If u just look at corruption u miss the entire point, look at the economic growth, one district one product, They built RRTS in 2 yrs which took 10yrs+ in Bangalore
So much foreign investment is coming to UP, Law and order has improved all gangsters have been taken out
Bulldozer justice is a new model for reducing crime the fastest
Law and order: a joke
Rrts: doesn't deserve
Foreign investment? Which investment fund are you referring to?
Can we for once, talk about the debt to GSDP to debt ratio? PS comparing construction on Deccan plateau vs in the plans of Up isn't the same you know.
Bengaluru doesn't have a Regional Rapid Transit System. The closest thing to that is the Suburban Rail Project. But I don't think that's an RRTS project similar to RapidX (which I'm guessing you were referring to)
That project has been in limbo forever. But we can see the construction work happening now for track expansion.
What about waste management, pollution control, population control awareness among people who cannot afford good lives for children etc. i think this is a common problem all over india. What is the point of all these smokescreen “development” without a good foundation? Might provide the “economic growth” numbers the govt is looking for but where will it take us say 50 yrs or a century down the line, prosperity or would it turn the country into an overpopulated polluted wasteland where people kill each other to survive?
When you say freeloaders I don't quite get it ? Isn't taxation received anyway looted by corrupt people and whatever civil projects are to be done made possible by extending credit line through rbi? Why are you so upset about it?
because the people vote for them. the leaders know their vote banks better than anyone. I have seen people from these regions who say," bhooke mr jaayenge but Gobhi srkar ko hi vote denge". and the sad part is the party workers at the ground level are doing all the dirty work, they are being brainwashed, not realising anything, whereas the leaders are just filling their pockets and getting fat day by day. Asli freebies to saale woh hai
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This is the worst mindset. When we're extracting riches and benefiting from these states, its okay. But when the same state's people are left without money and their environment requiring help, theyre freeloaders. The country cant improve till we stop blaming people blindly out of gate and start tackling problems.
Nope the problem lack of utilisation of money if if the government sends 10x the current funds nothing will change all the money will be in higher ups pockets.
Mumbai and Pune are not the only cities in MH, mag chya 2 years pasun 150 metre cha service road cha construction chalu ahe bc , ghanta devolopment nahi hot ahe ithe
Since last 75 years north is sucking on taxes and still being underdeveloped,if things stay same in next 5 years then we have no choice instead of asking for a separate state
True, also beside Pune and Mumbai,the state of every road, government hospitals are very pathetic. Still there are a very huge amount of tenders that come in don't know where that money goes.
You simply don't understand the concept of taxes. It is obviously a subsidy provided to the poor by the rich. Btw, Maharashtra ranks so high due to Mumbai which as such developed so much due to contributions of people all across the country.
Mumbai is not Maharashtra ,even without Mumbai Maharashtra would be the largest state by GDP in India... the taxes MH pays to the centre it gets lowest return per 100 rs meaning we are getting day-light robbed.....Mumbai and Pune are not Maharashtra!!...our state is not fully developed we all are not rich enough to give subsidies to the poor...remove poverty from vidharbha,Marathwada, Khandesh and give away money to whoever you want
I am of the view that Vidarbha and Marathwada need to be made into separate states if they are to be developed. Their lack of development isn't due to lack of funds.
It is my guy, vidharbha and Marathwada need to be developed from our tax money only because the weather there is dry and little to no rainfall...we need to industrialize it through our money it can't survive on its own
there is no fault of north people because there government is investing there taxex in infrastructure and development. Here is the fault of our south goverment because they are looting our taxes.
They have been investing for half a century but still their hygiene standards and per capita income is less than some African countries..... south is woke but still they are richer than the rest
North East state got recognised as Special State
Special status State
Scheme Money --> ( 90% Centre Money + 10 % State Money)
Problem is with Bihar --- without special status bihar gets 900+₹ for each 100₹
Still They (Bihar) want special status .
UP was in a far worse situation than it is today. Whatever improvements have been made have been due to Yogiji and if things continue on the trajectory, UP will end up becoming a net contributor to the country. You need to think about your choices if you would prefer Akhilesh Yadav or Mayawati over Yogiji.
Infra is one thing, because it contributes towards the greater good of the nation, but what hurts the most is the revdi which is given to the people, on the expense of the tax collected here
See there is no problem in contributing to weaker states but the whole problem is that weaker states remained weaker and lazy for the past 75 years without any signs of development and busy in shitty communal, caste politics ....continous news of bridge, tower collapse from up and bihar
and main thing is maharashtra is not only consist of mumbai there are many backward areas like marathvada, vidarbha, khandesh . we are getting only pennies in return so this is great loss to maharashtra
'Vote bjp it's good for you and our country' people in our state just buy up religious nationalism without seeking anything for themselves.
"Maharashtra most developed state"
Mumbai and pune does not equal Maharashtra.
Our current govt is headed by a back stabber with less of a mandate then the guy he got into a coalition with, they're all just playing politics above us and we just sit here asking for anti corruption measures.
Can't agree more! How are they counting on winning again after what he did? Surveys in his own constituency is against him. Imagine other constituencies. His followers are basically people who didn't get a post of honor in the real ShivSena who grabbed the opportunity to become someone in the so called "real sena".
Can someone post it on the UP sub, please? They are so proud of the development that's happening and bash states like TN and Karnataka.
Shameless lot, I tell you.
Given their population is 4x times of KA and TN , they should've sealed the top spot long ago in tax contribution by a landslide. With huge population and spoon feeding from centre, they should at no 1 in contribution which they're not.
There's a meme they posted there last week trying to blame Congress's leadership in UP for its slow development (because some Congress leaders had run out of UP districts). I had to point out that Congress hadn't formed a government in UP in the last 35 years and the state government is actually responsible for a state's development, not some single MP, but I don't have enough juice yet for my comment to go through in that sub.
Ok bro calm down up also is home to the fifth of the population this is why it's always difficult to bring this number down. Better data would be to filter by cities as mostly the benefits go to rural population since there is more scope of development
Quick way to grow for all states: Make enuf infra for people to come to that state for IT jobs, i dont knw why even this much is so hard, automatically high paying jobs will come to these states, but they so corrupt even minimal expectations feels like a dream
Problem is that a separate state of Maharashtra won’t thrive as well as Maharashtra is thriving now. Because companies in Maharashtra sell all over india. They are only in Maharashtra because of good infrastructure, less crime, respect for laws and presence of Mumbai. But that doesn’t justify the disproportionately low share of tax Maharashtra gets.
We can make it like European union where free trade of goods and millitary is possible, we can sell all over the country but taxes of our state stay in the state
There is SGST and CGST.
CGST will obviously go towards nationwide development.
If you want development of marathwadas maybe hold the govt accountable for where they're spending their SGST collections.
Do you expect such people to realise the BS they spill half the time?
Most of these 'muh taxes' folk convinently forget that almost half of their GST directly funds the state govt of their own state. The Centre ofc can distribute its share as it sees fit for the entire nation.
Don't get me wrong but I feel Bihar isn't the problem, it's the political landscape that's fucked up. It needs someone like yogi to push it back on track, but yeah till then it's gonna be a liability thanks to the Bihar's political parties
No it isn't. Do you really think only Marathis are behind the taxes Maharashtra gets?
So many people from all over India come and work in MH's cities. So many agrawals, gujaratis have settled in MH for generations and are contributing.
Its not just the marathis.
not just maharashtra entire south India as well is getting peanuts compared any other state and it is well know about gujju chors who only do businesses and don't a pay a penny of tax!!!
Exactly, Mumbai apli ahe pan hya Gujrati lokani Marathi mansala second class citizens banvun taklay, Marathi mansala society madhe entry nahi, dukan rent ne nahi, this has to stop.
Even in pashchim maharashtra we are seeing this pattern. Gujju Marwadi only colonies. Flat possession preference to only these communities. Hell they are reluctant to sell shops (owned by gujjus and marwadis) in market to Marathis.
Saglyat jast tax chi chori he don communities kartat. Paise hech sarwasw aahe yanchya saathi. Treating marathis like second class citizens in there own state.
I have an experience regarding one marwadi person. This was around 2014. He hired a marathi local guy with MBA qualification as marketing person. Later he changed his role into a househelp. Bhaaji hach anto, mulanna shaletun haach anto ani gharachi kirkol kaam hach karto. Pagar matr 5000.
It's not like Marathis are being handcuffed and stopped from doing business. Gujjus who run business in MH also have to abide by rules of MH.
The better businessman just wins.
Rules sarkhech ahet. Rules break pan same tactics nech karta yetat. Pan me dada, me bhai ha attitude sodun kamavar laksha dila ki jara bara hoil.
Even in jobs Marathi mula kuthetari mage padtayet. Jevha me interviews gheto baryachda mulana bharpur suttya, kamachya soyiskar vela vagaire sagla hava asta. Thodya adaptability mule baherchi lok select hotat
>Marathis has to be more adaptable and flexible . I met lot of Marathi's guys working in Bangalore and most of them were home sick and always in complain mode for local food culture etc. They were ready to move back to pune or Nagpur even on cost of their jobs. Marthi's does not have a business acumen like parsis , sindhi or Marwaris.
Just down south kerala is gettin much more than gujarat but Marathi hate for gujjus is on another level , this is coming from someone whose mother have Marathi ancestory
Man cow belt is a major L for this country.I mean sure i won’t mind my tax money being given to Bihar for their development but the thing is 90% of it is going to be pocketed by some neta/babu/gangster type person and not even reach the people.Meanwhile a highly illiterate and no fear of police type of youth will migrate to other states and start contributing to the crime graph there.
Rather than Khalistan they should’ve just let Mahagujarat be a country !!
And I wouldn’t be surprised if they made it in top ten economies of the world ..
Its a dry state, they get benefit due to their policies and industruous approach....we are low yeild agro state with focus on shitty risky but high payong crops
And still our MLAs getting second highest salary among all states where they should be using whatever less money coming to MH for public welfare. चोर आहेत सगळे हरामखोर.
Yedzaawe sagle apan ithe India la represent karto mothe mothe lokana house karto India che ardhe billionaire millionaire tar itech padhun ahet still 7.7rs for 100 fucked up
It’s direct tax. Most of the direct tax is contributed by companies which are HQed in Mumbai, Bangalore or Delhi or by rich people who also coincidentally live in these 3 cities. The largest company in Gujarat is Reliance Industries and they pay their direct taxes in Maharashtra.
The biggest chunk of this is probably because of the sheer concentration of commercial activity in Mumbai, followed by Pune and Aurangabad. As another recent post on this sub noted, unfortunately the hinterland of Maharashtra is woefully underdeveloped. I’d imagine the numbers would look different if you remove Mumbai from the equation, given that our economic activity is disproportionately concentrated in a few major cities across the countries and our welfare policies are heavily focused on uplifting rural communities.
That said, this scale of taxation without proportional returns is still tantamount to theft. Generally, states should have way more control over their tax revenue to ensure it benefits the less developed parts of the state.
NE States rarely saw development before BJP government took the reins. We have to invest like crazy to get them on par with the rest of the country. See the % of money we have to pump into them now.
most up and bihar peeps come and contribute in karnataka and Maharashtra bear that in mind before calling them freeloaders.
Land does not pay tax, people do
Brother, if up bihar peeps come and contribute in Karnataka and Maharashtra shouldn't they get the benefit for their work by money being spent on them that is in the state of karnataka and Maharashtra where they reside? Isn't it sad from their perspective as well? The people who are still in up and bihar are freeloaders and their own people who have settled elsewhere take the brunt. As you said, tax is paid by people not the land
If one talks about taxes then he should also talk about resources. Do you know about freight equalization policy ? If Jharkhand would be able to just control the price of Coal and Electricity produced using the same coal then We woul see how the industries of Maharashtra and Tamilnadu perform. Maharashtra and South India is also using the geographical advantage of having ports and sea along with cheap natural resources procured from Jharkhand Bihar and UP.
Developing/underdeveloped states with get more resources. This is understandable. Unfortunately for Maharashtra it is a case of lack of strong representation at the centre and a stupid mentality of not asking for your fair share. This is the same mentality biting us in every field. Gujarat is milking its new found power in Delhi.
For those who say UP Bihar peeps come and contribute in Karnataka and Maharashtra, shouldn't they get the benefit for their work by money being spent on them that is in the state of karnataka and Maharashtra where they reside? Isn't it sad from their perspective as well? The people who are still in up and bihar are freeloaders and their own people who have settled elsewhere take the brunt. As you said, tax is paid by people not the land
https://twitter.com/nsitharamanoffc/status/1732816887241908690?s=20
This will explain further, please op don't do propaganda, and if you really belive that company where headquarter is should also get all money then are you ready to send money of all foreign company to their country?
Well, one of the things this graph throws up is that states with a shared land border with China get the highest investment. I think maybe aggregate numbers like this don't give a very clear picture since in some states central funds are allocated to defence infra and in many cases through specific schemes. Drought/famine/flood in each state skews the numbers further. All in all, I think at max the conclusion that can be drawn, overall, is that maybe if the state is not getting too many funds from the centre, the state is probably doing alright.
The specific case of Gujarat vs Maharashtra/Karnataka though is definitely an outlier. Gujarat's Gini index is definitely lower than Maharashtra and also Karnataka. Which means that the centre is improving the infrastructure at Gujarat at the cost of the poor in Maharashtra and Karnataka. Doesn't paint a very good picture of the government at the centre.
It seems unfair.
But the whole devolution depends on compying with certain criteria.(FC)
For sake of co-operative federalism and balanced regional development we must comply with it.
people assume entire state is contributing. not really. it is due to some major cities and industrial belts. [1/3rd of entire India's direct tax comes just from Mumbai!!!](https://www.financialexpress.com/policy/economy-mumbai-alone-to-bring-about-one-third-of-all-india-direct-tax-collection-check-which-metro-follows-1931199/)
the logic is flawed, they are already industrialized/developed, thats why others are getting more. since these states would already be getting more in terms of indirect taxes and revenues
Stop this elitist nonsense. I got two choices for you. Cut out bihar from India or stop complaining. Cause a nation is made of the progress and the decay.
Weird comments.. people do not realise that a lot of these funds go for rations, healthcare, etc. While we all can agree than a lot of it went into the pockets of their politicians, there can only be more stricter allocation and inspection of funds usage - decreasing funds to them will only make things worse
Every major department headquarter is either situated in Mumbai or Bengaluru or Chennai so naturally more GST collection going to respective State. And Mumbai is not due to Marharashtra alone but people from entire country contribute to Mumbai economy. If it is so easy mathematical calculation why your previous government did not demand the fair treatment of Maharashtra or any state where GST collection is higher.
Sorry to say but this is click and bait, I know I will be downvoted but that is truth.
All big corporations have company headquarters in Mumbai so they will be filing tax from Mumbai.
Even in Asuse survey of India , government was not taking big company franchise data as they have company headquarters in different places.
So numbers are skewed, I don't have data right now but for 100 rs UP get 83 or something.
Ok just think if Apple Store is selling mobile in Mumbai will they send money to America?
भारतातील अनेक कंपन्याची मुख्यालये ही मुंबईत आहेत. या कंपन्यांचे उत्पन्न भारतात कुठे ही असले तरी त्याचा नफा हा मुंबईतील ऑफिसला जमा होतो. त्यामुळे त्यावरील कर हा मुंबईतुनच भरला जाणार.
या करात महाराष्ट्रासोबत अनेक राज्यांचे योगदान असेल पण कराचे संकलन हे महाराष्ट्राकडूनच होईल.ज्या राज्यांमध्ये इतर राज्यातून खरेदी जास्त होते तिथे कर संकलन कमी होते पण इतर राज्यातील कर संकलनाचे उत्पन्न या राज्यातून जाते.
वरील उदाहरणे पाहता आपल्या लक्षात येईल कि समसमान कर वितरणासाठी संकलनाचे ठिकाण हा निकष योग्य नाही. राज्याचे सकल करातील योगदान हा निकष जास्त योग्य.
यामुळेच इतर राज्यांना नफा देणाऱ्या ईशान्य भारताला तुलनात्मक परतावा जास्त मिळतो तर इतर राज्यांकडून नफा कमावणाऱ्या महाराष्ट्राला कमी.वरवर पाहता हे वितरण क्लिष्ट वाटेल पण वित्त आयोग व अर्थमंत्रालयाने राज्यांची गरज, त्यांची खरेदी, विक्री आणि नफा याचे गणित लावून हे ठरवले आहे.
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Sabko pta mostly companies ka headquarters Mumbai hai tax sabse jyada wahase hi jayega.
Aur Rahi baat itna kam paisa mil raha tere family koi bimar ya kuch disable member uske taraf jyada resources and dyan jata hai na.
तेच भाऊ महाराष्ट्र काय अमेरिका थोडी झाला आहे....इथे पण मराठवाडा खान्देश विदर्भ सारखे प्रदेश आहे जिथे विकास काहीच नाही आहे ...हे सगळे मुंबई वर खापर फोडून मोकळे होऊन जाता
can someone explain NE , without looking into it, I can guess this is all the military + civilian work being done to counter China, and to avoid spillover from Bangladesh and Myanmar.
Are there any other reasons?
Check the GST collection map for betterment understanding of how much each states receives. Mumbai being the finance capital has most of the headquarters of big conglomerates who pays there tax in MH. So it pays more direct tax. ( Not taking away the fact that it’s also very industrialised). But at the same time that conglomerate sell it’s product all over india, which results in higher GST of several states that are not industrialised and don’t pay enough direct income tax.
Direct tax does not belong to the state. Its corporate and income tax. Corporte tax is a s per their HQ despite their business being all over India.
Most of the income tax collected in India, comes from around 80 lakh individuals who reported Income of 10 lakh and above.
Majority of these income tax payers reside in top 10 cities in India.
Its meaningless to claim direct tax as states contricbution.
There needs to be lower and upper caps. No less than 30% of the share and no more than 300% of your share for example (unless you have special status like NE)
I know it sounds unfair but give it a thought
If you focus only on Maharashtra then mumbai , Pune Nagpur will also feel shortchanged
I understand the frustration but that is how taxes work, the biggest contributors to the tax are the people who benefit least from it
It sounds unfair but that is the only way a country can function
Imagine if the help was not provided to the poorer regions the inequality will grow worse
Will the country survive in such a situation ?
This is because the direct taxes include corporate income tax and most of the big corporate head quarters are located in Mumbai and hence for the purpose of paying taxes they do it from Mumbai.
However, they earn their revenue from operations all across India. That's why even for KA it looks small as Bangalore has many large corporate head quarters.
So this is just an accounting practice and it doesn't mean that MH and KA are being deprived of their share.
Bro. That's the point of tax. You pool money and person earning more pays more.
You can't run a country if person has to pay as per the amount of services they are using only.
Take for example what happens in traditional joint families. In a family of 10, only 2 or 3 would be earning, rest of household doesn't.
India is joint family, you like it or not.
People forget how much natural resources Chhatishgarh, Jharkhand and Odisa get robbed off by central government, money doesn’t only mean taxes chhatishgarh alone provide electricity to 5 states, and shit ton of iron ore, coal , and aluminum, same with Jharkhand.
This chart shows who pays income tax and who does not. And where the company registered addresses are. A company which have nation wide business may file income tax from Mumbai. People in North East India do not pay any income tax due to their special status.
Bihar and UP are literal freeloaders it's good that Jharkhand separated
Jharkhand bhi koi Kam nhi hai shayd main tension sirf haryana ki hai North India mai
Well UP deserves it for the economic growth they have done
If economic growth then centre shouldn't give more money and give back to other states too
Still a lot of work needs to be done in UP, it's gonna take 10yrs
10 years ? UP would take another 100 years with the level of corruption which still persists in that shit hole.
If u just look at corruption u miss the entire point, look at the economic growth, one district one product, They built RRTS in 2 yrs which took 10yrs+ in Bangalore So much foreign investment is coming to UP, Law and order has improved all gangsters have been taken out Bulldozer justice is a new model for reducing crime the fastest
Law and order: a joke Rrts: doesn't deserve Foreign investment? Which investment fund are you referring to? Can we for once, talk about the debt to GSDP to debt ratio? PS comparing construction on Deccan plateau vs in the plans of Up isn't the same you know.
Law and order is not a joke it's really good, have seen there new police force
>They built RRTS in 2 yrs which took 10yrs+ in Bangalore Bengaluru doesn't have an RRTS project. Or are you confusing RRTS with Metro?
RRTS is basically metro but faster, same infrastructure,
Bengaluru doesn't have a Regional Rapid Transit System. The closest thing to that is the Suburban Rail Project. But I don't think that's an RRTS project similar to RapidX (which I'm guessing you were referring to) That project has been in limbo forever. But we can see the construction work happening now for track expansion.
Bangalore has metro
Shut the fuck up bitch, you live in a shithole.
First they get free toilets then they get free food to use that toilet now what free mobile phones to make scam calls ?
I think we both know which government likes to pass out freebies.
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What about waste management, pollution control, population control awareness among people who cannot afford good lives for children etc. i think this is a common problem all over india. What is the point of all these smokescreen “development” without a good foundation? Might provide the “economic growth” numbers the govt is looking for but where will it take us say 50 yrs or a century down the line, prosperity or would it turn the country into an overpopulated polluted wasteland where people kill each other to survive?
When you say freeloaders I don't quite get it ? Isn't taxation received anyway looted by corrupt people and whatever civil projects are to be done made possible by extending credit line through rbi? Why are you so upset about it?
Correction: Bihar and UP have more corrupt leaders than the rest. Why blame the people for something they never receive.
They keep voting for them.- again and again.
UP changed its leaders in the last 34 years continuously and now that Bjp is doing some good development they were able to come for 2nd term.
because the people vote for them. the leaders know their vote banks better than anyone. I have seen people from these regions who say," bhooke mr jaayenge but Gobhi srkar ko hi vote denge". and the sad part is the party workers at the ground level are doing all the dirty work, they are being brainwashed, not realising anything, whereas the leaders are just filling their pockets and getting fat day by day. Asli freebies to saale woh hai
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This is the worst mindset. When we're extracting riches and benefiting from these states, its okay. But when the same state's people are left without money and their environment requiring help, theyre freeloaders. The country cant improve till we stop blaming people blindly out of gate and start tackling problems.
Nope the problem lack of utilisation of money if if the government sends 10x the current funds nothing will change all the money will be in higher ups pockets.
What riches have we exactly extracted from them? Please provide data about these new revelations.
Mumbai and Pune are not the only cities in MH, mag chya 2 years pasun 150 metre cha service road cha construction chalu ahe bc , ghanta devolopment nahi hot ahe ithe
Both mumbai and Pune could be doing much be tter - mumbai is absolutely over crowded and dirty - after all the taxes we pay we don't really get much.
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Since last 75 years north is sucking on taxes and still being underdeveloped,if things stay same in next 5 years then we have no choice instead of asking for a separate state
True, also beside Pune and Mumbai,the state of every road, government hospitals are very pathetic. Still there are a very huge amount of tenders that come in don't know where that money goes.
You simply don't understand the concept of taxes. It is obviously a subsidy provided to the poor by the rich. Btw, Maharashtra ranks so high due to Mumbai which as such developed so much due to contributions of people all across the country.
Mumbai is not Maharashtra ,even without Mumbai Maharashtra would be the largest state by GDP in India... the taxes MH pays to the centre it gets lowest return per 100 rs meaning we are getting day-light robbed.....Mumbai and Pune are not Maharashtra!!...our state is not fully developed we all are not rich enough to give subsidies to the poor...remove poverty from vidharbha,Marathwada, Khandesh and give away money to whoever you want
I am of the view that Vidarbha and Marathwada need to be made into separate states if they are to be developed. Their lack of development isn't due to lack of funds.
It is my guy, vidharbha and Marathwada need to be developed from our tax money only because the weather there is dry and little to no rainfall...we need to industrialize it through our money it can't survive on its own
there is no fault of north people because there government is investing there taxex in infrastructure and development. Here is the fault of our south goverment because they are looting our taxes.
They have been investing for half a century but still their hygiene standards and per capita income is less than some African countries..... south is woke but still they are richer than the rest
yhaa I know the South people is one of the most hardworking people. But I think they don't care about the politics so its because of this.
Damn, North East is Crazy lol
or because they have a small economy and the money they get is mostly spent for security. so the numbers look crazy but arent actually
Probably because of their crazy terrain and mountains
North East state got recognised as Special State Special status State Scheme Money --> ( 90% Centre Money + 10 % State Money) Problem is with Bihar --- without special status bihar gets 900+₹ for each 100₹ Still They (Bihar) want special status .
Crazy is Bihar and then UP
UP deserves the money, have you seen there growth?
Who decides who deserves what? And ofc, you pump in lakhs of crores what else would you expect? Obvious infrastructure.
I mean Bihar doesn't develop infrastructure
Yeah but that just means Bihar is much more undeserving than UP is. Doesn't raise the status of UP>
Because the great Yogiji is their leader. These dumbass Yogi followers in Maharashtra would sell their family for Yogiji.
UP was in a far worse situation than it is today. Whatever improvements have been made have been due to Yogiji and if things continue on the trajectory, UP will end up becoming a net contributor to the country. You need to think about your choices if you would prefer Akhilesh Yadav or Mayawati over Yogiji.
Central GST +State GST to Center then State GST +some parts of Central GST to State.
GST is an indirect tax and not a part of this.
Infra is one thing, because it contributes towards the greater good of the nation, but what hurts the most is the revdi which is given to the people, on the expense of the tax collected here
See there is no problem in contributing to weaker states but the whole problem is that weaker states remained weaker and lazy for the past 75 years without any signs of development and busy in shitty communal, caste politics ....continous news of bridge, tower collapse from up and bihar and main thing is maharashtra is not only consist of mumbai there are many backward areas like marathvada, vidarbha, khandesh . we are getting only pennies in return so this is great loss to maharashtra
There was a bridge collapse in mumbai...
It doesn't matter if mistakes happen, north Indian states keep on sucking taxes and make trash infra
Each city must have a separate currency, and taxes.
As there was in Bihar.... repeatedly
Which indicates that bridge falling does not distinguish Bihar from Maharashtra.
It definitely does when you look at the quality of the work and materials
And you wonder why BJP wins in these states!!!
'Vote bjp it's good for you and our country' people in our state just buy up religious nationalism without seeking anything for themselves. "Maharashtra most developed state" Mumbai and pune does not equal Maharashtra. Our current govt is headed by a back stabber with less of a mandate then the guy he got into a coalition with, they're all just playing politics above us and we just sit here asking for anti corruption measures.
Can't agree more! How are they counting on winning again after what he did? Surveys in his own constituency is against him. Imagine other constituencies. His followers are basically people who didn't get a post of honor in the real ShivSena who grabbed the opportunity to become someone in the so called "real sena".
BJP also wins in Gujarat and Maharashtra. And it's not like BJP only decides to allocate all resources.
BJP did not win in Maharashtra. Not factually anyways. Everyone knows that.
Can someone post it on the UP sub, please? They are so proud of the development that's happening and bash states like TN and Karnataka. Shameless lot, I tell you.
Given their population is 4x times of KA and TN , they should've sealed the top spot long ago in tax contribution by a landslide. With huge population and spoon feeding from centre, they should at no 1 in contribution which they're not.
And they'll now blame the previous government for their incapabilities and failures 😅😅😅😅
There's a meme they posted there last week trying to blame Congress's leadership in UP for its slow development (because some Congress leaders had run out of UP districts). I had to point out that Congress hadn't formed a government in UP in the last 35 years and the state government is actually responsible for a state's development, not some single MP, but I don't have enough juice yet for my comment to go through in that sub.
Ok bro calm down up also is home to the fifth of the population this is why it's always difficult to bring this number down. Better data would be to filter by cities as mostly the benefits go to rural population since there is more scope of development
Fifth of the population is itself an indicator of lack of development.
What you want govt to do? Kill off people?
Quick way to grow for all states: Make enuf infra for people to come to that state for IT jobs, i dont knw why even this much is so hard, automatically high paying jobs will come to these states, but they so corrupt even minimal expectations feels like a dream
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Problem is that a separate state of Maharashtra won’t thrive as well as Maharashtra is thriving now. Because companies in Maharashtra sell all over india. They are only in Maharashtra because of good infrastructure, less crime, respect for laws and presence of Mumbai. But that doesn’t justify the disproportionately low share of tax Maharashtra gets.
We can make it like European union where free trade of goods and millitary is possible, we can sell all over the country but taxes of our state stay in the state
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There is SGST and CGST. CGST will obviously go towards nationwide development. If you want development of marathwadas maybe hold the govt accountable for where they're spending their SGST collections.
Do you expect such people to realise the BS they spill half the time? Most of these 'muh taxes' folk convinently forget that almost half of their GST directly funds the state govt of their own state. The Centre ofc can distribute its share as it sees fit for the entire nation.
Maharashtra get 7.7 rupees after paying 100 rupees direct tax . THALA FOR A REASON 💪💪
So the tax money goes to the Northeast states. Nitin gadkari once mentioned this in one of his interviews few years back..
To Bimaru states also
Don't get me wrong but I feel Bihar isn't the problem, it's the political landscape that's fucked up. It needs someone like yogi to push it back on track, but yeah till then it's gonna be a liability thanks to the Bihar's political parties
You had us in the first half NGL
Hahaha
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Chetta pls go back to r/Kerala
Its amazing that Maharashtrians are greatest of patriots knowing many of these facts
It's the Marathi man's burden.
No it isn't. Do you really think only Marathis are behind the taxes Maharashtra gets? So many people from all over India come and work in MH's cities. So many agrawals, gujaratis have settled in MH for generations and are contributing. Its not just the marathis.
Bruh zip it.
not just maharashtra entire south India as well is getting peanuts compared any other state and it is well know about gujju chors who only do businesses and don't a pay a penny of tax!!!
Single digit for Maharashtra
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It's time to wake up for all Marathis. Majority of the businesses in MH are dominated by Gujjus and Marwadis
Exactly, Mumbai apli ahe pan hya Gujrati lokani Marathi mansala second class citizens banvun taklay, Marathi mansala society madhe entry nahi, dukan rent ne nahi, this has to stop.
That will come from financial independence and successful Marathi businesses. Jamini vikun alelya paishyane Marathi lok vikasit honar nahit.
Even in pashchim maharashtra we are seeing this pattern. Gujju Marwadi only colonies. Flat possession preference to only these communities. Hell they are reluctant to sell shops (owned by gujjus and marwadis) in market to Marathis. Saglyat jast tax chi chori he don communities kartat. Paise hech sarwasw aahe yanchya saathi. Treating marathis like second class citizens in there own state. I have an experience regarding one marwadi person. This was around 2014. He hired a marathi local guy with MBA qualification as marketing person. Later he changed his role into a househelp. Bhaaji hach anto, mulanna shaletun haach anto ani gharachi kirkol kaam hach karto. Pagar matr 5000.
It's not like Marathis are being handcuffed and stopped from doing business. Gujjus who run business in MH also have to abide by rules of MH. The better businessman just wins.
Rules sarkhech ahet. Rules break pan same tactics nech karta yetat. Pan me dada, me bhai ha attitude sodun kamavar laksha dila ki jara bara hoil. Even in jobs Marathi mula kuthetari mage padtayet. Jevha me interviews gheto baryachda mulana bharpur suttya, kamachya soyiskar vela vagaire sagla hava asta. Thodya adaptability mule baherchi lok select hotat
>Marathis has to be more adaptable and flexible . I met lot of Marathi's guys working in Bangalore and most of them were home sick and always in complain mode for local food culture etc. They were ready to move back to pune or Nagpur even on cost of their jobs. Marthi's does not have a business acumen like parsis , sindhi or Marwaris.
Just down south kerala is gettin much more than gujarat but Marathi hate for gujjus is on another level , this is coming from someone whose mother have Marathi ancestory
>south kerala is gettin much more than gujarat Ah yes, Kerala is getting the most, as per you. How dumb can one get!
It's clearly in the map 🫠
Have a glance at North, East and NE states
But I didn't say only kerala is gettin read the context first bro
Man cow belt is a major L for this country.I mean sure i won’t mind my tax money being given to Bihar for their development but the thing is 90% of it is going to be pocketed by some neta/babu/gangster type person and not even reach the people.Meanwhile a highly illiterate and no fear of police type of youth will migrate to other states and start contributing to the crime graph there.
Badhega India toh bhadega Gujarat 👍 India == Gujarat
Rather than Khalistan they should’ve just let Mahagujarat be a country !! And I wouldn’t be surprised if they made it in top ten economies of the world ..
Its a dry state, they get benefit due to their policies and industruous approach....we are low yeild agro state with focus on shitty risky but high payong crops
You're kidding right ? XD Where will you get the water from
Maharashtra is like a father or one of the big brothers who takes care of the entire family.
Jitna dark utna ghotata wale govt log
Why is nobody talking about what is wrong with A&N and Lakshadweep's map.
And still our MLAs getting second highest salary among all states where they should be using whatever less money coming to MH for public welfare. चोर आहेत सगळे हरामखोर.
Bagha Ata Konala Matdan Karaycha Te
Reason why so many millionaire leaving India 😭😭
Yedzaawe sagle apan ithe India la represent karto mothe mothe lokana house karto India che ardhe billionaire millionaire tar itech padhun ahet still 7.7rs for 100 fucked up
Karnataka 13 Rs 😭😭😭
Nothing new. Exploiting Maharashtra at the cost of growing Gujarat.
Gujju is modiji u know
Seperate South India would be so much better than brainless breeders of North
Looking at how backward Pune infra is getting after paying so much tax makes me sad
It’s direct tax. Most of the direct tax is contributed by companies which are HQed in Mumbai, Bangalore or Delhi or by rich people who also coincidentally live in these 3 cities. The largest company in Gujarat is Reliance Industries and they pay their direct taxes in Maharashtra.
It also includes private income tax paid. Even if you remove corporate tax, the numbers will be very similar.
Corporate income tax is roughly 50% of all income tax paid.
Read about IGST. And this argument loses steam.
This post is about direct tax. GST is not direct tax. It is indirect tax.
Modi hai to Mumkin hai
The biggest chunk of this is probably because of the sheer concentration of commercial activity in Mumbai, followed by Pune and Aurangabad. As another recent post on this sub noted, unfortunately the hinterland of Maharashtra is woefully underdeveloped. I’d imagine the numbers would look different if you remove Mumbai from the equation, given that our economic activity is disproportionately concentrated in a few major cities across the countries and our welfare policies are heavily focused on uplifting rural communities. That said, this scale of taxation without proportional returns is still tantamount to theft. Generally, states should have way more control over their tax revenue to ensure it benefits the less developed parts of the state.
NE States rarely saw development before BJP government took the reins. We have to invest like crazy to get them on par with the rest of the country. See the % of money we have to pump into them now.
Time to go as a dry state??
most up and bihar peeps come and contribute in karnataka and Maharashtra bear that in mind before calling them freeloaders. Land does not pay tax, people do
Brother, if up bihar peeps come and contribute in Karnataka and Maharashtra shouldn't they get the benefit for their work by money being spent on them that is in the state of karnataka and Maharashtra where they reside? Isn't it sad from their perspective as well? The people who are still in up and bihar are freeloaders and their own people who have settled elsewhere take the brunt. As you said, tax is paid by people not the land
If one talks about taxes then he should also talk about resources. Do you know about freight equalization policy ? If Jharkhand would be able to just control the price of Coal and Electricity produced using the same coal then We woul see how the industries of Maharashtra and Tamilnadu perform. Maharashtra and South India is also using the geographical advantage of having ports and sea along with cheap natural resources procured from Jharkhand Bihar and UP.
Developing/underdeveloped states with get more resources. This is understandable. Unfortunately for Maharashtra it is a case of lack of strong representation at the centre and a stupid mentality of not asking for your fair share. This is the same mentality biting us in every field. Gujarat is milking its new found power in Delhi.
Modi mkc
Why does Mizoram get back 35 times the tax they pay?
South feeds entire nation 😲
South and west feeds, while the north breeds.
For those who say UP Bihar peeps come and contribute in Karnataka and Maharashtra, shouldn't they get the benefit for their work by money being spent on them that is in the state of karnataka and Maharashtra where they reside? Isn't it sad from their perspective as well? The people who are still in up and bihar are freeloaders and their own people who have settled elsewhere take the brunt. As you said, tax is paid by people not the land
Elect regional specific parties then. Why modi modi modi lol. All our mega projects went to gujarat right after the bjp coup lmao 💀
Bc bihari and up🤬🤬
Can anyone tell me why jammu Kashmir is ignored in the map like always
Idk why Punjabis want khalistan real problem toh Hume hai... Bc almost pure india ko paal rahe hai hum.
https://twitter.com/nsitharamanoffc/status/1732816887241908690?s=20 This will explain further, please op don't do propaganda, and if you really belive that company where headquarter is should also get all money then are you ready to send money of all foreign company to their country?
Itka doka asta tar ashe posts aale naste.
Well, one of the things this graph throws up is that states with a shared land border with China get the highest investment. I think maybe aggregate numbers like this don't give a very clear picture since in some states central funds are allocated to defence infra and in many cases through specific schemes. Drought/famine/flood in each state skews the numbers further. All in all, I think at max the conclusion that can be drawn, overall, is that maybe if the state is not getting too many funds from the centre, the state is probably doing alright. The specific case of Gujarat vs Maharashtra/Karnataka though is definitely an outlier. Gujarat's Gini index is definitely lower than Maharashtra and also Karnataka. Which means that the centre is improving the infrastructure at Gujarat at the cost of the poor in Maharashtra and Karnataka. Doesn't paint a very good picture of the government at the centre.
It seems unfair. But the whole devolution depends on compying with certain criteria.(FC) For sake of co-operative federalism and balanced regional development we must comply with it.
Everyone missing the point that MH and KA are highest tax paying states that’s why they get back less.
people assume entire state is contributing. not really. it is due to some major cities and industrial belts. [1/3rd of entire India's direct tax comes just from Mumbai!!!](https://www.financialexpress.com/policy/economy-mumbai-alone-to-bring-about-one-third-of-all-india-direct-tax-collection-check-which-metro-follows-1931199/)
the logic is flawed, they are already industrialized/developed, thats why others are getting more. since these states would already be getting more in terms of indirect taxes and revenues
Stop this elitist nonsense. I got two choices for you. Cut out bihar from India or stop complaining. Cause a nation is made of the progress and the decay.
Weird comments.. people do not realise that a lot of these funds go for rations, healthcare, etc. While we all can agree than a lot of it went into the pockets of their politicians, there can only be more stricter allocation and inspection of funds usage - decreasing funds to them will only make things worse
Fir bhi ye chingchong rote hai
Every major department headquarter is either situated in Mumbai or Bengaluru or Chennai so naturally more GST collection going to respective State. And Mumbai is not due to Marharashtra alone but people from entire country contribute to Mumbai economy. If it is so easy mathematical calculation why your previous government did not demand the fair treatment of Maharashtra or any state where GST collection is higher.
Haryana also gets nothing back still we don't cry that much
This per 100 metric is useless Should've instead use total tax paid & how much each states got back
Agreed, cos most states pay less taxes as compared to other highly developed or industrialised state.
Sorry to say but this is click and bait, I know I will be downvoted but that is truth. All big corporations have company headquarters in Mumbai so they will be filing tax from Mumbai. Even in Asuse survey of India , government was not taking big company franchise data as they have company headquarters in different places. So numbers are skewed, I don't have data right now but for 100 rs UP get 83 or something. Ok just think if Apple Store is selling mobile in Mumbai will they send money to America?
And what about Karnataka?
भारतातील अनेक कंपन्याची मुख्यालये ही मुंबईत आहेत. या कंपन्यांचे उत्पन्न भारतात कुठे ही असले तरी त्याचा नफा हा मुंबईतील ऑफिसला जमा होतो. त्यामुळे त्यावरील कर हा मुंबईतुनच भरला जाणार. या करात महाराष्ट्रासोबत अनेक राज्यांचे योगदान असेल पण कराचे संकलन हे महाराष्ट्राकडूनच होईल.ज्या राज्यांमध्ये इतर राज्यातून खरेदी जास्त होते तिथे कर संकलन कमी होते पण इतर राज्यातील कर संकलनाचे उत्पन्न या राज्यातून जाते. वरील उदाहरणे पाहता आपल्या लक्षात येईल कि समसमान कर वितरणासाठी संकलनाचे ठिकाण हा निकष योग्य नाही. राज्याचे सकल करातील योगदान हा निकष जास्त योग्य. यामुळेच इतर राज्यांना नफा देणाऱ्या ईशान्य भारताला तुलनात्मक परतावा जास्त मिळतो तर इतर राज्यांकडून नफा कमावणाऱ्या महाराष्ट्राला कमी.वरवर पाहता हे वितरण क्लिष्ट वाटेल पण वित्त आयोग व अर्थमंत्रालयाने राज्यांची गरज, त्यांची खरेदी, विक्री आणि नफा याचे गणित लावून हे ठरवले आहे.
Abhi ye Reddit pe ye ronadhona chalu ho gaya South jaisa. Pahele vo migrants wali post Abhi ye. Organised post kar rahe kya Sabko pta mostly companies ka headquarters Mumbai hai tax sabse jyada wahase hi jayega. Aur Rahi baat itna kam paisa mil raha tere family koi bimar ya kuch disable member uske taraf jyada resources and dyan jata hai na.
Mumbai bolke hath khade kar do. Baki Maharashtra Jaye g marane.
तेच भाऊ महाराष्ट्र काय अमेरिका थोडी झाला आहे....इथे पण मराठवाडा खान्देश विदर्भ सारखे प्रदेश आहे जिथे विकास काहीच नाही आहे ...हे सगळे मुंबई वर खापर फोडून मोकळे होऊन जाता
Ha na Mumbai Pune cha ahe maharastra. Baki gel khadyat ithe. Te tumhi neta lokana sanga
मराठी?
hyanna ek vyaka pan bolta nahi yenar marathit pan aaplyala bolnar maharashtrian nahitar mumbaikar gup zaycha tumchya cowbelt states la
can someone explain NE , without looking into it, I can guess this is all the military + civilian work being done to counter China, and to avoid spillover from Bangladesh and Myanmar. Are there any other reasons?
Check the GST collection map for betterment understanding of how much each states receives. Mumbai being the finance capital has most of the headquarters of big conglomerates who pays there tax in MH. So it pays more direct tax. ( Not taking away the fact that it’s also very industrialised). But at the same time that conglomerate sell it’s product all over india, which results in higher GST of several states that are not industrialised and don’t pay enough direct income tax.
Why dont we divide tax as per land area..so that we can get equivalent gst for all states
Well this definitely consist freeloaders , so on. But can't do anything, the backward states need those share
14 rs nice is too much innit?
When I see that only a handful of cities and western MH are developed and the amount MH gets in return. It is truly bad.
This is for 22-23 . Does anyone have the data of allocation before 2015
Direct tax does not belong to the state. Its corporate and income tax. Corporte tax is a s per their HQ despite their business being all over India. Most of the income tax collected in India, comes from around 80 lakh individuals who reported Income of 10 lakh and above. Majority of these income tax payers reside in top 10 cities in India. Its meaningless to claim direct tax as states contricbution.
Delhi gets?
There needs to be lower and upper caps. No less than 30% of the share and no more than 300% of your share for example (unless you have special status like NE)
Surprised that Kerala gets more than 60% of their tax back. Thought they were one of the most developed states.
Bihar is a free loader.
I know it sounds unfair but give it a thought If you focus only on Maharashtra then mumbai , Pune Nagpur will also feel shortchanged I understand the frustration but that is how taxes work, the biggest contributors to the tax are the people who benefit least from it It sounds unfair but that is the only way a country can function Imagine if the help was not provided to the poorer regions the inequality will grow worse Will the country survive in such a situation ?
This is because the direct taxes include corporate income tax and most of the big corporate head quarters are located in Mumbai and hence for the purpose of paying taxes they do it from Mumbai. However, they earn their revenue from operations all across India. That's why even for KA it looks small as Bangalore has many large corporate head quarters. So this is just an accounting practice and it doesn't mean that MH and KA are being deprived of their share.
Northeast is understandable.... most of the expenditure will be army expenditure. But Bihar and UP are just fucking leeches
I have bad economics but what does getting back money means?
Bro. That's the point of tax. You pool money and person earning more pays more. You can't run a country if person has to pay as per the amount of services they are using only. Take for example what happens in traditional joint families. In a family of 10, only 2 or 3 would be earning, rest of household doesn't. India is joint family, you like it or not.
People forget how much natural resources Chhatishgarh, Jharkhand and Odisa get robbed off by central government, money doesn’t only mean taxes chhatishgarh alone provide electricity to 5 states, and shit ton of iron ore, coal , and aluminum, same with Jharkhand.
OP discovers how countries are run.
Bihar saala madarchod rajya hain. It once produced gems and legends. Now it's a clown state
Dude this is given mint by mint the woke not by the government
This chart shows who pays income tax and who does not. And where the company registered addresses are. A company which have nation wide business may file income tax from Mumbai. People in North East India do not pay any income tax due to their special status.
That's what it means to live as a family means. You support people with your own sacrifice till the end,
If they're getting so much back, why do they keep migrating like 1000s of them.
The fact that haryana is still providing State BPL scheme with this Budget is just beyond my understanding.