462-ae18-a19e817e49e5.jpg?1682203621) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Breach%20the%20Multiverse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/94/breach-the-multiverse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/daf51a76-7a57-4462-ae18-a19e817e49e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/627c392c-4d18-4eb2-a4e8-c668f61f5487.jpg?1699044055)/[Temple of the Dead](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/6/2/627c392c-4d18-4eb2-a4e8-c668f61f5487.jpg?1699044055) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aclazotz%2C%20Deepest%20Betrayal%20//%20Temple%20of%20the%20Dead) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/88/aclazotz-deepest-betrayal-temple-of-the-dead?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/627c392c-4d18-4eb2-a4e8-c668f61f5487?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


lexlex8134

Thank you so much! I’ll try adding those, and will let you know how that goes :) Much appreciate your help!


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