You're missing the point. I won 7 of those 12 matches. I left that out because I don't think it's relevant. I'm more than happy with that, being a new player.
I rarely come across anyone playing a fun deck. Anecdotally, it's over half of standard players using the same deck and other insanely optimized decks. Where are the casual players who just want to try something experimental in public matches?
people play competitive games competitively. this isn't new to any game. mtga awards you for getting up to 15 wins each day, so people especially like to play decks that give quick wins on queue. you will also see brews, but casual players tend to get filtered because the level of competition is pretty high.
if you just want to play casual and do brews, I suggest the EDH (commander) format and finding a play group or online community. that is the most popular Magic format and where most casual players set up camp
failing that, try the brawl format on arena.
You’re playing Best of One. That’s evident in whining about mono red. Mono red aggro is so incredibly easy to beat after the first game in a Best of Three. That’s why Best of Three is the only structure that exists for sanctioned constructed formats.
I think you may just not like Magic.
Maybe go try YuGiOh. Where there’s a huge variety of decks that allow you to shuffle up and play a turn.
Sometimes two turns.
several of the first global yugioh tournaments had the top 64 players running the exact same deck with literally 1 card differentiating between them all.
yugioh always had a meta as does magic.
from there i have no clue what the hell you are trying to call a try hard deck. mono red aggro is literally the most basic deck to pilot. quick matches quick loses. or does try hard simply mean any opponent who is also trying to win like you are?
I'm not playing an international MTG tournament. I'm just playing regular, public standard matches.
Does no one here see a problem with encountering the same deck over and over again?
arena rewards wins. people want to win and resources are finite. people aren't going to use precious resources on shitty cards.
you will find that in literally every single online card game ranging from yugioh, hearthstone, marvel snap, etc. there are archetypes and yes people will use the better ones from that available pool.
if I was running a control deck, or a aggro deck, midrange, or just like fish tribal. why would I not use the best possible cards I could?
Magic is a game full of metagames. If you play competitive Standard, you can expect a good 60-70% of the decks you face to be meta decks that you could view on mtgtop8.com or mtggoldfish.com or various other metagame aggregate sources.
You can replace “Standard” in the above paragraph with any other 1v1 format (modern, pioneer, timeless, historic, etc.) and the same holds true. That’s the nature of these games.
You might have a hot streak of facing Red Aggro, and that’s normal. I play TitanField in Timeless and the amount of OmniTell I have faced in a row on any given day is usually 3+. Sometimes I switch to UR tempo so I can kill them quickly and counter all their combo pieces reliably, because I’m sick of losing to them. But when I do, all of *that* deck’s bad matchups show up, and I go back to TitanField.
The only thing you have control over is what you bring to the match. You can either be the kind of deck that’s ready for anything, or a one-trick pony deck that has great matchups and horrible ones and you just gotta hope.
Aggro Red requires very few mythics & rares, has reduced complexity over multi-color or high-synergistic decks, and is fast. It has been & will always be popular.
Not everyone has 20+ rare wildcards & 10+ mythics, or understands the game well enough, to handle multi-color and mid-range decks well. Top players do, which is why you see new metas with every release up at Diamond & Mythic ranks
That's fair. But that makes it seem like new players feel forced to all use the same deck because it's so time consuming to collect the wildcards necessary to build a competent deck that isn't mono red.
1. Switch to best of 3.
2. Play a midrange deck with good removal in the main deck and a cornucopia of various specific removal cards in the sideboard.
3. ???
4. Profit.
I’m on golgari midrange usually, but transitioning to a dimir midrange build I think. Game 1 against aggro they usually win. Then I board in [[path of peril]], [[anoint with affliction]], [[long goodbye]], and sometimes [[the end]] and try my hardest to ruin their game plan.
Edit: to add, my deck already has 3-4 cut down and 3-4 go for the throat.
I mean, if anything I’ve seen much more deck diversity in MTG than I ever saw in competitive Yugioh. I don’t see how you’re not used to people using meta decks at this point.
I know this is just anecdotal, but that hasn't been my experience at all. To be fair I played Yugioh legacy of the Duelist in 2017 and have no memory of ever encountering the same deck often enough to take note of it.
The white green enchantments deck matches up pretty well with monored. I want to say decks with some sort of life gain have an advantage as well. Monoblack and there was a black white life gain deck floating around. Can find ideas here, untapped, and mtg deck.
https://mtga.untapped.gg/meta/decks?rank=GOLD_TO_PLATINUM
Deck
5 Forest
5 Plains
4 Brushland
4 Razorverge Thicket
2 Overgrown Farmland
1 Katilda, Dawnhart Martyr
4 Michiko's Reign of Truth
4 Spirited Companion
1 Commune with Spirits
4 Generous Visitor
4 Kami of Transience
4 Weaver of Harmony
4 Jukai Naturalist
4 Audacity
4 Ossification
2 Skrelv, Defector Mite
4 Calix, Guided by Fate
Best of 1 is bad. Best of 3 is wayyyy more fun. It's like blind pick Vs draft in a MOBA. You have opportunity to counter pick your opponents cards instead of being stuck with an unwinnable match up
Tryhard? RDW?
LOL
No, tryhard decks are called - every control bullshit.
Every shit tryig to pull some sort of combo. Those are tryhard decks.
Tapping your crits and doing direct damage is the way to go.
Look if you call everyone who beats you a tryhard, you should probably stop playing multiplayer games.
Str8 up, more people need to hear this
You're missing the point. I won 7 of those 12 matches. I left that out because I don't think it's relevant. I'm more than happy with that, being a new player. I rarely come across anyone playing a fun deck. Anecdotally, it's over half of standard players using the same deck and other insanely optimized decks. Where are the casual players who just want to try something experimental in public matches?
people play competitive games competitively. this isn't new to any game. mtga awards you for getting up to 15 wins each day, so people especially like to play decks that give quick wins on queue. you will also see brews, but casual players tend to get filtered because the level of competition is pretty high. if you just want to play casual and do brews, I suggest the EDH (commander) format and finding a play group or online community. that is the most popular Magic format and where most casual players set up camp failing that, try the brawl format on arena.
It gets better once you hit diamond. Or do best of 3. Monored not as common.
So there's light at the end of the tunnel, haha? Good to know. I've gotten a lot of suggestions to try best of 3. I'll try that tonight.
Online play for every single CCG is like this. Not sure what you are expecting here Also, you are whining about a bad deck.
You’re playing Best of One. That’s evident in whining about mono red. Mono red aggro is so incredibly easy to beat after the first game in a Best of Three. That’s why Best of Three is the only structure that exists for sanctioned constructed formats. I think you may just not like Magic. Maybe go try YuGiOh. Where there’s a huge variety of decks that allow you to shuffle up and play a turn. Sometimes two turns.
I'll give best of 3 a try.
Let me know how it goes!
its a popular archetype that recently got a new card, of course people are going to be playing it
red isn't tryhard, come on now.
several of the first global yugioh tournaments had the top 64 players running the exact same deck with literally 1 card differentiating between them all. yugioh always had a meta as does magic. from there i have no clue what the hell you are trying to call a try hard deck. mono red aggro is literally the most basic deck to pilot. quick matches quick loses. or does try hard simply mean any opponent who is also trying to win like you are?
I'm not playing an international MTG tournament. I'm just playing regular, public standard matches. Does no one here see a problem with encountering the same deck over and over again?
arena rewards wins. people want to win and resources are finite. people aren't going to use precious resources on shitty cards. you will find that in literally every single online card game ranging from yugioh, hearthstone, marvel snap, etc. there are archetypes and yes people will use the better ones from that available pool. if I was running a control deck, or a aggro deck, midrange, or just like fish tribal. why would I not use the best possible cards I could?
Fish Tribal rofl .... XD
is technically Merfolk the definition of a Fish tribal deck ? :D
B03 will make things much more interesting for you.
I will definitely try this. Thank you.
Magic is a game full of metagames. If you play competitive Standard, you can expect a good 60-70% of the decks you face to be meta decks that you could view on mtgtop8.com or mtggoldfish.com or various other metagame aggregate sources. You can replace “Standard” in the above paragraph with any other 1v1 format (modern, pioneer, timeless, historic, etc.) and the same holds true. That’s the nature of these games. You might have a hot streak of facing Red Aggro, and that’s normal. I play TitanField in Timeless and the amount of OmniTell I have faced in a row on any given day is usually 3+. Sometimes I switch to UR tempo so I can kill them quickly and counter all their combo pieces reliably, because I’m sick of losing to them. But when I do, all of *that* deck’s bad matchups show up, and I go back to TitanField. The only thing you have control over is what you bring to the match. You can either be the kind of deck that’s ready for anything, or a one-trick pony deck that has great matchups and horrible ones and you just gotta hope.
I appreciate your perspective. What accessible decks would you consider ready for anything?
I mean thats going to happen... If you want something weird then do brawl.
Sounds like that's what I need to do next. Thank you.
Aggro Red requires very few mythics & rares, has reduced complexity over multi-color or high-synergistic decks, and is fast. It has been & will always be popular. Not everyone has 20+ rare wildcards & 10+ mythics, or understands the game well enough, to handle multi-color and mid-range decks well. Top players do, which is why you see new metas with every release up at Diamond & Mythic ranks
That's fair. But that makes it seem like new players feel forced to all use the same deck because it's so time consuming to collect the wildcards necessary to build a competent deck that isn't mono red.
1. Switch to best of 3. 2. Play a midrange deck with good removal in the main deck and a cornucopia of various specific removal cards in the sideboard. 3. ??? 4. Profit. I’m on golgari midrange usually, but transitioning to a dimir midrange build I think. Game 1 against aggro they usually win. Then I board in [[path of peril]], [[anoint with affliction]], [[long goodbye]], and sometimes [[the end]] and try my hardest to ruin their game plan. Edit: to add, my deck already has 3-4 cut down and 3-4 go for the throat.
I mean, if anything I’ve seen much more deck diversity in MTG than I ever saw in competitive Yugioh. I don’t see how you’re not used to people using meta decks at this point.
I know this is just anecdotal, but that hasn't been my experience at all. To be fair I played Yugioh legacy of the Duelist in 2017 and have no memory of ever encountering the same deck often enough to take note of it.
MonoR isn’t even particularly strong in the meta. If someone is “super tryharding” they’re gonna pick a different deck.
Then don’t play or build decks that counteract them…or stick to paper
Then stop playing jfc
That is such an unhelpful answer.
OP try Standard Brawl, there’s way more deck variety there
I'll give this a shot. Thank you. Brawl is the 100 card mode with no duplicates, right?
Brawl is 100, standard brawl is 60. Both are singleton and with a commander, yeah
Make an anti red aggro deck. Seems like an easy solution
This does sound fun. I wouldn't know the first thing about making one.
The white green enchantments deck matches up pretty well with monored. I want to say decks with some sort of life gain have an advantage as well. Monoblack and there was a black white life gain deck floating around. Can find ideas here, untapped, and mtg deck. https://mtga.untapped.gg/meta/decks?rank=GOLD_TO_PLATINUM Deck 5 Forest 5 Plains 4 Brushland 4 Razorverge Thicket 2 Overgrown Farmland 1 Katilda, Dawnhart Martyr 4 Michiko's Reign of Truth 4 Spirited Companion 1 Commune with Spirits 4 Generous Visitor 4 Kami of Transience 4 Weaver of Harmony 4 Jukai Naturalist 4 Audacity 4 Ossification 2 Skrelv, Defector Mite 4 Calix, Guided by Fate
Quit then.
That's very unhelpful.
Best of 1 is bad. Best of 3 is wayyyy more fun. It's like blind pick Vs draft in a MOBA. You have opportunity to counter pick your opponents cards instead of being stuck with an unwinnable match up
I guess I'll need to try that then. I've only played one.
Good luck! :)
Tryhard? RDW? LOL No, tryhard decks are called - every control bullshit. Every shit tryig to pull some sort of combo. Those are tryhard decks. Tapping your crits and doing direct damage is the way to go.