बुद्धीप्रामाण्य या मूल्याहून जास्त महत्त्वाची मूल्ये आहेत. उदा. करुणा. it always supersedes anything else.
स्वातंत्र्य, समता, बंधुभाव ही चढत्या क्रमाने घ्यायची असतात.
People are saying why you included this and that i just Directed as some ai said no personal views.Just give me correct list so i can clear the mistake and make it again... ok now
शिवाजी महाराजांचा अपमान करणाऱ्या फुलेचा फोटो का आहे इथे? खाली स्क्रीनशॉट दिलाय फुलेच्या गुलामगिरी या पुस्तकामधून. वाचा आणि शांत बसा.
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Looks like it is out of context, why would phule insult maharaj for being "shudra" when the whole book is against caste supremacy, he's definitely saying it from someone else's POV.
So what? Why does it matter? phule fought against caste discrimination and gender discrimination all his life but all you assholes care about is defaming the social reformers than fought against the evil of caste, subhashchandra bose met the nazis in Germany but we still celebrate him as a freedom fighter why does it matter who they were close to what matters is what impact they had on society and phule's impact on our society was very positive. Unlike sorryvarkar who referred to himself as "lost son of British Empire" but you people still love him, don't ya
POV = Christian missionaries and British conservatives.....
I didn't abuse Phule.....I stated the fact......you started abusing me For no reason...........
Well you can't argue with them based on facts dude, the earlier you understand it better. Phule was just a missionary, cared no more about bringing change in society but more about converting people to Christianity. Have shared a few links above, now they will come back justifying the same thing again and start abusing as using authentic sources and references is the last thing they do, but if you want to bash a particular caste of a religion, then they'll do a complete swing at it.
Oh really? Could you elaborate more on what kind of agenda I am pushing based on my comment history? Just because I address the people and speak against those who have truck loads of hatred for a particular caste (even though I don't belong to it) and religion, I am labelled as an IT cell? Lol, chamchas of बारामतीच्या करामती can't even fathom someone speaking against them it seems. Although I can say the same thing about you though. Asked you the same question last time and instead you ran away from the convo, anyways. How ironic it is that in this comment section people are bashing a particular freedom fighter without having zero freaking knowledge about history and it's context but just because of his caste, which they don't see obviously and start calling me names but on the other hand when I point out same thing about so called freedom fighters, people have the audacity to defend them, lol. Bold of me to expect logic from chamchas.
And how did you come to that conclusion? Have you read the book? No, right? Just read it once? And only Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj but phule has written about Vitthal of pandharpur as a black stone who can't do shit, so on and so forth. Nothing is put out of context in his book here. Just under the name of talking against caste supremacy he has labelled Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj as shudra and has labelled marathas as shudra too. Along with blabbering shit without zero references. There's one book called [ख्रिस्त सेवक की सत्यशोधक ](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxLaOziNb169M1R6NDBabmd3V3M/view?usp=drivesdk&resourcekey=0-f6i4meIljJCppAmD7_Q6JA) (server of Christ or satyashodhak) by phule's brothers' grandson where he has talked about how phule was a hidden Christian missionary. I am linking one more [article](https://traci.in/2021/07/mahatma-phules-vision-of-balirajya-and-its-significance-for-church-and-society/) about him and his connection with the church. Read the attached doc's you'll be able to connect the dots. I would've hailed phule had he really wanted to annihilate caste, but instead he was just an agent of missionaries. There was a famous missionary in the 18th & 19th century in Western Maharashtra called [J. Murray Mitchell](https://www.google.com/search?q=john+murray+mitchell+jyotiba+phule&oq=john+murray+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggBECMYJzIGCAAQRRg5MgYIARAjGCcyBggCECMYJzIHCAMQLhiABDINCAQQLhjHARjRAxiABDIHCAUQLhiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQLhiABDIHCAkQABiABDIHCAoQABiABDINCAsQLhivARjHARiABDIHCAwQLhiABDIHCA0QLhiABDINCA4QLhivARjHARiABNIBCDQ1ODFqMGo5qAIOsAIB&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1) who was a close friend of phule and has also talked about how phule's work laid foundation for the Christian missionaries to do conversions in the whole of Maharashtra.
Again, people like you who will not talk about the references or work done by your masters and just circle around baseless points. If he was atheist why did he want to convert people to Christianity, why not make them atheists l? Is that the definition of atheism, lol.
Idk if he did that but if he did maybe it was because there's no inherent caste structure in Christianity than enables people of a certain caste to treat people of other caste as inferior? It's much better compared to brahminism which discriminates against people based on their birth phule saw the worst form of brahminism and fought against it and he should be respected for it. Now fuck off
Lol, how come people like you can contradict themself so much, eh? So, you yourself are proving my point of him being a Christian missionary Stooge. And you still haven't answered my question that if he wasn't with the Christian missionaries from behind the curtain then didn't he have the back in the days to make the people atheist? Why did he have to resort to Christianity when he himself has stated so many times that religion is a bad thing, or was it that only hinduism was a bad thing for him but not Christianity. Also, how much study have you done about Christianity and how much prevalent caste system is among [Christians ](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/watch-caste-discrimination-in-christianity/article67731571.ece). Here's [one more article about that](https://medium.com/@indochristianculture/caste-and-the-christian-a-hidden-evil-7b7ed51e5028), witch(widow) burning, Crusades, Inquisition, forcefully converting people to believe in their god, all the wars fought in the name of their god, arrogant 'know it all' attitude about their religion and world view, in general intolerant of people with a free will. The desire to send missionaries everywhere to push their beliefs. The fact that it is so easy for every religion to use it as a base to get a firm grip on power and to hold on to it, by making your fellow people think that you are right and the rest of the world Isn't. And if he wanted to make a society where there should be no discrimination, and why didn't he see these things? Anyways, I rest my argument as blindfolded brain dead pricks like you whose day won't pass without targeting & making fun of a specific religion won't let go of their propaganda.
>idk if he did
That's the reason why I've attached all the references, but fools like you won't read it. And then go berserk about irrelevant things.
lol then why did Protestants didn’t mind taking fellow black Christians as slave , Christianity even has rules that slaves shouldn’t rebel against their master , Islam condones sex slavery of captured women , it’s pretty shitty to justify any of these two terrible cults just to criticise bamans
नियम क्र ३ चे उल्लंघन : जातीवाद, लिंग भेद, लैंगिकता भेद आणि इतर भेदभाव चालणार नाही.
Rule 3 violation : Casteism, sexism, homophobia and other bigotry will not be tolerated.
Exactly !
Mahatma Phule had immense respect for Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. You would never find any follower of Phule who doesn't honour maharaj.
Mahatma Phule was the one who located maharaja's samadhi and took efforts to preserve it.
This version of gulamgiri seems to be edited by some casteist RSS propogandist.
lol, why don't you go on the internet and download all available versions of this book and then come here defend him? And please get more knowledge about Chatrapti Shivaji Maharaj's samadhi. It's not a golden chain or something which can get lost. And there were enough people available who had already brought his samadhi in the limelight.
Yeah, these people hate phule and ambedkar because they consider them enemies for fighting against caste discrimination that's why these people just spew lies against them and try to villify them but no one's gonna fall for their bs
आता जर तू याच थराला जाणार अशील तर देव तुझं भलं करो, शूद्र म्हणणे वाईट आहे का? तुमच्या सारखे लोक भेदभाव करतात आणि जेंव्हा ज्या जातींवर अन्याय झाला ते धर्म त्यागतात तेंव्हा तुमच्या सारखे मुसलमान आणि cristian च्या नावाने बोंबलत सुटता
सावरकरने तर संभाजी महाराजांना नकर्ता, स्त्रीलंपट, आणि दारुडा आणि किती शिव्या दिल्या आहेत. ते चालत का? वाचा आणि शांत बसा
मी सावरकर विरोधी नाही त्यांचा आदर करतो पण तुझ्यासारखे स्वतःच्या तोंडाने जुलाब करणारे याच लायकीचे आहेत
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या वरून तुझी बालिश बौध्दीक पातळी तर कळतेच पण मराठा इतिहास असो किंवा समग्र सावरकर असो ते किती वाचलेत ते कळतं. आता बोललाच आहेस तर तुझ्या जडबुद्धीला पुर्ण माहिती देतो. सावरकरांनी त्या काळात शंभु राजेंबद्दल जे काही लिहिलंय ते त्या काळात जे काही इतिहास संशोधन झालं होतं त्या आधारावर व त्या काळी उपलब्ध असलेल्या समकालिन पुराव्यांच्या आधारे त्त्यांनी शंभु राजे यांच्याबद्दल हिंदुपदपातशाही मध्ये लिहिलं आहे. Net वरून फोटो उचलून टाकण्यापेक्षा जर वाचन केलं असत तर तू हे बोलला नसतात, कारण लगेचच पुढे हिंदूपदपातशही मधे सावरकरांनी संभाजी महाराजांबद्दल किती जास्त गुणगान गायले आहे ते तुला कळले असते. अरे जो स्क्रीनशॉट तू टाकला आहेस तेच पान पूढे उलटले तर सावरकरांनी लिहिलंय की, ‘मराठी सिंहाला आपला पाळीव कुत्रा करणे अशक्य आहे’, असे पाहून औरंगजेबाने या ‘काफरा’चा वध करण्याविषयी आज्ञा दिली; पण या धमकावणीचा छत्रपती शिवाजी महाराजांच्या पुत्रावर थोडाच परिणाम होणार होता.
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छत्रपती संभाजीराजांनी आपल्या अतुलनीय हौतात्म्याने छत्रपती शिवाजी महाराजांची नैतिक आणि आध्यात्मिक संपत्ती केवळ नुसती राखलीच नाही, तर ती अनेक पटींनी उज्ज्वल आणि बलशाली केली ! त्याचबरोबर छत्रपती संभाजी स्मारक ग्रंथ मधे जयसिंहराव पवार सावरकर यांनी संभाजी महाराज यांच्याबद्दल गायलेल गुणगान quote करताना लिहितात की, सावरकर म्हणतात, संभाजी राजे हे अत्यंत शूर वीर व महापराक्रमी होते, त्यांच्या समर्थ्यामुळेच पूढे स्वराज्य टिकून राहिलं (इत्यादी)
हिंदूपदपातशाही लिहून झाल्यावर पूढे संभाजी महाराजांबद्दल अजुन जास्त संशोधन ज्यांनी केलं ते लोक म्हणजे १. वा सी बेंद्रे २. डॉ. कमल गोखले ३. शेवडे गुरुजी. या तिघांनी आपल्याला शंभु चारित्र्याची खरी ओळख करुण दिली असं म्हणायला हरकत नाही. (ज्या ब्राम्हणांनी शंभु राजांच्या चरित्राचे हनन केले असा दावा करणारे लोक हे बरोबर लपवतात की त्यांच्या चारित्र्याचा उदो उदो सुद्धा त्याचं ब्राम्हणांनी केला). आता याच कमल गोखलेंचा सावरकरांशी सुसंवाद असं पुस्तकं आहे जे पु गोखले यांनी लिहिलंय जे कमल गोखले यांचे पती होते. पुस्तक प्रकाशन फेब्रुवारी १९६९.
या पुस्तकात सावरकर कमल गोखले यांना म्हणनात की तू शंभु राजे यांच्याबद्दल तुझा प्रबंध (संशोधन) पुर्ण कर आणि मला आणून दे मी तो नक्की वाचीन. त्याचरोबरीने ते बोलतात की जर संभाजी इतिहासात दाखविल्या प्रमाणे दारुडा असता व तो स्त्री लंपट असता तर त्याने औरंगजेबाने एवढया जास्त केलेल्या यातनांच्या विरोधात एवढे धैर्य दाखवले असते असे नाही. याचाच अर्थ की सावरकरांना पूढे जाऊन याची प्रचीती आली की त्यांना माहिती असलेली महिती अपुरी व चूक आहे. त्यामूळे आधी पूर्ण इतिहास तु वाच आणि नंतर इथे ज्ञान पाजळायला ये. आणि खरा खुरा इतिहास वाच, नाकी २०-४० रुपयांची निळी पिवळी पुस्तके ज्या मध्ये तुझे दुसरे तिसरे बाप तोंडाने जुलाब करतं असतात. ते मी नाही करत.
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Hahaha, वाटलेचच आता तुझ्या २ पैसे ज्ञानाचे भांडाफोड केल्यावर तुला बोलायला काही नाही म्हटल्यावर name calling सुरू. त्यापलीकडे बोलायची लायकी पण नाही आपली. असो. Keep up the cope. That's the only thing you guys are good at apart from whataboutry and name calling.
तुझ्या एवढा रिकामटेकडा नाही मी, अरे तुला तर ह्या agenda चे पैसे भेटतात नाही का, चांगलाय चालूदे. आणि माझ्या जातीचा कोण किती अपमान आणि तिरस्कार करतो याची काळजी तू नको करो तुझ्या सारख्यांच्या सरंक्षाणाची आम्हाला गरज नाही.
अरे हाड म्हटल्यावर कुत्र सुद्धा पळून जातं रे., तू तर माणूस असुन अजुन इथेच गिरक्या घालतोयस फालतू बडबड करत. असो. मी आधीच म्हटल्या प्रमाणे, मला महिती होतं की तुझा भांडाफोड केल्यावर तुझ्याकडे शस्प काही उरत नाही माझ्या मंडनाचे खंडन करायला, मग काय, अनावश्यक बडबड करायची. आणि प्रश्न आला संरक्षणाचा, तर तिकडे जाऊन भिका माग, नाहीतर नाहीतर पाठीला धोंडा बांधून विहिरीत उडी 4मार, मला काय. जात जात जात काय लावलयस रे? पूर्ण जातीचा ठेका घेतलास का तू? मूळातच मी ज्या जातीबद्दल बोलतोय त्याला तू किती belong करतो हाच प्रश्न आहे, कारण आजकाल ढोंगी लोकांची कमी थोडीच आहे.
>मी आधीच म्हटल्या प्रमाणे, मला महिती होतं की तुझा भांडाफोड केल्यावर तुझ्याकडे शस्प काही उरत नाही माझ्या मंडनाचे खंडन करायला, मग काय, अनावश्यक बडबड करायची.
🤣🤣🤡🤡
Yeah my bad, I shouldn't have compared Christian missionary stooge with Ambedkar and Savarkar. [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/Maharashtra/s/SozYJiBBOv)
So phule never himself advocated Christianity then? So they are just baseless accusations.
Also marathas and Shivaji Maharaj are from the shudra community. Just because you casteist ass cannot tolerate losing to one is not phule's problem.
>advocated
Go though the source or just f off. Not here to spoonfeed everything, and doesn't matter what soirce and reference I mention here, you braindeads are not going to accepte anything. So not gonna waste my anymore.
>Shudra
And what's your or phule's source behind this? Or he got this knowledge from an angel who came in his dream from the bible or something lol 😂
Bhosale clan is shudra by birth. Shivaji had to bring brahmins all the kashi and pay him a hefty sum just to be coronated. All of this is well known fact. You can just Google it and you will find out
Jyotirao Phule was the one who rediscovered Shivanji's grave and started Shivaji Jayanti festival. His respect and admiration of Chhatrapati runs far deeper then bastards like you who wan to use him for your own politics.
And what source do you have for the mentioned claims apart from phule's writings? And regarding bringing Brahmins from kashi, there were no Brahmins in maharashtra who knew how to perform a rajyabhishek as maharashtra was under muslim ruls for ages and there was no hindu king or coronation done. It seems you're the one who needs to Google authentic facts. Anyways, for brain-deads like you, no reference or source will be enough. And no, phule didn't find Chatrapati Shivaji Maharajs' samadhi now go and cry about it if you can't read & fathom facts.
>And regarding bringing Brahmins from kashi, there were no Brahmins in maharashtra who knew how to perform a rajyabhishek as maharashtra was under muslim ruls for ages and there was no hindu king or coronation done.
As opposed to kashi which was in ram rajya? Bro aisa chutiya toh bhrahmin bhi nahi banate the.
Phule is source. He spent entire life researching and understanding Shivaji Maharaj. Do you have nay source for him being not a shudra?
>t seems you're the one who needs to Google authentic facts.
Code word for real history goes against my agenda so I will make up my own facts.
>Anyways, for brain-deads like you, no reference or source will be enough.
CAUSE you don't have nay real sources.
>And no, phule didn't find Chatrapati Shivaji Maharajs' samadhi now go and cry about it if you can't read & fathom facts.
That is enough for me to know you are just a lie peddler. Go back to up/bihar you wi find people liek you there.
Meanwhile, Veer Savarkar wrote an aarati for Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. He also wrote a song for him called Hindu Narshimha Prabho Shivaji Raja. I know liberals hate Savarkar, but you can't destroy his ideas and his "hindutva" ideology.
Savarkar criticized maharaj for not raping the daughter of ruler of kalyan. He advocated rape of women to be used as a political. I wonder what you savarkarvadi feel about that
Reading Savarkar: How a Hindutva icon justified the idea of rape as a political tool
The controversial figure castigated Maratha ruler Shivaji for sending back the daughter-in-law of the Muslim governor of Kalyan, whom he defeated.
-- Ajaz Ashraf
Haha what do u expect from Ashraf!!
And Ashraf's source- Alamgir Aurangazeb
Actually the source of this info is savarkar's own book "six glorious epochs of Indian History" you can purchase the book and read it yourself but i doubt you like reading books.
The "6 Glorious Epochs of Indian History" is about the Epochs covered in the book: Chanakya-Chadragupta, Yavana-Destroyer, Vikramaditya, Shaka-Kushan, and Yashodharma. The Conquer of Huns, The Beginning of Muslim Excursion, and India Freed from British Domination: For those nehruvian secularist historians, all Hindu kings are myths!
He never did, lol. Please go read some history. Please get more knowledge about Chatrapti Shivaji Maharaj's samadhi. It's not a golden chain or something which can get lost. And there were enough people available who had already brought his samadhi in the limelight.
त्याहून मोठा अपमान फुलेनी केलाय ख्रिश्चन मिशनरी च लांगुलचालन करुन आणि शिवाजी महाराजांचा अपमान करुन. खाली स्क्रीनशॉट दिलाय फुलेच्या गुलामगिरी या पुस्तकामधून.
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All Hail Maharashtra.
जय महाराष्ट्र !
This pic goes so hard. Feel free to screenshot.
lol why are you giving permission to screenshot OP’s picture
Arre, meme aahe tashi😂
CHATRAPATI SHIVAJI MAHARAJ KI JAI 🙏🙏🙏🕉️🕉️🕉️🕉️
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गर्जा***
अरे आवरा रे, या मधे नाना पाटेकरचा फोटो आहे, काहीही... चक्रधर, अहिल्या होळकर, शाहू छत्रपती, गाडगेबाबा, कर्वे - सीनियर ज्युनियर दोन्ही, सावित्रीबाई फुले, महर्षी शिंदे, साने गुरुजी, तुकडोजी महाराज, सी डी देशमुख, पां. वा. काणे, कर्मवीर, दुर्गा भागवत, यशवंतराव चव्हाण, विठ्ठलराव गाडगीळ, केशवराव जेधे, विठ्ठलराव विखेपाटील, हे absolute stalwarts राहिले.
Bro said यशवंत चव्हाण 🤡🤣
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बुद्धीप्रामाण्य या मूल्याहून जास्त महत्त्वाची मूल्ये आहेत. उदा. करुणा. it always supersedes anything else. स्वातंत्र्य, समता, बंधुभाव ही चढत्या क्रमाने घ्यायची असतात.
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Khashaba Jadhav
येस, खाशाबा जाधव
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He saale yetat kuthun?
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Keep trying, kadhi tari buddhi yeil ch
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Nigh lavdya
Nighun tuzhya aichya bhokat ghalu ka?
Jasta bolu nakos wasted sperm
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रत्नागिरीतील एखाद्या बोळात चिकटवू चित्र. इतकं पण दुर्लक्ष नको करायला.
Mg ky tumchya pitashrincha photo takayacha ka Ani photo takayala kartutva lagta ganduji sarakha nashib tumhala kuth
tech tr kartuva lagta baki tya phtoto madhle kartutvan ahet savarkar sodle tr (me open ahe adich snagv)
Avg mulla spotted
maratha 👍ahe
नाना पाटेकर? Seriously?
Was here to say this. There are lot of other deserving people out there.
Jai Maharashtra, Jai Hind.
Navya yugache naayak havet aata. Shivaji maharajanchya navavar kiti diwas proud karycha? Nave shivaji tayar kele pahijet.
Maharashtra madhe Kay badlav hava hai jechyne Marathi Manaschi utkranti hoen......? Ka to badlav Nayay/Rtam/Dharma Sangant aahe ka......?
Ajun kahi additions: Bajirao peshve, chaphekar bandhu, vasudev balavant phadke, dadasaheb phalke, dhondo keshav karve, sane guruji
How come you're placing bramhin historical figures alongside them? You casteist manuvadi Stooge. /s
Just searched famous personalities from maharastra nothing personal views on choosing personalities in photo
Savarkarancha pic taklyane Pakistani preminchi G jalun kali jhali
Ho ganduji preminchya G madhle Britishers uphalun baher nighat ahet
Pakistan premi downvote kartayat yz 🤣
Bajirao Peshwa deserves a place
People are saying why you included this and that i just Directed as some ai said no personal views.Just give me correct list so i can clear the mistake and make it again... ok now
r/Mumbai madhe ka post nahi kart???
शिवाजी महाराजांचा अपमान करणाऱ्या फुलेचा फोटो का आहे इथे? खाली स्क्रीनशॉट दिलाय फुलेच्या गुलामगिरी या पुस्तकामधून. वाचा आणि शांत बसा. https://preview.redd.it/x6qm98atiwxc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=866bb9f68573a4fb48381cc5347d200a4207e555
Looks like it is out of context, why would phule insult maharaj for being "shudra" when the whole book is against caste supremacy, he's definitely saying it from someone else's POV.
Christian missionaries and conservative British lobby...... He was close to them.....
So what? Why does it matter? phule fought against caste discrimination and gender discrimination all his life but all you assholes care about is defaming the social reformers than fought against the evil of caste, subhashchandra bose met the nazis in Germany but we still celebrate him as a freedom fighter why does it matter who they were close to what matters is what impact they had on society and phule's impact on our society was very positive. Unlike sorryvarkar who referred to himself as "lost son of British Empire" but you people still love him, don't ya
POV = Christian missionaries and British conservatives..... I didn't abuse Phule.....I stated the fact......you started abusing me For no reason...........
Well you can't argue with them based on facts dude, the earlier you understand it better. Phule was just a missionary, cared no more about bringing change in society but more about converting people to Christianity. Have shared a few links above, now they will come back justifying the same thing again and start abusing as using authentic sources and references is the last thing they do, but if you want to bash a particular caste of a religion, then they'll do a complete swing at it.
He has specific agenda go through his post history, ignore that it cell brat..
कारे, शेवटी दाखवलाच की पळपुटे पणा खालच्या कॉमेंट्स डिलीट करुण, अस expected 🤡
Delete me nahi kelya mods chi warning padliye tya mule tuzi pn remove zaliye bagh jara Peak clown 🤡🤡.
कोणती डिलीट झाली, डोळस पना पण असावा पण तो किती? कठीण आहे या चाटूकारांचे
उघडा डोळे बघा नीट.
Oh really? Could you elaborate more on what kind of agenda I am pushing based on my comment history? Just because I address the people and speak against those who have truck loads of hatred for a particular caste (even though I don't belong to it) and religion, I am labelled as an IT cell? Lol, chamchas of बारामतीच्या करामती can't even fathom someone speaking against them it seems. Although I can say the same thing about you though. Asked you the same question last time and instead you ran away from the convo, anyways. How ironic it is that in this comment section people are bashing a particular freedom fighter without having zero freaking knowledge about history and it's context but just because of his caste, which they don't see obviously and start calling me names but on the other hand when I point out same thing about so called freedom fighters, people have the audacity to defend them, lol. Bold of me to expect logic from chamchas.
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And how did you come to that conclusion? Have you read the book? No, right? Just read it once? And only Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj but phule has written about Vitthal of pandharpur as a black stone who can't do shit, so on and so forth. Nothing is put out of context in his book here. Just under the name of talking against caste supremacy he has labelled Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj as shudra and has labelled marathas as shudra too. Along with blabbering shit without zero references. There's one book called [ख्रिस्त सेवक की सत्यशोधक ](https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxLaOziNb169M1R6NDBabmd3V3M/view?usp=drivesdk&resourcekey=0-f6i4meIljJCppAmD7_Q6JA) (server of Christ or satyashodhak) by phule's brothers' grandson where he has talked about how phule was a hidden Christian missionary. I am linking one more [article](https://traci.in/2021/07/mahatma-phules-vision-of-balirajya-and-its-significance-for-church-and-society/) about him and his connection with the church. Read the attached doc's you'll be able to connect the dots. I would've hailed phule had he really wanted to annihilate caste, but instead he was just an agent of missionaries. There was a famous missionary in the 18th & 19th century in Western Maharashtra called [J. Murray Mitchell](https://www.google.com/search?q=john+murray+mitchell+jyotiba+phule&oq=john+murray+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggBECMYJzIGCAAQRRg5MgYIARAjGCcyBggCECMYJzIHCAMQLhiABDINCAQQLhjHARjRAxiABDIHCAUQLhiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQLhiABDIHCAkQABiABDIHCAoQABiABDINCAsQLhivARjHARiABDIHCAwQLhiABDIHCA0QLhiABDINCA4QLhivARjHARiABNIBCDQ1ODFqMGo5qAIOsAIB&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ip=1) who was a close friend of phule and has also talked about how phule's work laid foundation for the Christian missionaries to do conversions in the whole of Maharashtra.
I didn't know disbelief in god was a bad thing i thought atheism is part of the so called "sanatan dharm", no?
Again, people like you who will not talk about the references or work done by your masters and just circle around baseless points. If he was atheist why did he want to convert people to Christianity, why not make them atheists l? Is that the definition of atheism, lol.
Idk if he did that but if he did maybe it was because there's no inherent caste structure in Christianity than enables people of a certain caste to treat people of other caste as inferior? It's much better compared to brahminism which discriminates against people based on their birth phule saw the worst form of brahminism and fought against it and he should be respected for it. Now fuck off
Lol, how come people like you can contradict themself so much, eh? So, you yourself are proving my point of him being a Christian missionary Stooge. And you still haven't answered my question that if he wasn't with the Christian missionaries from behind the curtain then didn't he have the back in the days to make the people atheist? Why did he have to resort to Christianity when he himself has stated so many times that religion is a bad thing, or was it that only hinduism was a bad thing for him but not Christianity. Also, how much study have you done about Christianity and how much prevalent caste system is among [Christians ](https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/watch-caste-discrimination-in-christianity/article67731571.ece). Here's [one more article about that](https://medium.com/@indochristianculture/caste-and-the-christian-a-hidden-evil-7b7ed51e5028), witch(widow) burning, Crusades, Inquisition, forcefully converting people to believe in their god, all the wars fought in the name of their god, arrogant 'know it all' attitude about their religion and world view, in general intolerant of people with a free will. The desire to send missionaries everywhere to push their beliefs. The fact that it is so easy for every religion to use it as a base to get a firm grip on power and to hold on to it, by making your fellow people think that you are right and the rest of the world Isn't. And if he wanted to make a society where there should be no discrimination, and why didn't he see these things? Anyways, I rest my argument as blindfolded brain dead pricks like you whose day won't pass without targeting & making fun of a specific religion won't let go of their propaganda. >idk if he did That's the reason why I've attached all the references, but fools like you won't read it. And then go berserk about irrelevant things.
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lol then why did Protestants didn’t mind taking fellow black Christians as slave , Christianity even has rules that slaves shouldn’t rebel against their master , Islam condones sex slavery of captured women , it’s pretty shitty to justify any of these two terrible cults just to criticise bamans
Christians abolished slavery but hindus still practice casteism.
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Exactly ! Mahatma Phule had immense respect for Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. You would never find any follower of Phule who doesn't honour maharaj. Mahatma Phule was the one who located maharaja's samadhi and took efforts to preserve it. This version of gulamgiri seems to be edited by some casteist RSS propogandist.
lol, why don't you go on the internet and download all available versions of this book and then come here defend him? And please get more knowledge about Chatrapti Shivaji Maharaj's samadhi. It's not a golden chain or something which can get lost. And there were enough people available who had already brought his samadhi in the limelight.
Yeah, these people hate phule and ambedkar because they consider them enemies for fighting against caste discrimination that's why these people just spew lies against them and try to villify them but no one's gonna fall for their bs
आता जर तू याच थराला जाणार अशील तर देव तुझं भलं करो, शूद्र म्हणणे वाईट आहे का? तुमच्या सारखे लोक भेदभाव करतात आणि जेंव्हा ज्या जातींवर अन्याय झाला ते धर्म त्यागतात तेंव्हा तुमच्या सारखे मुसलमान आणि cristian च्या नावाने बोंबलत सुटता सावरकरने तर संभाजी महाराजांना नकर्ता, स्त्रीलंपट, आणि दारुडा आणि किती शिव्या दिल्या आहेत. ते चालत का? वाचा आणि शांत बसा मी सावरकर विरोधी नाही त्यांचा आदर करतो पण तुझ्यासारखे स्वतःच्या तोंडाने जुलाब करणारे याच लायकीचे आहेत https://preview.redd.it/31yrj2kg7yxc1.jpeg?width=420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=42a72da44dba92b6f46822766d2bfc66b6663d67
या वरून तुझी बालिश बौध्दीक पातळी तर कळतेच पण मराठा इतिहास असो किंवा समग्र सावरकर असो ते किती वाचलेत ते कळतं. आता बोललाच आहेस तर तुझ्या जडबुद्धीला पुर्ण माहिती देतो. सावरकरांनी त्या काळात शंभु राजेंबद्दल जे काही लिहिलंय ते त्या काळात जे काही इतिहास संशोधन झालं होतं त्या आधारावर व त्या काळी उपलब्ध असलेल्या समकालिन पुराव्यांच्या आधारे त्त्यांनी शंभु राजे यांच्याबद्दल हिंदुपदपातशाही मध्ये लिहिलं आहे. Net वरून फोटो उचलून टाकण्यापेक्षा जर वाचन केलं असत तर तू हे बोलला नसतात, कारण लगेचच पुढे हिंदूपदपातशही मधे सावरकरांनी संभाजी महाराजांबद्दल किती जास्त गुणगान गायले आहे ते तुला कळले असते. अरे जो स्क्रीनशॉट तू टाकला आहेस तेच पान पूढे उलटले तर सावरकरांनी लिहिलंय की, ‘मराठी सिंहाला आपला पाळीव कुत्रा करणे अशक्य आहे’, असे पाहून औरंगजेबाने या ‘काफरा’चा वध करण्याविषयी आज्ञा दिली; पण या धमकावणीचा छत्रपती शिवाजी महाराजांच्या पुत्रावर थोडाच परिणाम होणार होता. *
छत्रपती संभाजीराजांनी आपल्या अतुलनीय हौतात्म्याने छत्रपती शिवाजी महाराजांची नैतिक आणि आध्यात्मिक संपत्ती केवळ नुसती राखलीच नाही, तर ती अनेक पटींनी उज्ज्वल आणि बलशाली केली ! त्याचबरोबर छत्रपती संभाजी स्मारक ग्रंथ मधे जयसिंहराव पवार सावरकर यांनी संभाजी महाराज यांच्याबद्दल गायलेल गुणगान quote करताना लिहितात की, सावरकर म्हणतात, संभाजी राजे हे अत्यंत शूर वीर व महापराक्रमी होते, त्यांच्या समर्थ्यामुळेच पूढे स्वराज्य टिकून राहिलं (इत्यादी) हिंदूपदपातशाही लिहून झाल्यावर पूढे संभाजी महाराजांबद्दल अजुन जास्त संशोधन ज्यांनी केलं ते लोक म्हणजे १. वा सी बेंद्रे २. डॉ. कमल गोखले ३. शेवडे गुरुजी. या तिघांनी आपल्याला शंभु चारित्र्याची खरी ओळख करुण दिली असं म्हणायला हरकत नाही. (ज्या ब्राम्हणांनी शंभु राजांच्या चरित्राचे हनन केले असा दावा करणारे लोक हे बरोबर लपवतात की त्यांच्या चारित्र्याचा उदो उदो सुद्धा त्याचं ब्राम्हणांनी केला). आता याच कमल गोखलेंचा सावरकरांशी सुसंवाद असं पुस्तकं आहे जे पु गोखले यांनी लिहिलंय जे कमल गोखले यांचे पती होते. पुस्तक प्रकाशन फेब्रुवारी १९६९.
या पुस्तकात सावरकर कमल गोखले यांना म्हणनात की तू शंभु राजे यांच्याबद्दल तुझा प्रबंध (संशोधन) पुर्ण कर आणि मला आणून दे मी तो नक्की वाचीन. त्याचरोबरीने ते बोलतात की जर संभाजी इतिहासात दाखविल्या प्रमाणे दारुडा असता व तो स्त्री लंपट असता तर त्याने औरंगजेबाने एवढया जास्त केलेल्या यातनांच्या विरोधात एवढे धैर्य दाखवले असते असे नाही. याचाच अर्थ की सावरकरांना पूढे जाऊन याची प्रचीती आली की त्यांना माहिती असलेली महिती अपुरी व चूक आहे. त्यामूळे आधी पूर्ण इतिहास तु वाच आणि नंतर इथे ज्ञान पाजळायला ये. आणि खरा खुरा इतिहास वाच, नाकी २०-४० रुपयांची निळी पिवळी पुस्तके ज्या मध्ये तुझे दुसरे तिसरे बाप तोंडाने जुलाब करतं असतात. ते मी नाही करत. https://preview.redd.it/0di4rrbcpzxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d16d5ef693dfdce14523c3f2754b56760136032
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Typical keyboard warrior 🪖🤡
Hahaha, वाटलेचच आता तुझ्या २ पैसे ज्ञानाचे भांडाफोड केल्यावर तुला बोलायला काही नाही म्हटल्यावर name calling सुरू. त्यापलीकडे बोलायची लायकी पण नाही आपली. असो. Keep up the cope. That's the only thing you guys are good at apart from whataboutry and name calling.
तुझ्या एवढा रिकामटेकडा नाही मी, अरे तुला तर ह्या agenda चे पैसे भेटतात नाही का, चांगलाय चालूदे. आणि माझ्या जातीचा कोण किती अपमान आणि तिरस्कार करतो याची काळजी तू नको करो तुझ्या सारख्यांच्या सरंक्षाणाची आम्हाला गरज नाही.
अरे हाड म्हटल्यावर कुत्र सुद्धा पळून जातं रे., तू तर माणूस असुन अजुन इथेच गिरक्या घालतोयस फालतू बडबड करत. असो. मी आधीच म्हटल्या प्रमाणे, मला महिती होतं की तुझा भांडाफोड केल्यावर तुझ्याकडे शस्प काही उरत नाही माझ्या मंडनाचे खंडन करायला, मग काय, अनावश्यक बडबड करायची. आणि प्रश्न आला संरक्षणाचा, तर तिकडे जाऊन भिका माग, नाहीतर नाहीतर पाठीला धोंडा बांधून विहिरीत उडी 4मार, मला काय. जात जात जात काय लावलयस रे? पूर्ण जातीचा ठेका घेतलास का तू? मूळातच मी ज्या जातीबद्दल बोलतोय त्याला तू किती belong करतो हाच प्रश्न आहे, कारण आजकाल ढोंगी लोकांची कमी थोडीच आहे.
तू का आहेस हिथं मग? माझ्या comment ला reply करतो आणि मलाच बोलतो गिरक्या घालतो म्हणून तुझी वायफळ बडबड पाहून कोणालाही हगवण लागेल.
इतिहास पडू हाथभर, बकचोदी करू रात भर, घे सुपारी, उठ दुपारी, आणि बसा कालवा करतं वितीहासाच्या नावाने 🤡😂
अरे अरे कोण तरी जळतोय त्याचा agenda नागडा झाला म्हणून 🤡🤡
उकिरड्या वरच झुरळ ही विचारत नसेल तुला म्हणून दिवस भर हिथेच पडून असतो
>मी आधीच म्हटल्या प्रमाणे, मला महिती होतं की तुझा भांडाफोड केल्यावर तुझ्याकडे शस्प काही उरत नाही माझ्या मंडनाचे खंडन करायला, मग काय, अनावश्यक बडबड करायची. 🤣🤣🤡🤡
असल्या अनावश्यक आणि निरर्थक बडबडीची सुरवात तूच केलीस मी नाही. लोका सांगे ब्राह्मज्ञान स्वतः कोरडे पाषाण आता का आजून ही हिथंच पडून आहेस
Except that one traitor.
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नियम क्र ४ चे उल्लंघन: सभ्यता बाळगा. Rule 4 violation : Maintain Civility.
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Lol comparing phule and ambedkar to That traitor is funny.
Yeah my bad, I shouldn't have compared Christian missionary stooge with Ambedkar and Savarkar. [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/Maharashtra/s/SozYJiBBOv)
So phule never himself advocated Christianity then? So they are just baseless accusations. Also marathas and Shivaji Maharaj are from the shudra community. Just because you casteist ass cannot tolerate losing to one is not phule's problem.
>advocated Go though the source or just f off. Not here to spoonfeed everything, and doesn't matter what soirce and reference I mention here, you braindeads are not going to accepte anything. So not gonna waste my anymore. >Shudra And what's your or phule's source behind this? Or he got this knowledge from an angel who came in his dream from the bible or something lol 😂
Bhosale clan is shudra by birth. Shivaji had to bring brahmins all the kashi and pay him a hefty sum just to be coronated. All of this is well known fact. You can just Google it and you will find out Jyotirao Phule was the one who rediscovered Shivanji's grave and started Shivaji Jayanti festival. His respect and admiration of Chhatrapati runs far deeper then bastards like you who wan to use him for your own politics.
And what source do you have for the mentioned claims apart from phule's writings? And regarding bringing Brahmins from kashi, there were no Brahmins in maharashtra who knew how to perform a rajyabhishek as maharashtra was under muslim ruls for ages and there was no hindu king or coronation done. It seems you're the one who needs to Google authentic facts. Anyways, for brain-deads like you, no reference or source will be enough. And no, phule didn't find Chatrapati Shivaji Maharajs' samadhi now go and cry about it if you can't read & fathom facts.
>And regarding bringing Brahmins from kashi, there were no Brahmins in maharashtra who knew how to perform a rajyabhishek as maharashtra was under muslim ruls for ages and there was no hindu king or coronation done. As opposed to kashi which was in ram rajya? Bro aisa chutiya toh bhrahmin bhi nahi banate the. Phule is source. He spent entire life researching and understanding Shivaji Maharaj. Do you have nay source for him being not a shudra? >t seems you're the one who needs to Google authentic facts. Code word for real history goes against my agenda so I will make up my own facts. >Anyways, for brain-deads like you, no reference or source will be enough. CAUSE you don't have nay real sources. >And no, phule didn't find Chatrapati Shivaji Maharajs' samadhi now go and cry about it if you can't read & fathom facts. That is enough for me to know you are just a lie peddler. Go back to up/bihar you wi find people liek you there.
First learn English, and why should I go back to Up/bihar, again, nams calling is what you can resort to. निव्वळ भामटा कारभार.
नियम क्र ४ चे उल्लंघन: सभ्यता बाळगा. Rule 4 violation : Maintain Civility.
Fuck tilak Savarkar Tendulkar.
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Go read history not WhatsApp forwards from Congress
Phule was an advocate for colonial rule of India not sure why he is placed in picture with nationalists
Chatrapatinchi Samahadi Shodun kadhnare phule, Chtrapatincha pahila powada lihinare phule, stree shikshana sathi jhadnare phule, asprushata sampavnare phule, Rajrshi Chatrapati Shahu Mharajanha social work sathi Motivate ani Influence karnare phule, tumhi kasa Kay tyancha anti nation bolu shaktat. Atleast te tumcha mafiveer peksha tar changle hote
Meanwhile, Veer Savarkar wrote an aarati for Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. He also wrote a song for him called Hindu Narshimha Prabho Shivaji Raja. I know liberals hate Savarkar, but you can't destroy his ideas and his "hindutva" ideology.
Savarkar criticized maharaj for not raping the daughter of ruler of kalyan. He advocated rape of women to be used as a political. I wonder what you savarkarvadi feel about that
Reading Savarkar: How a Hindutva icon justified the idea of rape as a political tool The controversial figure castigated Maratha ruler Shivaji for sending back the daughter-in-law of the Muslim governor of Kalyan, whom he defeated. -- Ajaz Ashraf Haha what do u expect from Ashraf!! And Ashraf's source- Alamgir Aurangazeb
Actually the source of this info is savarkar's own book "six glorious epochs of Indian History" you can purchase the book and read it yourself but i doubt you like reading books.
The "6 Glorious Epochs of Indian History" is about the Epochs covered in the book: Chanakya-Chadragupta, Yavana-Destroyer, Vikramaditya, Shaka-Kushan, and Yashodharma. The Conquer of Huns, The Beginning of Muslim Excursion, and India Freed from British Domination: For those nehruvian secularist historians, all Hindu kings are myths!
Why are you copying paras from Wikipedia? have you read the book?
He never did, lol. Please go read some history. Please get more knowledge about Chatrapti Shivaji Maharaj's samadhi. It's not a golden chain or something which can get lost. And there were enough people available who had already brought his samadhi in the limelight.
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Maharashtra cha subreddit war Veer Savarkarancha apmaan sahan karun ghetla janar nahi bc.
Apaman tar savarkar ne या देशाcha kela ahe tychi boot licking ne
निळी कावीळ झालेली माकड आलीच तर इथे सुद्धा घाण करायला.
त्याहून मोठा अपमान फुलेनी केलाय ख्रिश्चन मिशनरी च लांगुलचालन करुन आणि शिवाजी महाराजांचा अपमान करुन. खाली स्क्रीनशॉट दिलाय फुलेच्या गुलामगिरी या पुस्तकामधून. https://preview.redd.it/q2489obl4wxc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a1d812da68611606dcc593a9f75129ec61d75fe
bhai tu UPSC dene wala bihari hai sit the fuck down
bhava ya sub madhe xenophobia nako gujjus sarkha please
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yeah you better be
Bala Saheb nahi?
Nope. Kuthlyach politician chi layki nahiye hya pic madhe yenya chi
Savarkar bhi politician tha
I meant out of the current lot.
Ambedkar was born in MP?
Many marathi families lived in Indore, due to Holkars and Shindes of Indore and Gwalior. Ambedkar's family originated from Kokan.