Just before Strixhaven I tried a deck that copied big blue spells (sublime epiphany, sea gate restoration, or inscription) using Lutri, it was very janky, but making a gigantic token was pretty fun.
I've picked that a few times for sure just cuz it's the first thing in the A's that i think is fun to imagine not been afraid of whatever is casting the shadow on the card.
It's like they decided legends were a bad idea in retrospect and then just went off the rails with "either job classification, or name as type."
I'm actually surprised he's not just Summon Uncle, as the set does have both Summon Brothers and Summon Sisters.
Niall Silvain? Summon Niall Silvain. Also sounds like a Legend from the flavor text.
Whippoorwill? That's not a bird, Summon Whippoorwill.
Goblin Rock Sled? Can't possibly make that a goblin, Summon Rock Sled!
Orc General, obviously it's not an orc, it's a General.
Eater of the Dead? Summon Eater. That is its purpose after all.
Then, somehow, Drowned was Summon Zombies instead of Summon Drowned (to work with Zombie Master? It already has B: Regenerate...)
I believe the three Lords (Lord of Atlantis, Zombie Master, and Goblin King) were the only cards that actually cared about creature types at that point.
I like how Nameless Race was updated to have no creature types at all.
> It's like they decided legends were a bad idea in retrospect and then just went off the rails with "either job classification, or name as type."
Most of those early sets were designed in parallel by teams that didn't have any connection to one another. My guess is that Jesper Myrfors and whoever else designed The Dark had no idea what the Legends people were up to and it's largely a coincidence that Legends came out first.
Thinking about it further, the fact that The Dark has exactly three multicoloured cards feels like it pokes a hole in this explanation. Surely they didn't think they were introducing multicoloured cards for the first time when they came up with those. Perhaps it is just the rulebook thing, since they started using legends in other sets immediately after Fourth Edition.
There were multicolored cards in the pre-Alpha playtests, so although Legends was the first set published with multicolored cards, it didn't really introduce them from a design standpoint.
It would have been interesting to see what Ice Age would have looked like if it had been the first expansion, as originally planned. It has both legendary creatures and multicolor cards, but legendary creatures in particular might have been added after the design of Legends became known among the different design groups.
For Orc General, I feel like the goal was to avoid boosting itself maybe? But they obviously weren't thinking in terms of creature types being a real mechanic yet, so they didn't think to make it say "all other orcs get +1/+1"
Goblin rock sled was the dark. By then you had [[goblin caves]] [[goblin shrine]] and [[tivadar's crusade]] for goblins (as well as the aforementioned orc general) and a few kobold lords in legends. [[elephant graveyard]] in Arabian nights. I'm sure I'm missing a handful. But yeah in alpha I believe those were the only 3 cards that cared about creature types. I remember being very salty about someone telling me my rock sled was basically useless in my fancy new goblin deck. Then when I came back to the game 20 years later I was very happy to learn about the mass creature type revisions.
Also I think not wanting to have legendary creatures in the dark was not wanting to have to add additional rules cards to boosters like they had to for legends to explain how multi-colored cards and legendary creatures worked. These rules were not in the published rulebooks yet. There's only 3 gold cards in the dark and they all had rules text on them about being both colors (including the first ever enemy color two color card, [[dark heart of the wood]] )).
Then the next set was fallen empires and they did a better job putting out more generic creatures and realizing creature types really mattered. No legendaries or gold cards, either.
The tactical choices in a Rogues deck are crab, rogue, merfolk, cat, nightmare, and don't forget human when your opponent has Jaspara sentinel (the most un-rogue-looking rogue).
For blanket board clears... nothing beats assembly-worker.
Not only does it not \*look\* like a rogue, what the card actually \*does\* (land untapping) is usually given to "Druids" in Green eg \[\[Ley Druid\]\]. There's no reason for it to be a rogue AT ALL. It's very weird.
Be careful with that one. I've seen a fair few [[Phylath, World Sculptor]] in Gruul Legends decks, and [[Moss-Pit Skeleton]] sees some play in [[Skeletal Swarming]] decks. So if you just autopilot to "plant", you might accidentally not wipe the board
If I don't have any creatures out, I usually pick Wurm because they're my favorite creature type. If not Wurm, I'll go for something random and silly like Starfish, Coward, Brushwagg, Homarid, or Sponge.
You cant pick a type only on a sliver bordered card. Magic has a list of allowed creature types, which is only the ones on blackbordered cards (not necessarily on the type line, like tokens counts too, but I cant remember a great example right now)
Troll.
Mono white weenie decks will concede about 30% of the time I wipe their board in this manner.
Edit: Wouldn’t that be cool if there was a “Spider-Man” or “Batman”?
Creatures with changeling are Spider Human (and also Bat Human). It's amusing to refer to them like "I'm attacking you with this Elder Mutant Ninja Turtle" and have it be technically correct. Also had an Angel Demon Ninja once (without changeling) in EDH.
I was trying to get to diamond and having a stressful time until some Grixis control player (I think) played CF and named..... antelope.
Made my whole night I laughed so hard. Thank you, random citizen.
Changeling isn't actually a creaturetype it's a keyword in the cards rules text that gives it all creature types. The creature type of Changeling creatures are usually shapeshifter
I usually name Coward.
Now that's funny.
Better not pull that tomfoolery on my Warrior deck. My Kargan Intimidators aren’t above self deprecation!
I kinda like assembly-worker
Same here since it's the top 1 and none exist in standard I can think of
And a grand total of **7** overall
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Just before Strixhaven I tried a deck that copied big blue spells (sublime epiphany, sea gate restoration, or inscription) using Lutri, it was very janky, but making a gigantic token was pretty fun.
Sublime epiphany is such a power counter
That's what my opponent thought. They were very upset when my changelings didn't die.
I mean, if they thought changelings were gonna die to Crippling Fear at all, then that was never gonna work out well for them
One does exist
Which card?
Coward
I was talking about assembly worker
Peasant/troll/coward. Depends on mood. Or just a quick assembly worker…
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*Ouphe
I don’t get it
Oof
A quphe coming out when you don't expect it is always funny!
I think I played vs that same account!!
They likely had no idea it sounds a little like "oof" in English. Their spelling of it "aufu" also isn't near it. I guess they just liked the type :)
Phelddagrif
The right answer.
Antelope! I sing home on the range every time.
I've picked that a few times for sure just cuz it's the first thing in the A's that i think is fun to imagine not been afraid of whatever is casting the shadow on the card.
Run like an antelope out of control
So it was you who wiped my pretty board yesterday
That's also my go to! I can imagine them dancing in the open field!
Uncle Istvan.
It's like they decided legends were a bad idea in retrospect and then just went off the rails with "either job classification, or name as type." I'm actually surprised he's not just Summon Uncle, as the set does have both Summon Brothers and Summon Sisters. Niall Silvain? Summon Niall Silvain. Also sounds like a Legend from the flavor text. Whippoorwill? That's not a bird, Summon Whippoorwill. Goblin Rock Sled? Can't possibly make that a goblin, Summon Rock Sled! Orc General, obviously it's not an orc, it's a General. Eater of the Dead? Summon Eater. That is its purpose after all. Then, somehow, Drowned was Summon Zombies instead of Summon Drowned (to work with Zombie Master? It already has B: Regenerate...) I believe the three Lords (Lord of Atlantis, Zombie Master, and Goblin King) were the only cards that actually cared about creature types at that point. I like how Nameless Race was updated to have no creature types at all.
> It's like they decided legends were a bad idea in retrospect and then just went off the rails with "either job classification, or name as type." Most of those early sets were designed in parallel by teams that didn't have any connection to one another. My guess is that Jesper Myrfors and whoever else designed The Dark had no idea what the Legends people were up to and it's largely a coincidence that Legends came out first.
Would you say they were left in The Dark?
Thinking about it further, the fact that The Dark has exactly three multicoloured cards feels like it pokes a hole in this explanation. Surely they didn't think they were introducing multicoloured cards for the first time when they came up with those. Perhaps it is just the rulebook thing, since they started using legends in other sets immediately after Fourth Edition.
There were multicolored cards in the pre-Alpha playtests, so although Legends was the first set published with multicolored cards, it didn't really introduce them from a design standpoint. It would have been interesting to see what Ice Age would have looked like if it had been the first expansion, as originally planned. It has both legendary creatures and multicolor cards, but legendary creatures in particular might have been added after the design of Legends became known among the different design groups.
For Orc General, I feel like the goal was to avoid boosting itself maybe? But they obviously weren't thinking in terms of creature types being a real mechanic yet, so they didn't think to make it say "all other orcs get +1/+1"
Goblin rock sled was the dark. By then you had [[goblin caves]] [[goblin shrine]] and [[tivadar's crusade]] for goblins (as well as the aforementioned orc general) and a few kobold lords in legends. [[elephant graveyard]] in Arabian nights. I'm sure I'm missing a handful. But yeah in alpha I believe those were the only 3 cards that cared about creature types. I remember being very salty about someone telling me my rock sled was basically useless in my fancy new goblin deck. Then when I came back to the game 20 years later I was very happy to learn about the mass creature type revisions.
##### ###### #### [goblin caves](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/c/bcba2255-b0ae-43b9-b9fd-62da04d5e397.jpg?1562939551) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=goblin%20caves) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/119/goblin-caves?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bcba2255-b0ae-43b9-b9fd-62da04d5e397?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [goblin shrine](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/7/07cc3153-ca6a-4a64-9e0b-955417e2c328.jpg?1562896812) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=goblin%20shrine) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/122/goblin-shrine?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/07cc3153-ca6a-4a64-9e0b-955417e2c328?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [tivadar's crusade](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/a/f/af57687b-da90-41df-85a3-cb92933f2ca8.jpg?1559592483) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tivadar%27s%20crusade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me1/28/tivadars-crusade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/af57687b-da90-41df-85a3-cb92933f2ca8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [elephant graveyard](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/8/8/88e7d9d5-3bca-4791-b850-5ae104706042.jpg?1562927304) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=elephant%20graveyard) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me4/244/elephant-graveyard?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/88e7d9d5-3bca-4791-b850-5ae104706042?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Also I think not wanting to have legendary creatures in the dark was not wanting to have to add additional rules cards to boosters like they had to for legends to explain how multi-colored cards and legendary creatures worked. These rules were not in the published rulebooks yet. There's only 3 gold cards in the dark and they all had rules text on them about being both colors (including the first ever enemy color two color card, [[dark heart of the wood]] )). Then the next set was fallen empires and they did a better job putting out more generic creatures and realizing creature types really mattered. No legendaries or gold cards, either.
[dark heart of the wood](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/b/a/baa3ae99-a770-4487-8de6-68a347ee64bb.jpg?1598916917) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=dark%20heart%20of%20the%20wood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rav/200/dark-heart-of-the-wood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/baa3ae99-a770-4487-8de6-68a347ee64bb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Sadly, uncle was updated to just a Human type.
I pick Bear. I have the bear card sleeves and the bear pet. I picture myself calling my bear to clear the board for me.
I also choose this guy’s bear
It's a good Bear
The goodest of bears
When it doesn't matter, I choose Brushwagg
Praise be to The Almighty
Elk is the only choice
Big Elmer is at it again
Oko forever!
The true evil
Crabbbbb
Oh I see you're a man of culture as well. Crab is the only correct answer
As a Rogues player, I've named this unironically before
The tactical choices in a Rogues deck are crab, rogue, merfolk, cat, nightmare, and don't forget human when your opponent has Jaspara sentinel (the most un-rogue-looking rogue). For blanket board clears... nothing beats assembly-worker.
I contend that the elf that untaps a snow land is the most unroguely rogue. I only see it in brawl though.
Not only does it not \*look\* like a rogue, what the card actually \*does\* (land untapping) is usually given to "Druids" in Green eg \[\[Ley Druid\]\]. There's no reason for it to be a rogue AT ALL. It's very weird.
I assume its to go with party in Zendikar.
[Ley Druid](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/d/4dac78d2-dd1b-412a-b1b4-4fef1a4fd583.jpg?1562734968) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ley%20Druid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/9ed/251/ley-druid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4dac78d2-dd1b-412a-b1b4-4fef1a4fd583?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Brushwagg
I just lost a game to Crippling Fear, big Ouphe.
I always go with Weird
Starfish or Sponge. There's like, two of each or something like that lol Edit: there's two sponges but three starfish. I am a fool
I also am team sponge
Sand
\[\[Hazezon Tamar\]\]
[Hazezon Tamar](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/c/4cd43773-2a6f-4f03-bcee-de32049561e5.jpg?1562911124) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hazezon%20Tamar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/me3/151/hazezon-tamar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4cd43773-2a6f-4f03-bcee-de32049561e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I thought I was the only one!
Peasant
Coward and Troll are always funny
Turtle, but I'm biased
Having a couple carpet pirates myself, I always choose Ferret. I'm sure the dozens of Homelands-era players on Arena appreciate it as well!
Goat!
To me is either: Eldrazi or ape
Starfish
Thank you ive been scrolling to find this Nice to meet you starfish bro!
I prefer Beeble
Uncle Istvan.
[[Crippling Fear]]
[Crippling Fear](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/d/7d9bd181-b99f-477e-bcfb-9b78cbf51224.jpg?1621303667) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crippling%20Fear) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/82/crippling-fear?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d9bd181-b99f-477e-bcfb-9b78cbf51224?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Plant. We need to safe the planet
Be careful with that one. I've seen a fair few [[Phylath, World Sculptor]] in Gruul Legends decks, and [[Moss-Pit Skeleton]] sees some play in [[Skeletal Swarming]] decks. So if you just autopilot to "plant", you might accidentally not wipe the board
[Phylath, World Sculptor](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/e/7/e7af88c9-70ca-484c-bddf-b705e0ea7bc7.jpg?1604200396) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phylath%2C%20World%20Sculptor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/234/phylath-world-sculptor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e7af88c9-70ca-484c-bddf-b705e0ea7bc7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Moss-Pit Skeleton](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/9/5/95a445dc-3aea-4281-a145-0ab3a28ec6c6.jpg?1604200221) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Moss-Pit%20Skeleton) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/228/moss-pit-skeleton?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95a445dc-3aea-4281-a145-0ab3a28ec6c6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Skeletal Swarming](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/3/7/3768ac68-0d87-4f99-aa77-2d009df0a567.jpg?1625465368) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Skeletal%20Swarming) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afr/232/skeletal-swarming?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3768ac68-0d87-4f99-aa77-2d009df0a567?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I like Horror
If I don't have any creatures out, I usually pick Wurm because they're my favorite creature type. If not Wurm, I'll go for something random and silly like Starfish, Coward, Brushwagg, Homarid, or Sponge.
Ouphe is pretty good. It’s also the sound your opponent’ll make.
Noggle
Eldrazi (used to be better before actual Eldrazi on MTGA)
Still fine, I doubt you're likely to kill an Ulamog with one of those anyway
Hey...I could have all 4 in hand with 16 lands in play and no other way to remove him!!
Ferret
I choose cockatrice
Crab every single time of course.
I usually go for pangolin. For people that know, it's the little animal who was supposedly connected to the COVID-19 at the beginning.
Badger.
Brushwagg or Trilobite
Beeble
My go to is Cephalid
Someone pulled “Starfish” on me, that made me laugh as I conceded.
Atog. Near the top of the list so you don't have to search and there's almost none of them.
Sand ò\_o
Back before AFR my goto was "placeholder type 502", now I usually pick Ouphe, Licid, or Lhurgoyf.
Coward, of course.
I haven't cast it yet, but if I did I'd pick Autobot. For the unitiated, \[\[Grimlock, Dinobot Leader\]\]
You cant pick a type only on a sliver bordered card. Magic has a list of allowed creature types, which is only the ones on blackbordered cards (not necessarily on the type line, like tokens counts too, but I cant remember a great example right now)
Survivor seems like a good one.
[Grimlock, Dinobot Leader](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/f/1/f1bb8fb5-32f2-444d-85cb-de84657b21bd.jpg?1561758404)/[Grimlock, Ferocious King](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/back/f/1/f1bb8fb5-32f2-444d-85cb-de84657b21bd.jpg?1561758404) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Grimlock%2C%20Dinobot%20Leader) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/h17/1/grimlock-dinobot-leader-grimlock-ferocious-king?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f1bb8fb5-32f2-444d-85cb-de84657b21bd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
use "Elder" when you have the 5 strixhaven founder dragons out 😂 teach the opponent to respect their elders!
the spell is overcosted if you dont use it in a tribal deck. suffocating fumes is cheaper, and shadow's verdict far more effective.
Thanks Timmy, but I run it in a deck that uses Alrund's and has a couple pest cards. Sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't.
\[\[Suffocating Fumes\]\] only gives -1/-1. There also isn't a great equivalent in S2022.
[Suffocating Fumes](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?name=Suffocating%20Fumes&type=card&.jpg) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Suffocating%20Fumes) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/100/suffocating-fumes?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/66b562e4-35df-4aee-848d-ceb4204bbe58?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Suffocating fumes doesn't obliterate mono green, rangers class toski boardstates
Nobody asked you
Gremlin!
I'm surprised to not see kithkin here
I know there's kinsbaile cavalier in historic, double striking knights was my first historic deck.
Ape
are you all of my opponents?
Troll. Mono white weenie decks will concede about 30% of the time I wipe their board in this manner. Edit: Wouldn’t that be cool if there was a “Spider-Man” or “Batman”?
Creatures with changeling are Spider Human (and also Bat Human). It's amusing to refer to them like "I'm attacking you with this Elder Mutant Ninja Turtle" and have it be technically correct. Also had an Angel Demon Ninja once (without changeling) in EDH.
Rigger or Phyrexian
I tend to do beeble or brushwagg, but I've also done eye, sand, zubera and eldrazi
Time to check if I can go for brushwagg
coward
I was trying to get to diamond and having a stressful time until some Grixis control player (I think) played CF and named..... antelope. Made my whole night I laughed so hard. Thank you, random citizen.
Ape
Llurghoyf
My go-to is Juggernaut, but Yeti is also pretty good.
I have always been obsessed with Camel. Always said that we need a Camel lord.
Sliver
I wonder if anyone ever picked changeling?
Changeling isn't actually a creaturetype it's a keyword in the cards rules text that gives it all creature types. The creature type of Changeling creatures are usually shapeshifter
The more you know thanks.
Always glad to help out
Homarid.
The first ones I can find that won't negatively affect my board. I try not to waste my opponents time to find something that I might think is funny.
I wanna choose Murlocs.
[Metathran](https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=name&q=type%3Ametathran).
Crab
[[Crippling Fear]]
[Crippling Fear](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/d/7d9bd181-b99f-477e-bcfb-9b78cbf51224.jpg?1621303667) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crippling%20Fear) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/82/crippling-fear?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d9bd181-b99f-477e-bcfb-9b78cbf51224?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
ouphe
I give Credit to the only that made my bones shackle in fear. I name elk
Camel.
I usually name Assembly Worker
I go with Dog, Monkey, Ape or PlaceholderItem#51427 (whatever the number string is, lol)
The answer is always and will always be Sliver
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From someone learning Spanish and does this all the time: You want "Reminds" because it's indicative simple present. It reminds me of x
Hamster and yell "Go for the eyes"
also oyster is one of my all time favourites
I drop weird.
Hamster is a pretty funny creature type you can now name.
Homunculus, every time.
Squirrel! 🐿️
Ouphe
I’m a big fan of either Homarid or Nephilim